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I can think of only two GUI apps I semi-regularly use that can't fit within those restrictions: VMware Fusion, and Steam.

Plugins are a red herring. Some poorly-designed plugin infrastructures will not be workable, boo-hoo. Valid use cases can be accommodated with proper message passing. Maybe we'll finally get applications that don't crash horribly because of buggy plug-ins?
Just another symptom of a society where success is defined by the amount of money one makes, and not by one's ethical integrity.

Get eyeballs for CNN, whatever it takes.
Cool until you click on their "contact us" page, and get a map. Do they think I'm going to fly to Seattle to meet with them, just to contact them? huh.

Edit: Ohhh you have to scroll down. Could be improved for dummies like me! :)
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> I'm expecting Windows to move towards a more sandboxed experience as well

It already does to some extent.

Internet Explorer was the first to introduce it (to my now out of date understanding), and it's since expanded to other products including shipped Windows apps, Office, etc.

It happens invisibly for the developer, if you think the registry that you access is THE registry then you're wrong. It's a proxy that you access, and the proxy has a view on what you will see or not.

An example mention of this is here (one of the first Google hits): http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access-help/enable-or-disa...

Basically, you the user get the choice, but by default your apps, the things they open, are all sandboxed and protected. For compatibility reasons you can currently choose to override this, but as you might expect group policy can be used to disable someone's ability to lower their security.
Well, it restricts my ability to have a clean menu bar. Honestly, it's the reason I haven't installed Growl from the MAS.
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Lag, well I used to dial up from South Africa, to places in Europe or the US. The call was normally blue boxed over analog satellite lines, one or two hops to a geostationary satellite and back. I used to bring my speed down to 7200bps since it was the most stable. I tolerated that because I had no other choice, and you learn to type very accurate that way and pause at certain moments because the next command will be a bad idea if you get the previous command wrong. (e.g. cd /tmp/bar ; rm -rf foo )

Things have improved for me a lot since. It does help that I live in the UK now. I believe nowadays within Europe something must be wrong to notice the difference (especially with SSH compression and screen), and the latency between the UK and the US has improved so much recently that I've forgotten that most of the servers I've been working on the past year is on the other side of the Atlantic.
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Ultimately, for me, this is about creating a reasonable user experience for the majority of users.

While it's easy to forget this when spending a lot of time in forums such as HN, _we_ are not that majority. This constant expectation that platforms used everyday by millions of people should be tailored to us is untenable.
I think this just shows how ridiculous the idea of a trade mark is when it comes to words in the dictionary.
It should work just like for Objective-C applications, it isn't implemented in Cocoa but at a kernel level.

The sandbox has been around since Tiger (or at least Leopard) and with a proper configuration it works fine with Ruby/Python.
Does Prime make a lot of sense in the US? In Germany I don't quite get it, because mail only takes two days anyway. It seems at most I would save a day here or then with a certain probability. Not enough to warrant the cost, and one book per month doesn't change that much.
That definition is so broad, it could be applied to almost any action that has benefit. Foe example, would mean that warming bread to make it crusty and crunchy is a hack?
Actually I think this is more about a specific ideology in the newsroom at CNN, and pushing that agenda.
> Because rather then there being many great distros to choose from and play with there is now really only one.

I really don't understand this comment.

There are very many other distributions, covering a wide range of needs.

- Fedora, Mageia, Sabyon, and Mint Debian : nice desktops, easy to use
- Arch, Gentoo, LFS : suitable for power users and tinkering
- Slitaz, TinyCore, Puppy : minimal, configurable

etc etc.

None of these are based on Ubuntu.
I don't see where Textmate and Vim differ in an aesthetic sense when it comes to working with the editor. The chrome on the two may differ, but when you use the same font and syntax highlighting colors, they are going to look the same

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9380/VimVsTextmate.png
The real problem here is that Arrington couldn't keep his mouth shut then and probably can't now either...

Extended version: Arrington should have simply walked out of the interview when he realized he was set up (which he should have realized quite quickly). There are very real problems here, but it certainly does not to help to address them via pomo hitshots or reality tv shows (looks like CNN is using this to promote a "black in america" entrepreneurship reality tv show that takes place in Silicon Valley). Likewise, all of this chatter is useless. Recipe for success: Build good products. Take your earnings and invest them in future generations (family, education, etc.). Repeat.
This quote made me laugh:

"We can never count on other countries to sell their mature technologies to us, so we have to rely on our own, ..."

Especially considering the large amount of hacking of western technology companies and government that is originating from Chinese military universities.
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I know the tech lead isn't a contractor (unsure what the relationship is between tech lead and designer, though)
> One thing people lose sight of is what I call the "whack a mole" problem.

Not that you said so, but I want to stress that the oversight you talk about isn't entirely involuntary. There a good deal of refusing to look at the problem, while trying to solve it anyway.

Looking at the Wikipedia page about the causes of death, I only see problems that few would not want solved. Plus, it seems to be exhaustive, so whacking every mole on this list would effectively Cure Death. But when I talk about it directly (as in "let's cure death"), reactions ranges from "it's impossible" to "why would you want to be immortal?"[1], to "that would be horrible!"[2]. Religion can also get in the way (though not systematically).

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One possible strategy may be to offer a 'limited' version of your app that is compatible with the Sandbox constraints for a low price. When a user tries to do something that is not possible due to the constraints, you can inform them that the pro-version (not installed through the app-store) can eliminate this and other inconveniences.

If you are worried about destroying the market value of your app, then just charge full price on the app store and allow customer's to 'upgrade' to the unconstrained version.

This is far from ideal as it incurs lot's of overhead by maintaining two versions and extra work for the customer, but it will probably be worth it to stay on the App store.
I don't wish any ill will on Arrington, but I have to wonder if he's not created a story out of context in the past himself.

It may not have been anything as damaging as racism, and I'm not suggesting that this is ok. It is a lesson that even those in the business, those who are writers themselves need to be VERY aware of what they are saying and how any little statement can be mis-cast and blown out of proportion.
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I've read this story back in May:

http://www.lessentiel.lu/fr/news/luxembourg/story/La-pomme-d...
Yes, quite good. It misses a few of the principles of a good resume though...

- Switch to a better font

- definitely lose the italics

- I'd drop the breadcrumb at the top of the resume view page, that could easily confuse someone reading it

- Certainly avoid usernames appearing on the public stuff

Good stuff :)
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If I remember correctly, Google engineers are given the choice of one 30" monitor or a two 24" monitors, which is what the new Google Reader was presumably built on and perhaps optimized for.

They also get a laptop (most choose a 15" MBP). I seriously doubt non one saw it on a smaller screen.
Good grief please don't suggest crunchbang for new users!!

Unless it's used as a transition for a clueful, but new to Linux, user who's going to learn a bit and then move to a different distribution. (Probably Arch or Tiny Core, if you're suggesting CrunchBang.)
Unless you're making a talking-head argument about China owning the US treasury, the only way the US "funded" this is via the publicly available information on NASA's work, in which case you have to mention the Soviet Union/Russia, too.
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Off by 10. I meant 15+ years.
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Actually, you can't (within the app, at least) - App Store apps can't make references to the existence of software that is outside the App Store.
Sandboxing in general is great. It only becomes a problem if there's no mechanism for users to adjust permissions for apps in cases where they are overly strict.

I love how sandboxing on smartphones have gotten users to ask more questions of why a certain app needs the permissions they request, for example.
Moreover, there is no mainstream socialist movement in the US. Merely calling Obama a socialist does not make it true.
I think he's referring to China's stealing of every piece of foreign technology that they can get their hands on.
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It actually makes a lot of sense. The thing you need to remember about the US is that it is huge. Oftentimes, when you order something, it has to be shipped from ~3000 miles away. The 'standard' shipping time is 3-5 days, but is more often closer to a week.

Guaranteed 2 day shipping is very convenient, and well worth the $80 a year it costs. Especially when you consider the included streaming of movies, TV shows, and now book subscriptions.
It seems pretty easy (and cheap), but it seems like it has a lot of limitations that would bug me trying to use it in a real-world situation.

For example, you'd need to have a short display name to conserve characters on SMS, but email subscribers would see that short name as well. Also, having the SMS messages automatically prefixed is kind of annoying (but I understand why they do it).

Also, email subscribers get both the subject and body of the message, while SMS subscribers get just the subject. So that means you'll probably need to put a short URL at the end of the subject line, which of course would also show up in the email subject line and look ugly.

I think this is pretty awesome for internal things like notifying sysadmins or texting you every time you get a sale, but I don't know if I would use it for anything customer-facing.
You get downvoted when your comments are low quality and/or don't add to the discussion. Every comment you write with "why did you downvote me???" is both low quality and doesn't add to the discussion.

Relax, it's only HN. Go build something instead.
What kind of plugin architecture do you propose that doesn't use dynamic loading or standard IPC mechanisms? Your "message passing" is much too vague.

Remember, this needs to be fast enough to accomodate FCP video processing plugins - hundreds of megabytes of data may need to be passed between the host and plugin each second.
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It's been available since Lion, my app uses it. We know everything about it technically. However, we know nothing about how Apple is going to handle exceptions and what will get you rejected. An app that I'm sort of working on right now absolutely needs read access to the entire filesystem, and possible write access in the future, unless Apple makes technical changes in sandboxing (unlikely until 10.8, effectively unusable until 10.7 customers are a tiny minority).

Judging by Apple's actions in the past, we probably never will get any sort of official information, and when we try to piece it together by community observation, it'll be inconsistent anyways.
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It looks really nice, but I am not sure what I would use it for. But maybe that's just me. Anyway, I find the idea quite interesting!
Is it possible to install the plugins to `~/Library/Containers/...` instead of the usual location?

Not that loading code is allowed on the App Store anyways, unless you're Apple, of course.
It's easy to say that, but when you're being interviewed by mainstream media it's very easy to get a "deer in the headlights" feeling and just hyperfocus on the interviewer. If you get nervous, the adrenaline can really hamper your brain-mouth filter.
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You can't buy a tablet with Unity or Gnome 3 on it anyway. I suppose they haven't completed user acceptance testing yet.
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Alright luckydude, moment of truth. Does your EULA say what another poster here quoted -- that it prevents the employees of the company from contributing to Open Source projects?
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Ugh, it's like the GPL in reverse.
In addition to what others here have said, Apple historically has been a hardware and software shop. It takes a lot more time for them to piece things together than it would for a web or mobile startup, something Apple have very low presence in themselves. Aside from the OSes and mostly desktop software (which are giant tasks by nature), very few of what Apple does can be directly compared to how most tech startups operate these days.
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No, this is worse.

This is a (removedswearwords here) company that creates high tech gadgets under the brand (logo & name) of a fruit going after small totally unrelated businesses using that word _in the original meaning_, as - erm - reference to the fruit. You know, the one that existed before any of these companies were even started.

Bonus points for logos that are not even _close_ to the Apple logo (I could probably draw a badly damaged circle and would be nearly as close/similar). And one of the examples listed (the German thing) doesn't use the name 'Apple' (which might have some kind of protection, stupid or not) but the German 'Apfel' instead.

Maybe one needs to have deeper insights into trademark laws or general business practices, but for me this is the definition of bullshit.

IF we're missing something here I might need to apologize and revise my point, but even if you're calling your local restaurant 'somethingwithapple' and have gazillions of Apple gadgets inside (waiters with an iPhone/iPod POS system, cash registers with iMacs or whatever): There should be no way for Apple to ask for anything here. Apple (the word), as far as I am concerned, is public domain, old and has only a single proven meaning: Falls from trees, tastes good with chocolate or honey.
I don't have answers to either of your questions, and neither does anybody else. The answers are not going to come from fights about what UI should be, but from as many OS developers as possible doing as many experiments as possible on the largest number of users possible.

My point was that this isn't going to happen if the community continues all of this back biting.
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Ah, the other version of China-as-a-bogeyman -- "technology" being "stolen".

Hint: The only reason China gets special attention is it's not a member of Club West. Funny how quickly stories of industrial espionage by NATO members drops out of the media -- if it ever appears in the first place.
Care to provide relevant citations for space technology that china stole?

Or is this just belligerent racism?
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What does a live version of your resume look like, if you don't mind me asking?

Would love to see the final version.
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Here's my problem, and I recognize that it is my problem, not yours.

As soon as I see that something was written in PHP, my prejudices announce that it is probably badly written and full of security holes.
Funded it? Are you talking about the US's financial relationships with China? That's just trade. If you're implying espionage, that's a bit of a stretch, at least for the US; the carrier rocket used is rather similar to a Soviet/Russian Proton, though scaled down, while the orbiters are Soyuz-like. The US hasn't produced a large hydrazine rocket in decades, and has never produced a Soyuz-like orbiter, so espionage there is improbable.
How do you guys cope with being in Adelaide? I have a sister stranded there, her husband works for some mob doing Moodle work.
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If the 800 days are work days this means 4 years of work. ~200000 dollars really is not much for this time frame - you could even call it a bargain :) Anyway, I think I won't donate since I feel like I might lose the money when the goal is not reached (I don't really want a discount on the license fee).
China's current space technology is far more similar to Soviet and Russian work than American work.
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Fellow named von Braun in the back of the room seems agitated, like he wants to say something but can't talk himself into making a scene.
That's his point; it's used as a perjorative in the US where in Europe it is not (without regard to the truth of it.)
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Pretty sure they made this page specifically to get to HN front page. Userlook was posted to HN a month ago, then 3 weeks ago, then 3 days ago... The previous attempts were more straightforward but not very successful.

See http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=userlook
AudioUnit plugins have strict realtime requirements that won't work with message passing too. If Apple disallows plugins that will be the end of the Mac as a pro audio platform. Not that a lot of plugin developers would mind so much after the insane platform churn at Cupertino in this last decade, but it's hard for me to imagine Apple would go that far.
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If you are 1) using Firefox and 2) a client-side RSS reader isn't a deal breaker, I would heartily recommend Brief%. It's a Firefox extension and, when I was looking around for RSS readers a year or two ago, it was the only one I found comfortable. It finally converted me to an RSS addict. Google Reader was all right, but I preferred a non-cloud solution, partly because I could manually refresh feeds and be certain they were up-to-date.

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It's really great to see China pursuing their space program so vigorously.

Hopefully it will continue like this and pull more technical innovation into China like it did for both Russia and the U.S.
That can be a really dangerous way of thinking if you apply it to everything else. It reminds me of when people define democracy as the will of the majority when in reality it should be the voice of the minority. Sure, we should aim to simplify everything but whenever someone makes a call to silence the minority it's not going to be a good thing.
This would worry me if the AppStore were the only way to get aplications on to your Mac.

I can see it being very disapointing for developers who enjoyed the convenience of the AppStore, but need additional functions. But I guess they will have to sell ex-Store

I can also see the benefit of Apple being able to say that 'Anything you buy on the Store is safe(tm)'.

However if Apple every makes teh Appstore a compulsory way to get software onto the Mac, I will drop Macs. And I speak as someone who has used them for about 20 years.
How do you guys cope with being in Adelaide?

OMG that never gets old!!!! Adelaide is Adelaide. It isn't Sydney or Melbourne, but it's not a rural backwater either - quite a lot of interesting stuff happens here.

her husband works for some mob doing Moodle work

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HN has been adding [scribd] links to pdfs for a very long time. Scribd is a YC startup.
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