skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That's not how the TLS handshake works. The TLS server must be configured to request a certificate from the client in order for the client to know that it needs to send a client certificate to the server, and that server-side configuration is disabled for ~99%+ of endpoints.

TLS server implementations should be aborting the TLS connection for violating the TLS Handshake state machine if a client attempts to send a client certificate when it wasn't requested.

So while this bug affects both clients and servers, 100% of clients are parsing the server's TLS cert during the TLS handshake, but less than ~1% of servers are parsing a client's certificate during a handshake.
Everything competitive is locked up in patents, but maybe with the chip shortage there's room for more competition for existing chips. Question is: can they get seed funding?
That they don't answer to Uncle Sam?
The comments on this item are the funniest I've seen in a long time. Who knew Usians were so witty?
If you change what time people go to work from 8 am to 9 am then you will also be changing when they get home from 5pm to 6pm. Then you have lost that extra daylight in the evening, which was the entire point of the time change!
Love the fact that there are currently more people on the server than likes on this post :D

You might wanna take a look at https://github.com/charmbracelet/bubbletea ad specifically https://github.com/charmbracelet/soft-serve for v2.

IRC style commands that are only sent to the sender would also be nice as current version is a bit spammy with help and user commands.
> None of the federal money pays for expenses related to the actual programming and operations

Is this a joke? Literally the first expense listed under federal appropriation is "Operations". In theory they don't pay the producers of shows with the same money that comes from the government. But given that operations and maintenance are necessary to hold performances, and money is fungible, the distinction is meaningless.
What you refer to English billion (a million millions, rather than a thousand million s) is used in Europe instead of American billion. An European billion is an American trillion.
Or you could go the exact opposite, and do solar-local time everywhere.

We introduced time zones historically to make train travel easier. Now, we use navigation systems almost every time we travel long distances. It always shows me time of departure, time of arrival, and since they are non-round times and I can't be bothered to calculate the duration, it shows me that, too. If every city was in its own timezone, nothing would change. Just that duration would be slightly different than arrival-departure.

TV programming is basically dead, so you wouldn't have a problem with announcing when a show will run.

The only problem would be when scheduling online meetings. Frankly I rely on calendars for that, too. And often different places already have weird rules like meetings start 15 minutes later, or you should be there 5 minutes early.

The benefit of solar-local time is, I hope, that it will help people live more attuned to nature. You know at 12:00 the sun is at highest, that the daylight is symmetric around noon. People will be encouraged to make longer days in the summer and shorter days in the winter, maybe.
I don't have the ability to give a highly researched and informed response to this currently, but I disagree with the claim that 'forests worldwide are doing fine'. I don't think you can make a well-educated argument from looking at global aggregated numbers of land classification for a ~25 year time period. Biodiversity, ecosystem connectivity, indigenous rights, agricultural competition, surface water quality, and legal regulations are all important framings to consider as well. Also, while 1990 is a while ago in human terms, it is hyper recent if you think about the destruction of forests over the past 12-thousand years of human-induced landscape disturbance.

I agree that limiting forest loss has been one of the more prominent victories in the environmental space, along with halting ozone depletion. Happy to pat some colleagues on the back for that success...

Dropping this resource from WRI: https://research.wri.org/gfr/global-forest-review
Let’s get back to local noon!
The good news is that there is always daylight every morning. The bad news is that some places have a few months between mornings.
The sun currently rises at 5:30 in the summer where I live. It would just not be acceptable for it to rise at 4:30.
This whole thread has tickled my funny bone in ways I didn’t expect.
> if you're dying because the clocks changed and it was too much of a burden for you to re-adjust (like literally everyone else does) then oh well.

It's a good thing everyone's actions take place in a bubble and have no effect on others.
What is discord? Yes, I’ve heard of the company, but haven’t used it. You might do better with “chat” as more folks know what that is.
As a late riser I am thrilled by this development.
Yes, this is similar to having an application server hookup from the Videotext days, or for a more recent example, to have a point-of-presence in someone else's datacenter.

I'm not sure if there are gateways to the internet available for the server side, that would seem to be a logical development.
You do realize that Detroit and Boston are already effectively in different timezones as far as the sun is concerned?
Changing the start time for some activities twice a year seems likely to cause even more confusion that changing the clock
The link you provided gives a 404. This one works: https://about.system.com/blog/announcing-the-public-beta-of-...
> They're fine if they go to bed early.

They're not. This ignores diverging chronotypes. I suggest you read up on the science around sleep before commenting on whether "they're fine".

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/chronotypes-ev...

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/how-sleep-works/chronotypes

https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Sleep-Unlocking-Dreams/dp/1501...
I do not see how either daylight or standard time is fundamentally easier than the other. I could just as easily tell people who want brighter winter mornings to just wake up later.

The argument in favor of DST generally goes that people have more spare time in the afternoon than in the morning. So extending afternoon sunlight hours benefits more people.
What do you mean they can just leave work earlier? There are tons of jobs where the shift hours are defined, eg 9-5 or 8-4 and you can’t simply leave earlier.
That's funny, I'd also like to avoid the stress of having the sun rise at 2-3am in the summer. It's almost as if there's no right answer here and the current status quo just makes everyone unhappy and unhealthy.
What you're talking about is just "PT", but I usually just write out the word "Pacific".
Maybe they just can't afford data in their location, but can afford SMS (or are on somebody else's plan etc)
> Doesn't seem to stop other countries from doing this internationally and to their own citizens anyway.

What other countries are constantly drone assassinating people in other countries territories?

The closest to that I can think of might be Turkey and Saudi Arabia with their drone operations in Syria and Yemen, but those campaigns accompany full blown open military campaigns, quite a bit different to US signature strike operations.
There is a whole body of research, comparing the areas on both sides of time zone boundaries. The results unanimously show that living too far west of your time zone's center line, has negative effects on health and economy. In light of this research, permanent winter time would be good for health and economy. Permanent summer time will be worse.

Linkdump:

https://www.econ.pitt.edu/sites/default/files/WP%2017-009.up...

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/cebp/26/8/1306.full.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21231877

https://jcsm.aasm.org/doi/10.5664/jcsm.8780

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29636342

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276058441_The_incid...
Whether a pointer is bad for performance in this case seems hard to tell a priori. There are also performance advantages if Optional packs nicely.
Huh, interesting -- why doesn't California have school buses? I could imagine it might be hard/unsafe in dense urban areas like SF, but otherwise, why?
I'm on fastmail, happy to pay for reliable service.
"Auto update from a standard list" - please point me to this standard list. Note - I need to know for a given user at a given location what a millis from epoch equates to in local time, for times that could be before or after this change, so I need timezone conversions AND what dates they were in effect for. I also need some SLAs, and ideally someone I can pay; not much, but enough to feel confident I can get support and/or that it'll be around a decade from now.
The largest part of the pay gap is not negotiation, it's occupational segregation. And for the most part, sharing salaries publicly won't fix this at all. It's too late by the time everyone has chosen a career. To fix this gap, we really need to change how we all think about gender roles from birth.
I've noticed people with kids tend to share this position, while those without prefer DST.
You could try being less snarky, it's not necessary. Despite what you clearly think, I'm a young person. I think your perception is biased by working in tech (which most people on this site do) with lots of young people. Americans get up before 7: https://www.vox.com/2016/5/10/11639214/how-people-around-the...

So, we should make sunrise closer to that, not further away. My above point stands: young people want to move things later because they like staying out, staying up, etc. They learn to curb this as they get older, but this generation is trying to move time instead of growing up. Peter pan can't stay out all night playing when he has a real job in the morning.
Woo hoo! This is going to be really great for Seattle, where the sun sets at 4PM in the winter.

Washington state has already voted on this change locally, and are only waiting for congressional approval at the federal level.
> I would hope that China would understand Buddhism enough to know that there is no possible separate authority... I mean, the Heart sutra almost definitely came from China..

Speaking as an agnostic, outside observer looking in on the various forms of Buddhism:

Buddhism has mutated a lot in its history, and every country it touches has been changed by it and in turn changes it. I don't think any two countries practice the same form of Buddhism. Some sects of it are strongly mystical and others are more rational, and deification is an important part of some practices (and practitioners) and not others. In the US, I've been to supposedly Zen practices that had an emphasis on "acknowledging/honoring" the bodhisattvas prior to meditation; to me, as an agnostic, it felt very similar to worship.

"Buddhism with Chinese characteristics" (to steal a phrase) mixes their particular cultural norms with the Indian version, adds on Confucianism and Taoism to some degree, and then seeks to put it all under CCP control. Much like the Romans absorbed Christianity and added their own flavor, China does the same with its assimilees... again, for cultural and political hegemony. They are trying to weave the young puppet Dalai Lama into their own narrative, slowly and subtly.

You are a Buddhist in the same sense that Protestants and Catholics are both Christian, but that never stopped them from disagreeing :) Weird, the arbitrary lines in the sand we like to draw, no?
Sounds crazy, but works for India and China, so it's not impossible, just very very improbable ;_)
And they would laugh at you and think you're a dullard for not being able to navigate in the jungle and identify every plant you come across.

IQ tests have ingrained cultural factors just like the standards of intelligence those tribes have.
There is some good context here: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislativ...
If you're a SaaS app, sure. You can't easily "npm update" an airplane, though.

Like, if nothing else, think about all the plane tickets already sold for an hour that doesn't exist anymore.
Every poll I’ve seen shows yearly daylight saving time adjustments to be rather unpopular.
> I think the answer here is to have a system that can't be "gamed" by more tech-literate people

The person selling the house wants to see offers as soon as possible and can accept one at any time--the sooner the better--or hold out for a better one if they're not satisfied. Any system that changes that dynamic to the seller's detriment is not "more fair" to the seller.

we expect that an auto mechanic gets a good deal getting his own car fixed, that real estate brokers have an edge getting their own properties, doctors with medical care, etc.

You spent years becoming tech savvy to save you a little time scanning real estate ads... I'm not sure what problem you're trying to fix?
People are obviously adaptable to many different daylight schemes. But far more of society is up and running in the mid-evenings than the early mornings on any given day. Let's put the daylight where it can be the most use to the most people.
Gandi ftw!
Reputation is almost entirely wrapped up in awareness. Is it possible for something to have a bad reputation, but no one knows it?
Most rust projects with special deps (libtorch) need another build manager.

Regardless parent was implying that almost everyone everywhere uses cargo.
> A language needs only one conditional control flow construct.

And yet, Go has a switch statement.
Permanent winter time would suck here, I like taking my kid to the playground after school, I can't do that in the winter because it is long dark by the time I pick him up. Who cares if the sun is up and bright at 6AM in the morning while I'm still sleeping.

When I lived in Beijing, they are on standard time year round , and it was really horrible having the sun rise at 4AM in the morning during summer. Like really? How can that be healthy?
We shouldn't satisfy their goal. It's not their business to impose this on all of society. We should stick to a standard time and let individuals or groups do whatever they need at the local level. Most other countries do this and they are fine. YAGNI. No need for additional complexity.
I doubt most of my colleagues even know what their offset is – keeping track of that with DST is just not fun. Personally I just Google e.g. "2pm PT in CT," as Google has an info box that handles time conversions and is smart enough to know when you want DST.
This is certainly dead on arrival, right? Nobody wants or has ever wanted a computer with a screen flush with the keyboard. This was even known in the late 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jornada_(PDA)#Jornada_720

Maybe someone can hack a longer flexible ribbon cable and a hinge? And sell it as an aftermarket kit? Please? (The thing looks pretty cool otherwise).
I am so ready for permanent DST. More daylight to actually do stuff. Plus it's nice to not have to come out from work and it's all dark in the Fall/Winter.
The processor avoids being closed by not having a GPU.
You don't need to pay anyone for this – https://www.iana.org/time-zones

The tz database is public domain, and they have HTTP/FTP/rsync APIs. You probably don't even need to implement this yourself, since every modern OS pulls from this already.
What about all the embedded systems out there, which do very important things with timekeeping?

What about all the existing appointments, etc.

IMO 2024 -- 2 years-- is just the perfect amount of time. It's slightly aggressive but doable.

If people frequently make appointments, buy tickets, etc, for a year out, that leaves a year to get most of the software world cut over.
Atari Productivity Podcast
> With The View calling for Tucker Carlson to be tried for treason by a military tribunal

Isn't that the exact opposite of disappearing?

I think the examples you're looking for are DHS hotel/detention centers [1] and Chicago's hidden detention centers [2].

[1]: https://abcnews.go.com/Business/marriott-choice-hotels-serve...
[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homan_Square_facility
All I can say is that I find "losing" the hour to be brutal for several weeks. I've never been good with jet-lag either.

I like to joke that I never fully recover until they give me back the hour come November.

I'd rather they just pick one and be done with it.
Y2K required hundreds of billions of dollars worth of effort to keep it from being a disaster, and it still actually resulted in some significant issues:

"In Sheffield, United Kingdom, a Y2K bug caused miscalculation of the mothers' age and sent incorrect risk assessments for Down syndrome to 154 pregnant women. As a direct result two abortions were carried out, and four babies with Down syndrome were also born to mothers who had been told they were in the low-risk group."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
Even More Minor Features in Go 1.18
Can't say thank you enough for the massively informative and thorough response!

A few questions:

> You'll need/want to develop a workflow where you fetch the upstream source for a release, apply your patches, and build world, release validation involves checking if your patches are still needed and updating them to still apply if needed.

But doesn't that imply your having to fork FreeBSD just to use it. If so, doesn't that seem excessive for most organizations?

> The other way is to use FreeBSD as a stable base

You're not suggesting to use STABLE, correct. You'd still use RELEASE but rarely update it.
What do you mean? Arguably January 1st is off from the actual winter solstice by about 10 days, but that's not 4 months.
Repeat after me, "job security". I just hope we still have some 32-bit machines running in 2038 so that after I've conveniently retired, I can be called back in to consult.
From the article:

>"Arm China, meanwhile, is contemplating a float of its own. The rogue Arm outpost, which is led by CEO Allen Wu and majority owned by Chinese entities, has become something of a problem for Arm because Wu was fired but has managed to retain his position."

Is this not a huge meatball that ARM has hanging out here? Further from a link in the linked article[1][2]

>"Following the investigation of Wu by Arm and Hopu, the Arm China board voted 7-1 to dismiss Wu.
Given Wu’s refusal to vacate his role, Arm is growing anxious over the security of Arm China’s intellectual property, assets and finances, according to the people with knowledge of the matter."

How would any investor ever feel confident in investing in ARM unless this is resolved? Even if it is resolved what are the assurances that the IP is actually safe? This sounds like a debacle. Is this something that happened on Softbank's watch?

[1] https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3168443/arm-china...

[2] https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3089901/softbank-...
> The winter is when daylight is scarce, so that's what should be optimized for.

That is what this is doing. Make that scarce daylight available after work, when it is useful.
A minimal kernel is 2MB, fully acceptable by modern web standards. So downloading a new OS every page seems perfectly reasonable.
Odd choice of giraffe for the size comparison. They usually go for something a bit more 'blocky' like an elephant, a whale, etc. A giraffe is such a gangly creature, I'm not quite sure how impressed I should be with something the size of half of one.
> Who cares if the sun is up and bright at 6AM in the morning while I'm still sleeping.

According to the research results, public health and economy would care.
> Why don't they make the regular time permanent?

There's a pro-DST lobby because more post-work daylight hours is correlated with higher consumer spending. For that reason, permanent DST is more politically expedient in relation to permanent standard time.

> And if people want to have more light in the evening, then they just leave work earlier. Surely that is easier than permanent daylight savings time.

I don't think it's possible to lobby employers to change their shift hours. It is, in fact, much easier to lobby the government to change the clocks.

> I predict a lot of people will want to move school start to a later hour then.

This is probably a good idea, though... good ideas don't really seem to have much bearing on the way we arrange school schedules.
And people say bipartisanship is dead...
My main fear with the introduction of generics was the lack of stdlib support. I know they want to play it safe and are planning to change this in future versions, but the last thing I want is that I have to download some github.com/foobar/... library for every common sense generic type I might want to use.
I'd kill for a peek into the parallel universe where it was permanent standard time that was likely to get adopted and see how much effort went into researching the ill effects of that choice to convince people with enough FUD to keep daylight time switching going.

Here's the thing: If you're a proponent of permanent standard time, you should be in favour of turning off the switching no matter what. Even if it means daylight time. Because you know what? Your local time zone is changeable. You can lobby to change it. If permanent DST really results in the entire country turning into sleep deprived zombies having spontaneous heart attacks as they arrive at work and crashing into children going to school, then there'll be pressure to change it -- but we will have at least already started the process of eliminating the worse thing: changing twice a year.
It's a mass coordination problem. Businesses have customers. OK, segments of the business that don't interact with customers could choose to switch working hours. But if I'm retail say, my customers probably expect that I'll be open at 10am for a random store.
Interesting combination of two things. Good luck with your ebook!
Disruptive protest has been a thing on college campuses since colleges existed. Imagine if one took the commenters in this thread seriously and universities had just expelled all Vietnam protestors, segregation protestors, anti-Iraq/Afghanistan war protestors, sexual assault activists, etc. These groups have all took part in equally if not much more disruptive protests, which have been well documented.
Climbing gyms are indoors anyway!
Shifts, etc, are all basically negotiated business by business, school system by school system, etc. The night shift, restaurant workers, school kids, etc, are really pushed around by logistics to match rush hours for office workers.

A split between organizations changing their winter and summer hours and ones choosing an hour earlier or later permanently is not necessarily harmful because it ends up spreading the traffic across more time. Everyone moving in sync causes a very precise traffic jam.
Just when you thought your timezone display code was finally functioning. Now what do you call non-DST timezones? Just PST? Will we refer to our timezone as PST (DST) for the rest of our lives?

Let's drop this madness and go to one worldwide timezone.
Your assertion (uncited) borders on being deliberately misleading instead of negligently misleading.

[1] The Trump Administration declared it to be genocide: https://2017-2021.state.gov/determination-of-the-secretary-o...

[2] The Biden administration reiterated this: https://www.dw.com/en/us-renews-china-genocide-claims-over-u...
The average difference from solar time would still be larger with DST.

You can find a pretty good visualization here:

http://blog.poormansmath.net/images/SolarTimeVsStandardTime....

This shows the difference between solar time and standard time. By switching to DST you essentially shift the gradient to the east by an hour.

Other than Greenland I can't see a timezone where that wouldn't mean that the longitude at which the difference is 0 is outside of the actual timezone.
From what I can tell most people do not do anything other than get ready for work in the morning. Yes, there are outliers like yourself who actually utilize that daylight, but that's the minority. Most people want a later sunset.