Easy there, big fella. Why would the signup IP be anonymous? I only created a "new" HN handle because I didn't have one before, and making a handle on HN takes like four seconds (kudos HN team). I lurk on HN. There's no conspiracy here, and I'm not even sure to which of us you are ascribing fell motives.

Anyway, to actually add some relevant content to this thread in case anyone reads this, it's worth thinking for a second about what me and pg are talking about. For example, when he says someone bought a fund of Conway's, they were buying a portfolio, that's an interesting point.

Let's say you are a hedge fund. The hedge fund has some volume of LPs. The fund itself has no "capital" /in the fund/ (for this example). The owners themselves are additionally LPs, but the fund is paid 2% of the AUM and a further 20% of returns in excess of a benchmark blah blah blah.

It's perfectly possible to acquire this fund without acquiring the portfolio at all: the ownership of the portfolio remains with the LPs. This is similar to buying a bank. You don't think of yourself as buying the deposits the bank holds, right? The scale of the deposits, as well as the scale of the AUM for the hedge fund, are a large determinant in the value of the enterprise because their revenues are a function of this number, but you don't own it.

What pg is talking about is different. If Conway sells a fully invested portfolio, ownership of those positions transfers from Conway and his LPs to the new person, but there is likely still a residual firm there, albeit with minimal assets: copiers, chairs, computers. The entity that exists to decide where to make investments is financially separable from the investments.

The thing is, with a VC fund, there is just...no one has ever built a VC fund that was so awesome that it was worth money on it's own, where it couldn't make MORE money by just investing capital on behalf of its own LPs. This is partly because VC is a very difficult business to scale (it's also partly because most VCs are not good at their jobs, if you consider their jobs to be generating investment returns, rather than accreting LP capital). Generally, if you take a VC who runs a $100m and give him $1bn, he can't generate the same returns on that fund.

In fact, cash flooding the VC market in general hurts VC returns because contrary to popular belief the "investment ground" (which, for most VC funds, is actually a limited geographic area, market, and bite size) generates only so many good deals per unit time.

For other types of investment, this is not the case, and they may benefit from economies of scale. Say your investment strategy is to roll deposits into longer-term high-grade securities. Have more money, make more money. In fact, return on capital goes up because this business has economies of scale, unlike VC investing.

Other investment firms will fall somewhere in between: there are hedge funds who, with access to greater capital (essentially a distribution problem in hedge funds. For example, if you work at a large firm with a lot of high net worth individuals, the firm may set up 401k-type plans with hedge funds. GS employees, for instance, can choose to put their money in AQR Capital instead of say...a Vanguard index fund or whatever you have your workplace, access to this distribution can be a huge boon for hedge funds who's model scales. Unfortunately most hedge fund managers are terrible at their jobs and their strategies are losing to begin with, never mind scale (unless you look at their strategy as "making money for myself", in that case most of them are geniuses. Even if you barely ever beat a benchmark like the S&P and it takes you a lot of risk and cost to do so, you still get paid extremely lavishly if you are effective at raising large amounts of capital).

This is why you occasionally see banks acquiring hedge funds (although, honestly, I think this is generally a pretty bad strategy). They aren't acquiring the portfolio of investments, like pg is describing with Conway, they are acquiring the future return stream of the organization that makes and manages those investments, and yes, of course, there is a lot of risk around losing the people, so these deals generally come with lockups of one kind or another (payment in restricted stock grants, generally). This is partly why people at investment firms are paid so lavishly.