skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> but strictly from a business point of view, buying Twitter for the purpose of profiteering was a bad one, but at his level, money has become irrelevant, its more about control here.

Agreed. Bezos, Gates, Musk, etc don't buy media companies for money. They buy it for influence, propaganda, etc.

> Having said that I do question how far he would be able to take the free speech thing as a private company.

I like Musk and generally support things he is trying to do. But I'm not holding my breath. No way he allows twitter to be a free speech platform. Nobody spends $44 billion to allow others to have their say. Nobody spends $44 billion for other people's benefit. Maybe he'll make some symbolic gesture like letting trump back on the platform, but I'm guessing twitter will be his personal megaphone to push his products mostly.

Or maybe this is a watershed moment and elon's purchase of twitter is the start of a shift back to what the internet/social media used to be.
>But my timeline would definitely be improved without "speech" like that.

So you think the original comment is ban worthy? Or that any speech that "would definitely improve" your personal timeline should be banned?

If you're going to say no, then what exactly do you think is going to change with regards to Twitter? Is it because you think that comment would be banned today?
It’s lazy shorthand for “belatedly apply their policies against hate speech to prominent politicians”.
Is that actually possible on Twitter? (I have an account but don't use it.) I do believe them that when a user follows several 100+ other users, it would probably be impossible to read every tweet chronologically.
You’re wrong, I’m genuinely curious, and like many here fascinated by experimental and generative arts. You may be lashing out at the very people most likely to agree with your point of view. Sorry to hear that you’re unable to engage.
Not really. Unless you propose that he completely stops doing business with everyone, shuts down spacex and Tesla etc, not sure what’s your point.
SA, a major energy country, having a stake in Tesla is a pretty remote thing as compared to their prince having a stake in a speech platform.
Is the idea somewhere in the-algorithm there's a function called `derankGOPMembers()`?

Twitter's been pretty transparent in how it "deranks" certain accounts [1]. What more would come from opening the code that certainly not include the actual database of "no no terms" (if you were to believe that exists)?

[1] https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2022/our-ongoi...
No matter how careful you are, you will eventually still end up following some new media like New York Times or CNN or Fox News or US president or some celebrity. And then it's only a slippery slop because for many stories, there are two sides and you will identify with one of them. I did not become regular Twitter user until I meticulously cleaned up who I follow. I removed every single news media, every political personality including US president and every non-technical celebrity. Now I only follow ML/Ai researchers and scientists and my feed couldn't be better. However, Twitter still recommands me to follow celebrity or new media once in a while and I have to carefully ignore that.
I work in theoretical machine learning and what I don't like about this piece is how casually the author assumes that what goes us to the present state (hacky approaches where you converge to something "good enough", unless the model is very simple, e.g. a feedforward net---and even here there are still open questions---and you have some theoretical guarantee) will also get us to "AGI".

I believe that is unlikely. Here's metaphor for that, that I often like to use when I speak to engineers doing empirical ML work: In ancient times people build a lot of nice structures, such as pyramids, cathedrals etc. By trial and error many rules of thumb were devised and they more or less worked. But it's safe to say things like earthquake-resistant skyscrapes and modern bridge cannot be build without deep theoretical insights into structural mechanics. These are highly optimized, intricate structures. The same is probably necessary to build highly optimized, intricate models that deliver what we now consider to be "AGI" - but then again, the world of ML is full of surprises.
>since the machine can parse the text faster than you

You had me up until there; the machine doesn't know jack about text. It knows arrays and sequences of numbers according to the rules we've defined them by, for it.

Yuo cna reda tihs raedliy btu teh copmtuer cna't. Your brain is trained by billions of years of evolution for symbolic parsing and pattern pairing, and language is just one flex of that muscle.

Where computers thrive is where we've done the hard work to break down the syllabic system that is inherent to our biology into mathematical abstractions that can be computed by addition. Computers are great at solving problems we've already done, and repeating the steps, nothing more.

Our machines are beautiful, well designed levers. But they don't move anything, they leverage our movement.
Understood and several of us have dealt with large complex systems.

Open sourcing algorithm or code is not about everyone go and analyze the same, instead when controversy or issues arise it'll be readily available for independent experts to review it.
I'm sure you can come up with more phones and ists, it's like you're not even trying.

Of those you listed, only terrorism should be removed by law in the U.S. while the others are all things you, the reader, attribute to others and ascribe intent behind. You cannot prove intent, no matter how many mental gymnastics you perform. And then even if somebody expressly admitted to intent for those topics, they're not illegal. I don't care if you want them to be, they aren't. Get over it.
I.e., you did not read what I wrote, and just made shit up, instead. Goodbye.
Fafi: A Gemini browser built with Racket (Lisp family)
I really strongly disagree with you. Before facebook mail was prevalent and yet it was impossible to keep in touch with people or to find lost friends. When facebook came about it was a godsend, and suddenly it made sense that a monopoly on social graph was the missing piece all along. You might not like facebook for some of the decisions they took, or what you read in the media, but it is still insanely useful to a lot of people however mad you are about it.
I just spent the better part of an hour trawling through issues in the CRA, Webpack, and Axios github issues pages, pertaining to the webpack4 -> webpack5 (10/10/2020) release.

I do not believe there is willpower for institutional changes to the javascript ecosystem that exists on timelines of less then 5 years.
So when using rust-analyzer with Emacs, I've noticed that it lists code transformation suggestions based on where your cursor is, and you can optionally choose to apply those.

That seems to be generic, e.g., rust-analyzer provides the suggestions, and lsp-mode is just listing them. Though I don't know that for sure.
That'll only be a problem if you're up against significant number of candidates that have both experience and a PhD. HR will certainly filter resumes based on something as clear-cut as a degree when they can. But they can't just filter everything out and tell the hiring manager he's SOL. So you don't have to check all the boxes as long as you check enough of them, and you're competitive with the other candidates.

At the same time, nobody is going to do all that well if they just apply online and cross their fingers. You need some kind of human contact, either though an introduction to an insider through your network, or through a recruiter of some kind. It takes a bit of time to develop the relationships, but it's quite doable and worth it, even for introverts. Best to start before you're interested in changing jobs.
Maybe it's a room full of lava lamps.
There's a short list of people who can start a rocket company and want to: Bezos, Branson and Musk. I think it is fair to say that starting a rocket company is hard. The small sample size of people trying doesn't really let us learn anything from the success or failures.
The openness for the algorithm is to make public how the algorithm works internally. It has nothing to do with how "novel" or "good" or "bad" the algorithm is. It is just a way to check if there is anything fishy going on in there. I don't see what the fuss is about if it only makes the defacto town square of the internet more transparent and open.
Dude is probably trying to get Musk on the phone right now.
If the client is a Corporation that might be totally appropriate. If that lawyer then goes on to say how expensive his Latte has gotten then you might have an argument.
every time I read this kind of comment I just imagine someone who never left their hometown and doesn't have a lot of friends.
Clojure – Comparators
Just...show you can really do enough without much collaboration and you'll get hired anyway?
lol It was all about smearing Musk, in the end, not solving anything. So the problem is not urgent enough apparently that the UN can get the $6 billion from somewhere else or pay for it themselves
Unless I'm misunderstanding the mechanism (jumping to a label, right?), I thought most (well, lots of) languages supported this. Go does also:

A non-minimal example using continue (but you can also break): https://go.dev/play/p/mEyEqcEYvcK

The spec: https://go.dev/ref/spec#Labeled_statements

It's just goto..? And despite "considered harmful", lots of languages have goto.

There are some things for which goto (or labeled break/continue) really are the best way to do what you need.

(I can't shake the feeling I'm missing something really obvious here!)
Looking Glass Proxy: Looking Glass (VM in a Window) over the Network
And then, one day, single-system-image will be back in fashion and processes will migrate across the cluster - like in the good old days of Openmosix, but maybe with Kubernetes-like robustness...
wow :) thank you for defining who is my friends
It wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't be the first joke about him and his buyout.

https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1511456430024364037
>Why does it always seem like the people who are on the “margin of culpability” always minorities?

Because that is the only time it makes the news. It sort of follows with Coulter's Law which states roughly that if the race of a suspect isn't initially mentioned, they are non-white.

>There are plenty of statistics showing minorities are stopped at a higher rate, convicted more harshly, face higher bail, etc for the same crime when you control for everything else.

I actually used to assume this to be true. However, when you factor for income level of suspects, the variance disappears. This is probably why you almost never see black millionaires in prison. Even with Bill Cosby it took hundreds of allegations across over 40 years before he did time. Because he had money.
No, the repository is a joke (IME). Regarding the EU, the details haven’t even been nailed down yet, and the timeline is that it will only become a requirement in 2024 I believe. The goal also isn’t to publish “the algorithm”, but to give researchers and civil society representatives access to the training data and information about the most important factors controlling the algorithm, so they can make assessments on the basis of that. It is not about open-sourcing code.
I wonder what the numbers look like for the Olympics.
They should have stuck to the dvd by mail model. There were so many good movies to watch back then. Lots of content doesn’t matter if it’s crappy content. I bought an antenna last year and been amazed at how much better the content is, even old shows like mash and all in the family. Tv shows that shaped our culture, but changed it for the better!
> The full quote is “ elusive path of maintaining free speech, following the law and not having Twitter being a toxic cesspool used mainly to shout down those not our your "side".”

Frankly, I didn't think the rest of your quote added anything meaningful to the first part. Rather than being rude I was just going to leave that out and hope you picked up on it.

My reasoning was as follows: Twitter is already forced to follow US laws where the legal system is willing to enforce them, and "toxic cesspool" is highly subjective. When it comes to handling the mob mentality, I've already offered my thoughts and suggestions in my previous comment.

>Just adding more filters does nothing to build the open public square that Musk seems to want to curate.

So, which is it then? Is it a public platform, or a publisher curating content? Either way, Twitter couldn't exist without the taxpayer footing the bill for ARPANET, which is why I think they should be forced to allow all legal speech on their platform.

>More filters & blocks just creates smaller echo chambers.

Explain why it's bad for "echo chambers" to exist. Why shouldn't people be allowed to mind their own business and tend to their own spaces? I do this daily by choosing to not use 90% of the modern web.
In that case, the definition of “the algorithm” is the training set.
Ok, good to know. Too bad that I needed a phone 10 months ago.

Update: reading through https://www.reddit.com/r/pinephone/comments/u6zzyc/how_pinep... (from 6 days ago) it seems like you are not just overselling hard, you are trying to convince people to switch to something that is absolutely not ready for general consumption.

You do realize that if your goal is to get more people to adopt FOSS, your approach is more harmful than beneficial? Don't make promises that you can not keep, it will burn whatever goodwill people might have and it ends up convincing them Linux is never going to be for them.
It's funny how people keep moving the goal post :) read more about it instead of spending 5min on a page and finding negative things to say about it. If you want to hate on the technology for the sake of hating it then you won't go far in life
As someone who’s also worked in this area, I disagree with this take.

There is typically clear objective function of a recommendation system.

What Twitter is optimizing for is what’s of interest here. And some of the hidden business rules. It’s likely these are specified in the code in an obvious way.

How exactly they achieve that is the part that is complex and relatively indecipherable.

It’s possible that it’s designed in such a way the optimization objectives are also unclear, but that would indicate a bad design and be to the detriment of the company and users.
I still think there could be lots of interest, even without the data. In fact some of the most interesting parts would be the algorithm in the broadest sense — how tech interacts with company policy and SOP. For one small example, what aspects of moderation/banning happen automatically without any further human intervention?
Did you just tell me to go write a map/reduce function in Erlang?
Yeah, this makes no sense. There is no golden algorithm that Facebook, Tiktok or Twitter has figured out.

All these feed rankings are complex combinations of features, models coupled with weights and filters. On top of this abuse detection layers are added.

Unless Musk is planning to open source user data to show what all the "scores" and "features" for all the entities are and how they were reached to, this will make no sense. The whole argument against some people being downranked has been, why me? Just writing a whitepaper to tell the general methodology, is not going to make that go away.

On top of that, exposing every vector through which you measure and stop abuse, will just allow for more sophisticated abuse.
Or maybe you're misinformed about his free speech claims.

He clearly stated that free speech applied to Twitter means that in the case of a grey zone, it's preferential not to censor. Which is not the same as an absolute take on free speech. People are running with a claim that was never made.

As for doxxing, I find it disturbing how a technicality is used to defend information that is clearly threatening. Recently, in the Netherlands extremists have been digging up the addresses of some politicians they dislike and publishing them on Twitter. It destroys their lives and basic sense of safety.

Technically, the addresses were public. Do you really see that as a sane justification to collect said data, actively publish it to an extreme audience with the very obvious intent of intimidation, and directly increase the odds of just one nutjob to do untold damage? It's fine because the data was "public"?
Think of all the awesome stuff he could have done for humankind with that kind of money.

But nooooo, he wastes it all on a that dungpool of a website
These tailwind component libraries make little sense if you compare them directly to bootstrap without wanting to work with tailwind.

Tailwind is in every way superior when you are implementing a bespoke design, you develop faster, your CSS is small and less complex, the output is performant, you have a uniform mini-language, if you apply some up front analysis of a design/-system you can generate 90% of your CSS from a normalized configuration.

Now compare that to fighting default styles and complected component styles, applying overrides, extending via SCSS variables and generating your own CSS utilities with SCSS. It's pretty night and day for this use-case.

Component libs for tailwind that compress the classes are a bit funny and IMO you don't get much benefit from them other than playing nice with tailwind. You might have a reason to use tailwind but want predefined component classes? But then you get the same disadvantage that component based libraries like bootstrap have, so the choice is arbitrary here.

What makes _much_ more sense is what tailwindui does, they give you the raw source, so you get to write out of the box components quickly but can pull them apart without friction.
Next.js creates a good setup to create a React frontend application with server side rendering support out of the box. Pair that with Vercel and you get an amazing deployment environment with CDN, cloud functions, edge functions (middleware) server side rendering and more without much hassle.

Tailwind let me quickly create any UI I want, and Daisy helps me reduce the amount of time needed to style basic elements like inputs and all.

Firebase lets me get a low latency real time data source for my application, that can scale infinitely. It also handles some other parts of building an application that normally take a lot of time: authentication, storage management etc. And the pricing is really really cheap once you consider how much it costs to create an infrastructure that scales as well as firebase does, unless you model your data wrong and end up using a lot of db read/write cycles unnecessarily.

The backend API piece is not missing, you can use either Next.js API or firebase functions for backend piece, I use those for things like stripe billing backend etc.

This stack is enough for most projects out there, and when its not enough its flexible enough that you can integrate it with other things. And that timeline I mentioned was for a production ready MVP.
Extremely brave.
I work in basically this field. Tweets have text and often images and users with relationships with other users posting and liking them, the potential feature space was never going to be low dimensional.
To be perfectly honest, I hope that happens. Even better is if they leave.
It's closed source on the server side, proprietary, and has various issues. I was pretty shocked when they forced it into a LTS release, and the implementation was not optional and was terrible. They handles upgrades poorly, polluted the mount space, required manually cleanup, and destroyed boottimes.

If you want containers, why would you go with a proprietary canonical technology instead of one of the better open source solutions? After all isn't one of the main promises of containers increased compatibility?

Even the ubuntu derivatives are switching away from snap.
No one is trying to “turn your kids gay”. But it’s clearly factual that some people prefer their mates to be of the same sex and I don’t see any reason to try to shelter kids from that.
Why do all your comments read like they're straight out of a training manual for how to be disingenuous in debate and activism to get your way?
This, personally I was thinking in light of the new upcomming sale, the current Twitter staff might decide to 'open source' some algorithm. Which would be an effective method of protest against a sale like that.

But there definitely is a relationship algo that could be considered theirs, like all social medias inflating the bubbles users all feel.
Was it the algorithm or was it a "guy in a room" which/who decided to block New York Post's article on Hunter Biden's laptop scandal?
I was writing a (less informed!) sibling comment at the same time.

Great observation that I hadn't considered: what I called a "labeled break" or "continue" is safer than bare goto since you can't jump from anywhere to anywhere.

Thanks for making that plain!
Impossible to read, maybe. Impossible to display, definitely not.
Twitter is a private company and can do what it wants

I remember the absolute smugness of people who trotted out that line when it suited their politics
Because, at least in its current form, it becomes inevitable that the ugly stuff leaks in.
> The idea that second graders have "open" sexual identities should be absolutely horrifying

So you find it horrifying if a young male openly identifies as a boy, and a young female openly identifies as a girl?
I am sure those with in the money options are happy
Elon Musk is a personality that gets full credit for all successes he participates in and receives little criticism for the things he fails at. Like the time he pledged $6B to the EU to solve world hunger but then fell off the face of the Earth when it came time to collect.

Please look into the history of his companies, Musk is first and foremost a financier who among other things purchases the "Founder" title when buying companies.
Or current US administration (whoever it is) forces to him to do X. Nice big space company you have there... be a shame if you were lose government contracts and face severe delays in getting permits...
That's pretty cool! Can it be turned into a screensaver?
I am not - and I hope no one seriously is - talking about stopping or curtailing speech for everyone.

Trump & members of Congress's actions are not "opinion: disputable, open to discussion." Clear facts that actually happened.

The election was free and fair. Fact.

There was minuscule fraud which did not affect outcomes, even on the smallest level. Plus a decent chunk of the worst offenders were Republicans including the COS who actively engaged in this sedition. Fact.

Congress was violently attacked. Fact.

Trump & sworn Government Representatives tried to overturn the election, subvert democracy, and overthrow the Government. Fact.

That can not be supported and is a clear exception to free speech that is grossly & intentionally harmful.
Exactly. Couldn't have said it better. :)
Interesting that the article mentions the downsides of LFP versus NMC or NCA, but does not mention the very strong upsides: much greater safety and much longer cycle life (therefore vehicle life).
For a company of Twitter's scale and resources, any public repos are supposed to go through legal to clear (this is how things work at every FAANG I've worked at).

So if it was a WIP, it'd be a private repo until it's ready to release publicly.
I don't think people threatening to leave are doing so out of a desire to exist in a more censored world, just one in which the censorship isn't controlled by Elon.