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I disagree. Wave's biggest problem was that it wasn't user friendly. If you wanted to search for open topics, you needed to use under documented search modifiers. It worked just fine for most early adopters, but never gained traction because it just wasn't accessible to a wider market.

The problem wasn't that it didn't serve a purpose. The real-time collaboration has moved to google documents, and fills a real need. That said, your analysis for the failure is pretty accurate. It was a focus on engineering over user experience that sealed Wave's fate as a case study on how to not build a product.
The plan to build a single centralized overseeing system doesn't seem to be the smartest choice security-wise.
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Do you imply that if society benefited from Apple's secrecy, because without secrecy Apple wouldn't be able to deliver OS X and iPhone?

I'm not buying it.
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Do you have an NDA or non-compete agreement? If not, live and learn.
Wether it is or not a platitude is irrelevant, it doesn't devalue the advise. It is good advise to tell somebody that it is better to be safe than sorry not to use an illegal substance especially if doing so can land you in jail.
Thanks for the response. re: "...wrote the content, ...., did the wikipedia searches...." --> my 4YO can't read or write! Damn HN, I always feel inadequate!
Previous discussion of this question:

http://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-tol@canonical.org/msg0008...

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1696125
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I'll be honest, I do not have any experience with this, but I have to say that 12 months sounds like a long time, especially 6 months of development with him there. Do you have anything up and running to claim or prove that you were first? On the largest stage, we've seen the precedent for something like this, with Facebook. I would imagine that odds are not in your favor, unfortunately. Unless you had a non-compete.
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I suspect it was a marketing decision. The consistency of his clothing choice, helps to reinforce the brand (in this case Steve and Apple) in the public mind via his portrayal in media. For those who are aware he always chose the same clothes it's merely an idiosyncratic trait, however for the wider public who are only dimly aware of leading computer figures, it aids recognition ("ahh that's that guy, who runs Apple") above the background noise. There's a bit of an analogy with brand connection/consistency in choosing similar product names eg - iMac, iPod, iPhone. Consistency, helps cross-recognition and positive association. It's all a carefully crafted narrative for the public mind.
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Thanks for posting this. I hadn't seen it, some interesting points!
This is great! I think there are some problems with the gameplay though. I was able to walk way past the dinosaur, but every time it attacked, I would start bleeding even though I was nowhere near it.
Having served as a TA, I can assure you some students will seek out anything tangentially related and make few if any modifications to the project. This isn't just a case of reused projects, too. A lot of times our assignments would be open-ended within a framework (e.g., create a game that uses the minimax algorithm). Things like that. And naturally they seek out anyone that had taken the class previously.
> And this is the essential broader point--as a programmer you must have a series of wins, every single day. It is the Deus Ex Machina of hacker success. It is what makes you eager for the next feature, and the next after that.

I liked the whole article, but this paragraph really stood out to me. It's something I've never thought to put into words, but is so true. Going for days and weeks and not seeing any success in what you're doing is horribly demoralizing. It's happened to me only once, and that was enough to reconsider my appreciation of programming entirely.

It's because the real appeal of programming is, like he said, the incremental gains, the constant moving forward, the iterative process. It's why small side projects are so much fun, because there's nothing getting in the way of your next small accomplishment. It's what draws people (like myself) to programming in the first place. And in its lack, it's the slow killer of large projects.

Thanks for the article.
Ok well, it's been 3 hours I'm on the website; reading, looking the source, bookmarking lots of things, buying new games and books. This guy is simply amazing. Please, do yourself a favor and get a look at these links: http://worrydream.com/#!/Links
I see it as: remove focus away from anything but the product. The stage is boring, the screen is boring, the slides maybe not boring but simple, the person is not interessting. Steve was already rock star. Just like the ring in LOTR movies. How you make impact with such a small product. Steve wanted everybody to hunger for creations and his work.
No one considers Taiwan a country, aside from a minority party in Taiwan that wants to declare independence from China but doesn't have the balls.

The ROC considers Taiwan part of China. The PRC considers Taiwan part of China. The ROC and PRC are rival governments of this one China. The ROC controls Taiwan and a couple other islands, the PRC controls the rest.

The one thing both states agree on is that Taiwan is not a country; Taiwan is part of China. If you're going to be lazy and sloppy about it, you can call the ROC "Taiwan", but neither side actually sees it that way.
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Not that I care about the karma - but would appreciate hearing how this post didn't contribute?
Not all four-year-olds are interested in reading and writing. That has nothing to do with your personal adequacy. Furthermore, it only has a minimal amount to do with their ultimate adequacy at reading and writing. Different kids learn things at different times.
Is it this book : http://www.modernism101.com/rand_next.php
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There is an interesting comment posted about this topic by someone whose father worked as a technical writer on NeXT http://www.nextcomputers.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1590

Paul Rand was hired to design the logo for 50k, with the following rules: he would ask some questions concerning the mission of NEXT, and then he would leave. There will be no updates, no revisions, no meetings. he will return with a logo and if it is accepted, another 50k would be paid to him.

Mr. Rand returned with this small brochure (not the 100+ page document that is written about all over the net.. i think people got the 100 from the price of the logo design). This NEXT logo brochure really brings you into the mind of a great designer. Steve Jobs was so overtaken by this proposal, that he asked Mr. Rand if he could make copies... to use as marketing material to potential investors.
Best to get over it. This will not be the first time or the only time it has happened to an entrepreneur.
No one should be banned from Google for failing to fill out robots.txt in the manner Google prefers. This is a horrible abuse of power -- and a competitor -- by Google. "Quite simple really."
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>"There isn’t much Steve Ballmer has created at Microsoft, at least not as far as the consumer sees it."

Microsoft is not primarily consumer oriented company.

To understand where Microsoft's focus lies, one must remember three things...

Developers

Developers

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Jeans and a tshirt go much further back than that.
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This thread is old...but I do want to finish by saying that I think we agree on a few points. The main issue I still have is that Krugman believes that Keynesian models can be applied in our political system. Sure, they should work just as you portray, but they don't. And they never will. Keynesian models are simply to prone to corruption. I said he was an idiot though, not a fool.

Of course the fed is bailing out the banks...they always will, they are the banks! This is a very, very dangerous road. We've made a real mess out of something that really is simple. I can't say it better than this. http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/10/profess...
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UI is like music. It's easy to listen to when done right, but even then, just listening to music all the time doesn't make you a musician.
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Wow, this is very possibly the coolest computer vision related link I've ever seen on HN. Thank you so much for making this!
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This is a good intro to modern C++ from Herb Sutter: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/TOOL-835T It's from MS's Build conference but not specific to any platform or tools. I really enjoyed the video though, especially when he compares an old C-style program to a modern C++ version--very much an aha! moment for me that C++ has evolved into a really nice language.
We have been developing SupportBee for the last 7 months with feedback from some HNers. We now have a working product used by a few of our beta customers and have put up a video demo of our product on the site. We would love to hear the feedback from the HN community.

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wow, good karma +50 to Matt on this one
I am, in fact, very interested in pragmatics. We value new insights and results, and substantiated claims. But syntax, semantics, pragmatics are all fair game. As are the sociology of the PL world, and psychological insights about cognitive aspects of PL work. And of course we are also into the history of the field.
However, that actually requires ordering socks, which as we all know is O(not gonna happen).
"SEDA is a hybrid approach between events and threads, using events between stages and threads within them [17]. This approach is quite similar to the message-passing model discussed by Lauer and Needham [10], though Lauer and Needham advocate a single thread per stage in order to avoid synchronization within a stage. SEDA showed the value of keeping the server in its operating range, which it did by using explicit queues; we agree that the various queues for threads should be visible, as they enable better debugging and scheduling. In addition, the stage boundaries of SEDA provide a form of modularity that simplifies composition in the case of pipelines. When call/return patterns are used, such boundaries require stack ripping and are better implemented with threads using blocking calls."

The above is, IMO, the most important quote from the paper. Of course, this paper is from 2003, so I would like to think we have made some progress in understanding events vs/and/or threads, but I don't believe we really have.
The only reason Apple did that is because Apple would get the blame if the call stuttered.

On the other hand, if YouTube was choppy, you'd blame the network, not the app.
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I've seen this happen to many early-stage startups. Not exactly with a cofounder copying the idea, but along the lines of the idea being copied. My advice is the following:

Your biggest problem is still finding product/market fit. It's very possible that you both are still building a product will eventually fail. Or at least in it's current form.

Focus on getting your traction/revenue. Once you're raking in the cash, you can determine whether its worthwhile to go after your old co-founder.
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It's not relevant whether they're needed or not if you use closures as your default linking mechanism because it's always the easier route. They're not needed for any site ever, they're just damn convenient. You go back through the app replacing closures with more verbose and direct linking as time permits; clearly pg hasn't found the time yet.
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You've misunderstood the type system. It's not untyped, it's the static typing that is optional. It's mostly just your typical dynamic type system with optional type checks in debug mode and (incompletely) at compile-time.
It would be nice to have a simple online tool that would add those vim keyboard shortcuts to any image. I don't want to change my wallpaper.
> Or does a power outage mean poof it's all gone?

Poof the closures are all gone; the state of the articles and comments are of course rebuilt from disk state on an as needed basis.

> I do build websites as well, so I'm not just armchair commenting.

I appreciate that, I just use a similar framework and understand why one would choose to use callbacks and not bother ever replacing them. It has to matter enough to bother and to pg, it doesn't yet.
Yeah. According to the Mythical Man Month (or was it Peopleware?), when someone gives you 100 software engineers to do a project, what are you supposed to do? Set up 10 teams of 10 people, don't tell them about each other and make them all do the same project.

The argument is that you are going to be better off doing that and picking the best one at the end, than you are running the project with 100 engineers in the first place.

The OP reads totally true to me.
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A couple of years ago, NYC's open data (http://nycopendata.socrata.com/ ) seemed really exciting, but from my brief perusal of the datasets, they appeared limited. It looks like they might have beefed it up since I looked.

Maybe this will finally be the year I get around to entering.
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I work for a healthcare MCO which is focused on the Medicaid and Medicare population. Over the last year or so faced with rapidly rising medical costs in our member population we launched a coordination of benefits(COB) cost management initiative aimed at identifying members who may have other health insurance while covered by us. In the health insurance world Medicaid should ALWAYS be the payer of last resort and if a member has other health insurance Medicaid should never pay the bill.

I was able to develop a fairly straightforward two-step utility to 1) identify members who have other health insurance and 2) identify what if any claims our MCO paid for those members. I ran this process across our population and the numbers were staggering... showing tens of millions of dollars that we could potentially recoup...and are now starting to recoup from providers who routed those claims erroneously to us.

Given that coordination of benefits (COB) is a core function with significant opportunity but where there is little automation I decided to launch a start up to drive this as a cost management or profit initiative where technology would play a key role in addressing the problem. My research shows that poorly managed COB function is costing hundreds of millions of dollars across the entire population of insured so the opportunity and ROI to clients would be significant.

So I'm basically looking for persons to partner with on this effort - strategic advisors, developers etc. While I have a developer background I have long graduated from coding and my focus is more on strategy and analytics. I know healthcare is not 'sexy' and this is not some shiny new social mashup but it is a big problem and the opportunity is significant.Your feedback is appreciated - it is a bit lonely in the health startup world - and if anyone wants to go deeper with this you can email me at: techy4health@gmail.com.
The improvements in the 4S are likely 100% due to Sprint's faster data network and not due to the phone's processor, etc.
Previous discussions:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1269090

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1355309

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2907415

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2910849
Thankfully, HN's content is not governed by the content of Slashdot's comments.
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using http://stormondemand.com/ (liquid web). When we started, a year or so ago, we ran unixbench on a few of their servers, linode and ec2. I don't remember the results, but I remember Storm won across the board (and, in some cases, like disk IO, by huge margins).

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Does it matter if someone copies your idea even if you have worked with him in the past ?

Look in the broader landscape there are so many ideas who are the same at their core. But only the user makes the decision who will be successful and who is not, try to deliver the best experience.

I got over this "we have to find some unique idea to start a business and we wont if someone is already in it".

Whip it off and go out and build a better product/service than your ex-co-founder their is enough room in every market.
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perhaps you should respond that Jobs did actually care to the guy I was responding to? :)
Like most acquisitions a great concept gets stuck in neutral....not sure why....wave fundamentally is a fantastic idea....but a complex problem to solve....the fact that no one else has solved what wave attempted to solve is in itself a testament....but having said that I don't think it was an issue of programmers coming up with a problem and then trying to solve it....I think virtual communication as we know it is still pretty bad....and this post gives you a good insight into how complex problems cannot be solved by adding more people to the team....that just adds more complexity to an already complex problem.
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I got that, and I appreciate it. My comment was specifically a reaction to ragenwald's first line "Instead of accusing you of trolling, I’ll respond seriously": I don't think the OP was trolling at all, i.e., he didn't write his post simply to get people agitated (which is my understanding of trolling), but to contrast a stereotypical argument with reality.

So in that sense, the original post didn't call for a rebuttal, because it was already arguing on the same side as ragenwald - just using a different rhetorical device. I made my comment solely to point that out, and didn't expect any upvotes for it, but I'm somewhat surprised that I actually got downvoted.
Thanks. I should have done a more thorough search before submitting this. I was honestly surprised that this particularly link hadn't been posted before, and now we see that this paper has nearly a half-dozen URIs on the same site. Bummer.
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Congratulations for a nice product. You are off to a good start. Here are my initial reactions -

Website copy could be better. Try to explain, why it is a joy to use. Also I think, the space is not well used, too much white space, I don't know exactly what but there's something wrong with typography, you can try experimenting with font-family/font-size. Green 'signup now' button is over done imo.

The three points you have mentioned on website, should be placed to get the maximum attention of the visitor.

Overall it's a good start for the beta. All the best.
The reason people are deriding it is because it's touted as a feature of the language, but it's really a very unhelpful and relatively powerless type system. Enforcing non-null is more useful than warning me if I pass a string to Math.min. The amount of time I've spent debugging strings passed to Math.min (so to speak) is a rounding error next to the time I've spent weeding out unwanted nulls.

Imagine if I were to put out a language with great fanfare given to the fact that it has a built-in string type. What would your reaction be?
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Thanks for the feedback. We will be working in the copy in the coming days based on the feedback we get. We basically wanted to put up the video and see if people like the direction we have taken product wise. Do you have any feedback on that?
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If you solve a a real problem in a new way, you should be here... Best of luck to you. The Healthcare Industry can use disruption, new ideas, and optimization. I wish I could help in some way, but I can't. Cheers!
It does look like the US becomes scarier every day. More and more extrajudicial powers, secret laws, restrictions on speech, unwarranted searches/wiretaps and so on. Their "war on freedom" is very successful.

As I've said before, the internet really should stop relying on the US that much. Too bad Europe and others seem to be asleep in this case. Maybe they will get it when it is too late. Having what is slowly becoming the world's only information distribution network in the hands of one government (or, any government) is a very big risk.
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oh my goodness, that is the most hilarious thing ever, and whats more suprising is that hes an EE and not a CS major
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