skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
"I write and read about the culture and habits of elites"

He actually writes about the culture and habits of rich kids. They're not elites in any practical sense. That word does not mean "inheritor." The sycophancy of the rich, the presumption that they should be expected to be somehow better than the hoi polloi, is really getting tedious.

Someone is elite because they've accomplished something, not because they've been handed something. Attempting to apply that word to the wallet is common, and remains incorrect and gross. Yes, I know the reader can very easily Google up examples. The reader should also be able to name cases where Googling up examples gives hilariously wrong information.

Rich kids have always been slackers, in every society in human history. The real change here is that we've stopped taxing them, so "shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in two generations" doesn't apply anymore.

Ayn Rand was wrong. Stop expecting wealth from parents to create high quality people.

Every study ever done on the matter has shown what common sense and literature have said all along: rich people are just lazy. It is almost certainly the clearer version "everyone who can be lazy is, but many cannot afford to be."

Hell, I would be.

We've forgotten that because we now believe that they're earning their mega-wealth by giving it to bankers to be grown for them. We pretend to ourselves that because they can pay people to produce profits from money they weren't involved in earning, they're somehow doing something. Then, we point out extremely rare individual counterexamples and say "see? See? Elon exists."

The idea that their "doing nothing" is a result of lack of social pressure is disastrously undermined by that they've also done nothing when there was social pressure, throughout all of history; even to the point that several royalties fell because nobody in the royalty could be bothered to stop looking at art and having sex long enough to keep the lights on.

We should want evidence of claims like this.

Even despite the education and resource gap, even scaled to the popular bin sizes, in all of history, the vast majority of invention and business success has come from the unwashed masses.

The null hypothesis supports this as entirely expected, unrelated to what society requests. No society in history has achieved otherwise.
I get that, and my reading of it was Elon didn't have everything covered legally and the SEC had leverage. He did the equivalent of pleading to a lesser charge vs. fighting it. If the SEC really had nothing, Elon with his army of lawyers, would have been happy to tell them to take a hike.

Like a lot of people in these situations, he may have thought he could beat this in court but due to circumstance (like Tesla's shaky financial situation at the time) accepted the deal to make it go away. That's still not blackmailing.
It's not a error until a) you show that's the case, and b) it's material to my point.

Honestly, I don't think people are "better" at that (if such a fuzzy construction can have a useful meaning). But I do think they are more careful with it because it's harder to get right and more easy to visibly get it wrong. It's fine with me if expecting more concreteness just drastically reduces the total amount of social commentary. Even if it dropped by 99%, we'd still have more than we needed.
I remember last time this came up a bunch of reefs were eaten by some kind of worm or parasite. I can't see now, does anyone know about this?
> Even after a couple of hours out of the water, Bågenholm’s core temperature was 56.7 degrees Farenheit

13.7 Celsius
Delete. Delete delete delete.

Did it a few years back, trust me you won't miss out on anything important. In fact, the opposite: important things will find a way to you regardless. It's the unimportant things that will filter out.
Also been seeing this more in the US. It's a welcome change, both for the environment, and a pump is easier to use than travel sized bottles.

I used to pack my own bottles with refillable Nalgene carry on ones, but now that there are the pumps, it reduces travel clutter a bit.
ADIEU

PORTS (or FORTY if ADIEU doesn't match anything)

I just want all the vowels.
I've been a musician since I learned to play the clarinet beginning in 4th grade, almost 57 years ago. During that time, I've learned to play the saxophone, guitar, and the piano. I learned how to read music from the very start and have been totally accustomed to the western notation. Is it the best? I have no idea. It's the only way I know. That said, anybody attempting to design a new, better, notation is facing long odds in it every being widely adopted, even if it can demonstrate some advantages. Trying to persuade the music community would be like trying to convince typists to use the Dvorak keyboard instead of the standard. Yes, some will adopt it and sing its praises but most will not want to relearn how to type.
The choice between refactoring and money-generating work is a false dilemma. There are other options, and the developer doesn't have to make that decision or carry out the work all on their own.
Not for nothing, with children there is often a greater “spirit not to give up.”
I'll admit/concede I may have inferred a stronger and more specific conclusion than the one the author actually meant to make.

"It's not that the elites are saying, "Start a family and stick with it," and therefor everyone else is acting out in protest; it's that the elites are not saying it."

I'm not sure what you mean here, though--like, my point is that elite rungs of society saying "Start a family and stick with it" is simply going to be irrelevant to a lot of the people the author is talking about. Would you disagree?

Like, operationally, what difference would it make? Would unemployed, lazy, drug-addled fathers unmarried to the mothers of their children get their act together if Obama had said they should more when he was POTUS? If professors at Stanford or Harvard or Brown started writing academic papers that touted this as correlated with success?

I think this is more than me just being sassy here; the author has, IMO, failed to articulate a nexus between the problematic behavior he is calling out and the on-the-ground results he laments.

The hints contained in the article about what he seems to think or imply a better situation would like just don't seem...realistic. E.g., the UN lady vocally and openly supporting stable family units and this making it into the final product of whatever they were doing--it just strikes me as nakedly preposterous that anything contained in a UN report would have a real impact on the individual behavior of anyone in America.

And I get that that's a very isolated example and that the aggregate effect of all those little interactions and omissions may be real, large, and worthy of serious attention. I just don't see the fundamental link between the phenomenon and the problems he is concerned with.

Again, I think the ultimate issue with the article is that the people he is talking about already aren't trying to strive by the criteria of whatever mixed-bag of societal values we do have. Middle-class and higher, people value education. In terms of children, they are having them later and later in life (outside of certain communities, usually religious, but sometimes ethnic/racial in general). People generally value work and they value taking care of their families. So the people in the article are already failing to take heed.

Indeed, most of us don't seem to need some distinct and clear societal emphasis on not having a kid out-of-wedlock at age 21 after having not tried to pursue either higher education or some stable trade/skill. If anything, I can't think of any group that doesn't stigmatize this. Even the groups he is referring to in the article don't need to be told that's not the proper way; it's just sadly somehow become normalized for them.
Even with these problems, people accept the dangers of cars every day. I'm sure most accidents are caused not by cars but by people, and the issues you point out are notable for their rarity. That's why they make big news.

Similar to how flying feels less safe than it is because a plane crash makes the news.

My point is, it can work, and the auto industry is a trivial example.
My understanding is that the poorest people are covered by medicare or get their fees waved (hospitals won't refuse to treat someone needing critical care). That is not "zero social net". Nobody is in fact jealous of the American healthcare system though. Meanwhile, in most countries in Europe, people live in fear of having to be put on wait lists that extend from months to years, or just plain being unable to access any care at all due to said systems being overloaded at times due to having much less overall slack (for example during covid).
I’ve recently got a loan (~35k) with the idea of using that money for marketing once I’ll be done with development. It kind of works the same way - I’ll either launch the product and pay it off early (paying just 3% of the amount in this case) or keep paying 9% interest rate for 6 years. An important difference is that this money can actually work for me, when I’ll launch the product which provides positive motivation for me.
I mistyped. I meant can get some of the symptoms. I was wrong to write menstruation. I know this isn’t the exact pr or topic but since the overall point is about how the lines are blurred more than “tradition”, intersex people can menstruate and some have almost or every biological female issue. Intersex people are not a part of “traditional” feminism.

To my bigger point I sent to the other commenter, the status quo and how things have historically been for issues like identity, gender, sexuality, end up not being looked upon favorably and first world societies have consistently albeit slowly progressed on them.

I realize I am committing some fallacies by not sticking to the exact comment/topic. However I saw you edited your comment from being aggressive to respectful/kind so I thought I’d go for it.
Ah, that makes sense. Thank you for the clarification!
> browsers have to support tons of backwards compatibility (quirks mode, TLS), terminals have less to support by being more circumspect

I think most terminal emulator developers would dispute this -- there's a lot of complex legacy behavior in TTY/PTY handling, in supporting various escape sequences, being behavior-compatible with dominant emulators like XTerm, etc. Most of it is also "esoteric" in a way that backwards compatibility on the web isn't, since very little is actually standardized (the only pieces I can think of are POSIX for some parts of the PTY layer and X3.64 for some terminal control sequences).
I've always found the B string hardest to tune by ear. Generally I need to fine tune it in the context of a few chords.
William Sethares published a mathematical model of consonance and dissonance of arbitrary sounds:

http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/paperspdf/consonance.pdf

Informal overview:

http://sethares.engr.wisc.edu/consemi.html

This is almost certainly an oversimplification (e.g. the listener's familiarity with the sounds also matters), but the results match my own perception of consonance and dissonance reasonably accurately. It doesn't address the question of "why", but intuitively it seems that dissonance is associated with sounds that take more mental effort to understand. If the partials line up closely then they are perceived as part of the same sound, and if they are spaced far apart then they are obviously different, but there's an awkward intermediate spacing that's uncertain (the "roughness" on the Plomp and Levelt curve). Dissonant sounds contain a lot of this uncertainty.
The founder was pushed out years ago so is that still relevant?

High yield savings has always been about attracting customers. SoFi just got their banking charter so they want to build up deposits. The rest of the HYS crowd is around 0.5% and pocketing the difference.
Moreover this doc makes it more apparent how much he waxes without real references: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20090007797/downloads/20...

> Routine calculations were made using slide rules. More complex
calculations, such as stress analysis, required Friden mechanical calculators.

Fascinating read. No the SR-71 didn't appear out of thin air in a sprint of intensity unheard of on earth to date. Turns out after the U-2 taught us so much we said let's make a higher, faster U-3 and then spent a decade on that concept in a series of designs and tests.

I really wish that this kind of cherry-picked mythos building fact wasn't what made half of what built the perception of good engineering to most of my present and future colleagues.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-iab-protocol-mai...

> The robustness principle, often phrased as "be conservative in what you send, and liberal in what you accept", has long guided the design and implementation of Internet protocols. The posture this statement advocates promotes interoperability in the short term, but can negatively affect the protocol ecosystem over time. For a protocol that is actively maintained, the robustness principle can, and should, be avoided.

(As an IAB draft they’ve called it protocol-maintenance, but I liked the original name Thomson gave it: postel-was-wrong.)
I'm really hoping Do Not Track becomes legally binding. (Also, how is it not already treated like a piece of a contract negotiation? It is machine readable and sent on every request. Hidden website EULA's are already treated like contracts.)
[My colleague] would appear to see time spent in planning and writing documents as essentially wasted time, since he asserts that without process we are faster. We are not faster in reality. We are merely faster to say we're finished. That is not the same thing as actually being finished: we can all think of examples of that. And the uncertainty induced by the unknown magnitude of correction required is, IMHO, the biggest contribution to our inefficiency and ineffectiveness.

I've spent my entire career working for a medium sized organization and in the past few years it has tried to become "agile". Most of this push is predicated on the idea that we will be able to go faster this way. As a result we have deconstructed ourselves. What's weird is that now we aren't actually even "faster to say we are finished." No, now we are only faster to say that we are going to be faster to be finished. We still end up taking a long time but as long as the slide deck says we are going to be done in a short amount of time, then all is believed to be running smoothly. It's very strange/depressing/unsettling.
As a middle-aged man who's been studying this stuff for a while, I'd like to throw in my observations.

We are in a Masculine Crisis, and both men and women are suffering, because gender isn't zero-sum, and a society that damages men is just as harmful to heterosexual women, who struggle to find men. Late-stage capitalism's breakdown of the family (which it molded into a bourgeois form, then let rot) happened in black communities about 40 years before it started to hit rural whites. This makes it hard to sympathize with the so-called "white working class", who clutched their pearls and moralized and showed no sympathy at all when this dysfunction was hitting blacks in Detroit, half a century ago.

What is a Masculine Crisis? Well, I think this sentence hits it straight on:

Some of the jobs he can get don’t pay enough to give him the self-respect he feels he needs, and others require him to get along with unpleasant customers and coworkers, and to maintain a submissive attitude toward the boss.

When you tell men that the only way to be masculine is to "provide", and then deprive them of all means to provide except to subject oneself to the whims of a high-status person--a person given that status not on merit but simple random accidents of heredity--you leave them without a decent choice at all. Not playing is no option (a man must "provide") but every play is a losing one (the requisite self-emasculation of subordination). Whether this is a condition of low expectations (society has given up on men) or high ones (as workplace pressures mount, due to the erosion of worker's rights and dignity) is irrelevant; either way, it shuts people down.

Of course, the experience is pretty awful for women, too. Work, for 95% of people in this society, is just horrid. No one should have to do stupid shit to survive--I hope we can agree on that. I just don't think this particular social ill is as gutting for women as it is for men.

When it comes to the Masculine Crisis, we on the left are really missing the opportunity. Ex falso quodlibet; principle of (possibly literal) explosion. When no options exist for someone, he tends to make one. I'm not an accelerationist of any kind (leftist or rightist) but acceleration is happening. Alas, the left is so deep in the cul-de-sac of gender being entirely socially constructed (which is not true) and therefore meaningless (which it's not) that they can't figure out how to operate in this environment. So, instead, the Masculine Crisis is left to be exploited by the center-right (Jordan Peterson) or worse, the actual fascists.

Conditions like this produce war. Why? Because five thousand years of human history have produced exactly one situation in which a man can be subordinate and still accept himself as a man--to pick up a weapon and join an army of some kind. Mind you, I don't want war; I'm staunchly against it except as a last resort. However, conditions like those in the modern workplace (except for those born into hereditary wealth) are at such a level as to throw young men into hopelessness... and they will often do anything for those who promise any kind of hope, no matter false.
Mathematician: "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime. The result follows by induction."

Physicist: "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 is experimental error..."

Engineer: "3 is prime, 5 is prime, 7 is prime, 9 is prime..."

(Yeah, that old joke.)
This fails to correct for how many fathers won't even ask for custody because there's such a low chance of getting it.

If it was the 19th century and I observed that most women who took the bar exam passed the bar exam, would that prove that men and women were on an equal footing?
We mean the same thing for sure. I agree.

I think even media has evolved to become less useful for meeting people. Of course because of the technology shift from simultaneous viewing/broadcast to on-demand.

Watching movies at the cinema -> you can/want to go with friends. Watching netflix -> you can't watch with anyone except a close partner, because everyone has their own progress point to continue from in whatever series they are watching.
Sure, but then we'll migrate somewhere else. "They'll be bad eventually" is by no means an argument in favor of instead using a service that is worse now.
Money. Linux allows the user to control their device - not great for companies that make megabucks selling telemetry.
When tuning by ear, if you are just minimizing the beating you hear...

I assume you are talking about fretless instruments. With a guitar you just play a unison using the frets and the thicker string.
> I don't see what is unreasonable about prodding [...]

Yes, I can see that you fail to acknowledge the unreasonability of your prodding. Time to change your tack, maybe voice an opinion of your own, on the actual article, and expose yourself to critique?

Maybe drop the condescending tone and try to avoid the cross-examination? It's against the rules on HN.

> I do not see what kind of comment we can have except the meta-commentary.

I can't help you with what you "don't see"; I cannot make you fix your blind spots. I've already told you your meta-commentary is unwanted. I do not welcome it, it's unhelpful, and every single assumption you've made has been wrong (and smug) so far. It's not my job to present my case to you, you're not doing a consultancy here, nor do you demonstrate particular expertise on the subject.

I foresee another pointless reply of your own. I'll let you have the last word.

Bye.
This is amazing stuff really. As a designer, there’s a lot to be said for the clarity of text-only UIs.
Yes that is true. However hating someone and then liking multiple facets of them to this degree is what doesn’t seem like it squares up. Unless it’s more of a hating Twitter and social media so much that Elon is better than that.

You are absolutely right my logic was..well illogical :)
related: https://archive.ph/20120805125333/http://www.mythinglinks.or...
I'm not saying it's better. I'm saying it's a significant contributing factor to the increased percentage of unmarried mothers.
The high cost difference part is remarkable but the “she’ll never pay it back” part seems to me like observing a mega millions lottery winner will never pay back the prize money with future ticket purchases. Isn’t that the whole point of the lottery or health insurance? Getting a benefit that society as a whole can afford but no reasonable individual can.
It seems like a bit of a nothing-burger considering how low OECD birth rates are. More men than ever are simply not having kids. So if the objective is to create a stable foundation for the next generation -- and there is none -- mission accomplished. I have no purpose. It's the same conclusion, though a different path towards it.
How do you know there isn't a shithead at the soap factory?
Never thought of liquid soap as being less cleaning due to soap scum. Interesting. I used Dr Bronners Peppermint for scalp-to-toes cleansing for nearly a decade, but switched to bar soap around the start of the pandemic when I moved to somewhere where it wasn't easy to get (either in store, or stuff shipped to the house, pretty remote, snowy location without delivery access during the winter months).

I now live in a much more urban area, but am trying to reduce unnecessary plastic consumption - not to the extent of being "trash-free", but instead in the sense of trying to support alternatives, so that it becomes more standard/easy to access. There are stores with bulk dispensers of a variety of cleaning products near me. I may consider switching back for my home shower usage.
I parsed through the Library of Congress digital records to find an out-of-copyright subset, and developed a search engine that is unique in that it is technologically impossible for me to track searches, as the index loads in the page. It has about a million entries.

https://www.locserendipity.com/
No, most people should delete their accounts and go cold turkey. In time, they will begin to see that they never needed it, that human relationships necessarily require reaching out (aka work), and that social media was merely empty calories all along.
Mariko Yugeta and the Motivating Power of Regret