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No topic was ever changed - we all know Google is in this game to beat (or at least, take a significant minority share) of Facebook's traffic.

The number of users it gained need not be relevant to this goal - they need to gain the right users, and so far that's just not happening. They've won over the technorati, and puzzlingly enough, the photography community. But how many of your non-tech friends are actually on G+? Much less using it?

> ""How is this a success for Google+?""

For one thing, that wasn't me. But let's say it was. Your claim that traffic jumped by 5x is supposed to imply that this was a success for Google - but it's nothing of the sort. Without breaking into the mainstream, Google has no hope of capturing the type of market share, ever, that they are clearly after.

Google is not in this to build a niche social network for the techno-elite.

> "What's the bar now? Suddenly being #1"

What a ridiculous straw man. Nobody says G+ needs to be #1 overnight. But at least movement in the right direction (i.e., mainstream appeal) is necessary if one is to reasonably claim that G+ is succeeding. That's simply not happening.

> "I was just pointing out that you were playing the same game the newspaper was - asking a crazy question given the nearly five-times increase in traffic over a single month."

The newspaper asked a relevant question. Are we supposed to just blindly swallow any number and interpret it in the default manner? By your logic, Groupon is smashingly successful company with strong growth numbers - but we know it's not playing well into their end-game. Neither is this playing into G+'s desired endgame.
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Probably they are gaining power/wealth not proportional to their numbers in the society they live in. That happens easily when a close knit society works hard while trading, doing business among themselves (e.g. buying goods and services from in-group rather than outside when they can) as well as favor community members over others in the larger society. This probably creates hatred of the majority towards Jewish people and that hatred directed more at times of distress like economic hardship or wars.
I heard today that State of Alabama passed an immigration law recently that target immigrants. Probably people in Alabama do not want immigrants these days, since they are seen "stealing" jobs while jobs in US has been vanishing since 2008 economic crisis.
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I doubt donohoe wanted to put that in the headline, I think he is suggesting the tone of the headline doesn't accurately portray what happened.
"I told them about Steve’s speech to the Rhapsody team, and asked: 'Does eBay want BMW market share, or Toyota market share?' At the time, eBay was more than 20% of all e-commerce, and all plans oriented towards growing that market share."

Where does MBA's versus engineers ever come up? Jobs' speech is about creating a competitive advantage by building a premium product and focusing on a specific user - something eBay doesn't have the freedom to do.
And then there's two levels of competition past that I never made it to... just 1... damn... question... short...

I got a perfect score on the AIME in 1998, but they didn't let Canadians write the USAMO back then. :-(
> If Javascript is good enough as an IL why does Dart
> bypass it in Chrome?

Because they decided that it was easier to make up a new language than improve the V8 implementation of ECMAScript, as far as I can tell.

And at least locally, for Google, that may be true. Whether it's true for the web as a whole is unclear.

Other ECMAScript implementors seem to think that V8 is not nearly as fast as an ES implementation could be and are working on proving their claims with actual running code...
With apartheid in the back of their minds they should get their priorities straight.
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Yeah, I agree that saying "use 16px font-size" without mentioning at least the font family is completely useless.
This article completely misses the point. Hastings & Co. made a mistake. Yes. But they are learning and dealing with it way better than I would have imagined. At least they acknowledge a mistake and the CEO isn't egotistical enough to take the company down a wrong path (i.e. continue with split Netflix and Quikster) even if he believes it to be incorrect. Personally, I just gained new respect for Reed Hastings. Also, are we forgetting that this is also the man who was visionary enough to bring us legitimate Video on Demand when everyone thought online digital content either didn't matter or was restricted to pirated copies floating on the internet.

I personally see the Netflix case similar to the way Southwest Airlines hedged fuel prices to gain an advantage compared to other firms. When that advantage ended, it had to figure out a way to compete with the rest of the world, often times increasing prices or reducing service quality.
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Hotmail would probably have had to do the same. The guy chose Gmail over Hotmail so people should leave Gmail? That's horrible logic.
Another language to add to the Compiles-to-JavaScript list, Quby: http://www.playmycode.com/docs/quby

I wonder what the motivation here was. JavaScript (or perhaps CoffeeScript) makes a decent language for scripting games. Are the benefits worth the higher barrier to entry for the IDE?
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Conflating being Jewish with being upper-caste Indian is probably going (way) too far. Note that you're responding to an article that points to systematic historical Russian discrimination against Jews, that the posters above you have pointed out systematic historical American discrimination against Jews, and I think that systematic European discrimination against Jews doesn't need to be reiterated. In Muslim countries, Jews historically have been legally considered second-class citizens.

Feel free to conflate Jews with successful former lower caste Indians, though.
You're not wrong, sadly. See http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GBSGBbc9UtA/TmexwLaJN9I/AAAAAAAAAK... for a discovery document from a recent court case that indicates what Google's approach to things like this is nowadays.
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Ask HN: Steve Job Stories
I'm looking for personal accounts that have surfaced around the net in the past few dates.

Got any? Please post others that you've surely read/watched/listened to from around the internet.

I just really want to a understand the thought process that powered and made the man they called Steve Jobs.

======================================
http://john.jubjubs.net/2011/10/09/steve-jobs/
http://www.stephenfry.com/2011/10/06/steve-jobs/
http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/25/michael-dhuey-apple-engineer/

then there are:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394285,00.asp#fbid=TtIib3Ttzhx

http://venturebeat.com/2011/08/25/top-10-steve-jobs-resignation-reaction-stories/

=======================================

Rest assured, I'll be getting one of those biographies coming out in 14 days.
Wow. Reminds me of GWT...
While this is hilarious, it's exactly fair. Dart is still in a very early tech preview, and they clearly haven't optimised code generation yet.

Right now, it's probably designed to be run through something like Closure Compiler, which removes dead code and minimizes the output.
Hi, very helpful post. Thank you.

Something still puzzles me though. You wrote a sequence is unique to each table in each schema. However, your example seems to use the same sequence name for all tables within a schema.

Also, shouldn't your mod operation have only one %?

Thanks again!
I'll repeat what I said in the GitHub thread:

There's this interesting tool called Google Closure Compiler. It does dead code elimination. https://gist.github.com/1277285

Notice that this source is now 2000 lines of pretty printed JS. Given that anything interesting these days uses jQuery or Underscore.js clientside, and similar things serverside, this amount of JS for even Hello World is standard fare.

EDIT: To be clear, I don't really give two hoots about Dart ... yet. I use ClojureScript and since ClojureScript ships with a similarly rich API / data structure set, Google Closure Compiler is essential to keeping code size down.
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Yes it's complex, but one side wiped a million Tibetans of the map during 'the great leap forward' (along with another 39 million Chinese) and they label a man who in the face of that teaches non violence a 'terrorist'.
"commercial reality" appears to be "if we can make money from this then lets do it, and RFCs be damned". If we accept that ISPs can interpret RFCs any way they chose, then I propose a new interpretation of RFC 793 (TCP).

Specifically, whereas formerly the TCP protocol was a request for a connection between two computers, I am now going to interpret the four byte destination address as follows:

"Customer provides this information to us for use as we see fit. We may, if we so choose, route the packets to this address, or we may choose to route it somewhere else, including our own servers, or to a Value Added provider of our choice."

After all, consumers don't know about TCP do they? So its quite alright to define TCP as whatever the fuck we want, and therefore do, entirely legally, whatever we want with that "communication". Right? There's relatively little wrong with that right? I'm sure Google does a better job of search than your little start-up, so its in the customers best interest.

Same for all telephony traffic too. If we want to route it via the local gestapo we don't need a wiretap warrant for that: we just interpret RFC 3261 (Session Initiation Protocol) our own way. After all, who says these bytes arriving at our router have any meaning at all?
I'm sorry, but 2,300 lines of code is in no way acceptable as a "dead code"-eliminated Hello World program. Not by a longshot.
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Haha, you think it was that easy to emigrate from the USSR, especially for Jewish men and women? There's a reason people didn't, and it isn't because everyone thought they were better off staying.
Not at all. I'm saying if you want to make web apps that use JavaScript, write JavaScript.
I compiled that code with the google closure compiler. I used advanced optimisations for dead code removal.

The result is 94% smaller - 32k, or 9k gzipped. A 32k overhead could be absorbed by most large web applications without being noticed.

http://closure-compiler.appspot.com/code/jscd4ddca10c0a518fc...
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They obviously embed into the emitted javascript the whole Dart runtime. Whether it is needed or not.
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same code in coffeescript (@ preceding testMain makes it a static method and it looks like print in Dart converts to console.log)

class HelloCoffeeTest
@testMain: ->
console.log "Hello, Coffee!"

HelloCoffeeTest.testMain()

resulting js

var HelloCoffeeTest;
HelloCoffeeTest = (function() {
function HelloCoffeeTest() {}
HelloCoffeeTest.testMain = function() {
return console.log("Hello, Coffee!");
};
return HelloCoffeeTest;
})();

HelloCoffeeTest.testMain();
I'm not a lawyer but I believe it would be very difficult for an FBI prosecutor to raise a case to international status and get a foreign judge to issue a subpoena. Most countries are very protective of spying on their citizens or corporations.

I think the main danger of using a foreign host would be that the NSA has more spying leeway with international traffic so they probably will have already slurped and archived your mail off of the wire without needing to ask your mail host. SSL is supposed to help with that but I have my doubts that that stops the NSA if they want to target you.
Very good observation. I think it's metaphysical, unseen.

I found this interesting, if not alarming.

EXPOSE: The Vatican is Cozying Up to Iran's Ahmadinejad http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/1070...
Right, it is a good reason for leaving all US services, just singling out gmail would be unfair. Too bad so many major ones are hosted in the US (or at least by US companies). We really need a less centralized internet... Otherwise, when the US turns into a loony military dictatorship it takes us all with it.
What language do you program in where the dependencies are not as heavy as they are here? The only difference I can tell is that it's hidden from you.
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You are conflating issues.

Trying to find a 'moral high ground' by viewing history through a selective lens is never really productive.

The Chinese govt has brought a lot of 'good' to the Chinese (and Tibetan) people (despite very horrible mistakes, like the GLF, and military invasion of Tibet).
But they probably have the size and the market power that would make regulators take an interest in such behavior.
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Or do the above, and then delete the mail. Not with the intention of destroying evidence of course, but because your hard disk can only store 1024 megabytes and you want to save disk space.
Maybe Americans should use European hosts and Europeans can use American ones. Does anyone know of any good international webmail providers, with SSL?
It's not right now. It's a lousy CoffeeScript. The thing that makes dart good is that it could, some day, have it's own runtime. Also, the language is being designed by the team that did v8. So I'd imagine they plan to build support into chrome at some point.
Does CoffeeScript have all these data structures, http://www.dartlang.org/docs/api/index.html?
It would have been easy to write a less disingenuous headline. For example, "U.S. Compelled Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data."
For some people, including myself, it's both unproductive and not much interesting.
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The post he was responding too wasn't any kind of civil or even logical discussion. It just said his examples and analysis were borderline garbage with no justification.
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Ugh, not this again.

* The SGS II is shown as relatively larger than it actually is, compared to the iPhone.

* The SGS thumb circle is smaller.

The iPhone will always have a 3.5" screen because the 3:2 aspect ratio makes the phone unusably wide if you increase the diagonal by any marketable number. Those 4.3" Android phones run at a whopping 16:9, and are only slightly wider than the iPhone as a result (2.11" vs 1.94"). A 4.3" diagonal iPhone would be a behemoth 2.39" wide.

iPhones are locked to a 3:2 aspect ratio because apps are all designed with the promise of a 3:2 aspect ratio, and a different aspect ratio would break the layout of every single app in the app store today. Apple had to increase the resolution of their offering with the iPhone 4 to compete with the high-resolution Android handsets being released, but they had to increase it by an integer factor, or else applications would be blurry/laid out slightly wrong due to the pixel-oriented layouts iOS apps use, so they doubled the resolution, kept the screen size the same, and marketed the shit out of the resulting DPI.

The iPhone will always have a 3.5" screen because Apple has a tremendous amount of legacy software on the platform that would break in all the most un-Apple ways if they were to create a larger phone.

Here is an exactly to-scale comparison of the phones' screen sizes, done by yours truly: http://i.imgur.com/b7UI3.png

And for fun, here's a comparison of what a 4.3" iPhone screen would be like next to a current iPhone and the SGS II: http://i.imgur.com/du83N.png
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So you quoted part of the article to give more details to the headline. That is basically how the whole article/headline thing works.
Except, er, so since AIPAC has only be around since 1963 and the concept of Zionism over 100 years, that couldn't possibly be a reason why people have a problem with Jews? shrugs
> too much trouble to organize & maintain

I disagree. That's a solved problem. The App Store and Android Market both notify when there are updates and it's very painless to apply them.

The real problem is discovery. Apple and Google both set the precedent for crapware while building up their markets and it hasn't gotten any better. What we need is access to curated collections outside the respective app stores. This won't happen until Apple unbinds their iDevices from the App Store and Android goes a bit further.

> apps magically appearing on your phone

There is no way that anyone can make that sound at all reasonable. Security & privacy demand that, at a minimum, the user be allowed to reject the installation of a native app.

The privacy-destroying aspects of what he describes are beyond terrifying.
As I understand it, dart isn't trying to be a faster javascript. Its trying to be a better GWT.

Many googlers I've spoken to firmly believe that you need a strongly typed, OO language with good tooling to be able to develop any large application. They believe web apps are no exception.

Google has worked hard adding types to javascript with the closure compiler. But, there are limits to what you can achieve using javascript.

Comfortable programming in the large is the main value proposition of Dart. Expect to see good developer tools, debuggers, profilers and server-side runtime environments for Dart appearing over the next few years.

(Disclaimer: I don't share this view)
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Funny how few comments there are on this one. As much as MS isn't the hotness right now, this is a cool product to retroactively add third-party collaboration feature to a complex app. Hats off to you guys as that seems like an impressive feat for such a mature project.
I think budgets exist to solve that problem. When money comes from the people, it must go back to the people. But its seldom done that way.

In case of the US it went too over board. With tax payers money being used to supposedly bail out large corporation and banks. Instead that money went into paying Jets, paying bonuses and insane severance packages to executives.
Wow, I watched myself go from +3 to now -3

Either I made some sense (pointing out that AIPAC or Zionism could be a reason for hatred) or these guys just showed up in the thread:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Internet_Defense_Force

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_League
I can't understand why everyone commutes at the same time of day. It would be of HUGE economic benefit if office activities were evenly distributed around the clock (and the calendar). There would never be rush-hour traffic because people came and went at all hours. Your favorite public place or activity wouldn't be crowded Saturday afternoon, because it wouldn't be Saturday for 6/7 of the population.

Yes, there would be some large costs too, but the benefits are staggering.
I just compared my Droid X to my iPod Touch and don't see a large ergonomic advantage with the latter.
If all you use javascript for is console.log("Hello World"); then v8 will seem unnecessarily large too.

If all you do is one DOM transformation then jquery will seem huge compared to just doing it by hand (probably hundreds or thousands of lines of code vs 3).

I guess at this point I'm just repeating the OP, but this is simply in no way demonstrative of Dart. It can at best serve as a learning tool of the internals (and perhaps there are valid criticisms once you look at those), but any conclusion on code size is very flawed from this one example.
The other difference is that they are not transferred over wire (once if developers were careful or on every request if they were not).
Here's a nice article about Grigori Perelman, Fields medal winner, solver of the Poincare conjecture, and mathematical genius/recluse.

Perelman came up in the Soviet system in the 1980s, when the discriminatory practice you mention was in force:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/apr/29/he-conq...

Relevant quote:

"For a Jewish boy [sic] gifted in mathematics to be admitted to a university, there were three possibilities: hope you were one of the two Jews accepted at Leningrad University every year; go somewhere with less draconian admission policies; or make it onto the Soviet team for the International Mathematical Olympiad, which guaranteed admission to Leningrad University. Perelman decided to try out for the team."
Oh yeah, 2300 lines of gibberish JS and FSM only knows how many global variables and functions is a real improvement.

the original example should "compile" to nothing more than the following:

(function () {
window.HelloDartTest = {
testMain: function testMain() {
console.log("Hello, Darter!");
}
};

HelloDartTest.testMain();
})();
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