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I think we agree. But my point is that statements like that from O'Reilly (and Bill Gates, at other times) allow shallow-thinking people to start formulating ideas that businesses shouldn't make a profit.

Yes, money is a means to an end, rather than the end itself. You can't take it with you, and stored money is useless unless deployed as investment.

But there is no other viable way to that end, as much as people like to pretend there is. When we lose sight of this, we slip into muddle-headed thinking and everyone loses out. Eventually, an unprofitable enterprise will lose staff, investors, suppliers and will die.

It's as though we're all riding a train called 'profit' to our destination, but everyone in the dining car is pretending we're really levitating on a magic carpet of good intentions to our destination, because is is impolite to talk about the train that is carrying us along. The 'train' needs to be brought back into our conversations.

It's as though we've traded the Victorian distaste for discussions about sex with a modern distate for discussions about making money, even though everybody does it as much as they can.
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Healthcare is insanity much like education because the current institutions assume everyone is identical. Simply using more tech isn't the cure. There's an almost a paranoia about using resources inequally, when choosing properly can yield huge benefits. That said, tech can certainly improve things! My favorite healthcare insanity and a glimpse into what can be done story:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/01/24/110124fa_fact_...
While I appreciate your insight and experience, you might want to view http://news.ycombinator.com/newest with and without "showdead" turned on for your account: http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jaylevitt

Frequently over half the submissions are dead spam, presumably killed by the policy in question. I rarely see false positives. While the quality of the remainder isn't always great, it's a lot better than it would be if there were no controls in place.

ps. Flag some spam while you're there :)
a google search didn't turn up anything, but I don't think it is an original thought. Entirely likely I heard it somewhere.
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I've posted about this before, but I wanted to again bring it up as a note of caution for people who might be looking for work.

My present employer (who I've finally decided to try and make my former) has a policy forbidding any employee from serving as a reference to any former employee. They are literally not allowed to comment in any way, but are told to forward all inquiries to a phone number which will verify employment (a number that no one actually seems to know).

Ostensibly, this is to protect the corporation from potential lawsuits; but it has a chilling effect on employees who are looking to leave.

So I'd warn anyone to be careful about working at a place like this, as it can make leaving much more difficult. A policy like this isn't something you'd generally think to ask about while interviewing, so I don't know how you'd find out about it ahead of time, but it's probably worth asking about.

I've had companies ask me if I could violate the policy and provide them references anyway, which I'm not a big fan of. As anti-employee as I consider the policy, I think it's important to follow the stuff you've agreed to (and I'm not sure what it says about a company who is that willing to have you violate the policies at your existing company).
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Both Palm and Windows Mobile/Windows CE/PocketPC came out well after the Apple Newton, which already had all those features you list. Okay, maybe not "cameras" so much. But everything else. Not to mention a vibrant third-party developer community generating apps for it.

> If anything apple BLATANTLY copied WinMo, but made it look nicer

Now that is funny! If anything, WinMo could have been held up as a model of what not to do. I mean, even Microsoft has entirely abandoned it, which ought to tell you something...
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Thank you. After the 4th paragraph I was hit by deja vu. Had to scroll to the top to check if it was stolen.
I have started two companies. I'm not suggesting that the value of the company isn't important, but I've seen many times where the quality of the product drops due to a focus on shareholder value, resulting in a drop in that very value they were trying to protect.
Either that or no one that Microsoft has shaken down has the financial wherewithal to challenge Microsoft's claims.
"Fewer and fewer people are using FreeBSD"

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"he has to have profit as his main motive or he would fail"

Obviously it has to not go under but I bet he'd be happy driving on Mars in his solar-powered electric car if his companies made just enough to get by.

If by "main motive" you mean a minimum requirement then we agree. But for some that's just to get leeway to do the things they really want to do.
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Yea, personally I have been thinking instead of motivating salespeople with quotas or commissions, how about having them letting them cooperate with engineering to improve the product.
Gartner does consulting, but they mostly provide analysis of IT-related stuff. Think of them as a "Enterprise" Ars Technica who pushes specific products, and whose analysts you can pay to call for a 30-60 minute presentation.

Probably 70% of their business is producing analysis that allows people in the government or large companies to justify buying things. Google "Magic Quadrant", which is a gartner thing that lets lazy IT executives pick a list of vendors from a checklist.

Like anyone who tries to predict the future, Gartner gets things wrong all of the time -- they base most of their conclusions on client interviews and vendor dog and pony shows. That said, they do collect good information and you get alot of good insight from talking to the analysts.
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I like this a lot. I'm a lil too cheap to buy, but I'll at least throw in a word of appreciation :)

This is almost an essential service; it's what Google Reader should be; it's slicker, tasteful and fast.

Some suggested improvements: The toolbar buttons are cryptic, and takes time to find out. I was hunting for the
prefs button.

I wish there was an offline option too. Still then, great job! One less Google service to use :)
Hmm, i guess the point is to inspire HN'ers to think about systematically improving public education (or at least volunteer as a tutor).
Actually, I'm nearing 500 premium users. That's the number of premium users using NewsBlur in the past 24 hours. In fact, all of those stats are aggregate for the past 24 hours.

It's the kind of transparency that I think goes hand-in-hand with being open-source. Why bother hiding it? I'm constantly watching those stats, so maybe other folks may also be interested. It also helps to know when there's a ton of activity, in case the site feels slow. Although it's been a long time that having a huge spike in traffic has made the site slow. Check that average load time graph. Notice how even though the number of feeds loaded has spiked in the past 3 hours, the average load time has actually gone down. Stats, for those who care, are endlessly fascinating.
Agreed. I bought a cheap laptop when my previous computers hard drive failed. Now I have more money, but I don't want to buy a desktop just to play games and then never use my perfectly functioning laptop.
there are few experts if any on what is moral profit (is a doctor making money of sick people moral? ). look around you. everything you see and use is obtained from earth. there is a cost to mining earth this way and it is not reserved to rich countries.e.g ghost towns in US caused by fracking.
beyond this , your statement is too generic to even repudiate.
Yeah, it takes some concerted effort to realize its happenning and to relax back into sleep.
I've turned down job offers over required background checks, for a variety of reasons. I could see how they would be appropriate if someone were involved in handling money or deals or some such, but for a plain dev, it's silly.

I'd consider just a plain criminal background check, but for the rest of it, my credit is none of anybody's damn business. The demand to call all my previous employers and verify salaries is similarly horseshit -- my previous salaries don't matter a damn, all that matters is our agreement on what an employer is going to pay me. The weird thing is companies get indignant if you turn them down for this reason, and pissy when you characterize the demand for such a check as a lack of trust. Particularly since my previous 3 bosses are references. While I suppose someone could fake references, it's hard to do with linkedin, especially since someone doing a reference call to an arbitrary phone number could just ask for a verification email from corporate email.
Hmm, Toronto doesn't belong in the low tier alongside Idaho and Kentucky, but I don't think it costs $2k+ for a one bed either. We need a mid-tier on this poll. :)
And once you've agreed on PUT vs POST, you can start the arguments on PUT vs PATCH !

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"People who have you in their email contacts - and have imported them to Facebook - are probably suggested to you too."

I noticed this behavior when I signed up to test this first using an old email address. It had known friends as suggestions as well as people who had already requested to be my friend, including my actual profile. I don't explicitly remember important my email contacts but it is a possibility.

Looks like it treats both contact books the same, even if a user didn't add the individual contacts at the time of import, it keeps a record of them to potential make suggestions at some future point in time.
I earned my A.S. at Portland Community College before going on to a larger university for my B.S. and PhD.

PCC had a large high-school completion program which they tried to steer many entering students towards, along with all the corresponding remedial classes; these served the dual functions of providing an alternative to traditional high school and remedial education for people who supposedly graduated high school. PCC took the very sensible step of providing a placement test when you first enrolled to find out what level of classes you should start with; you could place anywhere from "need 3 years of remedial classes" to "skip the first year or so of english and math".

In my case, I lucked out and got a good advisor, who confirmed what I'd found from the handbooks: rather than spend 3 years earning a high-school diploma (graduating at the same time I would have received one in standard K-12), I could spend 2 years earning an A.S. and enter PSU as a junior. I chose the latter. :)
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I work as an undergraduate teaching assistant in a sophomore physics course, and I've done tutoring for high school "advanced placement" physics classes before. In each case I observe the same problems: students can't do simple algebra, don't understand concepts like dimensional analysis (make sure that when you try to find an energy, it has units of energy), and don't actively seek help when they're struggling.

I've had AP students (high school seniors!) write things like this:

7x - 4 = 10, therefore 3x = 10.

It took a moment for it to sink in that 7x - 4 is not the same as 3x.

Students don't grasp the basic concepts, and nobody takes the time to catch them up, impeding their ability to learn until they catch up and develop a better understanding. Unfortunately the second step often never happens.

This is why I'm excited about methods like the Khan Academy's exercise system, where you're encouraged to stay on a concept until you truly understand it. I'm interested to see if they can pull it off successfully, and if it'll be put to good use. Education certainly needs all the help it can get.

I wonder what a physics major and hobby programmer like myself can do to help.
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Why are we accepting this guy's premise that "equality of wealth" should be a target at all? We could get equality tomorrow if we took most of the stuff that the rich owned and just destroyed it. Does any sane person think that would be a good thing to do?

The fact is that things have gotten better for the some of the POOREST people in the world over the past 50 years. They have benefited from improved meds, better food, cheap telecom, etc. And unless there is some major screwup, things will probably get _better_ for them, not worse. Just compare the unemployed in the US today with the unemployed in the Great Depression. Do we have large herds of unemployed moving out to California to become migrant farm workers? No. Do we have them all turning into servants for the rich? No.

People will not be replaced by robots as long as human+robot is more productive than robots alone. This is true for many jobs today and it will continue to be true for many jobs in the future.

If you think of things on a super-long timescale, then we're eventually going to hit intelligence enhancements. And then things are going to get really exciting.
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I would dearly love a link to hard stats proving the number of jobs has been reduced. See brianbreslin's comment for a counter example.
Personally, I found that community college did a far better job at teaching the material; I suspect that in large part this occurred because the classes fit into a degree program with prerequisites. People would start at the community college, find out that the first-year college classes they needed had prerequisites of material they didn't understand, and go back to the right starting point.

We could do worse than to just send all high-school students to a community college, or programs structured like them.
So touch screen only controls aren't the way to go. But it may not be necessary to reinvent the basic controls of the car. Making a better climate control system isn't going to win hearts and minds. But what would be very interesting is a web-connected car with an API and a touch-screen device with an open app ecosystem.
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Try to stop by General Assembly. As the largest coworking space in Manhattan, you'll see a lot of early-stage work taking place. They also offer classes and workshops on different topics (for a fee).
I have a bachelor's degree, and I haven't included an education section on my resume for at least a decade. (I'm 40 years old) I've been at VP or C-level for a long time. That's largely because my degree is largely irrelevant to my career path, or at least I believe that putting it there wouldn't really advance the story I'm trying to put forward succinctly on a CV. I have an English degree, which has actually been incalculably key to my career as a software company founder and executive, since I studied writing and basically write for a living. But I founded my first company when I was still in college, and it's pretty much what happened from there that's part of my story. As it happens, I went ahead and finished my degree, but it wouldn't have mattered one whit if I hadn't.
> And yes, we still have trouble finding enough jobs for people.

Well, North Dakota has 15,000 open positions right now. It would seem mobility of people has something to do with unemployment also.
This site is overwhelmingly busy. I can't tell what's going on. I can't tell what it's supposed to do, so I can't tell if it's doing it well. One thing is clear though: it's an eyesore.
That's interesting. Never really thought about the military robots. I guess it wouldn't take much for a "rich person" to pay an individual enough to be willing to fly a drone over a crowd of "poor people"
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This is probably been asked a 100+ times before but it is something I would like to know.

I work full-time in a fairly demanding development position but also have a side project which I'm hoping to evolve more into a startup.

There are a lot of new features and really interesting work to take it to the next level including mobile components. Since I work FT and am unable to quit to work FT on the project I would like to find a development partner who is somewhat equally as passionate.

What are some of the suggested outlets? Most of the people I know and/or work with and have worked with in the past have really no interest in working on something outside of their FT gigs.
Hobby programmers are making a big difference right now, helping out Khan Academy by contributing exercises.

The whole thing is open source: http://github.com/khan/khan-exercises

We've had people who claim to have never been professional programmers come in and create impressive exercises that thousands of students are using daily to fill gaps in algebra, trig, calculus, etc.
If you think that's crazy, consider than an original Apple II computer cost $4600 in today's dollars.
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If you still confused, go read Running Lean (www.runningleanhq.com). A very concise and step-by-step approach.
It looks good. The fact that the bot chooses randomly makes the choices of the user essentially meaningless though, all possible strategies produce a 50% chance of winning.
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This is a stellar example of the muddled-headed thinking I keep posting about.

Define 'just enough to get by'.

Even if investors and employees are in it for a higher altruistic goal, they'll still want a good return on their time and money. Very few people are wont to just burn money so that someone else gets to enjoy playing CEO of a cool company. And even if they do enjoy it for a couple of years, the fun will soon stop.

Profit has to be the main motive for any long-term, successful enterprise. And the really big goals require really long periods of profitability to keep everyone interested and invested, whether with their money or their time.
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Weird pricing here.

iBooks: $16.99
Amazon, Hardcover: $17.88
Amazon, Kindle: $20.72

I thought Amazon had rules that you weren't allowed to sell a book on Amazon for a higher price than it's available elsewhere.

Also, why, why, why would you ever price a hardcover book (on which you make 10% if you're lucky) lower than an ebook (on which you 30% on the Kindle, seeing as it's priced at > $10)?
This is precisely why there's so much increasing reliance on college experience as a necessary credential for so many jobs, even office work. A high school diploma is no longer a guarantee that someone has basic literacy skills or understands basic algebra.
Possibly, I only know my situation. The guy I knew coiled up into contract speak. "You signed something that said that I received 10 percent of gross sales" etc. But it would depend on the situation. I can only say that the parallels between the guy that fucked me over and this guy are huge. So many 10% truths (as opposed to half truths) so many ass covering statements. If you have never dealt with a psychopath you have no idea what you are in for.
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I'd love to know too.
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Completely agree. I'd personally love something like that. But then again, I'd think it would be a very VERY niche product. I have trouble enough convincing people I know to watch an episode of Charlie Rose.
If I can figure it out, absolutely.
I preordered it for kindle (just earlier today) and got it for $11.99
I hire a lot of people, so I see a lot of resumes. My opinion on interests and hobbies is that you're making a statement by including it, so you need to be smart about it. If they're mundane and not salient to the job, then you're padding a thin resume, or just being dense by including them.

On the other hand, they have the ability to make you stand out or advance your "story" then they can make a big difference. For example, if I'm hiring an engineer, and they mention that they've been working on an interesting open source project, or they co-founded a local hackerspace, then that's a mark in their favor. I hired an intern, who I later hired on full-time, largely because he described a scrappy and interesting local entertainment directory website he had been working on launching. He'd been basically living as a ski bum for three years and working as a waiter, but his ambitious hobby made up for that.

This wasn't on his resume, but a another guy I hired recently let me know in the interview that he plays hockey seriously, and that was good to know, because honestly some engineers need to get out of the house more.
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Either you haven't dealt with one or the one you have dealt with is much more crafty than the one I dealt with.

They have no morals. That's a psychopath, by definition. What you describe is a more intelligent psychopath, but they are still a psychopath. The lie to your face. You trust them because they are often charismatic, but it makes no difference. When push comes to shove they screw you.

I'm not over using the term. The person that I've dealt with (whom sounds strikingly similar to the $100m "vp" except for the reveal portion) was a class A psychopath. He lied to me before he even noted that I was useful to him. That is a psychopath at work.
I'm seeing very different pricing on the same Amazon URL... the Kindle version is the cheapest, $16.99.