skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Plenty of other status posts get flagged and taken down. Guess CF is special
> Back then, one Enterprise CRUD job looked like any other.

They still do.
I wonder if it really was though. I’d think that these centralised services go down less than the self hosted stuff previously. Is it better to have more overall uptime but downtime means everything stops, or random downtimes of individual sites that adds up to more downtime.
I'm on Linode.

Linode is down because Cloudflare is down.

Can't login to their control panel, etc.

You'd need to go fully independent and roll your own, with zero dependencies, to really make this work.
In the 2020 Apple claimed they had 49.88 percent of the UK market for mobile phones.
- Encrypted DNS seems to be having issues (very slow resolution, if any)

- Having issues connecting to GitHub (Could be they are using CF, or could be DNS issue - but I'm able to connect fine to Google services)

- Twitter loads, but all images fail to resolve

- https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/ loads very slowly, and no assets (CSS, images, etc) load

EDIT from CF ::
The issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented.
Posted Jun 21, 2022 - 06:57 UTC
I don't buy that narrative. As if things were somehow fine until the stupid public ruined it all.

Facebook is and always has been deep in adtech, which is fundamentally slimy. It's no surprise that led to a history littered with data privacy blunders.

>Again you are bumping the waters.

On the contrary, my chemistry knowledge is too poor to do such a thing.
Btw, this is the github page where you can report your issues with the book

https://github.com/data-centric-computing/dcic-public
Shadowy Strava users spy on Israeli military with fake routes in bases
Had a hard time trusting Cloudflare since they blocked 8chan due to political activism.
Wow lots of websites are affected, including Medium. The perils of centralization strike again. Though ironically, I noticed that the IPFS website uses cloudflare as well. The actual IPFS network is working just fine though, and I'm not aware of IPFS ever having any global outages. Though then again, I'm not aware of any on bittorrent either
Yes, sorry my rant was more like "everything relies on a single SaaS" rather than the SaaS doing everything, just mixed up the phrasing
So here's an example of the string package:
https://pkg.go.dev/strings

In what way would the JavaDoc @param/@return/etc annotations actually help? What Godoc has is more than suitable for the vast majority of cases.
firefox DOH uses cloudflare and nextdns. nextdns is down as well
Enterprise support has been useless as is the status page. Got more info here
"In 1866, Kehoe published The Indian Club Exercise, a beautifully illustrated book which contained, in addition to an easy-to-follow system of exercise for both men and women, a series of physique studies showing the benefits of heavy club training."

If anyone is curious about the illustrations, the Internet Archive has the book:

https://archive.org/details/indianclubexerci00kehorich
Thank you! This little comment just saved me an hour of investigation. Good luck for getting the system back up asap.
> As something of a counterpoint, a literal 4-hour assignment isn't that bad--especially as an alternative to a day of interviews.

An assignment is no replacement for a face to face interview.
I remember when some key part of AWS EC2--EBS in us-east-1 maybe?--was down for a few days straight. Honestly, the main thing it taught me was "if you are honest with your customers they will mostly just come back later and buy everything they didn't buy today".
Some people I believe type on the stand. I sometimes (rarely) do that when using my Nexstand.

But most of the time I agree with you, an external keyboard is a must to make this ergonomic for me personally.
LMAO of course when every single thing I tried to use won't load or gives me a useless default 500 nginx error page, I find out why here. Figured it was CloudFlare. Single point of failure, not once.
We are not using cloud flare. But our domain is also not accessible. We are using digital ocean's DNS service for propagating our IP. Does the DigitalOcean's DNS service depend on Cloudflare service?
There is the Theory of Everything and we're nearly certain it exists, we're really really close, we can smell it. Until then, we have two not so simple almost rules, quantum chromo-du-jour and pesky relativity. That's just my opinion of course. Who knows, it could be cymatic patterns carving analog ai onto the nerve cell surface, or a schoolmaster with a wooden pointer.
this is basically the 'Sacha Baron Cohen' solution, making platforms liable for user posts inevitably requires pre-post review. Hence, however distasteful it may be, we have to lean toward free speech vs censorship in every case.
Could you share practical tips on how to implement this with reasonable effort? Email providers that let you create aliases on-the-fly? Tools and workflows for automatically creating them on your own domain? For different OS (Windows, Linux, MacOS) and hosting providers?
Back up?
Because most of them are manually updated, and not pulling directly from an uptime system (at least for incidents, etc)

(Also it doesn't help that uptime monitoring systems are usually stupid and love triggering on false positives)
I had tinkered with my network settings just before this to troubleshoot an entirely unrelated problem so for a minute there I thought I broke everything lol
GitLab.com is impacted too as they are also behind Cloudflare.
Just wanted to also reiterate how thankful I am that you took your time to let us know. It speaks volumes.
Thanks a lot.

I'm a big fan of The Mom Test. Fantastic book.

But I was more curious about how are people actually applying it's lessons in their actual business.
Why do clouds have well-defined boundaries?
Everything working here in Australia
Unprofessional? You are offering very bad advice. If your work is worth that much, don’t give it out for free to people who don’t recognize it.

PS: my rate for 4 hours work is $2500. Companies HAVE taken me up on this rate. In fact I am currently declining work because I haven’t the time. Know your worth!
Where are you posting your ad?

Lack of salary will put off a % of browsers who are unsure if they want a move… you need to either add package or try and make it clear in the text it’s good.

The interview schedule looks fine to me - but I don’t have super young children (maybe I’m more senior than I realise!)
What is your setup to where you are isolated from "other person making a mistake"? Even if you're a box in a colocated datacenter you're still able to get knocked off the net from some maintenance on the surrounding pipes. Hell, hosting your own box doesn't cause Comcast DNS issues to not knock off a bunch of people either.

I do think there is some holistic overview of hosting stuff on the internet, where you could label each extra actor that can break things, mitigation strategies, and costs of such. Someone better than me would be able to place relative risk (and I think in that model laying out various provider uptimes/issues would be great!) and offer a smart way of dealing with the buy vs. build question on this.
Yes. As an example, in Portugal it is forbidden to perform cash payments above 3.000 Eur. Also, inter-bank transfers above a certain value may require documentation demonstrating they are legitimate.
Every country you see pushing electronic payments is already censoring cash transactions, as a way of curb the parallel economy and tax evasion.
Which undersea cable was cut ;)
According to my monitoring, yes and by a large difference
import random
comments = [' ',' ',' #this is a loop',' #is this tehcnically a quine?',' #small optimization']
code = ['import random','comments = ','code = ','code[2] = code[2] + str(code)','code[1] = code[1] + str(comments)','for i in code: print(i + random.choice(comments))']
code[2] = code[2] + str(code)
code[1] = code[1] + str(comments)
for i in code: print(i + random.choice(comments))
Why do people ask questions like this? You know the answer. This company offered products or services superior to alternatives so people elected to use them.
Cloudflare has too many outages.

Their core service (DNS and web proxying) should see an outage once every 10 years or less. Much like Google Search (which is a far more complex service).

Yet it seems we get an outage more frequently than once a year. In my opinion, that makes the service too unreliable to base my business off - it's not like I can failover to another provider while they're down.
Not a useful comment 20 minutes into an outage.

The internet is an interconnected web of dependencies. Unless you are Cloudflare/Akamai/Amazon/Google there is no self-hosted anymore.

You can host in your basement if you like but you're still dependent on your ISP.
I am guessing this is why substack is down?
This is probably the best link for this status instead of the generic cloudflare.com one.
Google Analytics shows me that I still have quite a lot of traffic, so it is not 100% down.
Edit: If I set my VPN to Poland it works.
"Fight for motives beyond profit."

Sigh. Profit is good. Profit is necessary. Profit is not a great motivator IMO. It motivates, but alone it motivates the wrong things the wrong way.

Money is my only motive available to me at the moment, and I am sad about that.
This is the official Cloudflare incident URL:

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/incidents/xvs51y9qs9dj
Ditto - I'm sitting here, wtf I'm not running Nginx on my blog, but I'm getting an Nginx response, hit IP directly....oooh.... right that doesn't make sense it's working fine. Cloudflare can't be down, that's next to, wait, status page (to their credit it's got a status note). HN here we go...
Same here, except DNSimple.
This was very educational, all of a sudden I couldn't reach 60% of all websites I normally visit everyday. I guess this is the cost of laziness under the guise of DDOS protection.
I was setting up some DNS for a site, when it suddenly stopped working after 30mins of missing with the settings and googling I gave up come in here, and see this.

My sites that are just using DNS are working fine, it's only those with the orange cloud, proxy turned on that are broken.
Yep. Came here when I saw two of my sites go down before I even checked Heroku or Cloudflare
> apple isn’t generating that much waste

They shipped 1.65 billion devices in 2021.

For the price we pay, we should be leasing them and Apple should be taking them back and properly recycling them.
Can't really roll back that change
Kind of ironic, there was a big "cloudflare is bad and a central point of failure" article on the front page just a couple days ago.

Found it, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31801947

edit: Not that I necessarily agree with the article even in light of there being an outage, cloudflare has been pretty good for us. Just thought it was interesting.
Linode control panel being down doesn't mean that the servers they host are down.

For *most* web facing apps/sites, a site hosted on e.g. Linode like this, but not using Cloudflare, would be unaffected by such an outage.
Yes https://www.cloudflare.com/case-studies/digitalocean/
My mom typed my dad's book manuscript over and over and over again. Even a simple computer revolutionized that inhumane practice.

When I worked at Boeing circa 1981, I was expected to write documents out longhand and then hand it to the secretary pool to type. Screw that. I invaded the word processing room, a windowless room with about 20 women working on Wang word processors, with a supervisor facing them. With all the charm I could muster, I talked the supervisor into letting me use one. She warned me that it was very difficult to learn, and I must take a 2 week Wang course beforehand. I said nah, just gimme the manual, and I was using it in 5 minutes (she was horrified by that).
Nah, “Better Than Bouillon” is what you want.
Does Linode really use Cloudflare? They were bought by Akamai earlier this year.
The problem with crypto is that the main unique features are only "distributed trust" or the "public immutable ledger" aspects. Everything else can be implemented or emulated much more easily emulated with simpler, traditional technologies.

The thing is, nobody actually cares if the thing they trust is distributed or not. They just want to not have to trust some specific third parties. They very rarely want their information to be public and immutable.

For example, banks would really like to be able to detect credit card fraud where customers use a cc from bank A to pay off the cc debt in bank B. But they don't want to trust each other, so how do they exchange this data?

Crypto people would instantly jump and say: "Blockchain!"

But what's required here is not distributed ledgers, and certainly not public ledgers. The whole problem is thank bank A doesn't want to give B their customer records. Making it public is worse.

Instead what they do is hire a third-party that's not a bank, like Equifax, Experian, and the like.

These companies hold the ledger centrally, secretly, and don't tell anyone[1] the contents, including bank A or B! Instead, they sell back to the banks the "cc fraud analysis" only, after having done the cross-bank transaction analysis.

There are hundreds, if not thousands of companies like this around the world. I know of several that collect sales information from competing companies and then sell back the anonymized statistics to them. There's basically one for every industry, in every large country.

About 90% of what crypto does can be implemented much more sanely, cheaply, and privately using something like a cloud service.

For example, Azure SQL now has a "Ledger" feature where it keeps cryptographic hashes of transactions in a chain (sound familiar?), and keeps these in immutable blob storage. This blob storage can be restricted to specific private networks. Even if it is public, there is access control based on API keys and the like.

Corporations that need an immutable ledger that "none of them control but all of them can access and verify" can just hire a third-party to spin one of these up and host it in the cloud. Faster, cheaper, simpler, compatible with ordinary SQL applications, and private. That last one can't be underestimated. That's a killer feature that no blockchain can provide without crypto wizardry that only 2 or 3 people on the planet understand.

Ref: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/se...

[1] Have you ever wondered why the Equifax data breach affected the records of so many people from so many banks? This is why! Their core business model is cross-bank data collection and analysis.
Isn't linode owned by Akamai now?
How right was he...

If he indeed didn't buy one, he was spared 30+ years of technology catchup, crappy updates, encroaching on everyday life, privacy issues, and more...
> setting up a union is a hostile action

No it is not.

All stake holders matter. Some stake holders have power, some do not. Unions (when they work) balance that.
Any local data center.
My domains with DNSimple, and my servers are on Hetzner. There should be no dependency on CloudFlare, and yet they are down too.
Sure you can, but physically rolling back more cable takes a bit longer :P
Black Death origin traced to plague bacteria found in Kyrgyzstan graves
Perhaps not, but those who want to avoid Cloudflare for technical or idealogical reasons won't realistically expect identical performance from smaller alternatives. Same as using Linux. People use it knowing fully well it may not support the latest & greatest consumer gadgets like Windows, but unless people use alternatives despite minor downsides, we shouldn't be distressed when we eventually reach a point of global near-monopoly.
Your first link is returning 500 errors.

The second ... shows low overall rates of crime, as of a decade ago.

Grinnell has a population < 10k. There's likely some variance over years, and there may be specific years with a large number of reported incidents. There is also the possibility of changes in reporting or enforcement, or of specific events resulting in a large number of charges.

Without more specific and detailed information, I'm going to call your initial claim largely unsupported.

Archives of the HomeSnacks link show a larger number of aggravated assault claims for a single year. What that might be based on deserves further clarification.
Chill out. Go and get laid.
Shouldn't have happened in the first place.
Should have had something that worked on their own website to indicate the service is down, not needing to come to a somewhat obscure tech forum to find out the details.
AWS is so huge that you shouldn't generalize like that. If you want to, AWS is just a bare metal box in some data center. You don't have to write lambdas in typescript that talk to MongoDB to use the cloud. You can write Java that runs on EC2 and talks to Postgres. So I wouldn't blame the shift to the cloud, I would blame whoever in your company is advocating for doing things in a way that don't make sense for your application.
This is not the fault of NFS. The same thing would happen if a local filesystem suddenly went missing. The kernel treats NFS mounts as just another filesystem. You can in fact mount shares as soft or interruptible if you want.

https://kb.netapp.com/Advice_and_Troubleshooting/Data_Storag...
Seems fine in Melbourne but not Sydney
It's times like these when I'm appreciative of the simplicity of the HN tech stack. Was talking to some people on discord when it went down and then noticed some other websites were down. Came right to HN to see 5 different threads about this. Will be curious to see what the cause of the issue turns out to be
Cloudflare DNS Down – affecting many services
Yes and no. Obviously not great when everything goes down, but I find a strange sense of solace and calm when I know there’s a lot of people in the same boat and there’s little I can do but wait.
Today's actually the first time my site is down and it's Cloudflare's fault instead of my own. Obviously this outage is huge, but so far I've been really impressed with their reliability.
Clearly YC should start an Saas web host...
Similar, a bit more challenging: https://checkboxrace.com/
Putting the fact there’s cheaper options aside, who was this made for? They made an affordable computer supposedly for people without computers but it doesn’t have a screen, as if those people have ready access to a monitor or TV, and a 4K one at that. Maybe that’s not the target demographic?
I can't think of 1 invention in history that fullfil all of these.
Services that are currently affected:
- hubspot.com
- zendesk.com
- auth0.com
> a design doc written 2 months ago is never going to match the resulting code perfectly.

That depends how you're writing design docs. If a design doc contains arbitrary flowchars about what happens in the code, it will change.

But if you come up with designs similar to design patterns, you can document the pattern once, and use it in your code the way you use a design pattern.

Concepts that span a large codebase is also enormously paintful to figure out from reading the code. For instance object models / microservice architectures, complex state machines or security frameworks are hard to catch implicitly from reading the code.
Out of interest, what competitors are available?
Clodufare protects against DDOS? Does it do other stuff?
To those who are against a take home assignment (fair enough) how should employers assess your skill set?
So much for whoever downthread said "not all websites use cloud flare"
It's been 30+ minutes.

All of my home's Ring cameras have been inaccessible this entire time. It's not that big of a deal for me because I planned for that eventuality, but a lot of people have not.

If you run a critical service (like Ring) and your infra is tied to CloudFlare - you're stuck! There is nothing at all you can do. That's freaking scary man. If I was working infra at Ring I'd much prefer to get paged and start fixing the problem. There are very few problems that can't be fixed in 15 minutes if you plan well for failover...
Discord, Runescape down for me.

And some work related systems.. but that's less important.
I first checked DownDetector which is really good for individual services. Except they are now also down...
Considering the baseline "incentive"/"justification" for going to school in the first place is "because I said so", the incentives here are certainly additive because x+0=x.
Feel free to try https://login.linode.com/login

Whilst the incident is happening you'll see the Cloudflare 522 page.
Of recent gems: Elementary Number Theory by Underwood Dudley is easy to like. You can really see how it was written with an active reader in mind, with a good and doable set of inline excercises, key problems and additional problems. The material covers all the basics and doesn't try to be original, which is good for self-study.

Instead of listing other books I would suggest the following learning scheme of a programmer trying to deepen their math:

1. No need to go beyond basics. Any uni-level introductory math course is already more advanced than 99.99% uses you might have.

2. Know your basics well. Get 2-3 classic books. Work through the one you like most, but still read through the rest.

3. Practical book size limit - 200-250 pages. Math material is hard, 200 pages of good math is months and months and months and mo...

4. Setup a learning/reading routine.
Yes as a privilege that must be earned. Therefore the workers must give Musk more in terms of work efforts, to earn that privilege. In other words Musk is trading the privilege of remote work for more and maybe better work.

Musk doesn't give you anything for free, you must earn it if you want it.

In a sense that's just trading 101 but I wonder what it does to the morale. Imagine if the company cafeteria would give free lunches to only 1/2 of the employees, those who have "earned it" by being good workers. They would of course proudly carry a badge saying "Good Worker". Arbeit macht frei Lunch :-)
Their status page does show the service down as well as them having identified the issue and working on a fix:

https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/
So, yes, that.

But also, once you have and permit cars, there's more that can be done with a car, and other characteristics tend to support them:

- Large car parks and less walkable space.

- Businesses distributed more broadly across the city or town.

- Lack of services for pedestrians (e.g., deliveries for purchases, bus service or transit, etc.)

- Greater risk for pedestrians and cyclists (more and faster traffic).

Et cetera.

So the initial imbalance grows with time.
That indicates how much of the Internet depends on cloudflare server.
I don't understand why companies simply don't have outages, it seems like it would be a lot less stressful.