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You're arguing against a strawman. Nobody said that taking a particular side of a debate makes you dumb. This isn't about what side you take, it's about how you choose to debate.

HN used to be a place that cared deeply about conversing in a civil, responsible, and educational manner. Whether or not you agree with the sentiments expressed in the parent comment, the fact is that it doesn't meet those standards. Even if the logic wasn't childish ("fuck X by association", really?), the comment does little to substantiate its opinions, or to educate those who aren't aware of the issue. In other words, it's a populist comment expressly made to pander to those who are already in agreement.

Upvoting said comment means either (a) you haven't even considered the importance of having a quality discussion, (b) you've considered it but in this case you don't care, or (c) you actually think it's a high quality comment. The fact that the comment is sitting pretty at the top of the page means that people have, en masse, fallen into one of these categories. Like it or not, A and C are simply dumber than the HN of old, and B is more confrontational.
Both Jobs and Ritchie were important men. I don't know what you think you are going to accomplish here. Your posts are about neither of them, they are all about you.
"Thousands of people are saying that they've had enough of Wall St, DC, and an economy that only works for 1% of us."

It seems a bit ironic that the economy is working just fine for many of the people that will attend this gathering, which will make the whole 1%/99% thing visibly inaccurate. "We are the seventy-something percent" doesn't have the same ring to it, though.
I remember attending one of his lectures on Plan 9 back in 1996 at Bell Labs. It's a shame he's gone now.
Here is a potential reason why some are upset. Its obvious that large corporations like Chevy, Clorox, Apple sell to Monstanto [and other corporations some could consider "bad" or whatever you want to label it]. But when startups do it [especially YC startups who I generally believe have smarter people involved relative to large corporations] it is felt because people generally hold them to higher standards [not just in situations like this, it applies for operational, financial and strategic measures as well]. I worked at a YC startup for a while, and saw some pretty generous things done by YC founders for society.

Another way to look at it (if it helps you understand the other perspective): You frequently see YC funded companies help each other out. Why do they do it? Is it just to accumulate more wealth/raise a valuation? Or is it because they've developed meaningful relationships and care for each other? I use this example to show how empathy and relationships can impact business decisions in a general sense, and that this same logic could be used to apply to a YC company NOT being proud of serving a large corporation known to use tactics that harm farmers in underdeveloped nations.

The fact that you use the term 'hold to a standard' at least implies that some could perceive the action as 'slimy'.

Finally, as someone wise once said, "be the change you want to see in the world" -- of course we hold YC companies to a higher standard :), many are made up of brilliant and compassionate individuals whose products make the world a better place. /cheese
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History of C, by dmr
Hmm... aside from the SketchUp scripts, I don't remember a whole lot of Google projects written in Ruby. Do you have a source for that?
That book is a reminder of a time when Wrox & friends weren't trying to crank out 5 lb tomes on .NET SOAP Interoperability. So many modern books read like a student trying to pad out a page count for a professor.
Somebody please explain to me how this headline completely contradicts another HN headline (from the Wall Street Journal) that says the exact opposite:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3105596

From what I can tell, the WSJ is blowing smoke by saying that current VC funding is something like 76% lower than the 2000-2001 high - but this article is saying that current spending over 9 quarters is still going up. Is this correct? If so, I'd say that the WSJ is pulling feathers out of their ar$e akin to "current spending is lower than the high from the 1890's - who cares if this boom is more sustainable and less inflated than the tech bubble? For once CNet is doing a better job than the WSJ.
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There's no shame, there just aren't the same type of stories about Dennis. Ritchie was a hacker, he created amazing things that were ahead of their time which have enabled a great many developers to build amazing things (including essentially the entirety of the infrastructure of the internet and the web). But so much of Ritchie's work was enabling and mentoring rather than directing and guiding (which was more Jobs' MO). How many tens of thousands of developers were enabled to do amazing things by Unix or C? How many developers had moments of inspiration and enlightenment as reading through K&R enabled them to achieve a higher level of sophistication in their programming skills? But how many of those examples make for good storytelling?
I take it you're from the US? I lived in Germany a while ago where they reduced the high school years from 9 to 8 in some states. Here, parents complain about the opposite of what you observe, namely that the kids don't have the time anymore to participate in extra-curricular activities such as sport clubs, because the kids spend more time in school or doing homework.

So in both cases it seems that there's not enough time for both school work and sports. But the focus of what is considered more important seems to be different between the two countries.
There is no question about the value of numpy on top of pypy. The issue is whether a reimplementation from scratch is the best way to achieve that.
This last wave of startups has brought an incredible number of successful ones, and innumerable number ones waiting for monetization. As you said, the audience grew to billions of people. I remember in 2000, we were still trying to convince people that Internet is here to stay,to shop and to do business.
Do you have a cite to a case or good reference for this? I've heard it before, and it would be nice to have a source for it, in case I ever need to rely on it.
You'll probably now have to reconsider name as Apple most likely has filed a Trademark on this. So whatever "" is, any derivation of that: app, central, etc... would probably be blocked now.

Best course is to probably brainstorm what differentiates your app from Apple, as potential basis for your new name.

Maybe you can take your domain expertise you've gained and go 'vertical' or specialized to build your beachhead adjacent to Apple's mass-market focus?
Dennis Ritchie has died
Just a few thought - and a big thank you
I tried again, and even using quotes (ie, searching for "#android") I only get posts with just "android", without the hash...
It does implement lazy evaluation of array expressions and JIT to compile it on the fly to assembler. Having an assembler generator that's not too bad helps immensely with such efforts
We're going to work on making that really easy for anyone who's interested to see the ideas we come up with. Probably going to use google moderator to source ideas from occupations, and definitely using github for code that's created. We'll stick it up at occupyhack.com when it's ready (this is all being pulled together last minute)
I'll have to admit, I didn't know who Dennis Ritchie was. I remember seeing his name on the Unix Haters Handbook but that was it.
Noticing the black bar, I googled and now, I'm enlightened. It's a pity many will never know his name or his contributions but if it means anything, this here Computer Science student would like to say Thank You Mr. Ritchie for all you've done.
It would be a good marketing effort by Akamai to boost their sales, by crashing mainstream business web sites;
That might be one reason, but I suspect that another point in the article might serve as an alternative explanation: parents have become more and more (over?)-protective of their children. So they won't leave them at home even for 30 minutes when they have to go shopping. But that's pure speculation.
The article's thesis is the polar opposite of my intuition on the matter: "All Play and No Work: Why Your Kids Are More Anxious, Depressed".

Knowing how to work (i.e. be proactive in their survival) allows kids to feel in control of their life. I equate ability to work with cognitive discipline, and note that depression is easy to succumb to when one is too weak for a change of attitude.

I propose such potential sources of work-shyness as: the illusory sense of accomplishment from video games; hedonism as default response to any emotional problem; escape into internet culture does not condition one's mind for what matters for survival in the real world; internet porn; last but not least, parents may not be able to communicate the appropriate wisdom. In short, too many stupefying distractions of the fast food variety, not enough structure.

It is better for kids to learn to discipline themselves as early on as possible, since it is harder to unlearn old habits as they grow older. It could make the difference between an ADHD diagnosis or not :)

Most importantly, work is a source of happiness, too.
The Unix haters handbook was a great read (although mostly quite dated by now I think) dmr's forward was the best part though.
Good stuff. I've been involved in Occupy Oakland which has been growing amazingly since Monday. They have a pretty savvy web and tech team, they got a donated generator yesterday to power all the equipment, they're setting up a livestream, they are currently running a Wordpress site that could use some sprucing up http://www.occupyoakland.org There are a ton of other ideas that could use volunteers. Anybody on this side of the bay with some time and skills should stop by, it's pretty easy to plug in, there's an info tent onsite, there is contact info at the website, and if you ask there's also an irc site. I would suggest getting in contact with them if possible, Occupy SF probably has similar needs.

As far as ideas I think there is a need for a trusted decentralized network for inter-city communication, occupations are sprouting up all over the world and communication would help with the spread of good ideas and coordination. Dave Weiner at scripting.org has been blogging about these types of things this week and is offering occupyweb.org subdomains for webapps.
Interesting twitter thread on this between @davemclure, @pkedrosky, @msuster, and others, part of which is here:

http://twitter.com/#!/pkedrosky/status/124323109032574976

(how do you capture a series of related tweets, btw?)

Summary seems to be: the cash crunch is not happening (yet). McClure calls it "poor reporting".

Looks like TechCrunch has captured a bunch of the related tweets:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/12/web-start-ups-hit-cash-crun...
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Correct in your assumption. The particular area was Clovis, CA.
That depends on the country. In the Balkans for example, there are more .NET than Java developers, though both of them are in high numbers. The thing is, a lot of students after graduating are trying to get a job as a .NET developer thinking that it's easier, and after that they stick to that job.

And the second sentence, I have to disagree with you. I can't find the link right now (when I find i'll give you another reply), but there was report on USA's most wanted ICT jobs for 2010, and it was sorted per regions in Top 5 format, and the common 3 out of 5 everywhere were: Java, SAP, Oracle. .NET was 4rd or 5th almost on all of them. Second, there are more big companies with Java departments than with .NET departments (and some of them have both).
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I want to ask - does it matter if they are?
I find it hard to believe that anyone could just strike gold accidentally on their first app

Why not build something related to your interests? That way you can expand as you learn, instead of expecting a solid income from day one.
There are two blog posts as of why:

http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/05/numpy-in-pypy-status-an...
http://morepypy.blogspot.com/2011/05/numpy-follow-up.html

It's not possible to do cool stuff with reusing - like parallelizing expressions etc. The architecture as it is now already can score 2x wins over original numpy with array expressions and we expect it to get only better with SSE and more parallelizing. This requires reimplementing numpy.
The mothers noted that they restricted their own children's outdoor play because of safety concerns, a fact echoed in other surveys where parents mentioned child predators, road traffic, and bullies as reasons for restricting their children's outdoor play.

I've always wondered if there is any factual underpinning that would license such thinking from mothers. I am not sure the threats to children (besides road traffic) have risen so strongly over the last decades, but media coverage may have, creating the impression that the world has become a (more) dangerous place for kids.

However, the change over recent year is not as important as the actual current status, i.e., the answer to a question like: "If you allow your kid to play outdoors, what is the likelihood that it will suffer harm from any of the mentioned sources." (It doesn't matter if it was 50% percent less 50 years ago, if it's still very low today.)

Police statistics should provide the data for an initial estimation of such numbers, which of course would have to be conditioned further, e.g., for neighborhood etc.

But of course, people don't always behave rationally, so having such information - even if it should suggest that the danger is not higher than it was during their own childhood - is likely to have zero impact on parents.
I was rather hoping that any profile given to this entry will get the attention of coders at ubuntu and google who browse HN and they will be motivated to fix this.

The idea that end-users of Ubuntu have to install special repos with labels like 'unstable' in order to be safe when Windows and Mac users get stable yet safe releases weeks ahead means normal, usual, average Ubuntu users are less safe than other platforms. Ick.
Starting a lifestyle business will for sure take you a lot of energy in the coming years. There will be time when you want to give up. In those hard times things are easier if you are doing what you love.
I think that choosing a niche is better if you are solving a problem in the area you have a knowledge. That could be your big asset [1].
What are your hobbies? What do you like to do?

Many niches are very saturated. That doesn't mean you should give up. If you have something that your competition didn't solve good (or at all) there is a place for you. Your competency in certain area will help you beat them. Even if you take a small fraction of their pie, probably it should be enough for your lifestyle business.

OTOH, if you are looking for non-saturated market and find it, you can ask yourself is there any money in that market? Is it worthwhile?
You can find it is, but do you like that market? Do you know anything about it?

My point here is do what you love and money will come after years of hard work.

[1] http://faso.com/code618/34150/how-my-lifestyle-business-beca...
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You mean you want to have a browser with a long laundry list of known and possibly exploitable defects? Ick.
I think you should look at the niches you are in or your girlfriend's to start with.

Also, it is not because someone is already adressing a specific issue that someone else can't jump in with another solution (unless that competitor already has reached 100% of the market and even then your job would be to convince their customers that your product is better).

You may have dismissed a few of the niches that you are a part of simply because of the "someone has already done it" stigma.

If you are after a lifestyle business, stop thinking like you are building a startup.
Ah, I think the significance is that if he didn't retract the essay it would not have hit the news outlets.
Lets compare HNs reaction over them two.

Steve Jobs: Two days full frontpage of crying and "I remember him like this like that" and "wish I could have had the time to suck his penis"

Dennis m Ritchie: One post, most comments discussing relation of news to Steve Jobs.

Great going HN.
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> But how many of those examples make for good storytelling?

All of them? Especially for HN.

But oh Steve Jobs wore a turtleneck to gray shoes, thats an amazing story!
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"do what you love and money will come after years of hard work"
I think you would increase your chances of success dramatically if you would just look to solve problems rather than trying to do something that you love.

You would have a bigger variety of options (you can't LOVE doing everything), and you will feel less guilty when it is time to ditch an idea for another one.
Did you even bother to read the article? It is about free play - outdoors - that kids organize for themselves. And how they can learn self disciplin and social behaviour from that. Not about video games or any of the other stuff you wrote about.
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How about implicitly statically typed restricted Python?

Like shedskin but rather more tricks and rather less restricted subset of python constructs.

Scripts exporting defined, typed entry points rather than a complicated tangle you can get with JS which can depend on the content of many scripts and the order they are executed.
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I didn't have anything to do with any of the Steve Jobs Apple logo tributes, but here's my take on a Dennis one:

https://plus.google.com/109834643338395014064/posts/CWHKvH7d...
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Working hard is not a requirement to success, it is a favourable factor.

You'd better test ideas quicker and see which one sticks and then work hard on that idea once it has been validated.

For each "we made it after 10 years of hard work" story, there are millions of "we wasted 10 years of our lives on the wrong problem" stories.
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Nobody will give you any particular answers.

Start with a high % and negotiate down. I doubt you will get 25%.

If they offer you X number of shares, but don't tell you what % of the total number of shares they represent, don't take it, it's a ripoff.
"Well, I never had to learn C..."

-Ritchie, when asked how long it takes a programmer to become proficient in the language.
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This is a really weak argument: the fact that HP used Android during the manufacturing process for testing is totally unrelated to the argument this same article puts forth earlier that unintentional and negligible distribution is more of a "leak" of private information than an actual intent to distribute a modified work; in essence, the article seems inconsistent in its own arguments and beliefs.
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Nettkatalogen.no in Google.no ranks for about every possible term.

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(They use the "powered by Google logo". They use very aggressive phone sales tactics and scam people. They buy links from newspapers.)

Is www.nettkatalogen.no violating Google Quality Guidelines? Or is this okay?
>Larry Page was especially critical of pay-for-inclusion because it skews your incentives: if you don't crawl the web well, then people pay you to fix your own shortcomings, which in turn encourages you to have more shortcomings.

It would be fine provided you explicitly didn't turn it into a profit center, and just made it pay for the people's time.

Torching people's websites and shrouding the reasons why in mystery skews webmasters' incentives - away from creating high quality content and towards figuring out how to circumvent the latest change to the search algo.

>I wouldn't be philosophically opposed to a pay-for-support system if it were done well, but it would be a tricky thing to get right. Normally when we consider it, we end up saying things like "Why don't we just try to make it so that people don't need that option?"

I'm sure you could do that tomorrow if you wanted, but explaining in perfect detail exactly why somebody's (legitimate) website got torched would open the details of your algorithm right up, which would not only open it up to gaming, but would open it up to being copied.

You really could use a team of humans who can explain in human terms (as opposed to algorithmic) exactly why webmasters' sites got torched for violating the spirit of your "high quality content rule". Those same humans could equally feed back data to the search team where in their opinion an algorithm accidentally torched something it probably shouldn't have.
I have a rather cold heart myself but still had no trouble seeing how a cute story like this told shortly after a tragic and untimely death could resonate in a heartfelt way.
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Useless and unresultative work is a source of mind boggling, crazy driving, heart breaking unhappiness.

And children are only allowed to that kinds of work.

When I was a child, my only agenda was that I wanted everybody around to stop bothering me so I would do what I wanted (and I wanted to read books and tinker with my PC).

I hated school work (which according to the article grew 145 percent), I hated school, I still loathe it and I would try and support anyone who argues its questionability, like the parent article.

(Happily for me I mostly got what I wanted, but I wasn't an american kid)

Children should be doing what they want, left mostly to themselves.

And by the way, you say ADHD as if it was something bad.
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