skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I agree it might be an okay starting point, but it should not taken literally.

It's a really hard sell. People really rely on the comfort of their formulas and being able to debug it. Even if they have no idea about the formulas, they need them there. And you're essentially fighting a losing battle as 95% of things you would want to do are easily extendable on a spreadsheet compared to a web app. Want to change the name and color of something? Congrats, you're building a no-code app. Create a chart? Now you're a charting app. Rename something? New formula? Slight variation to some formula? Do you want to upend your entire workflow on some startup you just heard about? It's a losing battle.

The one exception is spreadsheets that do heavy calculation, and even then its not a clear win. If you have a 5 mb workbook that crunches a bunch of numbers, in which you have to create all this intermediate data to recreate what is essentially a for single for loop in code.

The truth is spreadsheets are perfectly acceptable for many applications. They're a database mixed in with a logic engine. There's big issues around version control and there are companies trying to solve that like xltrail. But in general I think losing game
I wonder about the feasibility of this.

How does an algorithm "that attempts to prioritize nuanced conversations about important topics" work? (Or "to find mind-expanding threads", for "savage dunks" or "thirst traps of hot new snax"? -- other examples from the post.)

I suppose you spend some time with existing tweets and ML and develop a model that can produce a score of some sort on these concepts for a tweet, and then run every tweet through the model and present the high-scoring ones. Of course, you can't just look at individual tweet, which in isolation don't mean much, but also at how it fits into a conversation. (For that matter, I'd be interested to see what a model of a conversation is.)

Sounds expensive and quite possibly not accurate enough to be worthwhile.

It also seems like a major strategic decision to give third parties every tweet by everyone. It seems like the business changes from being what twitter is now to a message routing backend, and these third parties become what twitter used to be. That's a fundamental shift, that probably devalues the company by an order of magnitude, since they would be dissolving the valuable thing they have -- the social network they have.

Just doesn't make any sense to me.
Source for probably the most contentious piece of moderation Twitter has ever done being manual was their own statement:

“After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of further incitement of violence,”
Yes it'd be a cat and mouse game and that's how you build an efficient and fair algorithm. Not too unlike how the market decides what the price should be for a certain instrument. Lots of buys, lots of sells and where they meet is called the price. All in the open for anyone to see.

Let's stop the Communistic mentality around keeping things hidden. Please read about Soviet Russia, about Siberia and how Russians had no idea about the miseries inflected on them for decades.
Why outsource your auth system? (2021)
Yes, so much this. And one of your links mentions 1998s movie "The Wedding Singer" with Adam Sandler, a soundtrack full of 80s-hits and a very old Billy Idol in a guest role at the end. This was about the start of the 80s-nostalgia that never really faded until this day.

I think something is very off about nostalgia these days and my best guess is that digital networks alter the way our collective memory works.
9/11 disrupted the normal flow of trends IMHO.
This take is garbage imo. Coming from someone who first used jquery deferred, then native promises and now async await. If you are too inexperienced to use await properly no reason to think callback hell is going to make it better
The interesting question this poses and has come up on a few comment threada here is

Is "security through on obscurity" necessary for automated content moderation?

Would an open algorithm be trigially gamed by spammers as they can now test offline exactly how their posts will be ranked/promoted?

My gut says yes but I'm not an expert in this area. Curious if anyone has a theory or idea on if an open moderation algorithm could work.

SpamAssassin exists and is open to moderate success. But is that just because it's use is not widespread enough to bother to test your spam mails against it?

If every email account in the world was covered by SpamAssassin, what would spam look like, and how much would make it through.
Oh, I calculated 4002 for my PhD, and I will just load an image from memory.
Threads are their own steep learning curve, I think it's just hard to do two things at once.
Yeah!! Do it! Steam Proton is great and gets better every few months. Ditch the proprietary windows and never look back!
> This kind of condescension towards religion is so close-minded, and it's incredibly tiring.

I live in the US, God Bless America, where religion is shoved in your face over and over again from childhood to adulthood (it’s incredibly tiring).

I’m intimately aware of the philosophies and mental capabilities of “the faithful”. Religion has earned every ounce of condescension that it receives.

> The lazy, unintellectual thing to do is to base all your understanding of reality only on what science can describe, and to never explore beyond what can be proven as a "fact."

Science is exploration. Religion is not.
Even artists themselves don't use that definition - and they debate "what is art" a lot. It is highly ideological and emotional definition and relies on mythology.
The problem with talking about N-year cycles is that every decade or other period is an amalgam of various styles/culture/films/tech/etc. that are more or less relevant to different age groups and subcultures. I'm guessing you can pick and choose to support just about any theory although is probably is generational to a certain degree.
It’s not just that. It’s using volume and supply chain strength to be able to write blank checks to the engineers. “What could you design if we could monopolize TSMC’s leading edge process/build aluminum parts for half the price/could make our own sapphire coated glass?”
> You’ve probably had this experience: you spend some time on the whiteboard mapping out your marketing funnel and growth loops, and you’re really fired up ready to grow your business, but then the ultimate question hits you like a sledgehammer: “How are we going to track this?”.

No, I have not.

One wonders how Sony in the 1950's (as an example) "tracked".
Why do you need to trust any of them?
Thanks, that's a solid summary.

Feels like an environment that moves so quickly (to someone like me anyway). Can barely keep up.
I still miss Adobe Fireworks. Easy and enough features to get the job done quickly.
> He may have started with less than the median American when he emigrated

Except it is known that he didn’t. There is no need to speculate on the facts.

Elon Musk is far more successful than anyone else who started with his financial resources. He has outperformed everyone in his wealth bracket. There’s no need to pretend he was abandoned by his family and came to the US destitute.
I could easily do this job. It's not hard, it merely requires not being a coward.

But my rate is quite high.
Aging followers are as much followers as young ones. It is not lesser to create for older people and stuff that appeals to them. Just like with art for any other minority.
Ask HN: Developers, what do you miss in dev docs?
Yes, this is what people legitimately think the recommendation system is like. It’s insane
Because of Trump. He figured out how to use social media to his advantage.

Before for that, other “movements” that had bridged the gap between real and online worlds were celebrated.

Arab Spring circa 2012, is a particular good example.
Animal learning is unsupervised, sure, but with no domain goal and no relevant dataset.
Yes this unfortunate lie will be crowed from the rooftops that Musk is just manipulating the market when he in fact has zero history of actually caring about making money on the stock market.
If things go any worse in Shanghai that might be a more realistic demotivator
Sure but my use cases would be stuff I'd normally write in TypeScript or Python that already have garbage collection. Like I said I'm not doing embedded programming so I don't have too much of a need to manage memory.

My question could be further constrained then to be, is learning Rust or Zig despite its manual memory management worth it for applications that are normally already garbage collected in their current implementations? Or are languages like Nim and Crystal enough? Does Rust and Zig have other benefits despite manual memory management?
Musk has never done a pump and dump, so I'm not sure where you get the idea of it being a "favorite pasttime".
The technical feasibility of carpet bombing or artillery reloading is not really the point. The Russians by most accounts have the ability to level cities if they wanted to, and many people arguing that they are unreconstructed barbarians point to what they did in Grozny as an example. So the question is why aren't they doing that in Kharkov or Chernigov?
In my world, people either use LaTeX or PowerPoint for making posters. I know it's unfair to suggest that the LaTeX ones are better de facto, but honestly, they are -- it's a pretty big signal that there will be more mathematical content and as a medical physicist, I really enjoy being able to scan things quickly.
This is a terrible comparison. With OSS people are looking for security flaws. With a twitter/google algorithm people are trying to exploit the system when it works as intended. If there is a secret formula for a successful tweet, people will find it and repeat that behavior ad nauseum.

The problem with google search isn't that people are exploiting 0-days that the developers aren't aware of. The problem is that the majority of the internet is becoming nearly identical pages that do the bare minimum to get ranked by search engines. Making the algorithm public will only exacerbate that
But isn’t that the point of a market? Some people have goods they don’t want, other people want those goods. So they buy and sell.

Every time a stock trades, there’s a single price. And that price is the price one person is willing to sell at, and another is willing to buy at.

That’s how markets work.
This stuff used to be printed out once and distributed on paper so getting it right was important. Now you can go back and change anything at any time and even the people who originally saw the error might find themselves with self-doubt, so it's hard to justify the expense of thorough and careful editing.
Mystery sarcophagus found in Notre-Dame to be opened
Thanks for all the context. Curious to know more about the concept/design of the DAW.
That's barely enough for attitude control, do you have numbers how that could be used to despin a large rotating mass, as it is exiting the launcher?
Crypto Payments Frozen Across India, Hitting Trading
Next project, Self-calibrating USB Paper Tape Writer.
If you need hundreds of engineers to solve a related set of business problems[1], I wager you've done something wrong.

[1] and if these problems are unrelated (think Uber's human driver app vs self driving), then why are candidates passing through the same committee?
If not entirely free, certainly a non-exclusive commercial licensing model with low fees makes more sense. This was how the system worked before Bayh-Dole Act was passed in the 1980s (one result was that corporations wanting to do strictly proprietary research were then incentivized to finance large private research institutions like Bell Labs).
SBCL is a pretty good CL implementation, though
How are they deceptive? I don't know where the idea that these keywords somehow mimic synchronous code comes from.
As an example, the bits of Google's original algorithms that they did talk about (pagerank using reputation of in-links to propagate to a page) publicly began getting gamed into irrelevance fairly early on (link-for-link schemes being the start of the SEO industry). After that it's been a continuing struggle of a whole industry looking for weaknesses and Google adapting.

Another way of thinking about it, is that if someone could see what features were most important for the ranking on some site, then they could start to optimize for those, breaking the usefulness of that feature. One obvious example of this is "Please remember to like, comment, and subscribe" on YouTube.
The twitter algo shouldn't be complicated. For the most part twitter shows me posts and likes from people I follow, occasionally sprinkling in a topic I follow, like viral tweets.

I want to read stuff from people I follow in more or less chronological order. Sure if something has a 1k likes and was posted a few hours ago and I hadn't seen it, show me that. There are simple formulas for time based rank that are out there.

But I regularly see twitter suppressing posts from people I follow. I won't see someone tweet for a few weeks and I check their account and I see they've been tweeting this whole time. It's wrong and annoying to me as a user.
Say I offer to buy Apple for a penny/share. The price for their shares won’t move because of my offer but may move from normal market conditions. If the shares increased a dollar the day after my offer, would you say there’s a greater than 100% chance of my offer being accepted?
It is, because misinformation goes both ways. Twitter makes it really, really easy for lies or misrepresentations of reality to get popular, even more so when "verified users" themselves may be spreading falsities. This seems a pretty clear case of it, when thinking about it, due to both Starlink being.. invulnerable to all current ASAT weapons due to its characteristics, and the inauthenticity of that (non-government) website, created on the 22th of March. Regardless, I doubt the statements from the author will be retracted.
U1-MA
>Conspiracy theorists aren't real.

There are some real nut cases out there, like the whole "Q" thing. But I think that the true believers and the most fervently vocal ones are a fairly small minority and the rest look at it the same way as Santa and the Easter bunny.
What makes in your opinion the request naive? Too complex to open source or for people to analyze and criticize? I see some people becoming Twitter algorithm experts as we also have Linux kernel developers
Show HN: Golang FFmpeg wrapper for simple Video I/O and Webcam Streaming
> Are you regularly finding bugs in the runtime and in the core libraries?

When I did work in Clojure/Script, I would regularly find bugs I couldn’t understand without stepping through core libraries and the runtime to understand them. Often they were my own bugs, sometimes bugs or just non ideal behavior. Hiding the stack frames would have been a hinderance for these cases.
Right. It’s a bit worrisome that people (even people in this very thread) know nothing about how recommendation and ranking work but think they know everything. “Release the code” is nonsensical.
Oil refinery workers are generally college educated petrochemical engineers.
Their "peers" in the corporate office often make much more than they do. I don't know of what refinery workers are "retiring early" but my grandfather's 30 year CITGO pin as well as cancer that runs through my family from proximity to those "low cost centers" leaves much to be desired of this rose tinted narrative you're describing.
that’s the thing with computers, performance is always nuanced… Latest Intel’s are fast, latest AMDs are fast, latest Apple silicon are fast and we’ve never really had it better. I’m super happy to be back in desktop arena with user replaceable parts and capacity.. 32 core, 128gb ram, non soc systems for me at prices i could only dream of a few years ago.
Another problem with AA is you don't know who is there voluntarily trying to get better, and who is there because they're a physically abusive alcoholic that was court-ordered to be there.

There was also an uncomfortable amount of "thirteenth stepping" going on in my groups, where the single males running them ended up in relationships with women in the groups.
It's exactly what you said. I took your dissembling and accurately reproduced its message in one sentence.

> More precisely: ideas are powerful, which means they can be dangerous.

> Anyone who doesn't understand that is actually a deeper enemy of discourse than a platform owner who says their forum is not a venue for topic X or opinion Y.

In order to have REAL FREE SPEECH (which you call DISCOURSE) we have to CENSOR BAD OPINIONS.

No. Stop playing whack-a-mole with "bad ideas". "X idea leads to Y bad thing" is almost always wrong, the world is chaotic, no one knows the result of a tweet, and people who claim to are just looking for excuse to shut down debates they're afraid to have.
They bought a dev team with heritage on the Alpha and StrongARM and assigned them a new task. Not that ballsy.
Take off every 'ZIG'!!

edit: all your base are belong to us
Personal stories from the edge: I was at Google (GW3, down Charleston from the main buildings). The Turkish PM was visiting, and they had the intersection at Charleston & Rengstorff blocked off for him. OK, I don't know who ordered that.

Another time, there were two black SUVs parked in the "expectant mothers" spaces, and a guy in a suit with an earpiece standing nearby doing nothing. I walked in between the SUVs, just to see what would happen (nothing). I don't know who was visiting, and I'm they wouldn't tell me.
Aiui, A number of their actions were later ruled unconstitutional (with no punishment)?
Scientists resurrect ancient enzymes to improve photosynthesis
The question is just one:
Are you one of those guys that cares about microseconds?

No?

Stick to Firefox!
What would be much more interesting would be Twitter allowing users to define and publish their own algorithm, like lists with superpowers.

Stumbled on this idea on https://twitter.com/nbashaw/status/1515054551371378688
Amazingly Naive.

Just the data and code needed to make the “algo” scale to what it is means there is no good way to “open it up”.

But let’s say, and why not, that it actually was opened.

I can see it now, everyone and their mother would be recommending changes to it. People would want it at the extremes, or tweaked to just not recommend their pet peeves.

And if they did not get their way, they would go off in a huff and threaten to join another service.

Years ago I ran a big enough service that had millions and millions of users every month. A member of the military came on and demanded we allow him to do something that was against TOS.

He complained that this was what he fought in Iraq for. So he could write anything he wanted anywhere.

America is certainly not free and it’s time we stop giving our content to services like Twitter and Facebook if we believe that.
Do people really browse those recommendations? Twitter is for following a couple of people, switching to timeline mode, and done.
I feel like I’ve been hearing about Materials of this type for years and have never seen anything practical built with it. How about they make a phone with this already?
Not everything is supported yet. Depending on your workload/device it could be usable if you're okay with the limitations. See their feature support page:

https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support
For a long period of time, Reddit used to be open source. It can be done, plus additional changes to add transparency on top, like giving people the option to switch between different recommendation algorithms, making it clear why content was recommended, and so forth.
The LaTeX ones are better because they require you to pour in way more time, thus making it more important that the message comes through.
The intention behind my reply was to say that the right to life is not the only right that people have, they have many others, and it is not a simple matter of saying one right some people want automatically gets priority at the expense of many other rights for many other people.

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding your comment. Are you saying that restricting rights to protect public health is more important than the right of freedom of movement and other rights?

This is why I mentioned the flu as an example of how difficult it can be to draw a line. Why don't we lock down everyone for the flu every year? Is it because the numbers are different? People still die. Even when people agree on the numbers they don't interpret the risk the same. Some people don't think covid was that big a deal, certainly not worth the impact lockdowns had on everyone. And I also mentioned the idea of helping protect the vulnerable without punishing those who don't feel they are vulnerable. I think a lot more could have been done in this regard.

I just don't get why some people feel justified imposing on the rights of others when there are other approaches. Different values, I suppose.
We don’t write them in though.

You can show a DNN a large sample of photos of animals, retain the lower sections of the network, and then show it a large sample of landscapes — and it will be able to recognize those faster precisely because a well-trained network picked up on the latent structure of shapes, and can reason about shapes in its internal language for describing pictures. It’s acquiring genuine semantic information — and learning about new experiences relative to that previous acquired understanding.

We didn’t create that similarity of form in nature — and DNNs discover that in much the way we do: finding recurring, abstract patterns to utilize in our internal language.
Women read more cited less due to engaging in societal progress research
Even if you “open” the algorithm you won’t have proof that the system is in fact adhering to said algorithm or even including all data in its set.
> I've never seen someone who understands promises or async await do that. You'd have to know nothing about what the async keyword actually does to be compelled to do that.

> usually junior front-end

So you agree with each other then?
I think that's a way to call for transparency. For instance, if they say they don't shadow ban people, then it should be evident in the code. And it would force them to have a clear process for things like search without any "nudging" or social manipulation.
For me, the key to async/await is a linter that complains about un-handled promises. I appreciate in Go that any green threads are created explicitly with `go`, whereas in typescript, they are signaled by the return type.

My most recent background was in Go and so my mental model now is that async functions are similar to goroutines and `await` is a nice result collection mechanism.

What's recently confused me is that exceptions from yet-to-be-awaited promises crash if you await anything else first.
https://xkcd.com/690/
Are scientific posters still a thing in all conferences you guys attend? I see many communities transitioning to "digital posters", by which they mean PPT slide decks...
I sure miss traditional posters, but curious what the future holds for them.
The flat earthers did it first and did it better. The fact that most people think that the flat earthers are mostly serious makes it a more clever satire.

I'm sure many people are ready to point out that there are actually people that believe the satire, but that's true of most satire.
Very useful!

Posted this on behalf of the silent majority that likes the approach.