skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Same... I'm not sure why people think that the guy who spent billions to create a reusable rocket that can land on little tiny pads in the ocean would throw his hands up and think the problem of bots and spam on Twitter is unsolvable.
Are there precedents of this? This looks like there is not much trust internally. I doubt this was the first Elon’s decision
Well, that's an algorithm. If you have to draw a diagram showing how edge cache nodes affect a user's results based on whether or not they signed in from New York or Phoenix, or if the downtime of a cluster affects the relevance rankings of tweets for a photography enthusiast, then guess what...

That's an algorithm.
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Depends on the car. Don't buy the average car. Buy a car for which it is true.

For a Japan made Lexus RX, that's true 90% of the time. In my case it's 100% true. There really is no other maintenance.
My boat used to deploy to the Persian Gulf, and for many years as long as the boat spent at least a little time in certain areas, pay for that month was tax-free. A LOT of re-enlistments (with those 6-figure bonuses) were done to take maximum advantage of those rules.
> Now he has a problem where his resume start/end dates don't match what he's claiming on LinkedIn or (presumably) putting on his resume

As a non-US person this is the most ridiculous reason to inherent anything.
Imagine having something like this for Google's and YouTube's algorithms; $100bn+ SEO industry would go bankrupt or at least they would pivot to some sort of advising but there wouldn't be the mayhem that we have today.
It's _really_ easy to disempower extremists.

(a) Linear timeline.

(b) Stop injecting stuff into people's timelines.

(c) Hide like and retweet counts from anyone but the person who made the tweet.

(d) Add a cooldown period on tweets: they're not visible for this period, and they can still be edited during it. Editing a tweet resets the cooldown period.

The problem with all this is that it drives down "engagement".

Addendum:

(e) Make it possible to prevent retweets (including quote retweets) from certain accounts you follow from showing up on your timeline. There are certain people you might like who retweet effluent, and you don't want that effluent going straight into your eyeballs.
I admit I was not at all aware of the many static site generatores there are... What a brave new world HN here introduced me too! I have a lot of studying to do. Thanks :)
In what way is it hypocritical? Surely you don’t believe they have to have an article about every media takeover before writing about this one.
I think Trump has said he will not join Twitter even if there is the offer to reinstate his account.
It has just been a few weeks ago that apparently it is unusual that i actively have to fight my thoughts to be able to talk or think thoroughly.
Most times i am so busy fighting thoughts that i can only hear words. I „try to focus“ on what people want from me and i it even feels like that is what my mind is focused on. But at the same time i can feel how my brainpower is actively used…
It is like white-noise to me, too, but much louder and by now i am used to it so i don‘t really hear anything.

I don‘t know why i wrote this, but your „mind-chatter“ and „white noise“ made me think here is a good place to jump in and see if anyone has anything to say to this… don‘t know… i am just exhausted…
>Musk's wish to increase transparency

What makes you think that his ownership will increase transparency. He has sued whistleblowers, he has sued and insulted and bullied people he disagrees with, he employs gilded-age tactics against workers who want to unionise... Words are cheap (especially when you're virtue signalling about things which don't impact your bottom line), but actions speak louder.
It is fine to compare it to the mainstream languages, that's what programmers do.
I wouldn't be too optimistic about that. Even though Musk has famously partaken of weed he's not a strong proponent of it.
While he obviously isn't a real world Tony Stark, other people who were very definitely involved in the nitty gritty have said that he's involved in the design. While he likely isn't doing the simulations or directly working on the hardware, it's pretty obvious that he participates in the design at a high level at minimum https://twitter.com/lrocket/status/1512919230689148929
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This is the most convincing answer to me. I learned this the hard way recently.
Linux is quite reliable. Maybe even more reliable in day to day use. However it occasionally breaks for me in very subtle ways and when it does break, I have to use technical skills to resolve the issue. That doesn't happen to me on Windows or MacOS. For those reasons, I don't think I'd suggest Linux to anyone who I didn't feel would be able to resolve issues on their own.
I don't think Netflix is "wok". Their content standard has just taken nose dive. Case in point: Stand-up comedy specials. Netflix pays out staggering $10M-$20M for this one hour stand-up. They used to be high quality and worth watching. In recent years, comedians have been using Netflix as ATM machine. You need money? Just call your buddy there, schedule a special 6 months down the line and collect money. This leads to majority of special with aweful content that you would probably stop watching in few minutes.

What Netflix experiencing is very similar to communist economy. Producers don't get paid for views hey generate and they have no market incentive. Unlike cinematic releases, you cannot go in loss on Netflix because deals are made upfront. There is no cost of failure to you. There is no real economic award or punishment from the market. So people just come in and slap whatever content they can to spend the available money.
I just wanted to thank you for this. This is the most succinct and easy-to-understand-for-non-investors explanation of the concept I've seen and now I think I finally understand it.
> The board represents ALL the shareholders, after all.

This is the part I don't get. The person who bought 51% of shares is also a shareholder. How come the board can discriminate against a single owner like this, just taking away their shares by force. Could they do it to any existing owner if they wanted?
I am exhausted by literally everything about this.
Anything but yes or no is TMI.
Anyone who actually uses Twitter already knows the algorithm:

* Chronological - reverse sort by date

* Home - for all of the followed topics, recommended topics, retweets and tweets in the past day determine the estimated level of engagement, include the highest and reverse sort by date. This is likely to be a fairly basic ML model.

It will be uncontroversial, technically unsophisticated and of no practical use to anyone - users, developers or researchers.

This is not going to be PageRank where some genuine new insight was discovered.
https://twitter.com/Kaitain_US/status/1514645842463891463/ph...

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1514747126210863108

He sold his shares in 2018.

What do you think made him sell in 2018 but still think he owned stock?
Crystal has a look-alike syntax to Ruby. But the semantics (the important bit) aren't even remotely the same.
No, the banks forced him to settle. It wasn't the SEC. Watch the video.

The banks didn't want a liability. The SEC disagreement was going to take too much time to resolve legitimately. If he didn't please the banks they wouldn't give him funding.
SQLite has write ahead logging as well

https://sqlite.org/wal.html
You and I might be technical enough people to suss out little details, but I suspect the average person probably also wants to know whether or not something like Twitter testing a feature flag (Yes, really!) is affecting their timeline.

If it affects results in the slightest, I think that's what people are asking about.

Yeah, if the new senior dev screwed up a deployment and now football fans in Dallas are suddenly getting fewer posts about the most recent athlete scandal all because a regional deployment was the only thing doing relevance record keeping, then yes, that's a part of "the algorithm."
> There isn’t some exact N. That’s like asking how tall is tall. It’s fuzzy.

For sure. That's why I'm kinda surprised corporations aren't already trying to get a head of things and say any use is misuse, especially in the era of trigger-happy DMCA issuers.

Beneath a tinfoil hat, I'm inclined to think the IP holders most likely to issue these takedowns see the potential in low-to-no-cost content generation and want to be able to use this technology themselves. Much has been said about the pop music formula—how nice would it be to license software to generate hit singles instead of dealing with pesky creative types?
I tried to make a pull request already, haha.

error forking repo: HTTP 403: The repository exists, but it contains no Git content. Empty repositories cannot be forked. (https://api.github.com/repos/twitter/the-algorithm/forks)
Then read his comment as "more restrictive guardrails" or "moving the guardrails", to understand his point.
> God is love, this is a simple truth found in scripture

I'm not sure which scripture you are talking about. If you are talking about the Abrahamic line of scripture, you can find anything you want, as Shakespeare famously said. Because you are apparently a good person, you focus on the positive aspects of the message, and that is great.

But there are people who focus on different parts of the scripture, or interpret the same passages in a different way, that lead to injustice and suffering. The fact that there are so many religious denominations reading the same documents but coming to different understandings shows that this message is anything but simple.

Famously, the Torah describes God's special relationship with his chosen people. Many people love to take excerpts from this as God's universal truths, but in fact these were only for the Jewish people. God had no problem commanding them to commit rape and genocide against out-groups. The claim that "God is love" is true only if you erase large parts of that document, or redefine "love" to be whatever God has commanded there.
Macs are overpriced garbage. I cringe when I see one.

There are so many good laptops that work fine on Linux.
I think many people have made assumptions about what Musk means when he talks about free speech. I don’t think (and greatly hope) it’s going to be an uncensored free for all, which typically leads to a toxic nightmare. Fingers crossed!
My HN account is rate limited by @dang, if I post more than an unspecified amount of comments in an unspecified time frame I get a message telling me to go away.
Also it should be noted that SQLite is a library, so it charges against the quotas for the main process.

This may become an issue with large run-time datasets even in read-only shared access scenarios.
The aggregate of a set of systems that maps inputs and state to outputs and state updates is...

still a system that maps inputs and state to outputs and outputs and state updates.

A collection of algorithms is just a bigger algorithm.
Do you really think that is what Elon sees in Twitter? The diversity of opinion?

I hate to break this to you, but Twitter is Elon's soapbox for raging against the SEC and swinging markets his way. You're basically telling me McDonalds has the best ice cream around meanwhile McDonalds couldn't care less about the quality of their ice cream. That is a loss leader for them. They don't even consider it a product. It literally just keeps the place stocked with followers for the influencers.
I’m an avid Uniswap and Compound user, but I don’t get your point. What is it about a centralized database that breaks protocols like Uniswap? They can provided the same transactions according to the same rules.
The only thing you said that I agree with is that Windows has better professional software support. Unfortunately, that's not what we're talking about. :/
This isn’t a good analogy. And landlords like to delude and justify that they are not one of the bad guys to themselves. They say oh that’s just your experience with bad ones. No, the entire system is rotten.

If restaurants went round gobbling up the food supply and then the only place to eat was at exploitative prices, then yeah, all restaurants would be scum.
It used to happen every ~5 days, it did for at least a year. It hasn't reset for me for months though, I guess they stopped doing that.
I for one am very sympathetic towards Elon Musk. I know there are dozens of ways to problematize him, and I'm not being dismissive towards them, but unlike most billionaires I think he's ultimately a well intentioned idealistic at his core, and most of his projects seem to come from a place of trying to make a positive difference in the world (electric cars, space exploration, alleviating urban hell, human augmentation, now free speech). So, I believe he has the means, the will and the competence to make a difference. If billionaires will keep existing this is the kind I want to see more of.

If you think I'm being naive or blind please feel free to explain me how. I'm almost eager to have my mind changed.
Tasteless trolling is far easier to produce than an insightful comment. That is why any platform that allows unmoderated "free speech" (with a large enough user base) will eventually degenerate into a cesspool.

Even those that have the self control not to engage will eventually get tried of filtering content and leave. Then your are just left with the 4chan crowd.
You can develop games just fine on Linux.
> has sued a kid for making a twitter bot

Kid or not, it's doxxing. Musk could have sued him outright but instead he asked him nicely to take it down and offered a good amount of money too. Kid's own fault he didn't take it.
I submitted this a few months ago and has undergone some major changes since then, adding:

- bandwidth monitoring
- a dashboard for showing plots
- support for storing logs off-system to mitigate some forms of tampering, and depending on your threat model could also be used by a router to cutoff network access for compromised devices
- overhaul hashing to reduce failures, other than a few cases outlined in the readme, hash failures should be seen as a sign of suspicious activity (I may be able to make use of ima_file_hash for future improvements?)
How do you notice when a notable actor/actress has blocked you?
I tried to make a pull request already, haha.

error forking repo: HTTP 403: The repository exists, but it contains no Git content. Empty repositories cannot be forked. (https://api.github.com/repos/twitter/the-algorithm/forks)

My thoughts:

- Explicit rules for temporary and permanent bans

- Edit button

- More fun and thoughtful conversations like HN

- Less thought bubble Brooklyn based reporters, less VC and side grind hustle snake oil, maybe more comedians and memes?
It just seems unlikely that the algorithm would be open-sourced right after a deal for Twitter is agreed upon (but before it actually goes through). I've never seen a buyout of this scale done by an individual, but I imagine the SEC and several other parties will need to be involved.

At the minimum, I would make a private Github repo first, add all relevant commits, and then make it public once there's actually content.
ClusterFuzz is a scalable fuzzing infrastructure
I can't believe they missed the chance to make it a rick roll. Such a wasted opportunity.
They probably have their own internal Git hosting service. Pushing to the public Github repo could be done at a later point, but the Git repo hasn't actually been created yet here, just the project on Github.
Trump says a lot of stuff. I think if he were given the option to rejoin he would do it in an heartbeat.

That said, Elon Musk isn't a big Trump fanboy AFAIK, so everybody assuming this means Trump is back seems kinda strange to me. Is it a billionaire solidarity thing?
Elon's fans really are insufferable.
The EFF is the Electronic Frontier Foundation. From their homepage: “The leading nonprofit defending digital privacy, free speech,
and innovation.” So technology, privacy… not really newspapers. You might be thinking of the ACLU?
What's funny is that the people who are threatening to leave for other platforms don't understand what an enormous amount of engineering effort it is to build AI at scale to control wrongthink. They think it's something that the platform owner turns up and down like a thermostat.
MyPy is great but it checks "offline" or "at compile time" if you know what I mean. It is like a super linter, and doesn't actually run the program (AFAIK).

What I'm looking for is more like a debugger or profiler. It actually runs the program, and then reports if at any time the type annotations deviate from the actual types. (I guess the general case is too costly - think of typechecking a huge list - but for most cases it should be possible.) There are runtime type checkers for python, but the all require modifying the code, and they don't work properly on the main module.
No, it's not binary. There are plenty of answers beside "yes" and "no".
It would have sufficed to provide just enough battery or capacitor to copy from regular RAM to non-volatile storage in case of a power drop. For reliability, you just need to ensure stuff is charged up again, on startup, before resuming.
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hey I recognize your over-attached tone and username, do you ever write comment about things rather than your lame preference? Last I remember you were making some point about Kotlin being created to sell intelij.
I'm also utterly gobsmacked how people here think "jump to the defense of billionaires" is in any way a substantive counter-argument.
I'm going to guess some engineers at Twitter with Github org permissions are having fun with the "release the algorithm" discussion.
I'm not sure why I'd want or need one. Socializing with (often hostile) strangers has always been the worst part of social media to me, and Twitter is almost exclusively that.
Create a repo for sharing the algorithm!
Literally the first sentence of the article:

> Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter highlights the risks to human rights and personal safety when any single person has complete control over policies affecting almost 400 million users.

Doesn't this apply to Bezos and WP?

You could argue WP doesn't have the same reach in terms of raw numbers which is fair but I'd argue both their audiences have a lot of power and the overall point made by EFF applies in both cases.
Nope. Structured light is projecting a geometric pattern into the scene and viewing it from from a camera that's offset by some amount vs. the projector. The original Kinect works this way.
(a) Require login

(b) Present each person with the fake reality that is least likely to offend them
Will somebody really join Twitter for that, though?

I guess I don't see how that increases the attractiveness of the service to someone on HN. Anyone knowledgeable enough to be here presumably has been able to seek out those discussions elsewhere. Is the idea that one can soon move from Gab to Twitter, or something?
Twitter is mostly an infrastructure operation imho, someone school me. It’s a scale-based problem space, how do you get all these tweets out in real time at minimum, and at best, how do you do some level of topic bucketing on top of it.
Take that, ChaosMonkey! This is King Kong
For the last few years, a similar thought has been bugging me. You mention the technology sector specifically, but I think your thought could be applied to almost anything.

Waking hours in the day, mental stamina, physical stamina, life span, external resources (food, shelter, etc.). All of these things are finite, and they are all required by humans.

Most businesses cater towards growth or profit to be more specific. This desire does not have any upper bounds.

If the desire for profit exceeds the ability of the current local population, what happens? It seems natural that everything will implode at some point. For the time being everyone puts their heads in the sand and hope that future tech will improve efficiency.
Yes there is an algorithm. It may not be concise, it may not be found in one place, and nobody alive may be able to explain it to you, but the existence of timelines that are ordered certainly implies the existence of 'the algorithm' that is used to order timelines.

I mean even if timelines were totally random, or based on some external facts, there is an algorithm that is being used to order them.

This isn't just an academic distinction. Claiming 'there is no algorithm' because the algorithm is intentionally or unintentionally obfuscated or complicated has implications if that claim of 'no algorithm' is accepted. If my algorithm for approving mortgage applications is explicitly racist, I can just spread it's functionality across myriad services owned by lots of teams, make it almost impossible to figure out how it works, and then avoid any responsibility by saying 'there is no algorithm to decide loan approvals'? That would be bullshit!
That there are!

As a quasi-related aside, at a startup I worked on a DARPA contract where the Marines were the theoretical end customer (FANG / Adaptive Vehicle Make). There are few cooler people in the world to chew the fat with than Marine warrant officers. YATYAS!
You forgot the gigantic amount of human intervention required to unperson people who tweet against Twitter‘s political interests
What are you basing this on? I wouldn't assume response prediction is using a "fairly basic ML model," it can be a lot more than that.
They should all be looking for choice B companies. I suspect there will be a mass firing/exodus for anything involving security or feed algorithm teams.
Isn't truth.social completely stillborn? Last time I checked the only post from Trump on it was a "Hi, I'm on here!" post.
Doxxing is not generally illegal, though the way wealth plays into the legal system makes it impractical for a non-rich defendant to assert that against Musk.

You can't be for vigorous suppression publication of factual information about yourself that you dislike being known and radically pro-free-speech. They are opposed views on right and wrong.
Neither would make him a Trump supporter.
This is probably using the stuff Intel was putting in its Optane non-volatile RAM.

Downside is, turning it off and back on again doesn't fix anything.
The key change was that funding is now secured; the initial bid was contingent on securing funding.
There are probably some secret celebration.
Ugh, php...
Why not just stick to that part, then?
The Twitter board has unanimously approved Musk's purchase, pending approval by stockholders, and Musk has stated that once he owns the company they will open source the "algorithms" for transparency.

So not a troll, but yes it is odd to put up an empty repo, and announce the repo before there is anything in it.
whatever will show up in this repo, I hope people realize that depending on what data you put into some algorithm you can get whatever output you want, and twitter is never going to (and neither can or should they) publish everyone's personal information and interaction on the site.

So I'm not sure what the ultimate point of this exercise is other than producing faux-transparency.
He is basically Thiel with even more "fuck you" money, and now he owns a huge megaphone that approaches the size of his ego.
I’d rather that housing didn’t cost a death pledge for 30 years of labor — like say every other time in human history pre-1980s.

I get that they provide you a house, me too, however if they didn’t exist housing wouldn't be a problem. It’s the best of a bad situation. At best a landlord that treats you well is the abnormality — they are still scum who deprives everyone else from ever owning a place.
Please see my reply to a sibling comment w.r.t. newspapers
Still, it's probably the best study of its kind ever performed.

Will be interesting to see if there are differences for other demographics as they continue to expand the scope of the subjects. But will need to wait decades for those results.