Did you consider how many lithium batteries we have used in the last decade? from UPS to mobile devices, how many batteries are already in some landfills?

The point is that:

- there is no standard, most batteries are similar but not that similar to being able to disassembly them for easier processing, there are not really standard size and shapes etc;

- disassembly is dangerous, it's easier to light a fire, just try to see this live experimental recovery by a Chem researcher https://youtu.be/IH3djjP6tiA

- recovered material are not much easy to re-use

This are just SOME of the obstacles, the most technical, than we have the most social witch means where to move large quantities of batteries to process them, since the process is pollutant and far from safe and clean in environmental terms so not much want it in their backyard, how to create a supply chain etc.

My point is simple: there are some interested players who push this tech by any PR and lobbying means, selling anything as already there and perfectly doable in scale, at a scientific level not much different than "cold nuclear fusion" and similar stuff. Yes, lithium IS revolutionary but not as revolutionary nor scalable as that. So yes we can build EVs, but definitively not at the actual ICEs scale. Synthetic petrol, not a new thing, again is perfectly doable but again not at the same scale. We can't build&power enough vehicles on scale.

That's why we start reading here and there that most, intended as new and old poor must be concentrated in dense small/mid-size cities witch looks like https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/corporate/34827717.html && https://youtu.be/p-9X8Z2kJt8 in advertisement while in practice are more like https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/19/why-greeces-ex... witch essentially means padronal factories where 99% live to work at the owner conditions, and only few will profit from the new society because with such tech only few can profit.

Economically I can count myself in such few's, I built my house with modern insulation, VMC, heat-pumps, p.v. etc and I can afford actual EVs, I WFH so potentially I can recharge them via p.v. etc BUT there is a thing I know: divided society does work only if divisions are not much strong, otherwise they do not last longer and end up in deep unrest and disasters. Also no quick revolution end up well, things that last happen at a certain point in time, but spread slowly. Quick fires end quickly, with much damages.

That's is.

I'm deeply convinced that a new society have to born since the actual one is untenable and dying, that's not a matter of neoliberal's Great Reset or Xi new society etc, that's a fact now. I'm deeply convinced that the new society must have a far reduced environmental footprint. I'm deeply convinced that we are simply too much in numbers for our planetary resources and that's end up as always in unrest, wars, calamity of various kind to simply makes a big reduction in population by an extraordinary number of deaths (and that's NOT "green" at all in general). Simply the actual new society we see from propaganda can't work IMVHO. I can understand the idea of a mass guided disaster and genocide, really, it's not a moral question, but I can't understand the optimism and enthusiasm hypocritically sold and spread by any means.