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The article mentions that without free play, kids can not develop their own interests, which (my thinking) might leave them vulnerable to taking on unpleasant and unfulfilling jobs. The ability to be docile and execute orders does not really put you in control of your life, quite the opposite really. Yes, you need some continuity to build something complicated, but who knows, if you are really interested, you might be motivated enough without discipline.

Also, you assume that free playtime by children will automatically be spent on useless activities. While I am not convinced that there is nothing to learn from video games, I think kids will choose projects by themselves, and they will learn how to execute on their ideas.
Yep, unfortunately, which is why the follow-up post (http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/10/10/installing-python-2-...) came. Had Ubuntu 10.04 given me Python 2.7 with the usual `apt-get install`, there would be no need to install it from source.
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My point is: Only time will tell. For now, you can call it a PR success, but this is not what we were talking about, I guess ;)
I made a decision in middle school: I would stop going outside and I would experiment in the computer lab instead. Eventually two friends started to join me.

I never really learned how to play. It's a significant challenge to get myself off the computer and out relaxing, exploring, and enjoying free time.
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The writing in The Economist is awesome; many magazines would struggle to convey programming, compiling, and machine code to a general audience.
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I'm far more struck by this than Steve Jobs' death.
I'd be pretty stoked, personally - i mean, it proves that you're onto a good idea for an app if apple also spent the effort to make a similar app. So rename it and launch!
My child is only one year old, but I already worry about the time he'll have to go to school all the time. I can only hope that I'll be able to make it bearable to turn it into something else. For starters I want to explore efficient learning mechanisms. Also, I see it maybe as a lesson in survival - it won't be possible to escape the "oppression" of society, so it will have to be a game to survive as unscathed as possible.

I don't think I will be able to afford alternative schools, although I will try.
Thanks for the book suggestion, ordered.
Where in sydney are you? I'm in sydney too, could help point you in the direction of the local hacker scene.

Anyway, if you've got a mac (or hackintosh...) and an iphone or itouch, you could make iphone games?

Make sure you hit up the local meetup scene. RORO, SydJS, and Cocoaheads are a good start.
without a doubt. Considering his "blue box" selling start up I dont think theres any doubt he would have hacked the iphone....The irony of his stance on jailbreaking was amusing to say the least, complete 360 turn.
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Funny that he's praising IBM for something as meaningless as a YTD stock price change, and then goes on to complain about Amazon and conveniently ignores that its stock price outperforms IBM at every level.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ibm+vs+aapl+vs+amzn
A paintbrush is indeed far more important than the painting of Michel Angelo or da Vinci from an historical point of view.

On top of that, there are thousands of programming language today, many relying deeply on concepts and paradigms that are much younger than C itself, but C remains one of the most used languages. Not only C is very much used, it's still the only option in many cases and it is by far, the language that is most used to implement other languages, or at least to bootstrap them.

Considering the age of the paintbrush comparing to, say, spray ink, your analogy is in fact, not only valid, but a very good one.
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OR, just to say, I think he didn't actually screwed up with the accounts - he posted on purpose with his public account, then changed his mind.
Does anyone know if Amazon have responded in any way yet?
Anyone who takes anything Business Insider says seriously is a fool.
"I'm not a person who particularly had heros when growing up."

Thank you for being one of ours, RIP Dennis
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I had pretty much the same experience as a kid (I'm 22). As far back as I can remember we were pretty much outside until 'late'. I think the unofficial rule was to check in at streetlights on, and after dark be in only one yard. Most of my best childhood memories are of night games and doing really dumb things around the neighborhood. We didn't have gunpowder, but we did have sparklers and gasoline. Turns out you can make pretty impressive explosives with that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1E2cNPOnjM&feature=relat...).

It seemed most of the parents didn't pay attention to what we did, or at least condoned it. I know my one friends parent knew we got really into blowing stuff up, and just told us to "Be safe".

In the last 5-10 years I've seen a complete shift even within the families that were initially lax. My little brother and his friends got chewed out a while ago for dumpster diving a small LCD and other stuff. The "be safe" mom now watches the neighborhood for suspicious activity.

So, even though by all rights we should have had privileges restricted, that was never really an issue until highschool. All the younger kids I know are on a pretty tight leash, and they don't get into nearly the same level of mischief as we did.

My old neighborhood friends are probably some of the best people I know. We're all really close, and that's partly from all the stuff we did and still do. Taking risks with the support of a group softens failures, makes successes that more awesome, and pulls the group together.

I can say without a doubt that being able to explore and take those risks is why I understand my limits yet am always trying to push them. I almost completely agree with the article (except maybe the depression/anxiety) that free play is important, and in my opinion more valuable than early academic education.

/rant
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Respond to what? The ramblings of an employee who left over 5 years ago? That hardly seems necessary.

Yegge in 2006:
"I was at Amazon for just under seven years, incidentally. Great place to work. I recommend it."

https://sites.google.com/site/steveyegge2/blog-rants
I just read one of your replies to edw519's post, but I think you deleted it. I can't find it anymore at least. In any case, it stated you were not at all interested in programming.

I think you answered your own problem with that post.

I have seen your DeviantArt portfolio. You have real talent. It seems to me that drawing is your real passion. So go for that! If you have the opportunity to go to college and study arts, or graphical design, do whatever it takes to make that happen. If not, get a regular job and take whatever courses you can, and just keep drawing.

If you keep on drawing for a few more years to improve your technique, people will be fighting over to work with you.

You'll be able to do mainstream graphical design for websites and similar (not too exciting, but can pay very well) or you can go into some of the more interesting areas such as game concept art, character illustration, 3D modelling and animation etc etc.

Ignore what the hell your father or friends say. Your a visual artist, not a programmer. Set that as your aim, and go be it.
The unmentioned take-away here is not simply the focus on Platforms, but the reminder that 'Circles' are a weak feature to build a social network on. Why? because user's had already build organic circles across multiple social spaces (e.g. professional-only on Linkedin, perhaps family or college-safe on Facebook, close social on gmail, etc).
What's the advantage to multiple platforms for multiple circles? you don't accidentally post your internal company rant to the whole world. You don't post pictures of red cups and beer bongs on Linkedin and you don't talk about work on Facebook. This is how users were operating before G+ launched, and is precisely why users aren't diving in.
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I think Steve Jobs's passing away was a bigger shock to people because the memory of him and his accomplishments was/is very fresh in people's minds. He was the CEO of Apple till just over a month ago.

It's like finding out a friend passed away and "I just met him last week..."
In my opinion, what's unnerving is the endless posts about the lack of women in tech.

Yeah, I know there is sexism and discrimination, and that should be fought. Women who want to work in tech should be treated equally as men.

But equal representation is not a goal to be attained. For whatever reasons, in most places (not all!) programming and computer science aren't that popular among women.

We never hear about the "unnerving lack of men in nursing". Curiously, I also never hear about the lack of [insert minority] men in tech, which is more likely to be an indicator of social problems and discrimination.
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ALL of the assholes in your life telling you, you made a bad decision, are the real dumbasses.

People fail to realize that the outcomes of decisions must be measured twice. Once in the short term and once in the long term.

There are many times when a decision is BAD in the short term and GOOD in the long term. Other times (like the decisions our Congress makes) are good in the short term and bad in the long term.

You might be in a bad place now, but in the long term it might be for the better. Just hang in. If you're at your worst, then it's only going to get better from here on out. Give it time.
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For you, that is play. It's something you enjoy, socially. You explored computation instead of a park or creek.

Unless coding is stressful for you I don't see how that's different than kids playing games outside. Though, it seems you implied that being on a computer was not relaxing. In that case I'm straight wrong.
...Coffeescript was designed specifically to compile 1:1 to matching js

possibly initially, but there's a lot of constructs in coffeescript that aren't in js eg existential operator

solipsism = true if mind? and not world?

compiles to

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see also splats http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-script/#splats, function binding and comprehensions over collections eg

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Notice in the article I go on to talk about speaking to school-goers and people in college to hit a more diverse range of people in general.
Just wanted to point out that assuming careers and business success follows into a normal distribution is probably a poor assumption. Given the tremendous successes and wealth some people have created for themselves, the average working person is essentially just a few steps above zero. I know a few millionaires, but I don't know anyone who is personally in debt millions of dollars (although I'm sure they exist) with no hope/skills/connection to make money again, as they obviously had something going on to get in that position in the first place.
There is a quote by Donald Trump, something about how during one of his darker moments in his business life, he walked by a homeless guy on the street, and thought "that guy is worth a billion dollars more than I am". Obviously that is true on paper, but the homeless guy also did not have the resources to get their in the first place, much less make it back and become successful.
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I'm merely citing the fluff that has occupied Hacker News recently such as http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3100278.

What sane, non-obsessed person gives a flying fuck what uniform someone wore and why they wore it?
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I think the the start up culture is less prevalent here in the Netherlands than in SV but it certainly exists.

From my personal experience I can say these guidelines are not strictly adhered. The young, university educated people I hang out with all work more then 40 hours and take about 20 vacation days and work 40-60 hours, more if necessary.

However I think direct comparison is pretty hard. What does count towards the total amount worked? For example including social drinks in their total biasing the amount upwards.
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Excellent comment and conclusion and should be a mandatory read after the nyt article, really, because the newspaper story draws (or suggests) a conclusion that isn't really there.
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Can someone try this question?

"When and where will Steve Jobs be reborn?"
I meant "stories" in the journalistic sense.
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I don't have a 4S, but some of these screenshots already reveal some stunning limitations. For example "take a photo" doesn't seem to work (on a mobile phone, wtf?) and the proper response to "I think I just killed someone" should not be "oh did you?" but something more along the lines of "do you want me to call an ambulance".

On a side note, I believe Apple is making a fundamental mistake with Siri in not communicating its limitations more clearly (or at all). Sure, the marketing department probably wants to make announcements to the effect of "oh, this baby can do anything" but soon customers will find out that's not the case and be thoroughly disappointed after the novelty factor wears off. Siri is a prime example of this shortsighted marketing move because its capabilities are murky and unknown by nature.

Putting out a clear bullet list of things it can do (like: make cal entries, notify, simple if-then logic, GPS data, Google lookup) would work much better in the long run.
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You know, nothing is perfect.
Ever played a landscape game on the iPhone, watched a movie in landscape, or whatever? Ever noticed how you somehow always cover the speaker with your hand without noticing it? I do. It's driving me nuts.
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But working "just fine" isn't the same as "working as well as it could do" no matter where you are on the graph.
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In my day - I'm 37 - I remember being VERY free in my play time. We didn't do bamboo blackpowder cannons, but we did tin foil blackpowder rockets, and no adult complained - because they didn't need to know. But I was raised up in smallish, very safe cities. Now I live in a big city (Rome), I have a little daughter and I would be worried to let her go around as freely when the time will come.

One of the reasons I'm using almost all my free time to work on my bootstrapped startup ideas is to be able to move to a little city and still be able to do what I like while earning enough money, so that I could hopefully give my daughter that same freedom that I got - if my wife allows that!
It works well, and I'm glad to see Google pushing towards HTML5 (and related standards) and away from Flash.
"That hardly seems necessary"

I would say there's enough fallout that damage control should have kicked in. Just look at the original thread, it's full of negativity.
Well, this reminds me a little of Jerry Maguire's "mission statement".

The future of our business.

Fewer clients. Less money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDbV2-tZgbg

... more platforms.
I'm not sure you're following his point. Chromium for Ubuntu isn't really a Ubuntu/Canonical or Google project.

If you want Google's Chrome, you can have it. You don't need to use an 'unstable', beta or dev repo to get it (though you have that choice if you want more up-to-date features). And (I assume) it gets updated in sync with Windows and Mac.
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http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/steve_keil_a_manifesto_for...
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See my comment here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3105322
I'm a multiple paying customer. I use Google Apps, AdWords. I can't use Google Plus under the same ID as Apps, because Google appear to think that paying customers are less valuable than free users. And we (Apps Users) went for ages without any explanation other than "we're working on it".

To do any work using AdWords and Google Apps and Google Analytics, and Webmaster Tools I end up using three accounts and two browsers.

If Google did Platforms, then the first one to fix is "who the F* am I?" (Authentication and Access Control) and make it get used everywhere.

Hell, Google can't even work out what to name things. So you get scammers exploiting Google.com naming to convince marks that the scammer really works for Google. This is also a Platform issue - Google.com should be for Google stuff - not abusable to allow, for example, spoofing a search results page so you can claim that Google has given you special access to modify search results (one SEO scam that I keep encountering). Non-Google stuff should be on an identifiable domain, which will eventually permeate user consciousness as being "not Google content".

I speak as a pure outsider and consumer of Google stuff. But I'm sufficiently vexed by Google Apps/Accounts/Profiles to want to lose the paid for services as much and as soon as possible. I get better (or no worse) treated when I don't buy. :)

And Stephen's point about Google arrogance - yes, I think Google is arrogant. I was an AdWords Help Forum Top Contributor until Google decided that small businesses should only receive AdWords support from other users, not Google. That's seriously annoying. I stopped contributing when it became clear that Google thought small businesses should be denied any customer service - you really can't have third parties answering questions about why Google isn't accepting a specific credit card, or even why a specific disapproval has been given in an account you can't see. That was pure arrogance - dumping on volunteers and crapping on small businesses. I'm told it's different now but I still have such a bad taste in my mouth from the experience I don't want to get involved again. Google can be arrogant, 100%.
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Absolutely.
Half of the world uses Unix flavours be it linux or any other OS( Mac OSX) , most of the realtime critical apps run on unix.
Most of the primitive codes are written in C , first language most people learn is C(atleast for me).

With Unix and C , he has changed the way people think of computers and the way of talking to them.
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Indeed. I was saddened by the dead of Steve Jobs. And although I comprehend his contribution to humanity, I was never "personally" touched by his products (e.g. I have never owned an Apple product).

Dennis Ritchie is a different thing. As other people have pointed, in my opinion there is no current technology that was not "touched" by the contributions that R&K did. Being it Unix or C, these are two of the most important software creations in history.
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Agreed - traffic is an issue.

But I'm convinced that the threat from "predators" is minimal, yet I still find it really hard to let my kids just go out and play. Luckily both myself and next door have decent sized gardens, so they get to run around outside all they want. But it's not the same as when I used to go out on my bike all day and not return home till I was hungry.
I worked on a major financial application that had a consumer front end written in share point... it was horrific... easily the worst thing I had seen in 15 years of developing.

The guys that put it together created a situation where there multiple front ends to one database. Each front end generated GUIDs and rammed them into the shared database. My work was to fix the sync'ing problem derived from this.

Most poeple I know refer to it as scare point now, as it scares most developers ;)
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Children are overstimulated these days. They expect activities to be provided rather than creating their own. That's why they are anxious and depressed. They are afraid of boredom.

Letting your kids be bored is a very powerful thing. They will go out and create rather than consume.
It's interesting to see which parts of the handbook are dated, and which are not. Surely nobody these days would criticize Unix for crashing every few days, or complain that copy and paste doesn't work in X, or about a "massive 3/4 megabyte binary", or `ed`... but `rm` is still an irreversible operation (and versioned filesystems still esoteric). Pipes still suck, even if all the alternatives are worse. C programmers still have to deal with manual memory management...
An affectation really (like wearing a bow-tie). "I'm so important I can't even be bothered to think about what ice cream I want", if true probably done just to be the subject of an anecdote.
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