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I've got to say, I'm looking at it and thinking "That's it?". It looks embarrassingly like C# to me.

Other than that: it's got coffeescript's fast initializer syntax, but it's not as concise. It's got types but AFAICT no type inference. No destructuring either.

Only thing I can see it's really got going for it is some basic types which could have been provided as a standard Javascript library (and probably will become one...)
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Yes please. No semicolons. And please make it look a lot more like CoffeeScript than Java.
Ruby or Python seem to be the best choices. Easy to get started, mature libraries and web development frameworks, powerful enough to get things done, encourage decent programming practices, etc. You'll probably want Javascript too...
People here seem to not know of the many existing implementations of this concept, including LCITK[1] and libhijack[2].

[1] https://github.com/planetbeing/lcitk

[2] http://0xfeedface.org/category/tags/libhijack
Go is a systems programming language, not a web programming language. It's like saying Javascript is incoherent with C.
You raise a good point. I'd like to see more about testing Dart.
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I like everything you propose here. Dart is earlier in development than I think most people realize, and I really hope we can get to something like what you're listing. Definitely self-hosting and a self-hosted IDE would be on my love-to-have list. As a testing nerd, integrating testing would definitely be on it too.
You intrigued me. Care to drop a couple of keywords that I could use in a search for my new quest to explore that history?
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Is the JavaScript that comes out of the Dart compiler/transpiler readable (like the JS CoffeScript generates) or is it mush like GWT?
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neither of those have google plus.
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Well, you can implement pretty much everything you just described as a library. The only thing missing is preventing memory sharing, but that you can sort out at compile time.

An interesting question is if this means V8 is gaining threads.
Re: IDE:

09.50: Now they are demoing a full eclipse based IDE for dart, very cool too, wow

From http://dartinside.com/2011/live-from-dart-launch/
> PShell allows you to pipe full COM or .NET objects between processes or commends, rather than just piping the text files between different commands.

Which is IMHO the best part about unix shell and the worst about PowerShell: being pure text, unix shell allows for very loose definition of the interface between the program and outside, allowing to connect stuff in creative ways with minimal plumbing; whereas PowerShell makes this interface definition quite stringent by comparison, hence needing theoretically less plumbing (at least for simple tasks) but requiring far more design in the interface, restricting connectivity which in turns generates more mediation and plumbing to connect foreign elements.

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We have a rudimentary unit test framework [1] that we've been using for the samples, though we're still playing with different styles. Personally, I'm fond of the Jasmine-inspired stuff I tried to slap together here [2]. This is of course different from the testing infrastructure for the language itself, which is its own thing.

[1] https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/#dart%2Fclient%2Ftesting%2Funittest
[2] https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/client/tests/client/view/ViewTests.dart
I'm inclined to say javascript, simply because pretty much any web application is going to need at least some JS. And it's not bad choice of language anyway. Maybe not so ideal for the server side but node.js seems to be gaining some traction. Being a node.js adept might even be quite a cunning choice at this point career-wise.
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CoffeeScript basically simplifies (and does a pretty good job, imo) existing JavaScript language features. Whereas, Dart adds classes and interfaces and a few other neat things.

Admittedly, however, I do cringe whenever I see things like x.compareTo(y) or X x = new X();
It's been true since I first wrote it in January: http://sneak.datavibe.net/20110113/wikileaks/

PS: The PATRIOT Act which perpetuates this kind of idiocy is ten years old this month. It's time to leave America. I did!
Full type inference also lets you write beautiful, simple code -- without even needing to add types later, you get them now. And speeding up execution is just a bonus, the main benefit is catching errors early, and refactoring safely.
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It's a really long story, but i'll spare everyone

Company A has been going strong for 5 years. They have raised some money to launch/incubate a new product in hopes to spinout a new company (Company B). They want me to run the product, take a small base salary and receive earnouts of equity on milestones achieved. The equity is within the new company(Company B) pending it spins out into a separate company.

1) Has anyone ever heard of such deal? Earn outs as I know them are used for acquisitions vs hiring practices for a new startup

2) Are there any huge 'watch out now' or tips to ensure I don't get royally screwed? Is this a good idea, or a really bad idea?

3) If i'm not the majority shareholder, can they just boot me out at any time?Do I have any legal rights?

Help!
Well TheOatmeal designed "Tumbeasts" for the Tumblr error pages, so I guess I am not the only one who experienced problems. I might reevaluate, but when I tried it last time (a couple of months ago) there were too many issues to make it usable for non-techies in my opinion. Maybe they rely on Flash? I have a flash blocker...

PHP - sure, it is just that I can not administrate it myself, and Wordpress.com has weird pricing. To fix hosting multiple blogs on debian, I would have to dig into the PHP code, which I would like to avoid.

Maybe these are not serious issues for the mainstream population, but I'll consider it :-/
That's not true. Go, Python, Ruby and Scala all have optional semicolons without insanity. It's just that JavaScript's specific semantics for semicolon insertion (instead of newline elision!) are batshit crazy.
I don't see the problem here. If you are searching for "Guy Kawasaki", it would make sense that his social networking profile would be among the results. Yes, he uses Google for his social networking, but he seems to be pretty popular there, and so it doesn't seem very farfetched for Google to return his profile as a result.

Also, let's assume that Google is putting its own content before other people's content. The Internet is open, so there's nothing wrong with this. Your search engine can index Google (and the rest of the Internet), so just use that one instead. Just because making a search engine is hard doesn't mean that Google should be forced to not show its own content. If anything, that's a reason why they should.
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I'm sorry, what? Space is "scroll one page down" on Firefox.
Puppet/Chef/Cfengine are different to Fabric/Capistrano

The former are pull management, eg nodes request configuration. The latter are push management, eg main server pushes to nodes.

My main concern is that you did not point out your requirements. So you leaped from one technology to a different one because puppet was 'maximum pain'.
I realize that in the SEO world, the standards of evidence are necessarily a little less rigorous. But, what?

I mean, I'm totally inclined to believe that Google is somehow promoting G+, but this does not strike me as convincing evidence. Neither does "I've seen lots of other examples!" Is there some credible information to be had, here?

Frankly, the output for this query suggests to me that Google isn't doing a very good job on this query in the first place. The photos of Guy aren't until the second page of results, and for some reason AllTop (possibly for SERP diversity reasons) is above many of his social media profiles.

Lastly, the G+ link is the seventh link. Only 50% of searchers even look at what the seventh link is! Is the claim that they are just trying to juice the results subtly?
A language that has type hints class keyword, and interfaces, I really think Google should have been better off implementing ES.next stuff... This is one of the most pointless projects Google has ever done, it doesn't solve any web developer problems, it's just the 999999th language.

They should have just embraced Coffee script.
Apparently my question is not clear. I'm asking this as a musician who does a lot of improvisation. The question is wether livecode improvisation is comparable.

The most enjoyable thing in improvisation, are sudden changes that can emerge in a good session. You typically have less than a second to react to such things. That is, less than a second to change rythm/feel, tempo, harmonics, volume, etc. More often than not all at the same time. Playing like that makes you feel part of the organism from which the music emerges, rather than a thinking actor in a rehearsed play. A feeling that I only find in dancing and other things I do with my wife.

I would really like to get into this livecoding stuff, and have tried ChuCK and SuperCollider. Clearly I never practiced enough to improvise in the live, but I'm wondering if it is at all possible in the sense I described above.
I install from source to /opt. It's fast and it works. What's the downside of this?
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Oh my, silly me. Should be fixed now, and thanks a lot for the catch.
That didn't stop them calling JavaScript JavaScript...
> there, no need for `new`.

Agreed. I didn't say you couldn't get better at all, just not much better. I'd personally be in favor of ditching new (or conversely making it a method on the class).

> The speed and wide-spread use of Smalltalk with the regularity, flexibility and terseness of Java's syntax?

Oh, you. You may be right. Making a new language is crazy, especially if you're aiming for widespread adoption. Still, you have to try, right?

Dart is definitely more terse and more flexible than Java. Maybe not perfect, but it's heading in the right direction. Dart is no DSL-friendly beauty like Ruby, but I think:

var odds = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5].filter((i) => i % 2 == 1);

is pretty tolerable without being novel enough to scare people that have never programmed outside of a curly brace language.
I agree that rewards should be aligned with work, but in reality they are very often not. Thus, ivy league education really does equate with higher salaries. We all know what should happen. But reality is not fair not does it follow our collective moral framework.
I've been convinced of "less typing means less bugs", so I prefer no brackets, no semicolons, short reserved words, etc.
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Programmers care about it because it adds extra noise to your program.

If you semantically, and naturally, communicate "end of statement" with a line break to human readers, why should you have to say it again with a semicolon to the compiler? Programming languages should focus on being DRY.
Thanks! I will take a look at these.
I don't suggest Perl because I wrote a book on Catalyst. I wrote a book on Catalyst because I suggest Perl.

Anyway, here's what Perl has going for it:

* a larger group of core contributers
* an order of magnitude more modules (and module authors)
* Moose
* excellent Emacs support
* higher average level of proficiency among core team, and module authors

Ultimately, CPAN is the reason for using Perl. But after doing a lot of work in Python, I do really appreciate the things that Perl has built-in, too, like all-encompassing regexes.
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It's actually very reminiscent of ActionScript-3.
exactly. I don't see this as that different than the unit converter or whatever that best guess thing was recently (or including a map on a location-like query, or a row of image thumbnails for popular celebrity names)...google thinks you're looking for a person, and they have a person lookup service. moreover, that service contains information populated by the people that you can look up, which makes it more likely to be exactly what you are looking for.

as buro9 said, the interesting questions have nothing to do with the (stupid) doped horse analogy or whether this upsets some platonic ideal of a page-ranked search index (in reality, they don't exist and no one would want to use one).

the interesting questions are if google including this information is harming competitors that would bring innovation to the market, whether that's even a bad thing, long term, and if (somehow) preventing google from including this would just hobble a mostly good product or would actually materially improve things for consumers.

those are really hard questions, and asking them like this just diminishes the level of debate that can be had about them.
Thanks for the tip. You like the idea or only the design? :)
It's sending me back to Hacker News after it completely loads on my Blackberry.
Even better - I was recently filling out a form that tabbed in such an incomprehensible manner that I think the tab order number was used to count fields as they were added.

For those of us who breeze through signup forms with Olympic speed, it's sort of like Garfield getting out of bed and stepping on to a cold floor.
I like it. And if they make it work great on the server as well, that's a big plus. A google supported node.js would be great.
Bake in a jQuery-like thing, or make it easy to build jQuery-like things, since I would much rather write something like the following in any language:

$('#menu').append(sliderMenu);
If you make it such as ALL i have to do is to watch my blog-front page (and have the option to write my own CSS) i will use it.

I don't want a huge interface for stuff i will never use. I want to be able to (when logged in) double click or something on my blog post and then it will turn into a <textarea> for editing and saving. I really hate going into a huge suit for writing a little text and upload images into galleries for later insertion into posts.

It should be like this.

- Go to name.easyblog.com

- See the white, minimalistic blog (posterous is good https://jontelang.posterous.com/)

- Normal user will just read

- Admin may login

-- He will then see the blog as normal but have the option to press a "admin mode" button which will show buttons for the posts "delete" and such.

-- Adding posts: He will see a "+" at the top of the blog where he gets a WYSIWYG + textarea -- then he press Save and the new post is added. He will then press the "admin mode" again to see the blog as normal users see it to make sure nothing looks odd.

-- Editing: Same as above except you press "edit" on a post.

-- Alternative: All posts become <textarea>s + WYSIWYG editors so that you do not even have to press edit.

All in all, simple and fast.
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Type inference is a tooling feature, not a language feature for Dart. The tools can do some type inference now, and more may be added later. At the very least, I personally really hope we get fully inferred local variables.
But to be fair, their PHP is a subset of the official PHP, and they probably use all of their own libraries (rather than the ones you have access to outside of Facebook).

So if you want Facebook to be your PHP success story, all you get out of it is "PHP didn't kill their company; they were eventually able to move away", which I suppose is not exactly a swimming endorsement.
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Is it moving in the right direction?

This is an open source project that hasn't done a code release for the last few versions (covering almost a year) and is tightening the licensing agreements to exert control (and doing so in such a way that anyone who isn't a proper licensee will struggle to compete).

Yes they've said that they'll open it up again once Ice Cream Sandwich is out but I'm unconvinced by a company who close off the source as and when it suits them. It feels closer to some sort of "shared source" model than open source.

It might be better than the Apple iOS / Microsoft Windows Phone model (though I'm not 100% clear exactly how much better) but it seems to stop a long, long way short of the ideal.

EDIT: Sorry, being a bit unclear in what I mean by shared source. I was trying to differentiate between projects than run in a open / collaborative way and those where they just publish the code after the event. I wasn't aware that shared source had already been coined to describe a particular model.
And pretty much all functional languages get by just fine without semicolons (Lisp, ML, Haskell, etc).
Funny, I've worked for both British and American startup-owners, and I could certainly relate to both charts (yours, and the OP's). I liked the British style more, but that's maybe I'm also Romanian and as the OP also showed we're kind of used to being negative about all things :) Whom I didn't like at all were the French (I did work for such company for a year or so), but maybe that was caused by my former bosses having graduated from École Normale Supérieure which made them a little, how should I say, arrogant.
Opening this up to rigor by peer sharing. Where are the signals that all other sites are subject to? Where is the crawlable structure, or the inbound links?
Or maybe they've only been working on this thing for a few months and were slavishly fixing bugs right up to the announcement, and IE6 support wasn't really a priority?

Except for Isolates -> WebWorkers, there's not really anything that can't be emulated in IE6. GWT has to handle a significantly more complex set of semantics and still works on IE6.

But personally, I prefer if there wasn't IE6 support, or any non-HTML5 browser support for that matter. If you're going to do a new VM, do a clean-break, because legacy support is another factor which makes web development a pain.
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Even better, a Google supported node.js with actors.
Maine isn't all that far north, actually, especially if you consider that the inhabited part is mostly in the south, along the coast.
I'm not sure if this article has gotten flagged out of existence, given that I don't see it on the front page anymore.

But it seems a little fishy that the OP got a -50 penalty from Google due to SEO, and now the OP is trying to get a blog post featuring one anecdotal data point about Google's results being unfair to the top of HN, no? I mean, the appearances seem a bit weird.
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The history of the Federalist party and of the Alien and Sedition Acts would be a good starting point. And, as TruthElixirX said, the Whiskey Rebellion.

For bonus points, be sure to pay attention to the American political response to the French Revolution and the XYZ affair, and to the relationship early America had with Britain[1].

Note: George Washington himself didn't belong to any political party (and he has famously spoken out against their existence). But, a lot of his policies were aligned with the Federalist party ideals.

1. If the words "Special Relationship" don't mean much to you, thats another fun topic to explore — and this is where it all started. But that's only marginally related to the question you asked.
Thanks! What would be a good interface for inserting images?

Edit: thanks, I like that idea!
Actually, putting an affiliate link into a sensible "I'm feeling lucky"-style address bar doesn't sound that bad to me. They did provide a useful service after all. Better than the spammy, crap search engine pages ISPs usually provide.

As for the correct thing being to return NXDOMAIN, browsers could have started providing helpful error pages for NXDOMAIN, perhaps with searches, years ago. They didn't, so ISPs provided a useful service, which happens to conflict with a 13 year old RFC.

Certainly though, the big evil is handing over customer data without fighting or even so much as a warrant.
I guess that was the intention, they bet on familiarity as well. Most changes are subtle, not necessarily a bad thing.
His Google+ has 200K followers. His LinkedIn has 500+.

My guess is that his Google+ profile is more visited than his LinkedIn.

Maybe Google deserves some benefit of the doubt.
> That's not true. Go, Python, Ruby and Scala all have optional semicolons without insanity.

Python (and Haskell) solve that issue by not using semicolons unless required. The Dart code in the examples is full of semicolons, that makes it an "optional semicolons language" akin to javascript more than a "possible semicolons language" akin to Python or Ruby.