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The fact that Xtend can be easily translated to Java source code is a big sign that it probably won't have any dramatic impact on your productivity

I do not believe that there is any evidence for this statement.

Translating ARM assembly language into opcodes is orders of magnitudes easier than translating Xtend into Java, yet I would argue that even that had a dramatic impact on my productivity back when I was doing such things. If Xtend introduces proper closures just that right there will improve productivity.

However, if I were to accept your premise that easy translation implies little value added, then I would have to point out how wonderful it is that we live in a time where we regard writing a parser for a language like Xtend and the requisite bits of goo to spit out java is considered "easy".
Awesome! I think you're on the right track.

I'm a big believer in public portfolios. When I've been on the hiring side of things that's the first place I look. Now it's just a question of improving the both the quality and quantity of projects you're showing off.

How about getting a mentor to review your project(s)? You're not in an organization yet, but you can pretend you are--request a code review from a programmer you look up to.

Teaching others has helped me learn myself in the past. You didn't mention activity on stack overflow--answering questions there can improve your skills and visibility since SO is integrated with SO Careers as well.

Great luck to you!
Interesting point about the desktop widget. Initially, i believe in 1.0 and 1.5, you could click in the widget and type.

After that the widget was updated to launch the search app just like the search button. It basically became a 4 column wide search link.
I was in similar situation. I've learned most things on the job but it's good to know some basics about hardware, operating systems, and the network.

You might work as a programmer and do only that but software development is much more than just programming. There are framework, libraries, and architectures. Not just fancy words but ways to do more in less time. And of course: testing, debugging, and rewriting. The last three make good programmer great.

I come for humanities and I can say that programming is not much different than writing a book: read a lot and write a lot ... I think Stephen King said that.
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My opinion goes like this: all computer systems should track time in GMT and not care in which timelines the humans live. Your admin (or his software) in NY can convert to local time when he needs it. Your backup admin in LA can do the same thing. Why a system at this point in tech history needs to keep local time is beyond my understanding.
You beat me to it.

What I love about the Haskell version is it says only exactly what needs to be said.

sayHello - get the hello message for something.
putStrLn - send something to stdout
mapM_ - Do these things in sequence, I don't care about the result.

Together they say take a list of people, get their greeting strings and print them to stdout in order. It's hard to say it more succinctly without making things confusingly implicit.
Lets take your evaluation one step further. If you evaluate evaluate Gates and Carnegie through that lens, then governments are invariably more nasty than the sum of the world's past "monopolies". Do you agree with this?

On another note, Gates' effect on the tech industry is merely your opinion; the effect of his philanthropic efforts is fact.
I was in the same boat earlier this summer, it took them about a month to get back to me.
I just want to point out that through direct and indirect manufacturing (i.e. all the components Apple aggressively procures from multiple vendors in high quantities), and in creating markets for competitors to move into, Steve Jobs' ability to sell Apple II's, Macs, iPods, iPhones, and iPads has probably sustainably lifted millions of people in the third world out of poverty and into the beginnings of industrialization. And, to his credit, Bill Gates did much of the same in his impact on the personal computer industry. That's why Gates' philanthropy focuses on Africa--it no longer needs to focus on Korea, or China, or even India.

It's not as warm and fuzzy, and it's not as altruistic, but instigating a technological and economic revolution will always alleviate poverty and sell phones and tablets. In Gates' case, reinvesting his personal fortune back into philanthropy may have an even greater impact, but don't ignore the impact he made by building that fortune.
Thanks for the insight, you really hit upon several things I have been thinking about, namely my shortest path which I also think is javascript/frontend. Been looking into javascript alot more and am developing some couchapps as they let me use javascript/html/css. I am also building some bookmarklets for which I need to use plain javascript as opposed to jquery. I am also interested in mapping/gis so have been putting effort in learning that. Do you think that can be useful or should I focus on javascript right now?
I am sure they had quite a few, and their recent crash in value probably did not help much.
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You aren't that important if you gave a 2 week notice and no one gave a shit. I don't say that to be mean but to make a few points:

1) No one is going to blame you for not buckling down and getting shit done for your last 2 weeks.

2) No one wants you to buckle down and get shit done in your final 2 weeks, that's just asking for trouble.

3) You are being super anal trying to impress people now for potentially maybe possibly working with them in the distant future.

4) 7 months is such a miniscule amount of time, unless you are a water walker you probably didn't leave any lasting impression that the reference wouldn't be more than 'yeah, I remember that guy'. If you have formed strong bonds with your coworkers then this post was all a bit silly wasn't it?
I don't think it's too be an issue. You now have a chance to look at what solutions the competition has thought of and now you can incorporate and improve on some of their better features.
Also if your products are very similar, as you say, it will probably fall mainly on your marketing to who is more successful in the long run.
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How can you claim that the majority of art as crap? Did you do a survey? What is your definition of art?
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I'm pretty sure HN is the only place where a bad pun can spawn pages of earnest analysis and semantic argument.
I can't say I hate him, but I don't think the past decade of his various efforts has "redeemed him", as it were. I don't think he's "unredeemable", and he certainly deserves a lot of positive credit for a lot of things.

To me it seems like many people laud his charity efforts, but for them it's frequently an unexamined praise because "charity" is an effective applause light. It's hard to imagine that much cash attached to a charity not doing something good. (For some older criticisms, see http://blog.givewell.org/category/gates-foundation/ There's also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Melinda_Gates_Foundati... )

Anyway, it's worth remembering why people didn't like him in the first place. Most of those reasons have to do with long-term effects of our world, not petty things like he ate toe fungus or yelled at someone. It's not like Bill Gates stole some candy which is easy to redeem for, it's like he (excuse the very loose analogy) killed people, which is much harder to make up for and has longer (in that case, permanent for the dead person) consequences. I think Erik Naggum captured part of the problem of Gates as opposed to Microsoft pretty well in one of his rants: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3141310154691952@naggum....

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the IDE, you'll be left behind. aaaugh!"
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As far as I can tell it's only shipped as an Eclipse plugin. Are there any plans for a standalone Xtend compiler that doesn't depend on Eclipse?
"multi-line string literals" are very useful, because they enable you to create DSLs that are easy to use. As in the example, you can have HTML; or XML; or make up any language you want.

Of course, it doesn't help you implement it (you'll have to parse the string yourself); but it makes it usable. A downside is that it makes that code hard to understand for developers unfamiliar with the specific DSL.
Reading Java can be the hardest part about working with it.

When working with Haskell and discussing why you would want to use let vs. where or if vs. guards, Bryan O'Sullivan explained it to me by borrowing a term from journalism: Don't bury the lead.

You want to put what the function does right at the top. The first thing it should tell you is that it prints hello for each person in a list. Then you can put the details of how that's done in definitions below. It allows you to write functions so that they are easy to read and so that the structure of the semantics are separate from the implementation details and the requirements of the system.

Java's rigid boilerplate has always stood in the way. It would be like if every newspaper article had to list all of its sources, with full names and titles at the start of an article and then had to list events in chronological order. They would be mind-numbing to read. Sometimes I just want a good juicy sound byte right in the first sentence so I know why I should be interested.
I could post a youtube of it working wonderfully if you'd like. It is much like your product - it works great when applied right. I bet you just didn't apply it right...

Btw, can you reduce your thread trolling by 40%? You made it on TC, well done. Now let us talk about it without your constant marketing responses.
>that someone else - or a third party would not have been able to help kickstart the clone industry the same way Microsoft did by being willing to provide a license.

That someone else would have to resist the temptation of making mega billions by tying their software to hardware that they sell at a premium.
This is a nice idea, and perhaps is the original meaning of the term, but in practice sometimes a mess is exactly what you should be creating. Since you know you are going to be throwing it in the trash this mental mode of prototyping fosters creativity like no other.
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Most people don't try and build apps that they know will suit an audience, and most people don't try for long enough (as with anything).

I believe that anyone who works on an iPhone app in their spare time for a year, and who picks a known winner category (GPS tracking, bible app, free book downloader, offline city maps, etc.) can make a living.

Remember - most people who try at everything fail. Right now, the mobile market is red-hot, and it's a good way to make a living. It's got to be the easiest way to sell software and make money, with a much higher success rate than making a website or a Facebook app.

Moreover, you can command ridiculous rates as a contractor right now for iOS expertise - much better than for JavaScript programming on average.
I wonder what Larry Ellison will end up doing.
Thats a great idea. I am a big believer in/user of open source technologies and would love to contribute.
If you want to go this route, I strongly recommend you focus on javascript. There's enough going on in the frontend that it'll take you a year or two of solid effort before you're good in a number of them. By focusing heavily on one area, you'll get yourself marketable much quicker.

Now, the context in which you learn javascript and demonstrate it is up to you. If mapping/gis is your passion, then go with that. There are plenty of good mapping projects in the browser on github that could use help. If you would prefer a personal project you could, say, do some d3 visualizations using the geo facilities and have a great demo piece.
There needs to be something like, "I tried, but found it to be overwhelmed with low-quality, low-bid experts-at-everything offshore body shops and astroturf/sockpuppet-portfolio-inflated accounts, which disgusted me and so gave up on it." Ie, horrible signal-to-noise ratio. A cattle call.
I hope that reading the ridiculous theories by the economists (with the best answer voted down) doesn't look like what an economist sees when they read our analysis of software.
I'm Swiss. Back in the day, the Swatch group had an experiment where they tried to invent a new unit for time. They came up with the `beat`, also known as Swatch Internet Time. The unit represented a 1000 beat cycle centered around midnight on the Swiss meridian, ie. UTC+1. There'd be no daylight savings time.

All in all, it's a really cool idea, and I owned a watch for many years that reported beat time, but it was essentially useless. This is perhaps the most gigantic of chicken-and-egg problems, the mere fact that it is currently useless ensures that it will forever be useless.

More at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time
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how long did they told you it would take? Is that an offer?
I've used oDesk to hire developers & SEO article writers. From a hiring standpoint, oDesk is nice because you can review screenshots of work hours submitted for payment. I've never run into an issue where the contractor was trying to get paid for time they weren't working on our stuff.

I haven't tried other freelance sites but I do remember researching a few before settling on oDesk for its payment controls.

If you're willing to work within the bounds of the system, I'd recommend giving oDesk a shot.
IMO, the movie theater lobby is not a competitive market, and this is why it is expensive.

(This being because people habitually think about food only after they have gone through ticketing and are committed to the movie- and some theaters also disallow outside food)

If you don't believe this theory, then ask yourself why is food sold after ticketing, rather than before?
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Love the metric system. While stuff like this is cool it's too bad it'll never catch on.
You must think everything but well optimized, hard to write and read C/C++ is slow and bloated then. Which is fine if that is what you are comparing it to.
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I think we found a programmer to write some Windows mouse hooks for our java app. Paid him $100 for probably an hour or more of his time, so I guess you can find good developers.

If you're cheap, you'll get cheap programmers, that's about as basic as it gets.
Not my opinion; just going by commentators. I personally think it's hard to judge, and was trying to illustrate that it's not simply black and white.

Can you unpack your question and add some illustrative examples please? In what way are governments nasty, compared with previous governments?
I just got finished up with the last day of my four weeks notice. It was horrible to give that much time. My pervious boss didn't respect the extra time I gave them and my new boss is annoyed that he had to wait longer than normal.

Like a band-aid, just rip it off and be done.
I'm hiring developers for handl.it and I look for a concise summary of your objectives and skills.

Feel free to send me a message with this info and I'm happy to give you feedback. Good luck to you!
Update: it was a default judgement for not responding in time. So, it's not like this was a finding of fact. It's still a bit disturbing that Apple let this happen, but it's safe to say that this story isn't over yet.
I've read his tripe. His postulates are wrong.
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They told me it would take a week, and no offer. I looked elsewhere in the meantime.
the "rockstar" either looks like a god, for having foreseen some problems, or he'll be the guy who brought a tank to a knife fight.

Fights over. The guy with the knife killed you while you were putting the treads on. Meanwhile, the guy with the knife discovered that his customers actually wanted something else because they could run the first iteration of the actual product while you were worrying about scaling to a million customers. Maybe the customer is in the steak-house business, but you just stopped reading at "customer wants knives", got a hard-on and started building tanks.

Then something happens mid-project and it turns out that what was originally requested wasn't actually what was needed.

So you advocate over-engineering a just-in-case tour-de-force, instead of agile, iterative, responsive development. How are you getting up votes????

This post just listed traits very prominent in hackers - deep fascination for technology, perfectionism, need for deep focus and few distractions, concern for efficiency - and wrapped this package under the label of "lack of judgment"

Not so. The post listed traits found in very prominent in hackers but also found in ineffective, inexperienced hackers. And advised that to focus on just those traits is wrong. The key trait that separates these two groups is judgement. A "prominent hacker" will use the right tool for the job, right now.
Again, this is crazy-talk. Twitter themselves says that Klout can't misrepresent that I am "on" their service. But they are.

And, no, sorry, there are no other alternatives to Twitter. Literally zero. I mean, really--identi.ca? Don't make me laugh.
That's absurd. Just because the motive of the advertisement is to sell you an idea, doesn't mean it isn't done creatively and artistically. In fact, advertisements tend to be most effective when they are extremely artistic and unique.

Art is supposed to be emotionally engaging. What does a comic book do better?
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I'm not an economist, but I think the top answer makes plenty of sense. Price discrimination is an important concept for many products: cinemas, bus/train tickets, computers...

Instead of just proposing theories with nothing backing them up, like the answer that's being voted down, the top post refers to people who have actually modeled the problem and checked that their theories explain the data.
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The evidence for this statement best comes from a research paper* that attempts to formalize language expressibility . According to their formalization, language features are classified as macro expressible if they can be implemented in terms of local syntax transformations of other language features. The paper shows that expressivity, power, and conciseness come the most from those features that are not macro expressible. Yet, none of Xtends features seem to be in that category.

Since most languages don't have macros or compiler plugin frameworks, there can still be great value in adding macro expressible features, but, as I said in my previous post, these are less likely to be game changers in terms of productivity. These are the kinds of features that IDEs can make up for with templates and code generators. As an example, an anonymous class might be bulky, but it essentially provides the same feature set as a closure and the IDE is good at writing most of the boilerplate for you.

*see www.ccs.neu.edu/scheme/pubs/scp91-felleisen.ps.gz
And, if you decide to rename any of the methods on the classes you've mocked out here, your unit tests will continue to pass despite the fact your implementation is now full of bugs. And, if you do rename the methods or class you've mocked, you now have to update every single test for any class coupled with the changed method.

I've never understood endo-testing/mock objects in environments where the compiler cannot check your mocked interfaces. I also don't understand how people can aruge that you shouldn't be testing against the implementation and then say in the next breath you should be mocking out every single method call the internal implementation makes explicitly. You're just setting yourself to get lots and lots of green tests on code that will explode as soon as it hits production. Whenever I've done aggressive mock object based testing I soon have zero confidence in my tests because I get burned due to the fact that the mock objects eventually start asserting that the wrong behavior is right and my code explodes when integrated.

(And yes, I know the excuse here is that you should then write integration tests and functional tests too. But seriously now, how many tests are you going to end up writing for your 100 line Ruby class before you decide you're going overboard in the name of purity?)

Better to instead just write it so instead of worrying about no obvious deficiencies there are obviously no deficiencies (avoid side effects, state, extra coupling), and write some functional tests just to be safe. Yes, those ones that actually hit the database and test the interaction between multiple classes that TDD advocates loathe because they are so slow and impure. Slow they may be, but at least I know they're testing the code that's going to run on my servers. I'd rather have 10 tests break when I change one class that are easy to fix than have zero tests break when I change one class and let broken code get to production.
I use oDesk to find Python/Django work. Although most of the work hasn't paid as well as gigs away from oDesk, it's worked well for me while I build up to properly paid gigs: I've just got my first one for years, after focusing mostly on moving to the US from the UK, living in an Ecovillage and raising my now-four-year-old. It took a while to get used to the oDesk tool taking a screenshot every few minutes - I found it quite humiliating at first - but after my wife pointed out it's no worse than having people glance over your shoulder in an office, I sucked it up. I like knowing I have access to the arbitration that oDesk offers if you use this tool. The automatic time tracking helped me overcome bad habits, too. I like the detailed time logs, and I like being paid weekly.
Thanks for posting this here, Derek. Definitely going to employ some of these techniques in our next round of hiring.

I especially like the idea of getting multiple developers working on the first milestone, in parallel. Sure, you pay a little more but it gives you a better chance at landing the perfect developer for the 'full enchilada.'
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