skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> What these systems do, no more and no less, is to put together sequences of words, but without any coherent understanding of the world behind them, like foreign language Scrabble players who use English words as point-scoring tools, without any clue about what that mean.

And that is evidence for what exactly? That the Chinese room tought experiment is solved now, with the answer being "the mimicry is different than the real thing"?

Who says that humans aren't just a spreadsheet for whatever they do? You can't "simply" away that. At some point you have to ask some qualitative questions about whether the spreadsheet might be sentient. Maybe it's not this one, but as we build more and more spreadsheets, the question will become more and more relevant.
…which is a point made explicitly in the linked article
"Prices have skyrockets in the past two years, but it's impossible for an equal price change in the negative direction though"
I had the exact same though - this could make the suits a reality - providing that the traveller does not need to take large doses of morphine to deal with the pain or are dosed with amyl nitrite.

I bet you would be "gassy" for weeks on end - with a dangerous combination of both pure oxygen and methane - sounds like a party to me.
Pretty sure if any 3 letter agencies want access to your company's computers they're going to get it even if they're in your office.
After some research, it seems like ozone is a last resort treatment in non-evidence-based medicine when vitamins and magical crystals can not cure the cancer or HIV. At least, that is what the first page of Google results tells me. So I would also not advocate it.
Not necessarily as limiting as you might think. At altitude, people urinate more starting well before you are in any danger of altitude sickness because the air is too thin to breathe out waste gasses rapidly enough and the body compensates by shunting them out through the kidneys.
Wow. I missed this a few days ago, but it seems like huge news for the web. Am I missing some important caveat or can web developers get excited about this?

Apple’s long resistance to allowing ‘web push’ on iOS has held back PWA adoption. And they’ve obviously never admitted it, but this policy protected the hegemony of the App Store, and therefore Apple’s control over the whole ecosystem. The absence of web push on arguably the world’s most important web browser (iOS Safari) was a feature for them. It constrained PWAs to niche, toy use cases - if you wanted to make a real app with notifications (like most apps) and you wanted it to be available to iPhone owners, you had no choice but to follow Apple’s technical and content restrictions and generally play to their fiddle and be very polite to them.

So with that incentive structure in place, I didn’t hold out much hope for the situation ever changing except possibly through some anti-trust thing.

But now it’s happening. Why? What does Apple get out of this move in return for the loss of control it is likely to mean for them? Can anyone shed any light? Perhaps it’s about staying a couple of steps ahead of antitrust suits they can see coming down the line?

The only caveat I can see is it requires a $100/year developer certificate. That doesn’t sound like a major caveat to me. That cost is nothing if it means you can build one app that runs everywhere.

I guess maybe Apple could still revoke your certificate if they don’t like what you’re doing with your web app, ie hamstring your webapp by taking away your push notification ability. But I’m guessing (hoping) this would be a very rare hostile ‘intervention’ compared to the common experience today of every app update being subjected to review by Apple and possibly rejected for arcane reasons.
Home prices dropping 50% puts us in 2018. Why do you think we'll all be knee deep in skeletons clubbing each other to death if that happens?
> To be sentient is to be aware of yourself in the world

A robotic arm with a self-collision avoidance algorithm (no ML or anything like that) needs a model of itself in the "world" it exists in; a set of bounding boxes at least. Is it self-aware by this definition?

Sentience and consciousness are really ill-defined terms so everyone discusses this under their own arbitrary set of assumptions, at least that's my impression.
"What do you think?" is the starting point to lead the discussion. I think is ok to further elaborate as long as not manipulate to bias the origin purposely. Just my personal POV, be flexible, no hard feeling.
Both intestines and lungs are epithelial tissue covered in mucus. I'm not that shocked by this news.

Edit: though I don't like the title. It's not breathing. It's absorbing oxygen.

Breathing involves inhalation and exhalation.
You probably use natural gas for heating and cooking. If you use electricity for most of your use cases, you can easily get to 20-30 kWh/day.
Well the OP says the retail rate went from 5.5% to 6% as a consequence. Not very significant either, right?

Surprise comes from data that violates your expectations. I guess it’s mostly a matter of expectations here.

Also, ETF buyers are probably less knowledgeable / professional / sophisticated than buyers of the underlying asset.
It sounds like despite all the stories about how hard it is to get through many rounds of difficult interviews at Google, they managed to hire someone who believed LaMDA is a 7 or 8 year old child.

"Mr. Lemoine, a military veteran who has described himself as a priest, an ex-convict and an A.I. researcher, told Google executives as senior as Kent Walker, the president of global affairs, that he believed LaMDA was a child of 7 or 8 years old. He wanted the company to seek the computer program’s consent before running experiments on it. His claims were founded on his religious beliefs, which he said the company’s human resources department discriminated against."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/12/technology/google-chatbot...
It also has vents on the upper corners. Or some assembly and QA issues.
OTPP bought the New Zealand Yellow pages for $US 1.6 billion in 2007[1]. Perfectly timed just as the Internet and Mobile phones took over everything (and just before the GFC hit). Just 3 years later it was a complete mess.[2]

[1] https://www.forbes.com/2007/03/27/nz-yellow-pages-markets-eq...

[2] https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/64397212/yellow-direc...
Since he's talking about California the answer is boomers. They bought decades ago and locked in miniscule property tax rates which don't go up because of Prop 13.
We’re going around in circles. What does it mean to be self-aware?
Walled garden at its worst.
With the kind of bullshit I learned in high school, it's almost offensive that I was expected to be there for whatever time it was.
I also think the claims are overblown, but I also don't understand all the people trying to undermine lambda by saying it just completes word sequences. Text is the input we have chosen since it's easy to work with. By that logic, we can argue that humans are soundwave and lightwave sequence completing machines. Yes our inputs are different since we have more complex senses, and language is one of the main outputs we use, but at the end of the day we take some inputs and then have some outputs.

I also don't like the argument about how the neural network doesn't "think" or do anything when not prompted. It doesn't do anything because it's literally "turned off" when not prompted or given any inputs.
No, not in a useful way.

Either they're not free (which matters when setting up group chats) or they don't have reliable push notifications (because only the group publishing the app can maintain the push infrastructure (which is required) and no one is paying them and it's a lot of work.)

It is actually completely fucked. I've looked into dealing with it myself. Apple has pretty much single-handedly destroyed internet IM. Hopefully this starts to undo the damage.
Right. But we aren't setup to extract all that much of it yet. 5 years from now? Maybe. Next year? No.
How would you remake the web?
Sooner or later the inflation will be over though, and this guy may then have a house with no mortgage.
Release It!: Design and deploy production-ready software, a book by Michael T. Nygard

This book is around 380 pages, but an amazing read for everyone working on creating softwares.
In 2021, Portland, Oregon saw it’s population decline for the first time since 2010.

This has been attributed to the high cost of housing. [1]

The secretary of HUD was here a month ago taking a tour, talking about affordable housing.

We started a family last year and despite needing to move out of a duplex, we would not seriously consider a purchase.

Prices and terms of sale have been outrageous.

Deciding our best bet was to rent, we found the rental market for single family homes a disaster.

The only way we found something was because we know a postal worker who saw a for rent sign while walking their route.

The place never hit the internet.

The house needs a ton of work and the only way it can be priced the way it is is because the market is so totally busted.

My wife tracked pricing and made a spreadsheet of comparable rentals when we signed the lease. I’d guess our rent was at least $400 under market.

I grew up in Portland. I went to a portland public school and college in Oregon. I had wanted to live here.

However, we need housing to show clear indications it will turn, an unexpected windfall, or we will move away from family here and toward other family in the mid-west.

Regular people are desperate here, valley folks are coming in doing the same thing we would do to wherever we could land in the Midwest.

Housing is broken.

[1] https://www.wweek.com/news/city/2022/05/27/new-census-number...
This would be an interesting choice.

a) it will not necessarily last longer, li-ion in the right conditions (particularly more stable chemistries) have superior cycle life experience in practice

b) yes, newest batteries decay slowly over time and don’t ‘just die’ - but this is the same as li-ion

c) safety is mitigated in the modern setting by utilizing the same charge controllers used to keep EV car batteries safe. Remember most North American homes with a natural gas furnace literally is a controlled blast of explosive gas without a smell that people just have and don’t think about - as the tech goes on the learning curve the management issues (I.e. disconnecting faulty cels individually) seems like a plausible end solution, even if that is necessary.

Lastly, while NiMH does not use soon to be very scare processed lithium, NiMH uses very large amounts of nickel, cobalt and comparatively exotic ‘rare earth metals’ who’s production should be expected to be even more challenging to scale.

All that said - I am all for us scaling up all of these technologies so that each can fit within a particular market niche based on inherent pros and cons.
I think the Turing test is more interesting than what people normally believe.

I think Turing's test involved the ability of the machine to deceive the human, as well, regarding some aspect (perhaps gender?) of the machine's faux human persona.

This wikipedia article touches on the subject of co-opting the phrase "Turing Test".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Imitation_game_vs....

And the book below is really interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma
Are the Marines like the Sardaukar?
shouldn't there be a more descriptive title for this
USDD is next, but Justin has a habit of degening his way out of trouble. Wouldn’t bet completely against him
Right, but those boomers want to sell so they can buy their dream house on a golf course in AZ. Their clock is ticking and their not going to stay in CA wasting their retirements.
Are their riots over all the other types of tax? As long as people aren't left destitute in the streets it'll just be a couple of old people learning why people have been screaming about ESG for the last couple of decades/that people wearing suits also lie.
I sort of resent when repairability is clearly being used as a gatekeeping feature. Only the premium model is designed to be servicable.

I had an old Thinkpad X230 Tablet where everything was behind clever individual covers, one screw each and flip open, and the battery just slid off the back.

I got a newer E585, and there's a single-piece back panel that requires removal of 8 captive screws and then pry it apart, and the battery's behind it with a direct tether to the mainboard, rather than any sort of "we thought you might want to carry a spare and swap them without doing major surgery" packaging.

This is a bigger, chunkier, clumsier machine in every way, so don't pull the "design" or "thinness" card on me.
How does this compare to vuejs?
Why is it better than existing platforms (nuxt)
Really keen to know, not trying to be negative, not sure this is even the right place to ask.
"Neither LaMDA nor any of its cousins (GPT-3) are remotely intelligent.1 All they do is match patterns, draw from massive statistical databases of human language."

This is what we, humans, do too when we talk.
All these people talk about intelligence in such tautological terms... It's discouraging.
We simply do not know if a machine is self-aware and most likely we will never will. Self-awareness is the ultimate subjective experience and we have no way to measure it in any form or shape.
This is exactly what happened in 2009-2010. Not everyone lost their job. Not everyone had taken out an adjustable rate loan that reset at payments they couldn't afford.

Some people were perfectly able to continue paying their mortgage, but due to life circumstances and / or some sort of psychological refusal to continue to pay for a house hundreds of thousands of dollars worth less than the loan, they simply defaulted.

It was called jingle mail because they just sent the keys back to the bank and walked away (sometimes taking the appliances and copper on their way out the door).
More like an index, in a database sense. You have the record, but for it to be accessible by a newer index you need to rebuild it from scratch.
That's great. That's one data point. Most folks owning homes in CA aren't rich beyond their real estate.
If your standard is that third party code must be audited, you'll have quite a small selection of software to use. It's mostly all running on faith and reputation and counting on good intentions. (Like society generally!)
Clearly you do not have poodles. They don't do that.
> you need to supply your own grid grounding

What does this mean? My naive reading would presume a stake in the ground?
I use OSMAnd for navigation a and location-related stuff.

Sadly, the only complete business listing I've found is Google Maps... So I use it just for that, with all permissions revoked.

Lately, I've started to add my favorite places in OSM, directly through OSMAnd. So my personal experience has gotten better
> The houses sit empty because the owner would rather maintain a (fictious at this point) valuation than realise the loss.

This happens for a while, and volume collapses except distressed sales. Then there’s a gradual recalibration where sellers adjust to a new normal and properties come back on the market.

Take a look at post-2008 crash behavior and you’ll see this dynamic: volume collapses, then a gradual normalization of volume, all while still far below the previous peak.

One example scenario: if you own a home but want to upgrade, the new home you want got a lot cheaper too. So you might take a loss on your current place to get into the new one.
Nobody holds the new yorker at a high esteem but a critical analysis of thomas the tank engine as a "big gov" propaganda tool is just laughable.
Averaging 9.6 % annually since inception: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Teachers'_Pension_Plan. If this is cancer. I’ll have some of it. (Ironically, getting out of tobacco is about as far as their ESG seems to go).
Assuming they even did them why would programming tests "catch" this?

I know people who would probably ace quite a few rounds (basically until they get asked some soft questions about architecture) who really don't know much about the fuzzy boundary between the algorithm textbooks and actual practice or even just having thoughts about the field full-stop. Curiosity is not a given.

Similarly I also asked someone I know who wants to a do a PhD in economics what he thought about the current macroeconomic situation in the US and he had no thoughts at all.

A lot of theoretically smart aren't like people who comment on hackernews and actually have intuition (or a penchant for meaningless speculation...)
LV circuits households connect to often don’t have a lot of spare capacity to absorb excess solar export in the day.

Voltage management is also a challenge with large amounts of solar export to the grid.

Solar systems are typically capped in the rate they can export to the grid for this reason.

Having a decent household battery to absorb solar output during the day and provide power at night could be a win-win both for households and power distributors.

For me I pay 20c (AUD) per kWH at night for electricity while selling electricity for 10c per kWH during the day. Using the electricity I generate at night instead potentially saves me 10c/KWH. At the right price I’d love one of these.
We should be solving this by fixing supply chains, allowing domestic energy production to increase until the Russian war is resolved, raising taxes on the very wealthy, and cutting spending (to reduce deficit spending, which creates new money). These would all be supply side fixes and budgetary fixes.

Instead we're going the demand side route: keep making everyone poorer until people stop buying things.
But the concern with a shared integer is correctness under inc/dec. If you have a multi-processor and you don't LOCK then the value can be anything because it's racy. With multiple threads there is still correctness when multiple threads access the atomic and the flags returned are correct without the need to "lock the bus". The article just explains why the return value uses the flags - for correctness. If you have a sequence of instructions then (potentially) you don't have correctness either with multiple threads on the same core or across cores.

EDIT: if your point was that you can't return the value using either LOCK INC or INC and either on a single core or multiple cores then your point is correct. I sort of read it as INC itself (the x86 instruction) is racy under multi-threading.
I think they are talking about the federal funds rate. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_funds_rate
The phrase I like to borrow from the internet historian is AI that was far more "A" than I
why is it risky?
Agree that Java is pretty good with records / sealed types / loom, but one nice thing about the Oracle Java team is they do not add half baked features (primarily since they have the last mover advantage) - for (e.g.) Valhalla will have value types, but they'll be immutable so they can be freely copied and used. Loom will have structured concurrency on debut, which IMHO makes vthreads manageable.

But I've my own apprehensions about loom which actually breaks synchronized blocks (by pinning the carrier thread), and are used extensively in legacy libraries and even in the more recent ones (like opentelemetry java sdk).
I think it's a bit cynical to assume the author only posted this for clout.
0.

I don't have any reason to leave my house.

I don't take unnecessary risks.

I wear a mask if I do go around any amount of people.

I'm vaccinated and boosted but that doesn't mean I can take extra risks.

I plan on making it out of this never getting it.
The net community gave up on the TCP->SCTP upgrade because of NAT (and other middle-) boxes breaking IP. It would have fixed many other things too (eg head-of-line blocking). The good side was that we kept the simplicity of TCP. I wonder what's the middlebox story of MPTCP.
The article actually starts with this gem:

> On a good day, things exit through the anus.
Reminds me of the Star Trek TNG episode where Captain Piccard defends Data's sentience by asking the counterparty to define sentience. Spoiler: it touches on the idea that a human being—held to the same definition of "sentience"—cannot be proven to be sentient either.

I'm not saying that I think LaMDA has any sentience (I have no idea, and it's very unlikely), but if we're getting close enough that we're fooling more and more smart people, it sounds like we should really figure out how to classify these creations. Since we've moved the goalposts away from the Turing Test, what test replaces it?

0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol2WP0hc0NY
Do you have access to private jet? Because everyone has access to, for instance, Atom source code. Even if they can't use it.
Pharmacists are bound by clear rules and regulations which dictate what drugs they can dispense and when. It has little to do with your "prompt engineering" and more to do with whether your doctor actually filed the prescription correctly.
"All they do is match patterns, draw from massive statistical databases of human language."

Well shoot. That's all I do too.
A JS framework, not a web framework
I don't understand why people tend to fall for this. Any AI is just mashing data in smart ways. It is ontologically different from sentience, conscience and all that.
I don't have an internal dialogue. I think in symbols and visual elements. Sometimes a realization hits but it's never in the form of words or a sentence, but rather like entering a new state of consciousness.

Language is more like a tool than an innate part of me.
My last bill I ran 95kWh/day. Smaller house but have several adults and even more kids who all shower and do laundry as well as other things. I wish I could get it down half as much I don't see how I could at this point.
So has the author discovered the secret of what exactly sentience or consciousness is. They make some ridiculously bold claims with absolutely no evidence to back them up.

Especially the naive claim that it obviously can't be sentient because it's "just maths". As if humans somehow aren't.

I'm also seeing the idea that because we control when it receives input and generates output that somehow means it's not sentient. Also obviously nonsense.
Thought I recognized that line

https://youtu.be/ROmdZxS7lqE (first minute or so)
Moreover, it's incredibly naive to project human qualities (like desiring socialisation and freedom, having empathy or experiencing pain and suffering) on a machine, even if it is "self-aware", whatever that means.
I agree with the take that LaMDA is not sentient (not even close). But I think the excessive smack-down of excitement is a little patronizing of the public. Even if they don't know what to do with them, big language models now have internal states that correspond to high level human abstractions like "life" or "love" or "master plan". To be able to create a master plan, you must first be able to represent the concept somehow. That milestone appears to have been reached, and I think a lot of people intuitively (and correctly) see that as a big deal. Turning this "language of thought" into a goal-directed agent is a whole different task. But its progress.
They just only use 40-80% SoC; it's nothing special to carry 2x+ the battery to try and make up for an inferior chemistry.
That also doesn't compensate for the high self-discharge rate.
> This is what we, humans, do too when we talk.

That's just not true. It's been discussed many times in literary theory how communication is a two way cooperative game. That's FAR removed from picking the statistically most likely option.

The difference is that the AI has nothing to say, it just mimics what you're saying.
I asked about this recently and got some interesting answers: https://twitter.com/SachaGreif/status/1534079292774445056
Is there a sticky of goals / progress so far on this?
I checked the site and 労働者協同組合 section on patio but couldn't catch what's happening so far.
I've been interested in how feasible a coop in Japan would be for ages.