skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> We came into this with the goal of creating the next Google or the next Apple, and we exited with... what exactly?

The free software activists would like to have a word with that and the VCs really don't care other than making money. So it is futile to believe that they would ever change or even when after 37 years the free software movement has been hijacked by 'open-source' which the same companies like Google and Apple getting away with that.

Generally they failed to stop closed-source software and systems from proliferating and existing and the fact that some of these engineers who were formerly part of this movement jumped ship to Google, Microsoft and Facebook tells us that it hasn't gone the way they envisioned.

Just like how the free software movement failed to stop closed-source software, the anti-crypto folks will also suffer the same fate and will realise that it's futile to try to 'destroy' all cryptocurrencies and their projects. That view to even think of trying to destroy all of it is just as delusional as the pro-crypto maxis thinking that it will take over the current system, even post regulations. Co-existence is most likely outcome from this.

> I suppose it's not all bad - there have been some promising companies that actually deliver products for profit that came out of this era (see: Shopify, Stripe) but I can't help but wonder where we'd be without this entire misadventure.

The fact that Stripe, Checkout.com, Shopify and MoneyGram are using cryptocurrencies not only have legitimised some of them of having a valid use-case, it says that they are going to be still around for a long time. Not all these crypto projects or companies will survive, but only a compliant few will still be around; almost the same outcome as the dotcom bubble with a wipeout of many frivolous companies and a remaining few surviving.
> There's always a new pool of money coming new.

FTFY: There's always been a new pool of money coming in, so far.
I didn't mean citations so much as examples, since I assumed you had observed this in the real world to form your opinion.

I'm not sure I agree with 1, but appreciate the clarification regardless.
Transmission loss matters very little anymore. You just add more panels at the source. Marginal cost of the loss is zero. It is very, very cheap to deliver power by transmission line.
Apple is disruptive with these products, but won't ever dominate with their offerings, simply because they will lock things to an apple ecosystem and they generally have a history of loosing focus.

Freeform isn't really a competitor to Miro. Miro is able to do higher order stuff (it was used as a Visio replacement in my previous org). Microsoft has a similar product to Freeform called "Whiteboard". Its no where near as slick, but its free with Office 365. If Miro can survive that they can survive Apple's version. Especially since Apple's version isn't going to work on anyone with a PC.

1Password has made a business out of adding what apple doesn't provide and integrating what they do. They will likely retain a niche providing the "Legacy" password support, cross platform, and other areas Apple don't care about.

For the finance tools, basically apple will always be niche if they don't expand to PC / Android. They are currently operating as a middle man, leaving the true banking up to other financial institutions. I wonder how much they are going to be able to make out of this before they are either forced out, or have to take on more of the actual financial operations and how the current company could handle becoming that company if they needed to.
> I know nothing about cars

Meanwhile in the real world "Tesla tops the list of most satisfied customers in the entire auto industry"
So if it didn't exist how can you be so sure about dismissing it? It literally is a new paradigm.

EDIT: nice to see all the luddites downvoting me. Guess the meme is true -- we still are early.
>> the reasoning that we shouldn't use the free license plates because they're reducing the number of jobs making them doesn't make sense.

Yes, once the things are made, simply wasting the things on principle is, well, simply wasteful.

That said, if that step of wasting them is required in order to stop the practice of (near-)slavery, then the waste could be worthwhile.

Either way, slavery is bad both in it's own right and to the extent that it harms wider society by degrading the value of others' labor.

This could also be solved by requiring all jobs to pay a bona-fide living wage, as in, you cannot hire anyone unless you are paying them for 40 hours of work an amount that is sufficient to support them and dependents for all basic needs, i.e., food, housing, health, transport, etc. Perhaps an exception for dependents who are entering the workforce, who could be paid lower rates for a certain time. With this, then slavery wouldn't have so much outside harm in addition to its intrinsic harm.
It looks bad now, but really, when those contracts were signed (and paid for), layoffs seemed like an impossibility. And once those were deals are finalized, it’s not something that you can really pull back from. Sadly, all it serves to do now is remind potential customers of how bad things are right now for Crypto.

It a bad look, and I feel for everyone affected by the layoffs. But this isn’t a decision Coinbase made two weeks ago.
> A possible goal was to demonstrate the notion of a distributed neutral-to-deflationary currency that could serve as both a store of value and a medium of exchange.

Distributed? Check.

Neutral-to-deflationary? Mostly true.

Store of value? That hasn't held up so well over the last three months.

Medium of exchange? In theory, it is, but in practice, it is almost never used that way.
In most cases, and almost certainly in any minimum wage case, sure.

But sales people have a pretty directly attributable profit contribution.
Hydrocarbons are not a problem per se. It's burning the hydrocarbons, specifically the carbon part, which has the detrimental effect on climate.

Plastics and carbon fiber effectively keep the carbon from becoming CO₂.

Aluminum takes a lot of energy, but, unlike steel, the process does not release any CO₂, and is fully electric. It can be powered by hydro (and often is), nuclear, or solar energy directly.That's the point.
Inflation, Scarcity and the Road to Survival
Related to an earlier submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31775137

The submitted article is the 2nd of a series, the first part is "What People Don’t Get about This Inflation Spike" https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/06/02/What-People-Do-Not-Ge...
yes the temporal sandbox is one of the first things i requested when I joined :) it will come eventually just unfortunately is not a priority vs getting the rest of Temporal Cloud ready just to meet the insane demand
"on average" does not mean "most companies".

It could mean that, but in all likelihood it means that some YC funded companies make huge amounts of money for YC that sufficiently balances the losses that they keep doing it.

Ya know, like most investment (that works).
Same here. If they open up to third party password managers, I'll definitely use bitwarden to manage it.
Or, Musk could behave like a decent, mature human being.

The man is the richest person on the planet. The media is going to report on what he says because, you know, he's the richest person on the planet.

I heard the exact same arguments about how the media shouldn't cover Trump spouting off, and it's absurd for the exact same reasons.

These people hold incredibly sway over industry, politics, public policy, etc. Hell, Musk's behaviour has led to the Texas AJ investigating Twitter! Not shining a light on their behaviour would be journalistic malpractice.

The very idea that journalists should just ignore these people when they behave badly betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of journalism in an open and democratic society, while also failing to appreciate how much sway these people have over the way our world works.
Not if the judicial system is separate.

I would say the problem here is stupid laws putting people in jail for being in possession of drugs for personal consumption. I think it's a separate concern.
Question: what is the point of crypto if it becomes regulated like traditional financial assets? Crypto doesn't have any actual use-value like stocks or real estate, and its entire selling point was that it's decentralized and unregulated.
I mean that when I've asked people what utility they get out of blockchain they mention the ability to send BTC overseas quickly and easily, to countries in which it's difficult to send money. I assume they're not lying about that use case.
Lol. I called it!
Yet, the cost of transmission is not. A long transmission line might be expensive to build in the first place, but operating expense is near zero.

That is not the reason solar in the desert is a dumb idea. The dumb idea is putting it where it is maximally hot, instead of spread out in farmland where it is actively beneficial and also generates revenue year-round.
I am not prepared to make fun of this project, as other commenters have. It may or may not be a proper Scheme subset (it probably isn't). That said, it may have some use, by “hobbyists” (whatever that may mean, remember that Linus Torvalds originally called Linux a hobby), or even a wider audience. It may serve as a gateway drug to Scheme, Racket, and Common Lisp.

As for no macros, that does limit its appeal to Schemers, Racketeers, and Lispers. That said, while a crude define-macro implementation isn't that difficult, once you have an interpreter that can be run at compile time, Scheme define-syntax macros are quite difficult to implement properly. I can understand why they might have been left out.
It’s too late to edit my original post but this wasn’t meant as an accusation of vale, it was actually intended as praise for vale the tool given most others are basically keyloggers.

Very poorly worded on my part.
Could be useful the first time, but after that just clobbers things? Ten themes are not enough for any but the most casual users. These cases don’t fit the terminal well.

If it were a curses app with complete (or non-clobberful) customization I might see the point.
The impact of for profit prisons is hilariously overstated. Only 8% of US prisons are privatized, and it's only in a few select states. The UK, Japan, Australia, and New Zealand all have higher rates of prison privatization.

Correctional workers unions do far more local and federal lobbying than any private prison company. The CCSO fought tooth and nail against pot legalization in CA. There are no private prisons in CA.
They publicly state their desired course of action each year. They've historically held an economic policy of maintaining perpetual ~2% inflation over long periods of time. Inflation is higher than that now, so they're trying to bring it back down. For more details see:

https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/monetary-polic...

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/mone...
They get a cut in both directions.
I made this game in order to try to wrap my head around central banks, inflation and macroeconomics, in order to get a better understanding of the aftermath of the global financial crisis and the current period of high inflation.

Here is a blog post that goes into further details: https://benoitessiambre.com/simcb.html
Sorry see my post direct in parent. My statement was poorly worded.
Yeah, the original vision was never plausible. BTC has absolutely never been viable as a currency and never will be.
> What part of the title is misleading? the HN title fixes simply removes some inaccurate language from the original article.

The HN title is editorialized by injecting tendentious and controversial framing not present in the OP article let alone the OP title.

It's not even accurate, these practices seem far closer to "involuntary servitude" than "slavery." The term "slave," at least in the American context, implies being chattel, which none of these prisoners are.

For the record, here's the OP title:

> US prison workers produce $11B worth of goods and services for ‘little to no pay at all’

And here's the current HN post title: "US prison slaves produce $11B worth of goods and services."
You're right, but I think this also means that we should take another look at the similar encrustations around real economies. Part of the reason the cryptocurrency thing took off so thoroughly is that a lot of financialization was already in extremely tenuous contact with reality. It was easy enough to sever the link entirely and focus on pure dreams of digital gold.

We need look no further than the 2008 financial crash for evidence of that; The Economist was reporting for years that there was clearly a lot of risk being shuffled around such that nobody was quite sure where it was. We all found out, but not until after a lot of the shufflers made their money and got out.
salary not total comp
At last report there were 3 GW of floating solar. That number is surely higher already.
100% efficient at the home, but not necessarily overall. Power generation itself and transmission to the home can be much less efficient (and much more expensive!) than, say, home natural gas heating.

Depends on the area and many other factors, e.g. how the electricity is generated. In much of the northern US/south eastern Canada, electric heating is much more expensive and less efficient overall.
The tone is arrogant and assuming as usual and the content is more meandering musings than insight.

If Wolfram is not a crank, let him submit some (any?) of his work for peer review and get it published.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crank_(person)
No, the parent comment is spot-on.

The idea that observations “contain evidence” is an idea that I’m unfamiliar with. I’m not sure what point you’re making about observations or assertions, or how the distinction between the terms is germane (not talking about the distinction between the concepts).

Asking for evidence is confrontational and a bit gauche. Better to ask someone to elaborate, or ask them what the reasoning is. That’s a good way to continue the discussion because it doesn’t frame the discussion as an argument.
In the UK I own a car which cost approx $800 a few years ago. I changed the tyres and oil.

It's been all over Europe, 20k+ miles at this point. It could break down at the side of the road in Poland, I could pay for a taxi all the way back to the UK and I'd still be like, 20% of this figure.

I don't get why anyone who isn't utterly loaded buys fancy cars.
Editorialised title. Original is "The New York Fed DSGE Model Forecast—June 2022"

Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
>" No one serious is calling Mitt Romney a nazi."

It happened a lot more often back in 2012 when he was running for President.
Investment fraud is not a new paradigm. Selling bags of nothing is not a new paradigm. Goes all the way back to the South Sea Company in 1711 [1].

I recommend reading Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds published originally in 1841 [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Sea_Company

[2] https://www.amazon.com/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Madne...
US envoy sees China lockdowns extending into 2023
Or none of it had any effect, and something psychological or undiagnosed was resolved.

It's a completely meaningless list for us and (possibly) for OP.
Any advice for those getting rekt in the traditional markets, or are you hoping that doesn't work out too?
Most of those companies are well over 100 years old. I can’t be certain that Adidas in Germany is a terrible place to work but I can say that China HQ is bad enough to get workaholics to bail on it, worse than Amazon China.

Germany’s underperformance in founding new companies in the last 50 years is puzzling but I doubt shorter work hours really explain it. They’re actually working every single one of those hours.
https://paloaltoonline.com/news/2021/08/06/new-study-finds-l...

I in no way imply aviation is the greatest poison emitted by humanity; it is one of the most selfish emissions by any standard. It is not that leased fuels support meaningful industry as suggested, nor is it as if there are not alternatives. Instead, the FAA and pilots of piston driven planes have simply decided lead poisoning is a justifiable price to pay for people living near an airport in exchange for individuals getting to fly their quarter million+ $ aircraft.

Everything you suggest it is useful for could be performed with the already proven and no longer new unleaded alternative. Defending this practice is asinine.
Leave gaps.
What you've described is a repeating loop. What makes a time crystal more than that?
> Could wind up with major governmental oversight moving forward, basically making damn sure it's barely ever adopted.

I'm basically of two minds about this.

One is that as long as people understand they're buying nothing of real value, it's fine if they want to "gamble". It's like a lottery ticket in this regard.

The other is if or perhaps when taxpayers will need to bail out crypto companies. At this point, I'll be extremely angry, and want the strictest government regulation possible.
Someone's getting fired :]
This is a very simplistic way of looking at things. A lot of the times in security, having an idea of what's not in there can be almost as valuable as having an idea of what's in there.

I will provide a very simple counterpoint to your argument: say I log in, log out and log in again, dumping my two encrypted session cookies in between. If they are perfectly identical, then knowing nothing else about the environment nor the encryption used, I already know that there's no timestamp value in the cookie acting as a time barrier, nor a challenge-response check, nor a nonce value.

Knowing that, I can focus my attention on stealing session cookies from users for trying replay attacks.
I always use cards I can freeze or PayPal and the like, so I don’t have to call anyone, I just freeze the card or stop recurring payments via PayPal.
FTX Arena in Miami
Titles aren't supposed to be editorlized in general on HN. I think there are some cases where it's ok, perhaps if the title is particularly nonsensical or clickbaity.
At least in the US we have this statement in the Constitution:

> Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

There is no such supporting language for calling imprisonment "kidnapping", whereas compelling labor from prisoners is explicitly identified here as your choice of "slavery" or "involuntary servitude".
WHO considers renaming monkeypox over fears of stigma and racism
> Maybe that's a Gen-X thing?

I'd guess not. We (gen x) grew before social media wokeism and have an understanding that thrashing your company or boss publicly isn't the smartest move. I bet these are some entitled zoomers right out of a college.
The WSJ news section is generally described as center-right, and the editorial pages as hard-right
> Now it's hurting pensioners, not just a bunch of degenerate gamblers and moonbois.

No, that's your public institution making degenerate gambles on late-stage startups. The largest venture capital investor in Canada isn't some poor victim, they are the perpetrators, the owners. It's completely laughable to paint them as a victim of some crypto-ecosystem heist.
Emitting only water vapor is well within foreseeable development. LH2 fuel would provide better range, besides.

In certain circumstances, ammonia as fuel would make more sense.
Here's hoping. If the federal government bails out crypto, then I will not be happy. I don't think it's gonna happen, because influential government figures have been calling it a risky, speculative asset class from the very beginning.
Agreed, no wonder they waited until later in the article to reveal that the trick was simply... more ice
White House official asks tech companies to settle questions about climate
60% of CEOs expect recession by 2023
I want to subscribe to a local paper but I can't get over the fact that they charge 3x as much as I pay for a Washington Post subscription. There just isn't that much news going on here.
I don't think crypto actually serves much of a purpose at retail. As a customer, what reason do I have to pay for my groceries with bitcoin instead of my debit card?
It was supposed to be cash without the burden of nation state oversight. Instead, it turned into a giant casino ecosystem of unregulated securities involving more and more layers of abstraction (exchanges, stable-coins, NFTs, bundled transactions, hedges, subchains, ...)
> Note that the dot-com bubble lost about $1.7T …

… in 2000. That would be $2.85T today, going by the official CPI inflation calculator.[0]

[0] https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1.7&year1=2000...
Non-zero, yes... But the practical # of 'homeless hodlers' will be a tiny fraction of the larger homeless population, so effectively zero.
The pensioners are the victims of both the fund and Celsius.

Neither should the fund be allowed to invest in Ponzi schemes, nor should the so-called investments be permitted to run them in the open.

[edit] I'd have the same criticism of both if they'd invested in Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC.
> truth, objectivity, and tolerance for opposing viewpoints

I think you are in the right place.

Here’s my opinion: make your own points without regurgitating obvious partisan “positions”; avoid flamebait partisan language such as “woke”; before writing perhaps consider if HN is the right forum for your content and choose the appropriate forum for your points; consider steel-manning your argument rather than right-handed punches to low hanging straw piñatas.

Reading your reply, you are repeating the same mistakes that I was responding to. An inappropriate comment about the “left”. Your response comes across to me as a hidden political dismissal that doesn’t acknowledge or respond to the simple point I made - I think your response is an irrelevant shift of the goalposts.

Meanwhile this thread is off-topic and a tree of responses is not appropriate. Your original comment has triggered divisive and controversial (flaming) responses from others - a strong indication your comment is objective and intolerant. If your comment is worthwhile, other people will defend your comment for you. At least you are checking your threads link.

The HN guidelines are always worth reading again, and again, and again: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: meta: I am engaging with you for two reasons: 1) if your near future comments are too divisive then I would expect this thread to be looked at, and 2) I truly wish to read your future high quality, strong, thoughtful and substantive contributions. I try to analyse how good/bad my own comments are: https://danluu.com/hn-comments/
Freight trains typically don't have the ability to lock the wheels, even in an emergency.
> The culture war is really around the fruits of the labor of leftists who have fought extremely hard to shift our tolerance window as far left as possible. If you say something they don't like, they will work to impose every consequence they can to both silence you and scare others into compliance.

are you talking about people being fired from their jobs for saying/doing things the company didn't like?

> The culture war will be fought and won once these evil influences are eradicated and people are free to express a non-leftist political opinion without fear of being fired or ostracized from society, and when the left starts prioritizing truth and objectivity over winning.

is that why fox news is the #1 most-watched new channel? how about on youtube? how many views do ben shapiro and tucker carlson get vs insert-any-leftist-here?

im not seeing this vast left-wing conspiracy, but maybe you can enlighten me....