skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
How do these on the new base model air compare to an m1 13”?

Any benchmarks yet?
If payroll for you is too high you will learn the words 'verdeckte Gewinnausschuettung' the hard way.
An... extra 4 pixels in height resolution?

Like... they just found a manufacturer that already made these screens and didn't want to retool for Apple's order, or what? Why extra 4 pixels?
It doesn't force Safari. Chrome is absolutely allowed to create a browser and track users and monetize them on iOS. They just have to use the same rendering engine.

I'm not Apples greatest fan (see my latest comment), but there is a major difference between iCloud or OneDrive being pre-installed, both which is OK with me, and Candy Crush showing up in the start menu on my work laptop or some stupid game altering my login screen, again on my work laptop.

And yes, I too am a Linux user.

Why choose between various dumb and evil options if nice is available? (I know, some people get as mad at font problems and alignment on Linux as I get on microlagging on Windows and boneheaded CMD-TAB on Mac, but each to their own.)
I think it's 3 memory buses because it's rated at 50% more memory bandwidth than the M1.
It’s Been 50 Years. I Am Not ‘Napalm Girl’ Anymore
I think there are many, many beautiful and charming spots in Seoul, but I don’t see any of them here. And through thousands of years of history and various wars, Seoul definitely is a mosaic.

My impression is that this author doesn’t have a particularly great sense of photography - he just faces a storefront and snaps a photo.

I enjoyed reading someone else’s perspective, though.
That’s precisely why I skipped M1 altogether. The M2 gains are great and we will have more mature software. The second M2 Pro drops, it’s an instant buy.
What I would like to know is if this takes off, will I finally be able to use my Yubikey on all the same sites that suppprt Apple Passkey?
Or feature detection in web development, which made `document.all` an exotic object (ECMAScript speak) in modern browsers [1].

[1] https://tc39.es/ecma262/#sec-IsHTMLDDA-internal-slot
First graph of the first set of graphs on the page shows M2 as 18% better performance for the same power consumption as M1. First graph of the second set of graphs shows a GPU performance comparison between M1 and M2.
You are not wrong and it's a really terrible thing they are doing with all their devices outside of the Mac Pro and maybe Mac Studio.
One difference is taxes, the UK price includes VAT whereas the USA price adds tax at checkout so they aren't really comparable numbers. Further, the pound has fallen so you'd expect they have to increase the GBP price to maintain margin.
> It also delivers 50 percent more memory bandwidth

Anyone know if this means much in practice for a typical dev user?
chill out. you seem so sure of everything in life that i doubt you'll really hear out other thoughts. enjoy your echo chamber life, cheers.
M2 has a media engine, which was previously reserved for the higher end versions.

Considering that M1 was already an overkill for the most tasks, I think it is a meaningful "tok" upgrade.

Besides, I kind of expect the trend of ASIC to continue. Instead of having more extreme and extreme lithography, it kind of feels more appropriate to have computation specific developments.
Low-level waste storage is not really a problem and it can be disposed of safely, plus screening for contamination reduces waste volumes. Waste is designated by potential for contamination and the designation is applied automatically based on a variety of factors, so screening can (and in practice, does) only reduce.

But you're not wrong about the final storage issue for the really spicy stuff. It's a frustrating problem that has been ignored, at least in the US, mostly for politically complex reasons that are difficult to resolve. There are a variety of technical solutions that have largely been ignored while we continue to sit on it; you can legitimately debate the safety and viability of those solutions but they do at least exist and are probably better than what we do presently.
Seriously? Just a single external screen again?
Sure, Anker sells some
Secrets are easy to securely generate and it would allow importing, not exporting. If you allow importing then the user can generate the secret, store it somewhere safe and import it into the device. Then if they lose that device they can just write the saved secret to a new key.
> The new Air has everything I want except the HDMI

I use a USB-C -> HDMI cable. Works great on my Dell.
The chaos of people being able to build whatever, wherever, is probably why Seoul and Tokyo both have remarkably reasonable rents relative to their size, prosperity, and national importance.

These cities are a bit like slamming NYC, SF, and LA together into a single megacity. And yet rent prices there are generally much lower than the most comparable big cities in the US.
> Games?

Yes, games. Even as a floundering mess, Blizzard rakes in 300-400mm/quarter on a single game that is a PC exclusive, without insane microtransactions/loot boxes.
That's the case for the M1 Pro and M1 Ultra. The regular M1 only supports a single external display.
May I interest you in microKanren? You can just roll your own. Here’s a shameless self-plug for a close reading I did of the paper that introduces microKanren: https://github.com/ashton314/muKanren_reading
That is just next year :P We are already halfway through this year, right?

Anyway, I look forward to every shitty site asking for permission to send notifications adding to the trillions of requests a year...
If this is about "[hardware devices] for generating and authenticating accounts" like WebAuthn FIDO et al what happens when I upgrade my Macbook. Do I revert back to password in order to associate the new private key (or hardware generate password) with my existing account?
> I wonder if a M2 mini would have been perceived as competition for the macStudio.

I don't think so. The smallest Studio has twice as many Firestorm cores and the M2 tops out at 24GB.
AMD recently teased a ~15% single threaded performance increase for Zen4 when they will move from TSMC 7nm to TSMC 5nm.

Apple just teased ~18% CPU increase while staying on TSMC 5nm.

Sounds like they are doing just fine.
when the m1 initially shipped, i was watching this issue like a hawk. rosetta was really cool technology, but they seemed to really miss the mark in terms of many developer workflows that involve intel vms and containers.

it was particularly interesting to me as i always got the sense that a lot of the success of the intel era macs was carried by their popularity and (and recommendability) amongst the internet development and engineering crowd. it seemed to me like a mistake to potentially alienate that group.
The reason why their ecosystem “just works” is because it’s a tightly controlled vertically inte grated prison. The second you allow choice and a multitude of hardware and software configurations is when you start seeing complexity for users as well as instability.
Because Apple does not have infinite development resources.

There have always been far more important things to work on than an iPad weather app. In this case they happened to get it for free with their Dark Sky acquisition.
True but i havent found a way to do the publishing part nicely yet
You can charge with both on the 14" and 16", at the apple store a few weeks ago they told me the next one's will likely have the same capabilities.
I am honestly a bit shocked at the low numbers you and parent are reporting. I have not used Windows in a long time but Linux is generally assumed to be less power efficient on laptops and yet I have no problem getting 7-9 hours out of my year old ZenBook 13 OLED.

That's still nowhere near what you get on a MacBook Air but perfectly usable imo.
FIDO logins are not shared across relying parties (sites), each site gets its own (that's what makes FIDO phishing proof). If you want a single identity that multiple sites know about you'd, login using a third party identity provider where you'd use your passkey.

FIDO2 resident keys do support multiple identities for a single relying party (site).
Law enforcement doesn’t need a vulnerability to open a safe. Once they have a warrant they can just call a locksmith to drill it open, etc. Any vulnerability would only by helping the locksmith or the owner of the safe, at that point.
Oof - I understand your gripe completely, Win 11 is downright perplexing with some of this stuff, but if you're someone who wants the "Never combine..." option, you'll probably hate MacOS dock, the way window and app switching works, lack of any options there, and general "We know better than our users" mentality all over the place...
Why is that a downside? Magsafe was one of the best things about the older, early-2010's Macbooks.
What is really great with FIDO is that, if you're using a proper device the device also tells the user that he's authenticating to a site he previously registered on. So the user cannot be tricked into registering his key to, say, g00gle (with two zeroes) when he thinks he's actually authenticating with an already onboarded key.

A friend has got a U2F device (forgot its name) which has six buttons that serves to enter a PIN and the PIN to authenticate and the PIN to register are different ones.

Or the Ledger Nano S hardware wallet (and probably the X too) have a U2F app (so the "older" standard only atm) but there it's even better: the device not only tells you if you're registering the key for the first time or authenticating but it also displays the name of the site you're authenticating to.

This is one notch above many other authenticating methods: it doesn't just protect the server versus malicious users, it also protects honest users logging into malicious servers/websites.
Where did you catch that the trackpad was different than the Pros? My M1 Air has a glass trackpad.
Huh?

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/live-action/wwdc-2022/...

This was the first comparison on the page. M2 has 18% more relative performance than an M1. You can argue about the relative part, but the certainly included the comparison (and do for GPU, etc...).
Webrtc protocol doesn’t dictate 1 or 2. Although browsers do implement some of their own assumptions for this. By default the client side buffer can be orders of 100s of milliseconds. this is as you pointed out tuned for real-time or live applications.

If you’re doing something like YouTube/Netflix and want to avoid going to a lower definition of the stream, that too can be tuned, albeit you’d want to use simulcast and implement your own player (to feed the video and audio frames for decoding at the pace you dictate).
EDIT 2 because its super frustrating that theres an entire contract with the specific language in it that people argue past:

> it's not fair to suggest this was 73-page contract was an as-is agreement with no warranties express or implied

Article IV is what binds Twitter (Article V is what binds Musk). It very explicitly says this is as-is with no warranties express or implied. Section 4.25:

> Section 4.25 No Other Representations or Warranties. Except for the representations and warranties expressly set forth in this Article IV, neither the Company nor any other Person makes or has made any representation or warranty of any kind whatsoever, express or implied, at Law or in equity, with respect to the Company or any of its Subsidiaries or their respective business, operations, assets, liabilities, conditions (financial or otherwise), notwithstanding the delivery or disclosure to Parent and the Acquisition Sub or any of their Affiliates or Representatives of any documentation, forecasts or other information with respect to any one or more of the foregoing. Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, neither the Company nor any other Person makes or has made any express or implied representation or warranty to Parent, Acquisition Sub or any of their respective Representatives with respect to (a) any financial projection, forecast, estimate or budget relating to the Company, any of its Subsidiaries or their respective businesses or, (b) except for the representations and warranties made by the Company in this Article IV, any oral or written information presented to Parent, Acquisition Sub or any of their respective Representatives in the course of their due diligence investigation of the Company, the negotiation of this Agreement or the course of the Merger, or the accuracy or completeness thereof.
Not to kill the MBP sales probably. Apple doing apple things.
The AppleTV app on my LG TV is the best third party app on it, IMO. Looks and works great.
A major factor in achieving excellent battery life coupled with relatively good performance & responsiveness, on Apple products, is the OS. That holds for both Macs and iDevices.
They had a graph with M1 and M2.
You missed (at least) one: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Ddrinking_...
Funny, I switched to a linux tablet pc last year and at one point ran xsnow while running macos in virtualbox.
I had a 9520 for about 5 years. I had two issues, which was a broken left hinge (4k touch screen was two heavy for that part, I believe in the XPS 15 actually didn't suffer from the same issue), and swelling batteries, which caused various knock on issues. I also experienced the same issue with batteries from the dell latitude I got from work. Seemed to be a dell thing for laptops left plugged in constantly. I never had to deal with overheating issues despite having a Xeon (although it did get quite hot).

Its a shame because otherwise I really liked the laptop. Gorgeous screen, good trackpad and keyboard, and a perfect size imo.
I wish I could get something like this from System76.
Final Resting Place (Finland's Nuclear Waste Tomb)
great. on top of yearly environment destruction via phones. now there are whole displays, batteries, keyboards and a ton of other special material just to fuel this greed carbon monster.
See the 'God of the Gaps' argument. At any given time, there has been a list of things considered to be the rightful domain of philosophers and theologians rather than logical positivists. So far, the list has only gotten smaller.
Hopefully this will be compatible with WebAuthN in practice and encourage web sites to implement it (in a compatible manner). It often does take Apple's heft to force a change across the web.

Most importantly, hopefully web sites will implement support for multiple authenticators, so you can actually use this safely without relying on a cloud-synced solution.

I hope this pushes out other, less secure and more tedious 2FA methods. However, once it becomes popular, sign in with WebAuthN only will likely not be enough, as attackers learn to attack it (e.g. stealing software-based tokens, adding a cloud-synced device, hijacking already-authenticated sessions from compromised machines)
Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs (2019)
Framework is the closest I believe.
Personally I buy used thinkpads. Huge bang for the buck and they are pretty much bullet proof. That being said my daily driver is a 2013 MacBook Air running arch now.
>The only real problem with passwords is that humans are extremely bad at those without an aid of a password manager (when they’re no longer words but turn into pre-shared tokens)

Human are also bad at not losing/breaking their magical security totem. I need to know that I can easily backup codes to any of these hardware tokens for if/when one is lost. Ultimate security be damned.
This seems like a problem the specific to the US where employers pay for healthcare. Other countries probably don’t have this issue.
I was pricing it out, to get 512gb and 16gb of memory its $1700. You might as well save $25 a week until september and buy the m2 pro that comes stock with more memory and storage when they inevitably update the 14 inch and sell it for $2000. Better yet, wait 6 months and buy the refurbished m2 pro for $1700...
It took me 3 years to recover from a pretty serious case of burn-out, if there is any piece of advice that I can give you is take your time and do something entirely different than the thing you burned out on if you don't have savings.
It's not a "nitpick" you made a specific claim.

Not the person you're replying to but I'll reply: I think the M1 is really nice, although I don't care much for some other MacBook hardware design decisions and I don't care much for macOS either, so I didn't buy one, but I did spend some time considering it and looking at options.

In the meanwhile, my current ThinkPad is "effectively fanless, most of the time". What this means is that as I'm typing this it doesn't need any fans. It doesn't most of the time, even when I'm programming and compile my project (incremental compiles) it doesn't need the fans, and it remains fairly cool as well. With full compiles or some (not even all) games it does need the fans, and that's okay with me.

And this laptop is actually 4/5 years old; I got it "second-hand new". Newer ones are even better. Oh, and the battery also lasts about 15 hours on a full charge, which is not as good as a M1 machine, but "more than good enough" for me.

So "full fanless" would certainly be nice, but in the meanwhile "mostly fanless" is actually just fine.

Also remember that Apple only makes top-of-the-line laptops; if you buy a cheap Windows laptop: yeah, you're not getting an especially good laptop. But if you buy something in the same price range you often (not always) get something much more comparable.
it's stereotypes about jews being rich, i'm afraid.
Under the covers, this is webauthn, which is based on FIDO2/U2F. I knew it was webauthn as soon as I read "relying party" and the two keypairs.
I somehow ended up as Technical Guy out of the people I know. It can be a burden.

Livestreaming is, well, "the space" exists but it largely occupied by solutions where the Hollywood types figured this time they won't be caught on the back foot, so they're busy policing what is sent around, so the homegrown stuff is largely where it is at if you want shove movies around, but then you're veering into "how technical are the recipients?" and it gets interesting.

I used to run a RealServer decades ago. Video is always ... interesting.
Apple A4 (2010) vs A5 (2011)

- CPU: 100% faster

- GPU: 600% faster

Apple M1 (2020) vs M2 (2022)

- CPU: 18% faster

- GPU: 35% faster

Diminishing returns.
They are a bit over produced for me. The goofy video of the kid floating up because "light" that was touted as showing it in production. The only thing being shown off in that video is some F/X pr0n that someone concepted, some team produced, and showed nothing of realworld usage. Oh well, that marketing clearly works on lots of people.
At least in the US - the cost to repair a laptop is quite high & cumbersome - and the depreciation is quite fast - such that there aren't a lot of cases where it financially makes sense to repair.

This is a problem not unique to laptops.

I don't know how to feel about it.
> "Where's the future? A likely candidate may come out of the "Media over QUIC" work in the IETF"

The "future" is going to be a goddamned UDP socket sending compressed media streams across the web. We've reached peak abstraction. We need to come back to first principles, instead of piling on more crap on-top of the browser.
I wonder if the real-time nature of the model makes it difficult to scale out to run on individual nodes (e.g. something like Folding@Home which sends off compute tasks to volunteer nodes across the world). I would imagine the government, universities, and so forth have lots of idling desktops and servers that could be clustered together into such a system.

Obviously the bureaucracy and management of such a system would be difficult, but it would be an inexpensive way to give these projects additional compute capacity.
I am still on team "why haven't these been deprecated by all major browsers yet".

I literally get calls from people who believe their computer has "malware", and it's just dozens of notification subscriptions in their browser spewing adult content ads onto their screen.

Of all the web APIs out there, this is the one most aggressively misused for spam ads, and most rarely actually useful. We literally spent a decade demanding people add a popup blocker into the web browser, and a decade later, injected a popup ad tool back into the browser.
> All of this "green" technology we've produced hasn't made an iota of a difference, yet, in terms of the actual problem.

It has, without all the green tech we'd be in even worse shape.
Is this about the new MacBook Air? I'm in favor of them bringing magsafe back, but if and only if it also charges via USB-C cables as well. If this is true, and it charges 60W+, that'd be great.
An M1 Pro starts at 6 CPU P-cores (2 e-cores) and 14 GPU cores at twice the memory bandwidth.
Consumers buy €400 17” monstrosities with numpads and run them plugged in.
I should have been more specific. Test how many clicks it takes to add a key to one of your "mainstream" accounts. We would hope that services which support FIDO eventually gravitate to a single UX language, that also reduces the time taken to register new keys.
Can we switch to MT/mm2? (millions of transistors per square millimeter)
Ouch, that MacBook Pro 13" chassis makes me hurt. The air actually has a better body, that's disappointing. The display size, magsafe and function keys are all better on Air but it doesn't have a fan for sustained performance :'(
I just tried out the Surface X. (Arm-based Microsoft tablet running Windows.) There was a lot to like about it, but I returned it because it wouldn't connect to my printer and scanner.

In general, compared to a Macbook:

- It has a touchscreen

- It has a detachable keyboard

- It has a pen input

Microsoft's execution on the device is flawed. (IE, in order to use it as a laptop it needs a much more sturdy hinged keyboard,) but there's clear differentiators in their lineup.

IMO: Apple's lack of a touchscreen and detachable keyboard (or 270 degree fold) really hurts the Macbook lineup. If I could get a Macbook that I could also use as a table, or an iPad that truly ran OSX, I'd be happy.
Yes, an uber driver does not typically go around recruiting other drivers. That's not how he makes money
If we don't stop extracting it we'll be back in the stone age at some point.
not docker, but the linux virtual machine that docker on mac has to use because mac os has no other way to run containers (which would mean running linux binaries anyway).

on linux you would have pretty much no overhead from running software in containers.
It is implicitly centralized if the user doesn't have a means to control the secret key themselves. The minimally need to be able to import new keys into a device to keep control. Otherwise whoever owns those keys is really the one in control, which is really what the higher FIDO levels are about (as they are targeting enterprise customers that want central control).

L1 (software based) obviously fits this requirement. I think L2 also can because while it is a physical key it could allow for the user to import their own secret. L3 takes that away as it must come from the manufacture with a key that cannot be accessed. Not 100% on any of this, but it's what I get from their level doc... https://fidoalliance.org/certification/authenticator-certifi...
Remember that the crows are dinosaurs in a sense. The dinosaurs are still in the game; don't count them out yet.
Having ports on both sides of the machine. I use a usb-c display and need to flip the laptop upside down when docking. Otherwise my cables would get a bit messy or I’d have to rearrange my desk to avoid direct sunlight falling on the main screen.

Tbh, I have barely used the desk since I bought the machine, so we’ll see how much of an annoyance this will become in autumn:)
Really liked his book _Dignity: Seeking Respect in Back Row America_.