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> The net effect is that copyleft apps simply cannot be shipped for iOS, and that is indeed a restriction imposed by the GPL. But that doesn't make iOS software free, either.

That is my point. They both have restrictions. RMS designed the GPL on purpose so that a third party is not able to place additional restrictions. Apple designed its devices so users can only install Apps by agreeing with the EULA first. One of them must relax the restrictions - which one depends on your ideology alone. I tend to side with RMS here

> RMS isn't complaining that Apple dissallows GPL software. He's complaining that they dissallow redistribution of the software on the device even where the authors desire it to be redistributable.

Eat your cake or have it. With a permissive license, you can install wherever you want, at the expense of "freedom" (for some definition of). Get a strong copyleft license and you cannot install it on some devices, but it will be forever "free".

I feel it is shortsighted to blace the blame solely on Apple, while ignoring the ideological war as a whole.
Conflict avoidance isn't always the adult thing to do. If people are strongly opposed to some views, or some aspects of some culture then why shouldn't they speak out about it? If that means they're jerks, so what? Ridicule or rudeness is just a tool in the toolbox and it can be more effective than reason.

The society we've built is by no means adult or responsible. Millions starve, get killed in genocides. Slavery is still rampant. Atrocities happen all across the world. Animals are treated inhumanely. The 1st world doesn't make much of an effort at addressing these problems. Why? Because people rather not talk about it or know the details about the truly horrendous things going on in this world. Ignorance really is bliss.

This status quo is only possible because we, responsible adults, choose to stick our collective heads in the sand. We need to get confronted with many things we disagree with and we have to stop passively supporting the status quo (unless we really think this is the best we can do as a species). In the big scheme of things hurt feelings don't matter.

If a vegan tells me with a smirk "If you knew where that steak came from you wouldn't be eating it" it's easy for me to get upset at the vegan for being a jerk, for ruining my appetite. But I wouldn't get offended if the vegan were simply wrong. I get upset because I know, deep down, that I would never set foot in a beef processing plant. Sure, the vegan is a jerk, but is he wrong?

Going with your example; substitute characters if necessary: You may not have a beef with the average day to day Muslim, but you do have a beef with people who have a beef with the average day to day Muslim. Even though your adult tolerance may just be based the comforting belief that the average Muslim is not the problem and that a few religious leaders are. The jerk probably believes that the average day to day Muslim is part of the problem. Who is right? That's a factual question about the world. And if it turns out, for whatever reason, that the jerk is right and you are wrong would you then change your mind? Would being a jerk then be justified? Or would you still choose the non-confrontational route and avoid giving offense? Is your true objection that only the Muslims leaders are the problem or is it a mere rationalization for politeness and civility?

(Questions are rhetorical. I'm not defending the sexism in the FOSS world, nor do I judge you for being tolerant.)
My mental picture did indeed have a robust, Antiquity-style beard.
Even if you're replacing the software, having the source allows you to ensure that your replacement is fully backwards compatible with the original

Same answer : True in theory, very rarely practical in reality. The only thing that really matters is the spec of the data format used by the program.

You can't just blame the Linux community, though.

I agree, it's not just that, but it's the main reason. 15 years since the start of KDE and there's still no sign of a unified, viable platform. If there was one, hardware support would follow.
50 users @ 4.16$ / month = 208$ / month subtracting 50$ / month in HW and bandwidth you left your admins with about 3 hours of work @50$ an hour including overhead. Sorry, most admins spend more than 3 hours a month dealing with internal email at small companies. (Troubleshooting, offsite backups, SPAM, logs etc.)
Most people start working without references. After that, they treat initial customers well and use them as references when people ask.
"all people commit acts of sexism."

I have troubles understanding that, do you have citations or examples?
Stallman wasn't responding to Steve Jobs' death, rather the slick of unbalanced praise for Apple's devices that followed in its wake (no pun intended).
http://assets.1000memories.com/blog_posts/iphone4s_1.JPG was taken with our app. Not a gimmick.

Almost all of the photos we (1000memories employees) upload to our site are through the iPhone app, and we're more than pleased with the results.
I am confused. Are you saying that high depreciation is good?
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PG, this is only tangentially related, but I've noticed you quite often use phrases like "starting a startup".

Considering you're an excellent writer, I figured you must have a reason for employing redundancy. Is there a reason you don't say "starting a business" or "starting a company"?
So many things moving/storing data, they don't even know what they're all doing
I'm talking about places where maybe 10 people really need email and 100 other maybe once a week if that. You can definitely justify the cost for those 10 people, but not for the other 100.

If you could mix and match free and non-free accounts this would work great, but you can't. Again, I'm talking about companies with razor thin margins where the technology side is not super important. What do they do now? They mainly use free gmail/live/yahoo accounts.
Do you like what you do? Is the pay or reward worth it?
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1. Having a monthly $75/mo plan would sure may it easier to stomach.

2. The pricing page is confusing, it looks as if there are two Dropbox for Teams plans, but really they're just comparing it to standard Dropbox.
Because I'm writing specifically about how to start a startup and only incidentally about how to start a business. The redundancy is phonetic, not semantic.
Yes, this is jackpot for FRA. It is also jackpot for those that wish Facebook less influence, since you can bet that Facebook traffic will be closely monitored by FRA, and if you don't like that, you must use Facebook less. But of course, Facebook will still know more about you than FRA will.
If your target market is wide then you have a wide issue
So we're rejecting anecdotal evidence because of the existence this other anecdotal evidence?
Google blocks you from seeing referred search terms and you flip it around so they can't see what server the requests on their API are coming from. Seems kind of fair, right?
Yet, the terms of the App Store are such that the end user is effectively incapable of re-distributing the stoftware, nor modifying it, unless he pays an additional "developer licence", at which point he's not an end user any more…

So, yeah, you can't distribute GPLv3 through the App Store. But even if you can do that with a BSD licence, what comes out is not free: it has been locked by the App store. So it doesn't really change anything: whatever the end user have access to is not free.
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Hi guys, we recently published a book with Mixergy about PG, and we got a ton of great feedback from this community. We've been working hard to fix all of the mentioned issues, in particular that it was unclear exactly what was in the book, the formatting issues on Kindle, and so forth

We'd like to make it up to you guys and let you decide what our next book will be - leave a comment with any topic(s) that you would love to read a book on, and we'll find a great author and publish the book that receives the most comments.

Also, we'll offer the whole book for free to download here when its published

You can reach us via email too: kevin@hyperinkpress.com
Thanks!
Ah, right you are. I feel dumb for blaming Chrome.
That's things like flammables, combustibles, weapons and more insidiously dangerous things like mercury (eats away at aluminium, which is common in airplane bodywork).
This is a sequel to this video from 2009 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvA9lA7_5FE
which was supposed to depict the world in 2019.

It's interesting to watch the older video now - it was shown before Windows Phone 7, Windows 8, etc. were revealed, and while those obviously don't bring us to the 2019 of the video, in retrospect it does show the design direction they were headed in (whether because those products were influenced by the video or because the video was influenced by the early design work on those products). So this might reveal more about the design aspirations for the next wave of Microsoft products than it does about the world of 2021.
I was expecting this "Scotty Effect":

Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Look, Mr. Scott, I'd love to explain everything to you, but the Captain wants this spectrographic analysis done by 1300 hours.

Scotty: Do you mind a little advice? Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now and they want it their way. But the secret is to give them only what they need, not what they want.

Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Yeah, well, I told the Captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour.

Scotty: How long will it really take?
Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: An hour!

Scotty: Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would really take, did ya?

Lt. Commander Geordi La Forge: Well, of course I did.

Scotty: Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker.
Why is it that people always complain about iPhone and iOS but no one can reconstruct these things "issues". I had 4 iPhones till this day with all iOS Versions on the market and I never, ever saw or heard a problem about "springboard is crashing 5 times a day". NEVER.
Why haven't I heard of you? Are you b2b or gov't supplier? Very nice site.
Your screenshots show an out-of-date version of Xcode. Hopefully that's not the only version you're providing.

What is the "2-Hour Daily Minimum" on the weekly plan or the "3-Hour Daily Minimum" on the monthly plan? Does the customer not have it for the full week or month?
You're just jealous no one's writing about you. :)
A beard involves grooming. Ratchet your expectations down even lower.
I know someone that worked directly the person in question for several years that is of the opinion the man's a straight out asshole, pure and simple. There's no slack need cutting because he does so willingly.

Furthermore, the more controversy his apparent or manufactured personality disorders can conjure up, the more attention he receives as a reward for bad behavior. So, basically, we're part of the problem.

I'm rolling my eyes, and moving on with life.
You're getting there... but next time bring up Hurd.
However, I think a lifestyle business can evolve into a startup. These discussions sometimes seem to forget that life isn't always neatly planned out in advance. For those of us living outside of the Valley, the tech community needs to remember that not everyone and their brother is plotting their next "startup."

What can happen is (and this is an amazing thing about the times we live in) that a side project takes off, slowly becomes profitable, allows the founder to quit his job, focus on it full-time and then one day, he looks up and thinks "wow, I could swing for the fences." I guess that could be classified as a "lack of ambition" for not having a vision in the first place. OTOH it could be considered a smart move because the founder has already made something people want.

Mailchimp, Balsamiq, DuckDuckGo to an extent, and in a smaller way, my own "startup" are examples.
What I also find fascinating is the number of individuals with this sort of background reading/commenting on HN. I think it's great! Are many of you into Bioinformatics?
I just want to mention that this article was previously discussed back in February:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2185174
You're still misinterpreting. RMS's goal is not merely getting GPL apps running on an iPhone. He wants the iPhone to allow redistribution and user-controlled software installation. Compromising on the license won't change that. The iPhone will still disallow freedom-respecting applications.
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They've had years to do something about the iPod Touch. If they didn't face it then, they're never going to face it.
It's not like you can join two Facebook accounts you made with different emails either. That alone makes it clear that this is isn't "basic functionality".
If such a thing does not exist yet, and if standard spam filters can't do the job for some reason, I would be interested in creating a filter that can identify harassment mails (or trying to create one...). If the need really exists, let me know.
Google Docs offers ca. 1 GB for free, and sells storage upgrades of 20 GB at 5 USD/year. That means prices match at about 3 TB.

So on the one hand, you have DropBox with unlimited storage and a limited, upgradeable number of users. On the other hand, you have Google, with limited, upgradable storage, and unlimited users.

If only Google's storage was a bit more usable. (Also, I have a hunch an AWS-based solution may be cheaper depending on some other variables.)

Like I said, the problem is not so much the package and price as it's the fact that it's the only package they're offering right now. I see very few use cases in practice for unlimited storage and limited users.

EDIT: s/unlimited storage/200 GB per user/ where applicable
I've lost respect for Porsche.
I wonder if making it monthly instead of yearly would reduce some of that sticker shot. Also, it would probably be easier for small teams to signup because they wouldn't have to scrape together as much cash up front.
I think you are incorrect. See ajross's post lower down on this page to get a better explanation of the reason, the terms of the GPL are at odds with the App Store EULA.
I don't think Gruber's objection is that it's an incoherent position, rather that it violates Stallman's stated morals.

It's along the lines of being against killing animals for food, but eating a burger because your friend bought the meat and grilled it for you.
He said hypocritical, not incoherent.
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10,000$ per million page views per year. So it's 10$ per 1000, more than the 8$ or 4$ per 1000 that was announced.

I don't know any big site that gets more than 10$ per 1000 pageviews with ads. It's insane!
Hi guys, we recently published a book with Mixergy about PG, and we got a ton of great feedback from this community. We've been working hard to fix all of the mentioned issues, in particular that it was unclear exactly what was in the book, the formatting issues on Kindle, and so forth

We'd like to make it up to you guys and let you decide what our next book will be - leave a comment with any topic(s) that you would love to read a book on, and we'll find a great author and publish the book that receives the most comments.

Also, we'll offer the whole book for free to download here when its published

You can reach us via email too: kevin@hyperinkpress.com

Thanks!
Using Meetup.com is a great idea - is there a meetup group for HN users in the Bay Area?
Don't think of it as $795/year. Think of it as $13.25 per user per month.

And it comes with 200GB per user and the unlimited version history feature turned on, so this is actually cheaper than five 100GB personal pro accounts ($19.99 per user per month) and it comes with twice the storage and the Teams features! A bargain!

The only remaining question is why Dropbox presents the data as they do. Perhaps they did some A/B testing? My hypothesis would be that individuals and companies simply think of prices in different units. I predict that the discussion here on HN will bear this out: Someone will complain about $795/year but be happy to pay $13.25 per month. ;)
I think there are some interesting similarities between Steve Jobs and Richard Stallman:

Both are luminaries in computing with significant impact. Both attracted a cult-like following. Both often will speak their mind irrespective the feelings of others. Both "give a damn" about users, though with completely different ideas about what is important.
"...isn't there a point where--when you are proselytizing about the evil labors of the man who died 24 hours earlier--you're kind of just an asshole?" Are you saying there is no amount of "evil labors" a man can do for which he deserves nothing but glorification for 24 hours? At risk of Godwinning, I think you and I can both name a historical figure or three for whom we'd have no qualms "proselytizing the evil labors of" less than 24 hours after they died.

The point being, your ad hominem is wrong, Stallman isn't being an asshole, he just saw Jobs as you see those historical figures. The fact that we all (yes, including me) disagree with that view of Jobs is irrelevant to and absolutely does not call for an ad hominem against Stallman.
There are plenty of programs written based on the assumption that there will be tuns of memory errors. Where systems can not only detect problems automatically but try a range of solutions to fix the HW problems without intervention. But it's more a question of cost to develop vs deploy. If your sending a probe to Saturn or sending 100 million devices in the field to monitor power transmission without interruption for years you build a vary different system vs severs that can be monitored by people.

PS: Don't forget your DNA is a single program that's been running continually for over 3 BILLION years because at no point did any of your ancestors die before having offspring.
People concerned with cell phone privacy and tracking should check out:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/cellular-customer-d...

AT&T seems like the worst offender with regards to storing tracking information:

The biggest difference in retention surrounds so-called
cell-site data. That is information detailing a phone’s
movement history via its connections to mobile phone towers
while its traveling.

Verizon keeps that data on a one-year rolling basis;
T-Mobile for “a year or more;” Sprint up to two years, and
AT&T indefinitely, from July 2008.
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Exactly. These threads bring up the worse behavior of HN. A lot of disgusting personal attacks and insults.

- top reply thread somebody posted allegedly private emails (now deleted)
- 2nd compares him with Rush Limbaugh
- 4th calls him a small angry man
- 6th a troll calling GPL not free software

And not a single insightful or interesting comment. Hence, flagged.

Edit: spelling
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One of Dropbox's biggest disadvantages for "teams" is the way it handles transitive sharing. If I share "Folder A" with Alice, then she can re-share it with Bob without my permission. I can see that she has done this through the web UI, but I'd have to explicitly look at the list of users with access to the shared folder.

Reading the "Dropbox for Teams" FAQ, I don't see if this problem has been fixed. It seems pretty essential for a lot of "team" functionality.
But pollution per marginal dollar of GDP per capita is lower. That could just be an artifact of the rich world relatively de-industrializing: as the US gets more Facebooks and Starbuckses, China gets more steel mills. But it also seems that one luxury rich countries pay for is lower pollution relative to GDP.
The empathy necessary to imagine the state of mind of someone who has just lost someone that they looked up to is not really that deep. You're laying out a straw man here. I'm not saying that people are required to have empathy with everyone. Nonetheless it's not unrealistic to expect some for a relatively common situation (death).
It really doesn't look like variables to me. A variable would be a reference to a singularly defined property, such as a color or border style, not a hook to an entire list of properties. Certainly it could be used as a variable: that is, defining a class with a single property and hooking to that. But let's assume it's being used as a variable, why not write something like this?

.data {
font-size:11px;
font-family:Courier;
color: #555;
}
.magic {
color: royalBlue;
}

<p class="data magic">Magical data</p>
<p>Normal text with <span class="magic">magical <span class="data">data</span></span>.</p>

I've inherited .magic into .data without sacrificing the ability to use .magic and .data by itself. As long as you keep your CSS classes semantic and disperse them intelligently into the markup, it's really not an issue of making large scale changes with minimal effort. Of course, in practice, this isn't always the case, but I think adding more ways to inherit properties will increase complexity more than help write good styles.

I think the outcry for these features is a symptom of a poor understanding of the cascade and the language. There are much larger issues I'd like to see addressed, like the wide adoption of layout definitions which has better rules for defining vertical positioning and more fluid widths, both of which are pretty nightmarish without resorting to tables.
I find it exquisitely ironic that RMS is railing on about SJ.. both profess an anti-dogmatic , against 1984 approach.

Both ended up creating uniquely dogmatic ecosystems. One exploited it at an unbelievable commercial scale surpassing the beast they rebelled against ( IBM, the 1984 ad ) .. the other has become a very strange priest who keeps railing on against other churches that spawned from the original.

I personally admire and respect Steve more.. at least, he had and inspired poetry.. at least, he made Jonathan Ive craft a speech of a life-time[1] at the recent memorial.

[1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPUsuY8JZJI&t=2905
I don't know why the iCrowd continues to be so smug about the iPad and write these articles. It just reeks of hubris. It's just a matter of time before what happened to the iPhone happens to the iPad. The same thing happened with Windows and Mac OS. Or McDonalds and nice burger places. Cheap plentiful shit will eventually overtake high quality products.
That is the nature of bug reports. I was baffled by the reports that Android UI is "laggy" because I have never experienced this nor had anyone I know complained about it. That doesn't necessarily mean it is not happening to the reporter.
Is this accounting for immigration? The US has the same issue: the white population reproduces at barely above or barely below replacement (it varies), but immigrants have much higher fertility. And, weirdly enough, comparable infant mortality.
> And why the story is so well-rehearsed, and how the myth has replaced the actual events.

Your post would be much more valuable had you provided even one concrete example of this.
I'd like to live in a world where neither are in charge, and we have the best of both worlds: beautiful devices that do not have restrictions on how they can be used.
I disagree with the making money argument you make, look at rawmaterialsoftware.com and the JUCE library, look at John Carmack's FPS engine releases. You mentioned Redhat. All these businesses make money while at the same time releasing software under the GPL. I'm sure other users can contribute more examples.
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