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I'm very surprised it's that low. From talking to guys here you'd think it's more like half.

Original source that they don't link to: http://www.yale.edu/oir/open/pdf_public/YC%2010%20Sr%20Study...

If you look at the original source, you'll find that 1) it's only 25% if you don't count Yalies who went to grad school, about a quarter of the class, and 2) there was a HUGE (50%) falloff from 2008 to 2010 due to the crash, so in 2010 it was more like 12-15%, not 25%.

(Yale senior here)
The solution to this is not to increase horn noise, but to simply pass a law that states that people can't sue for wrongful death at a train crossing due to lack of safety standards as long as it meets FRA regulations or whatever.

This sort of limiting has been done in other circumstances.
You will never solve this problem by changing the regulations, lawyers can always think up new things you should have done when they are paid to :)
I don't think using, say, 500ms worth of CPU is all that unusual of a need. If you try to do that with node.js, everything in your program will be blocked completely for 500ms. It doesn't make node.js useless, or 'cancer', but it is a real limitation.
To be honest, most of his blog posts seem to be inflammatory in nature with a cute picture at the top. I wouldn't be surprised if Ted wrote it merely to get blog views.
This isn't an apples to apples comparison, but according to the Prince, 41.5% of the graduating seniors my year (2008) "who had accepted full-time employment offers by graduation" were employed in the "financial sector" (http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2010/03/08/25465/).

Not an apples to apples comparison with the Yale article, but my reaction is still surprised that the number is that small at Yale.
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Maybe Yale should use that endowment to pay people to give back to society? In the end, people don't become bankers or consultants because they are looking for the easiest way to be a drain on society. They do it because society gives them a lot of money for doing it, and they have to pay off their $100,000 student loans and raise a family.
I didn't downvote you (I can't), and this is just a guess, but: Your post probably came off as more dismissive than you intended it.

I mean, Uzi Nissan (or someone on his behalf) legitimately bought the domain Nissan.com. Five years later, the car company sues him. After the slight, he decides to not budge, and now, twelve years later, "eh, just sell it to them" seems a serious understatement of affairs.

"Stubbornness"? Yeah probably. But after more than a decade? There's no way "pay for it" hasn't been considered, and fought over.
I had the pleasure of missing Ted's original post. I read it before this one, and it was pretty misinformed. I could write a similar article arguing that assembly is useless because it takes so much code to implement a web server using it.

If your server runs in a single thread AND you do expensive calculations per request, you're doing it wrong. You should be caching results, and you need to either move the processing work to a backend server (written in C or something) or shard the frontend across a lot of cores (multiple processes / webworkers). In any of these configurations, nodejs will work great on the front end.

But, most of Ted's post was needless bile. The argument he made isn't justified by the evidence he gave. Don't bother trying to argue with him, its not worth your time.
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By the sound of the endowment numbers, they've found a pretty good way to give back
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Not at all, he mentions the announcement and includes the link in the article.
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I'd really like an explanation of how, if you push down on the track at a point, you are not bending the track down at that point, sprung or not. Move that point along the track, and you create a standing wave, sprung or not. The amplitude of that wave will be proportional to the total weight.
These are a few in my bookmarks:

Quick-R
http://www.statmethods.net/index.html

R for Programmers
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/R_Programming

SurviveR
http://www.win-vector.com/blog/2009/09/survive-r/

Official intro
http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/R-intro.html

Might depend on your definition of accessible LOL

Stack Overflow also very helpful -
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/r

Rseek
http://www.rseek.org/

R-Help
http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/R-help-f789696.html
Their initial offer was $150. I said no, that I had put way too much money into it for that low of a price. They came back with $250.

Anyone who's bickering about $150 vs $250 to acquire a domain is not a "big corporation". The OP is being bluffed.
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I'm anxious to hear more details about Silk but from what I understand so far, the protocol between the device and the backend EC2 servers is SPDY (http://www.chromium.org/spdy/spdy-protocol) or something pretty similar.

SPDY is a transport protocol, basically an improvement over HTTP to avoid the latencies associated with opening and closing many TCP sessions in order to render a single web page.

This approach also allows Amazon to maintain a huge local web cache including predictive pre-fetching. As many people have pointed out this stuff isn't 'new' other than perhaps the scale at which Amazon operates compared to existing systems.

I don't think any of this is going to change the computational requirements at the device for handling client-side processing (i.e. Javascript), which is what the author seems to suggest.
I couldn't be happier, I'm standing up late starting the research for my playlist generation thesis.

All hail recommender systems and the internet serendipity.
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Ironically, at work we buy a bunch of BLS datasets from a third-party vendor. Their format is even worse: an opaque binary database and a win32 DLL that reads it. 1000 lines of Haskell later, it sort of works...

(This is mostly because they chose to represent dates as integers, and they have four possible date types: yearly, quarterly, monthly, and daily. 1901, in their exciting world, could mean "year 1901" or it could mean "month January 1919". That's nice work, Lou.)
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Good read. Fund raising exp by an Indian entrepreneur (2010 article).
I would never do that. Domain squatters squat just waiting for someone to come around and ask for the domain, that's why they buy them in the first place, and then they try to sell at exorbitant rates ($15k-$20k in my experience). Doubtless some companies pay that, which makes squatting profitable.

If you express interest in a domain name, the squatter knows they should renew it forever because at some point when your company makes more money or whatever you'll buy them out for the asking price or something pretty close to it. If you don't express interest and no one else does either, and traffic is minimal, the squatter will drop the domain as unprofitable (no money from the ads on the parking page, no interested buyers = unprofitable domain).
Restrictive covenants were not rare, especially in the post-war suburbs. The first modern suburb, Levittown, NY, was racially segregated. It wasn't called 'white flight' because the people fleeing the inner city wanted to live with blacks. Restrictive covenants didn't end up the Supreme Court because no one was interested in enforcing them.
There are nodejs web worker implementations to help with that kind of problem:

https://github.com/pgriess/node-webworker

If you use webworkers for cpu-intensive tasks (like fib), nodejs will perform just as well as all the other web frameworks out there.
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I'm sure in a public facing forum, no CEO would say, "I don't want to know about HR destroying our brand in the eyes of potential hires." But, for practicality purposes, the CEO has finite time and an abundance of things to do.

I could see sending your interview process horror story to a startup CEO and them not even read the email or it not being so bad that it makes the list of action items worth addressing. On any given day, where you are trying to meet operational goals, keep morale high, balance board / adviser obligations, raise that next round, give face-time to existing customers / while spending time closing new customers, making nice with the press, speaking at that conference and so forth...there's always 20 other things that need to be addressed today. After all, that is what you have a head of HR for, right?

How many CEOs have gotten that type of negative feedback and gotten directly involved? That's probably a better question to ask.
I don't understand why those three things you listed would make a good developer. Who doesn't like new things? I want to find the person who sticks with the old thing, even after the shine has worn off. Everyone loves to code the prototype. And if you tell most devs they get to code the prototype and learn a new language at the same time they'd jump at it. In grad school, with every project I used a new language -- why? Because it's fun. But that doesn't make a good dev.

Again, I've never met anyone who is afraid to experiment. But I've met people who don't know when it makes sense to experiement.

And again, the problem I've had with programmers has never been because they don't enjoy a challenge. In fact, I'd say quite the opposite. I'd like to see more devs say early on that something looks difficult, and could use some mentoring or help on it.

I guess I'm just saying that this says almost nothing about the quality of the developer.
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there are certain languages that the elite programmers tend to flock to, because they spend more time looking out for new, good things that the average person

I think that's a very subjective thing to attach "elite" to. I see a lot of people jumping between languages who are ahead of the curve, but nowhere near anything I would call "elite". At the same time, some of the most "elite" programmers I've seen have been doing things like the same old embedded programming for X years, getting really, really good at it.
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Cool. Are you planning to do something with the map?
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A billion front-end calculations to display a webpage sounds like a hell of a lot to me. If that is common, then you can only do 2 reqs/sec/core either threaded or evented. (point 1).

If the 500ms request is rare, then occasionally some requests will be delayed vs a threaded setup. Keep in mind, that V8 is about 1 order of magnitude faster than CPython/PHP.
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Slickedit has been around an awful long time. It's always looked like a very professional product, but it gets no love in fora like this. Anyone know why ?
There's going to be at least one identifiable group that is the "cutting edge", and they are going to have certain characteristics or tastes or whatever that will tend to separate them from the not-cutting-edge folk.

The problem is that there's no evidence at all that it's language which is the characteristic function. Looking at most of the devs that I truly respect and admire, few if any, are the ones that spend a lot of time with cutting edge languages. And most people I know who are famous devs that use cutting edge languages, are famous for using, writing about, or developing cutting edge langauges.
It's a troll article, but I'd like to point out that the "UNIX way" is alive and well in node.js. I spawn new processes to do heavy lifting (e.g. thumbnailing, hashing files) all the time. I put jobs into queues in redis and handle them in other node processes. Obviously in co-operative multitasking it's wrong to block the rest of the server.
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In related news, donkeys are better than magical unicorns.

(or perhaps "Wolfenstein 3D is better than Duke Nukem Forever"?)
Perhaps we're working on different definitions here, but here's an anecdote of what merit-based education can do for everyone.

My friend was diagnosed with multiple learning disabilities as a child, and attended a school for people like him. Classes were small, teachers understood and he learned how to write and do math as well as an ordinary person- great results for someone with his long list of disabilities.

On the other hand, I aced an exam to go to a very selective school. Teachers pushed every kid there to do their best, and I learned how to speak, write, debate, program and do math at a level far beyond what I would have otherwise. Sure, I would have come out of my high school years knowing a lot about math no matter what school I attended, but I wouldn't have learned anything about how one should speak or debate, nor would I have learned how to write well.

I think that's the way to go- push kids as far as they can go. This is a lot easier when teachers know how far they can push, which is where results- based stratification ( something I, at least, consider synonymous to merit-based) comes in.
I don't know. My own educational experience? it was a waste of time and money. I stuck with it through highschool graduation then got a .com job (that 'required' a college degree) right away. I'd be measurably more wealthy now if I had left when I passed the equivalence test a year and a half earlier and worked another year during the boom. (I graduated and got my first .com job in '97-'98, so I didn't have long to grow into a position that would last me through the crash. I mean, I made it, but judging from how my salary was going before and after the .com, I'd have entered the crash with another ten grand a year in salary, which would help, 'cause I stayed employed, but my wages didn't move at all for a few years after the crash.)

So yeah, I feel like I got negative value out of my public school experience. But, my mother was a teacher; and she taught me to read and supplied me with books. Without reading as much as I did? I would have gotten nowhere. My dad? mid-level IT manager. My step dad? a computer programmer. I had access to computers from the age of three, programming environments, and parents who would help me learn about that shit.

My experience would indicate that the children of people who don't have valuable skills to pass on to their children would benefit much more from a public school "education" than I could.
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It's not OK to falsify records in order to get into a better school without paying extra; look at the original post, that's what the argument was about. Taking a subsequent phrase out of context and stretching it to bring in baby killing is not exactly adding to the conversation.
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I was mostly with you till that Canada/Minnesota comment. Perhaps Minnesota is exceptionally diverse...

Because Canada is very definitely more diverse than the US.
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So I say that even a notoriously difficult language like Haskell is only difficult because you haven’t learned it yet.

Can't say I agree with this. Haskell embodies a lot of fairly advanced and much more formally rigorous concepts than most programming languages. It may be that there's a corresponding payoff in concision or correctness but Haskell has this reputation for a reason.
New versions? Good, I like those. But I expect those. An on-schedule biannual release is not worth an actual fuss, even if it's only a week away.

This site is a big dollop of hype. Should I expect anything to back it up?
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Really, corruption is the norm in China. More so than the rest of the world? Have any evidence of that? that isn't anti-china agg-prop?

Business is clearly done differently in china, and there is a lot of protectionism, but that is not unique to China, I am curious why it is called out so much?
I was following the essay just fine until the paragraph on clojure. What's it doing there exactly? Is he saying there are no 'elite' programming languages -- except Clojure?
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Yuck. I know you meant that with the best intentions but your comment came out really snobby.

Are finance and consulting valuable fields or should they just be abolished altogether? Given how some of these people are paid, one can at least say that it is valuable from a monetary point of view. If these fields are indeed valuable, then who should fill the positions if not Yalies? Should state school students fill those roles because it is not beneath them to make a lot of money?

A field is either worthy or unworthy of a person's time. There's no need to say it's unworthy of a Yalie's time. To say that and then follow it with how blessed and lucky you are, makes people think you think Yalies should aspire to some higher standard that others don't have to. It's kind of arrogant.

At the end of the day, even Yalies have to eat and satisfy their material needs. It's silly to think that they're somehow immune to the desires most humans have. The Yale admission process doesn't filter out applicants based on that. It does optimize for high achievement and ambition. Given that, why would anyone really expect Yalies to avoid careers that are financially rewarding and, until recently, quite prestigious?

-Yale Alum in tech
I think the post somewhat misses the point of "elite languages" by denying their existence in teh first sentence. To see the absurdity of the claim, reword the argument thus:

"There are no clubs that will make you “elite”. In fact, there are no “elite” clubs."

But, of course this is not true, there are clubs for which membership shows eliteness. This is not a physical property, it is agreed upon by the relative strata of society.

Similarly, there definitely are elite languages, i.e. ones for which understanding and use confers some sort of eliteness to the programmer. This is different from being a good (or great) programmer, so the examples of great programmers he's known is irrelevant. Eliteness, to me, is not the same as coolness or the next big thing either, i.e. for most people Lisp (or a dialect, say, Scheme) is elite although it's old.
They do in many ways, at least indirectly.

One possible outlet we discussed for encouraging students to forgo careers in banking and consulting was financial aid. Suppose Yale instituted a policy that accepting financial aid required an agreement to forgo consulting and banking positions for at least 2 years after graduation. This would decrease the number of students who choose such careers "just because." Other students who intend to go into such careers would surely be drawn away to other fields during the waiting period. Of course, those who do not qualify for financial aid, and those who can afford to deny the aid they are offered, would not be affected by such a measure. This would warrant a consideration of whether the class divide on post-graduation freedom is undesirable. Then again, I don't think it would be unreasonable for Yale to say: "We are offering you the opportunity of a lifetime, an education at an amazing school you would otherwise not be able to afford. The only condition is that you must do something productive with it."

There's also the possibility of positive reinforcement as opposed to the negative scenarios outlined above. What if Yale offered additional financial aid to those who agreed to teach/do research/pursue charitable work for two years after graduation?
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I like how every rebuttal turns into "how fast can you compute a fibonacci number". I was looking for a function that burned a nontrivial amount of CPU, the choice of fibonacci was arbitrary. Let's move on from that.

What I was showing was that if your request handler does a nontrivial amount of CPU work, it will hold up the event loop and kill any "scalability" you think you're getting from Node.

If you Node guys were really that irritated by this, you're going to be super pissed when you learn how computers work.

I ain't even mad.
Oh, to be sure. Almost everyone would enjoy a nice relaxing drive along a beautiful road. The only problem is for most places in the world, we'd need either a whole lot more beautiful roads, or a whole lot less people.
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I now run a startup (http://getliveloop.com) but started out of college with 2 years at McKinsey. I can't compare it against anything else as a job right out of college, but I learned a lot about various types of businesses, how to communicate to executives, and the general polish that I needed to get from MIT to a fundraising meeting on Sand Hill Road. I also got to work and live for a few months in 9 different cities around the world, which gave me a great perspective on what I care and don't care about in terms of where I live, where I work, and who I associate with.

I found it very useful to me, I didn't have to come up with convoluted justifications for why I did it, and I'd do it again if I was in a similar situation.
My personal experience is consistent with the simple fact-based reasoning that I laid out. I may give this book a read though. The missing factor that many people seem to miss is that exercise is a bigger factor in health than diet, and you can't exercise effectively (at least endurance exercise) without carbohydrates.
If the only justification for doing something illegal is that sometime during WW2 someone might have had to do something similar in order to escape Hitler, I'd say that's a pretty weak justification. The continuum you suggest does exist, but it's a very lopsided distribution in this case.
Well said. A lot of people on HN (including PG) like to diss Java as some backward corporate language. The fact that you can run Lisp on the JVM (clojure) shows that such criticisms are shallow.

Lisp may be superior to Blub. But if Blub has excellent libraries X,Y, and Z that make solving your problem a lot easier, using Lisp may be a no-go - unless you can interoperate with Blub code from Lisp -- something that a virtual machine like the JVM makes very easy without having to write bindings.
What are they about then?

Is there more democracy? No.

Are there more freedoms? No.

Is there less money? Yes.

What's this movement about?

People are losing jobs, the lower-socio economic groups are the first to feel this. Students are among them, and they are also the most 'active' (in activist sense), and thus we hear about it.

If the world was flush with cash and countries were all in massive surplus, would we still have these protests? I don't think we would.