Thanks for your reply.

My main point is that we are a tech / start-up community, and we should strive to keep it that way, by keeping propaganda (in this case western) out of it as much as possible.

> Ironically how we're getting this as part of a wave of amplification of Western propaganda... my God we really need to stop peddling propaganda, especially on a somewhat tech related forum.

> You're seriously replying to me at "-1" with a quote from The Guardian's about page? This is hilarious.

You dance around the issue I underlined and hammer away at my -1 comment, which of course is me leaving on the table an easy thing to attack. Giving me the rules of Hacker News is again a tiring way to continue this conversation, as if I am not aware of the rules. Your comment's bulk is a copy paste from the sidebar basically. Low effort. Again.

This being said, and continuing down the road, even though I am getting signals that my contribution is not up to spec (which is what my negative rating comment was hinting at), I will continue with this final reply.

> I am still curious if you have any actual reasoning behind your assertion that the article we are discussing is "part of a wave of amplification of Western propaganda"..?

https://imgur.com/a/hPDUX5s - this is a plot of posts to this forum containing the word "Russia" (https://hn.algolia.com/api/v1/search?query=Russia&tags=story...). Maybe you're also interested in the one with "Russia+China": https://imgur.com/a/wELwfLL

I don't think I need to add more to this as to why I believe there's a 'wave' of western propaganda that is touching this forum.

> If you are interested in counter assertions regarding the veracity of the Guardian as a journalistic source, I will be happy to provide you with them; my reference to their about page is not at all in "bad faith" as you charge..

I am very much not interested in continuing this discussion. You can replace The Guardian with <publication> and my initial comment still stands, "a quote from <publication>'s about page? This is hilarious". Do you think Russian media outlets have about pages where they mention the (mis/dis)-information they are peddling? Hilarious.

> Also curious as to what exactly is the exercise you are suggesting regarding your "personal disclaimer"..?

As above, the fact that <entity> writing about <entity> and using that as an argument is... hilarious.

> Not sure why you are accusing me of being unaware of the potential bias of sources that are within the Guardian article we are ostensibly discussing here,

I am not accusing you of such a thing. I am accusing you of bringing in propaganda to this tech forum. Willingly or not. I don't know, nor care.

> nor do I see how you conclude that this justified your accusation that I am "even more delusional than I initially anticipated.",

It's because you don't understand that I am not attacking <publication>

> but I work with sources in Japan, China and Taiwan and am comfortable with material in all relevant languages, so I am happy to discuss the issues pertaining to the disinformation campaigns waged by China against Taiwan and the geopolitics of the region if you like..

This is exactly my point. I am not interested, on this particular forum, in discussions that go below 'evidence of some interesting new phenomenon'. In this current context, I don't care about your obviously western geopolitical stance, your sources and how many languages you are comfortable with. I care about not bringing this kind of propaganda to the forum.

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> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

> Off-Topic: Most stories about politics