skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> At the point defined by the letter of the law

Well, then, it's interesting that Spike Lee's comments were judged to be threatening harassment (he settled after legal action was taken against him and a judge ruled the case could proceed), yet he was never banned or removed from twitter.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/nov/12/spike-lee-sued-...

Let me be clear, this isn't about the Martin case -- this is about an uninvolved person who had nothing to do with the case at all being singled out for harassment by Spike Lee. And @Jack thought it was just fine. This isn't about supporting some stealth agenda; it's about not telling a posse to attack some innocent old man.
Not long ago twitter, telephony/mobiles and electricity didn't exist, and people lived normal lives - but over time "normal" is redefined.

The issue isn't twitter, but online discourse in general, and what happens when it becomes "normal". There is also an issue of choice - it is normal not to read books, as many people do not; yet I wouldn't accept this means you can deprive people who want to read of a library.
Elon, if you’re reading, pull the plug. Nuke the entire site from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.
More on the shooter's background: https://nypost.com/2022/04/13/suspect-frank-james-was-spewin...
>25+ year old coax jacks in walls, 4-way splitters jammed into ceilings, leaky outdoor connectors that have been chewed on by squirrels, etc

all the above describes my apartment connection in Astoria. and the neighbors were DIY tapped into it too. At any given time I lived there there was an appointment scheduled or being scheduled to have a field worker try to fix the downtime issues. they never did and i moved out
I want to know the answer to this question.
> that kind of thing has a tendency to run out after a while and can be limited in how often they give you unique experiences

And that’s fine. Call it ”done” and move on to the next game. There’s more games than anyone could ever play in their lifetime; keep exploring.
> Unfortunately, Jaishankar seems to think of this as revenge against the Americans.

What makes you think this was intended as revenge an not just a way of saying mind your own business?
*.id.au is an interesting domain that I haven’t seen before. Apparently you can get an id.au iff you’re an Australian citizen, and it must approximately match your real name.
There is a Libreoffice "cloud" project, but I'm not sure how stable and reliable it is.

https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-online/
> Out of curiosity I had a look at the Wordle on the NYT site, and it's still the same script.

Really? I had a feeling the game/wordlist changed somewhat after the move to nyt - I guessed they'd put some crossword cryptist on it... But I suppose I was wrong.

Ed: AFAIK the js uses the client side date to pick a word - and today nyt and the ipfs mirror posted here does not share the same solution:

https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html

https://bafybeic4blel5vf4il73n3nzt6vw7npsov6or3cp3myjms4npii...
I found the dark web full of web1.0 vibes. no-JS. sometimes no-cookies. pretty oldskool.
> Or if you think SM is bad, then it can be a collective decision to ban SM, like we ban heroin.

Off topic but I don't think banning heroin did anyone any good. We still need proper labeling, packaging, and storage laws. We still need laws that prohibit drugging someone without their explicit permission. We probably need laws that don't allow sale to minors. We probably need ban on advertising "controlled substances". We might even say certain things you can only get under medical supervision by a licensed medical professional.

I just don't think possession ought to be a crime like it is today. Endangering others, sure but possession is just asking for abuse by law enforcement.
Show HN: Windows XP on PineNote
Complaining about people complaining about virtue signaling is even more tiresome. It's a way to protect the root toxic behavior by projection of that behavior on those trying to put a stop to it.
try to ask author of firmwares i have used to x86 chromebook for me:

https://github.com/MrChromebox/scripts/blob/master/cbmodels....

I am also interested on this thin Samsung for me but I lended it to a neighbour child. Can not do an experiment.
ok typo on my part... anyhoo - does "correct" go at the front or back?! Because the way I read it, the speech bubble saying 'correct' is after the horse and the other two words.
This is just incorrect. Amazon for instance does this.
In Australia the goto for dropping a legal hammer on a digital crime is "misuse of a carriage service" which is just a big lasso that puts crimes like fraud that happen on the internet into a simple basket so they can attach sentences as they see fit.
Which user in the chain of comments above is arguing that "government should compel commercial or private entities to give all voices a megaphone"?
This is important.

I dont know where the line is, but we should agree that a line is needed.

People are saying a line is not necessary. That is at the core, the problem. We need to agree that these companies -by accident or otherwise- have become a common good, similar to a "utility"

Take a similar example: at some point a company stops being a company...and becomes a monopoly. Where is that line? We dont know. However its important we recognize private companies operating as monopolies are not in the best interests of society.

Private companies operating as common goods providers should be subject to additional rules. That is what we should agree on. Then let others define what that is.
what brought people here was not the moderation, but the (perceived) access to SV people and capital
Dystopian furniture design: gaming bed
Near as I can tell, at least right now the real health and climate costs are hard to quantity and very diffuse across a huge number of people. Also prone to exaggeration or undercounting.

Price at the pump/wellhead is easy, and impossible to ignore.
I agree, 98.3%.

Google's infrastructure and DeepMind's internal (not cloud) access to it has been absolutely critical. In many ways, DM is leading Google in terms of software development, while Google is leading in providing unique ML hardware capabilities.
you.com, the search engine you control, huh?

http://shitmyself.com/thumb/thumb_800_5e84542c26a8815f33d767...
This is actually a good point... I have a very fast 16 core PC, but typing in Google Docs often has latencies. Everything in WP is instantaneous, even on my 6mhz 286.
You haven't said who you want to talk with and why.

If you haven't talked with customers or users, you don't know whether you have a product or some code and a way to run it. The difference is that a product is something that people will pay YOU for.

As for whether the internet can help you build a successful business, what kind of help are you looking for?

Do your customers use the internet to find products like yours?
Debt financing. It’s easy when you have an enormous net worth as collateral and close relationships with leaders of big banks/investment firms.

You can get an idea from Michael Dell’s takeover of his eponymous company.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/connieguglielmo/2013/10/30/you-...
Deffo this
Relevant username ;)
Same for me! It is now working but seems a bit degraded in terms of response time.
"Is this the beginning of a world optimized for well-being instead of engagement?"

I am too cynical to believe this. Would be nice though.
The problem with this narrow definition is that in it you don't have the right to create your own website, nobody is forced to sell you the IP, hostname or bandwidth, and to the extent that they are it's because letting private companies dictate public discourse is a bad idea.

There's a fine line between not amplifying someone and silencing them, and when the choices of very few privately run websites affect who gets heard and who not then we should be wary about them amplifying harmful speech and equally wary about them silencing speech harmfully.
I decided I wanted to start a blog and run ads on it, created a google ads account and was immediately blocked with no means of redress or support, only automated "tough luck" replies.
Free speech absolutism means spam, child porn, revenge porn, death threats, sexual harassment and defamation are all allowed. You’re cool with all that?
Incorrect.

ALM is a censure of BLM, which was a convenient nominative signpost for a rally banner that was aggregating a significant amount of violent and destructive riot activity in the name of it's cause.

You can argue that "if it was violent, it wasn't BLM doing it", but when you had the movement being used as a cover the way it was, and look at the bigger picture, it should start to crystalize.

ALM is a reminder. Yes, BLM. No one reasonanable questioned that. What chafed people, is the assertion any one group should be treated differently period. The fighters for civil rights of the last century plus fought hard for equality. There's this new push for equity which comes with extra baggage of "others should have to be subjected to exceptional treatment to compensate for historical treatment*. That is just racism, or segregationist thinking in another wrapper.

That is what ALM is a reaction to. Equal is hard. Equal requires work. Equal requires the unreaonanle among us to refuae to be pushed aside, and that's okay. Just... Be judicious with what gets enabled in the meantime, and don't provide cover/outlets for arson/robbery/vandalism/destruction of infrastructure at the same time.

Obstruct, be heard, yes.
Divide, destroy, no.

All lives matter. And if someone feels like they aren't mattering, odds are, the bunch of people trying to make heads or tails of quantitative and qualitative evidence as to the claim, and information propagation is work, and takes time, and has mo guarantee of success.
Every week or so, HN will give me that error, but it's almost always back in a few minutes. I don't really think that much about it, sometimes we all have bad days.
For PayPal to succeed it had to viciously hammer on a huge number of users who it algorithmically suspected might maybe be scammers. Blocking a tremendous amount of free activity in the process, punishing many innocent in addition to the guilty. This was done to create something that felt safe enough to get mainstream use.

That sounds somewhat like the Twitter of today, and not much like a hypothetical super-free-ified twitter.
It would be much better if foreign countries didn't involve themselves in the internal affairs of sovereign nations.
> mentalist can also remember the name of everyone in a theatre, using memory techniques.

It doesn't need to be _everyone_ in the theatre, or even most of them. He asked for "someone on the balcony" and then picked someone in the front row thereof.
Elon being in headlines is good for him and his companies. Making noise related to Twitter gets Elon in headlines.

It's the good old trick of 'there is no such thing as bad publicity' that Trump used so effectively too.

I feel like this is a huge publicity stunt and he would probably not follow through with it even if Twitter shareholders wanted it.
It's what I used as a kid, so it's all I know from that era. I still have those templates on my keyboard.
>So yeah, there's a pretty strong case to be made that certain internet companies are like that. Can you survive without social media? Sure, but you can also survive without sewer. It's just a lot harder to live a normal life.

In my experience, there is actually not a pretty strong case to be made for that, as evidenced by all the people who say there is a strong case to be made, but then fail to make a strong case. Perhaps they mean, "a case which convinces me, specifically, 1 person who is already convinced"?

Also, trying to survive without sewer is what led to The Plague's last big hit. Even the Romans knew it was unhealthy. Meanwhile, in this case, INCREASED use of social media is what's been shown to be unhealthy.
>History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes. Electric power, water, sewage, phone, internet access... each has its own specific history, times 170 countries. Not all identical, but the outcomes are pretty similar.

They all require physical infrastructure to every house, to provide service capacity. As such, we don't want 7 different companies for each, laying 7 different sewer systems and 7 different electric grids.

When the service is virtual, the same infrastructure limits don't materialize in the same way. We don't need to run new ISP lines to bring on a new platform.

So while ISP are certainly more like classic utilities, websites and social platforms just aren't.

>But mostly I wanted to counter the meme that "it's not censorship if it's a private company". Yes it is, when you have only one twitter and a handful of SM companies in total. It's not the ownership that matters, it's the ubiquity and the effect.

Corporate censorship isn't a "free speech" problem. SM companies just aren't enough like a utility, they are not actually required to function in society (unlike electricity, and running water).

Did you learn nothing from the battle over NetNeutrality?
Yeah they have edges and the support is bad, but they still kind of hit a sweet spot of good ux and features all tied into the google account you probably already use for mail/search.

I think we will see more competitors in this space though. Google isn’t investing enough into it and there is opportunity.
> Since leaving social media

Oh, irony..
You can comment on anything but job ads on this site.
United States Leads Seizure of One of the World’s Largest Hacker Forums
Do you mean the US bringing up human rights in India because India refused to toe the line on Russia?
> if ... you can play indefinitely, the concept of "today's word" loses its meaning

All I can say is that this is not my experience. In my family WhatsApp people post today's result and we sometimes have a bit of a chat about what it was like. Sometimes we do today's globle and quordle too. The quordle has an infinite play version but I don't think any of us spend much time on it.
> Now if you're not on the big platforms your opinion may as well not exist.

As someone who lives in a deep red state, I can tell you that the banning of various alt-right voices from mainstream social media has amplified their appeal among those inclined to listen, not eliminated it. There are plenty of channels for sharing your ideas besides Facebook and Twitter, and they use them.
Wiki on a Stick
Bill Gates spends his ill-gotten monopoly profits on funding research and wide scale critical public health and education programs across the world and including America.

That's on an order of magnitude difference than the world's richest meme-sharer purchasing the software company that provides the meme-sharing infrastructure.
I have a Google Pixel 4 from which the back plate detached and broke

Decided to swap the battery as well

iFixit parts list

Google Pixel 4 Rear Panel Assembly - 75$

Google Pixel 4 Battery Fix Kit - 37$

total - 112$

I bought them from AliExpress, same quality (official parts I guess)

Rear Cover With Camera Glass Replacement For Google Pixel 4 - 23$

High Quality Replacement Battery GO2OI-B For Google Pixel 4 - 12$

total - 35$

seems like a serious rip off, which makes me not like them
Do you ask the Chamber of Commerce which malls and stores to frequent whenever you want to shop? I think that would be a great way to avoid the bad areas with all the hobos and sketchy businesses that are probably fronts for drug dealers anyway.

You can "choose moderation" by not viewing Twitter accounts and conversations you don't care about and muting words you dislike.
Me too. But they have FB accounts, IG accounts, TikTok accounts and so on. The share of people without any kind of social media presence or consumption is shrinking everyday.
I think you'll find that both print media and online media have substantially similar protections for third-party content.
Yes. It really would. Which is why I think he's going to back off of this bid after bidding the price up and flirting with it.
There is a fairly interesting documentary of what Denmark thinks of free speech. To an extent where politicians are protected from setting the Quran on fire, full well knowing that it is designed to incite hatred. I don't know what the danish voice on silencing dissenting eastern perspectives on the war in Ukraine is, but the EU citizens seem to be themselves cheering on censorship more and more these days.

The documentary itself is quite interesting in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sM8p7hnprM
Cheers,

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We Still Haven’t Learned the Major Lesson of the 2013 Target Hack
FWIW, there is a precedent regarding shopping malls and the like. They are clearly private property, yet they must provide access for political activity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruneyard_Shopping_Center_v._R...
I don't think that's fair. It might be mastermind to anyone who can't speak English - but the gameplay feels very different (and is: it's not about guessing a random sequence, it's about guessing a word based on clues).

It's much closer to hangman.
What's wrong with tables? They draw faster than a crapload of chained DIV's just to show you a shitty "Press here to allow all cookies" info.
Yes, that's fair. I suppose I was describing my process of "discovery" and learning with Python which was significantly before 2014. Even now though, enums are not usually the normal way of doing things in public APIs, but that's presumably at least in part because of the history.
I feel like this contrasts with what I thought your position was based on your previous posts. As far as this particular post goes, I'm not sure I really disagree with you lol

From your previous posts, I thought you were not okay at all with private companies regulating speech on their platforms.
Quartz, the business news site, drops its paywall
I generally agree with you, but one thing that's been making me extremely uncomfortable lately (since 2016) is the attacking of alternate platforms/communities that are built. Back in The Day(TM), when people had issues with mod/admin decisions and they couldn't be resolved, they'd just spin off a new commmunity/chatroom/forum/etc. Some people would move, some would stay in both, and we'd wait to see if the disagreeing faction was large enough to sustain itself. If so, you'd just end up with 2/3 places to go to talk about X instead of 1.

Now it's more common to try to get 'bad' platforms dehosted altogether (e.g. Parler/Gab), subreddits try to get their 'alternatives' banned, and any company/group that challenges a big group is going to be bought out or otherwise dealt with. (See: FB's gobbling of companies to try to keep people in their garden instead of letting people chose which gardens they enjoy.)

We used to have the opportunity to walk into the woods and make our own playground. Now people will follow you and attack you for that. THAT'S the problem. Also we're becoming really fond of demanding community loyalty. HN doesn't have this problem (which is one reason I show up), but on other social media sites, it can be, for instance, forbidden to link to/talk about certain other sites. For example, on Reddit, it's common to ban people for posting in the 'wrong' Reddits, and on Twitter finding out somebody participates somewhere 'bad' is practically open season.

I should be able to go on HN and /b/, provided I follow my host's rules. I should also be able to set up my OWN site and explicitly say it's because I disagree with - say - HN's moderation policies without worrying about the site being attacked.
With all the recent emulator support, I'm surprised we haven't made a "Virtual zoo" Linux distro.
Newspapers are an influential platform, but most people aren't reading them. It's not that big of a deal if the government decided to censor them, agreed?
The post you are responding to was talking about today, now, not "not long ago". Today, now, not having twitter is totally normal.

If you think it might be a necessity in the future, then we can talk about it then, if you're right.
It's frustrating that this topic keeps being discussed as if there are only two options. Why not provide each individual users with powerful tools that let them specify the type of content they want to see and when. They can have a large amount of presets and with a single button click users can change what they'll be seeing or they can spend some time and modify it to their liking. People can also share the filters they created. Even better create an open API and let companies compete with each other over who provides the best filters.

Moderation is important, but why leave it up to executives at these massive companies to decide what is acceptable and what isn't. Let each user decide for themselves.
There’s a difference between free speech and access to global loudspeaker. You don’t have freedom to get maximum engagement.

Twitter and Facebook are dangerous because they allow anything that gets them money. Political campaigns and foreign influence campaigns wield armies of bots to spew bullshit.

People of more libertarian bent tend to focus on some idealized vision of free speech. When those platforms enable fascists to overthrow democratic governments, you’ve won the battle and lost the war.
The assumption that cops in the US actually care about someone posting swastikas is questionable. We already have lots of people posting about crimes on twitter accounts under their real names, and the cops very frequently don't do anything about it. A sizable number of the swastika posters are cops, too, as demonstrated by the periodic investigations into police departments that reveal those sorts of things.

P.S. Requiring someone to have a credit card doesn't feel like free speech absolutism to me. A pretty big number of people don't have the ability to make credit card payments. Do their voices not matter?
This is great evidence that most people know nothing about history. The same arguments have been made about TV, Radio, Magazines, Newspapers, Books, Philosophy and practically any other medium that people have used to convey ideas. This is exactly why you need to protect an individuals rights to free speech and expression from anyone with power because chances are that they'll have a biased streak a mile wide and won't be ashamed to impose their personal view of how the world should be on everyone around them no matter how much human suffering it produces. The only way to have a free society is to realize that everyone, the president, your hairdresser, doctors, factory workers, lawyers, farmers, journalists, grocery store clerks and you and me are all flawed, weak, limited human beings who are mostly trying to be good but are perfectly capable of evil at any turn and so we have to all agree to limit anyone's power over anyone else to the largest extent possible. If we misjudge and allow too much power to collect in any one office then we will inevitably be subjugated by it as it uses that power to accrue more and more influence over time and as we roll the dice with every new person that takes control of it. This has played out throughout all of human history and there's absolutely nothing about our time that guarantees it won't happen again.
Me too!

Upon appeal, they emailed me back saying "we can confirm your account isn't suspended"... It's like what are you talking about? I'm looking right at a big red banner saying my account is suspended!

My hopes are not high for a fast resolution.
Strangely, practically everyone knows about the Hunter Biden laptop story, so no, that was certainly not very suppressed -- and you certainly did see articles about it in established media organizations, just not all of them. So, no, it was not "essentially removed" from "public discussion" as the OP claimed.

In fact, your bringing up the story (which I immediately recognized) proves the point. It is indeed, part of public discussion.