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I wish I had more upvotes for this post. We are so busy debating the effects on banks loaning to each other that we sometimes ignore the responsible people here. The responsible way to buy a house is to save for it. The realistic way is to save a substantial portion and get a fixed-rate loan that you can definitely afford. It will never be impossible to get such a loan from a standard "Home Loan & Savings" bank, because savings accounts can support such loans (provided, of course, that people are saving, but I believe I established this with the "save a substantial portion" part).

Making low-rate-variable-interest credit less attainable is not a problem, it's a solution to our current problem that has everyone living beyond their means, with an unfathomable percentage of their earnings going to creditors.
How is Disney a swear word? It churns out a lot of popular crap and it has Pixar making probably the best movies out there now. Steve Jobs made it company policy not to release "direct-to-DVD sequels". Remember that? Without that, Disney quality jumped a LOT (which, I know, just says how awful they HAD been). Meanwhile, they've reinstated their 2D animation department, which is BIG fun news and which might bring back the good old Disney.

Why should we criticize them for making weapons components or for owning Disney? That has nothing to do with their products.
too bad that the 200 person line clubs are rarely worth going to anyways, unless you derive your utility from the actual act of getting in where they cannot (it seems as though you do)
>Minor errors that in bulkier languages are caught by the compiler, become logic errors in a Lisp

doesn't that apply to any less static -> more static typed language comparison?
I also did miranda (was my first programming language).

My understanding at the time was that it was only intended for research, and as it was pure, there was no way (at the time ) to do real IO - your program was essentially f(user input as string) = output as a string, and not practical enough.

Since that time they worked out how to use Monads in haskell for a nicer IO experience.

Interesting.
In only have a tiny bit of experience with monads (in haskell) but I would say it may be more pain to wrap your head around the maths, but much much less to use and trust. Pointers I would say are the opposite.
Home/business loans made by a savings bank are subject to the reserve requirements. If these loans turn out to be bad and cause bank insolvency, the amount isn't huge because we're dealing with first-order numbers mostly backed by collateral. When the FDIC steps in to repay depositors, no money is lost (besides the bank's investors).
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They practically later defined that market.
"... As a 20-something geek I was surprised to read how virtually every place accepted the bribe in one way or another. It really contradicts my low confidence + true/false mentality ..."

The downside of this approach is the associated psychology. If you give out bribes there is possibility bribery can also be used against you. So be careful how you deal with this kind of activity. Don't be surprised if the people you bribe try it back on yourself.
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Unfortunately, it goes with the territory.

But, if you believe in your work and you hear positive, the positive is your audience. Work for your audience ... don't dismiss the negative if such is constructive feedback you can use to make a better product.

Just think how many people hated on various businesses (myspace, twitter come to mind) and yet they became wildly successful!

Keep your head up!
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But there is probably some overlap in the anti-java, anti-silverlight, and anti-flash groups
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Okay, I hoped that's what you meant, and not that savings banks should not be allowed to invest or loan money at all.
This is beyond cool. I wonder how Team Cringley are doing: http://www.teamcringely.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Last I heard they were abandoning the X Price. I still think they had a pretty cool idea though: Screw sending one (expensive - relatively) rocket, send 10 cheap ones (launched of a fighter jet - wonder if the payload capacity is big enough) and hope 1 makes it.

Fault tolerance at it's finest. Sort of the Google approach.

Anyways. Should have done aeronautics at school :-)
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You'll never satisfy everyone, don't discount good criticism that also gives you solution, do discount the "meh it sucks" criticism
All these steps helped me to find Paul Graham (paulgraham.com). Obviously it wasn't knowing anything about Zen Habits nor the startup concept. So now I'm here on Hacker News doing what I love.
One of the very noticeable things I've observed, and I'm sure someone else has already blogged about this, is that if you're doing something "new" people will hate on it because it can't be done... but if you're doing something that sounds like it's already been "done", you'll get hated on because you shouldn't bother doing it.

Really it boils down to being able to differentiate hater-ade from constructive criticism.
The Problem of a Lack of Downvoting.
Recently, I've noticed that a lot of the articles reaching the frontpage of HN, and often the top thereof, were flamebait/troll blog posts, off-topic (e.g. politics), or whatever. But moreso, the majority of posters in the comments often agreed that the article was junk! As such, one wonders, how in the world did the article rise to the top?

The problem is that when you don't allow downvoting, while it prevents the problem on sites like Reddit and Digg of "organized downvotes" and hivemind downvoting of disagreeing views, it also means that something's score depends solely on the number of upvotes. So, if you post something extremely controversial that doesn't belong on HN, it can get more upvotes that most other posts. Why is this? Here's an example (let's say HN has 1000 readers, for simple math):

Let's say you post Article A, a politics piece railing against, say... Nancy Pelosi. Lots of people are going to look at it, since its controversial, and everyone has an opinion. Let's say 50% of HN readers look at it, and 20% of those upvote it, and 60% of those would have wanted to downvote it. With downvotes, the article would have been buried quickly. But this article gets 100 upvotes and quickly flies to the top.

Now, let's say you post a very interesting article on creative use of assembly, Article B. Not nearly as many people will look at it--let's say 10% of readers. And let's say 40% of those upvote it, and 10% of those would have downvoted it if they could. The article only gets 40 upvotes, despite being much better and more on-topic HN content.

It seems to me to be much like the classic "color of the bikeshed" issue; if its something everyone has an opinion about, it gets voted up even if the majority of people think the link is junk or offtopic.

Now, my question is--how can this problem be resolved without reintroducing the problem of downvotes?
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You have to approach it objectively, not personally. You have to have the determination and perseverance to take some flak and keep going. And you need to be open to changing your idea if you realise the criticism is justified.
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This article and every comment is missing the point almost completely.

Success is measured by how hard your willing to work to complete your dreams and how much of that hard work you actually do.

So if the man who owns the small hardware shop dream was to own a small hardware shop and live a simple life then he got there and if hes happy hes successful. Maybe he had dreams of something more but was unwilling to put the time in.

The home depot guy put the time in and worked his butt off to build his dream.

The same applies to startups. You guys can have Ideas, 4.0s and 39 act scores but if you don't put the time necessary to achieve your dreams you will never, EVER get there.

Success is how happy you are. Nobody can measure it and its different for every person. The best definination I can think for success is how happy the person is, in other words the goal of life is to be happy.

Also remember to achieve big dreams you need to give up BIG TIME. If anyone here has read East of Eden by John Steinbeck he visits these exact ideas. Its lonely at the top.
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Disney is typically cited as a major force behind the never-ending extension of copyright (the famous 'keep mickey out of the public domain' strategy). Disney has also put considerable resources into lobbying for ever-more-oppressive legal measures such as mandatory DRM hardware in computers. They are no friend of the typical hacker. Steve Jobs, as a major shareholder and board member, could influence this if he so chose. Apple also chose to continue its weapons-grade product lines when it purchased PA Semi. Maybe they have a contract they can't get out of, but they may well have had the choice to shut down or spin off those products.

You can agree or not with those arguments, I'm not advocating for or against them. They don't affect my purchasing decisions (the best tool for the job in my current circumstances is a MacBook Pro so that's what I have). I make my living working for banks that no doubt finance far worse things. If Disney returns to form animation-wise I'll reward them with movie ticket purchases. It just seems to me that all the people posting "Apple is finally evil" linkbait nonsense could choose meatier targets than mistakes in developer relations, and the fact they choose not to means they're not even any good at being wrong.

It's crappy linkbait blog post pollution that irritates me, not anything that Apple's doing.
Seems like they are getting things back on track piece by piece. Hopefully this is one of the final major steps.
So you would rather argue politics then.
>attitude of Indian developers towards contributing to open source projects

Huh? I know plenty of Indian open source developers (myself included)
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It might help to prioritize the feedback by the individual's credibility. In the end, go with your gut.
You've got this backwards: 'deal' with praise, use criticism.
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For every person your product is right for, there's going to be a ton of people your product /isn't/ right for. The people who it isn't right for can have two reactions. They can be indifferent, or they can be critical.

If they're indifferent, so be it.

Being critical is a different ball game altogether. It either means that they like it but want changes, or they have some sort of grudge against the concept, or they want you to be working on something else. You can safely discard the last two types of criticism.

The first type "they like it, but it's not perfect" is the group to actually listen to. Can you fix what they don't like about the product without diluting your vision of what it is? If not, do they have a better vision for your product that you might incorporate? No? Then don't worry about it, this isn't your audience talking.
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There was a site mentioned here in the last month that was something of a site like wikibooks. I remember it was mentioned as having especially good resources on electrical engineering. Anyone have any ideas what this site might be?

Thanks.
Post a link to NonHackerNews.com at the top? j/k.

But seriously, it can't unless the number of participating people who think it's off-topic outweighs the number of participating people who think otherwise. Or some form of modertion (possibly automated) happens. And even with downvotes, it might not change much. The off-topic crowd might just start downvoting the on-topic crowd in retribution. Same with the flag link, if there were trolls who really cared, they could just flag everything and make it less useful.
Since no one seems to have mentioned leverage and credit default swaps, here's the first summary I could find: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/04/credit-default-swaps-...

There are many better if anyone cares to look; the mortgages defaulting lend themselves to a house of cards analogy. Banks were so heavily leveraged that they may not even be able to handle even a small number of defaulting loans on property that decreased in value.
TinEye is impressive.

Also nice is TinEye mobile. Amazing. Take a picture of a CD and it instantly pulls up the iTunes store page where you can buy+listen to samples.
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A similar low cost open source hardware platform that appears to have traction is the arduino:

http://www.arduino.cc/
"Maybe they have a contract they can't get out of"

It really does pay to inform yourself before ranting. Worst case, you spent some time but your argument becomes more clear. Best case, you prevent yourself saying something uninformed and untrue.

In this case, yes, Apple tried to close the military product line, and the US military strongly insisted that PA Semi continue producing their existing military products.
This looks pretty cool!

I could never decide how to feel about the "How to Design ____" pedagogy.

On one hand, I envy people whose first exposure to programming was with Scheme, and there's a lovely sort of zen to the way the lessons build on each other that's refreshing.

But, having endured it myself at Northeastern, there's a sort of subtle arrogance and disrespect for the student that seeps out from time to time. If the authors and instructors could be more transparent on why things are taught the way they are as well as the broader context of the lessons, it would be much more effective.
Incredible!

The argument made is that these companies a recession proof because they don't make any money?

In a bizarre way it makes sense. Can't affect your income if you don't have any income. It'll be hard for newer startups to get funding (perhaps) so the barrier to entry for competitors grows.

Works as long as they don't hit a wall before things recover.
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Is it? It looks similar.
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Good article. This article demonstrates why at some point in a CS course, people need to write their own compiler. So that the points made in the article are largely obvious.
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Does anyone else here think GNIP has SERIOUS potential. The way to go for web services is real time updates. If GNIP is the central hub for that, the API producers (ie- twitter) win big time and the consumers (ie- startups who want to use twitter api) win. I'd easily pay for this.
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It is not necessary to use open source software to be able to protect your data (provided the applications have an API or some method of exporting your data in a parsable format). It's also not difficult to build your own secure, replicable network in the Cloud. Get a Linode and a Slicehost, install a Notes server on them both, keep your data locally and in two secure, encrypted automated backups in the Cloud. Whenever you don't have access to your local Notes, you can even have elected to make all or just portions of your data available via a browser and https.

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Forgot to mention, total cost for the Notes client and server licenses: about $150 for 1 user but any number of servers. And Notes will run on Windows, Linux, OS X, ...
That within a year you've become extremely proficient with a non-trivial, math-heavy video compression standard says a lot for your baseline intelligence. Congratulations for sticking at it, although I doubt most of us in the lower 95% could have done the same! :)
Change the links so they're redirects from the HN app, count the number of clicks and factor that into the ordering. Instead of putting most votes on top, put highest votes per click on top.

Sure, it's easy to game the system - but if someone wants to break something they'll do it one way or the other anyway.
I completely agree. The biggest hole I've found so far is they don't have a list of current providers... am I missing something?
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OK, that is WAY too funny on at least three levels and deserves it's own comment.
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I doubt most people on HN are in the lower 95% ;)

I'd say its more a matter of dedication and the sheer amount of time I've spent on it, plus the fact that I was able to skip a whole lot of it by basing my earlier insights off those of others rather than trying the (utterly hopeless) strategy of learning it all myself from the spec.

I'd also say the "math-heavy" is rather exaggerating it; the entire spec has not an ounce of math in it. All the numerical computations are written in pseudocode, not formulas; its basically written as if a computer was reading it instead of a human. Personally I have found this to be a rather terrible attribute, as it makes some of it nearly completely incomprehensible.

I also find this approach is often the kind of thing that leads people to assume they cannot do something; they think that only "really smart" people can possibly do some particular thing, and refuse to try as a result. Of course, it can also go the other way--because someone does something hard, they insist that they must be really smart, or else they couldn't have done it. This only reinforces the problem.

There also seems to be the rather misleading assumption that younger people are somehow less smart on average, and thus if a younger person does something hard, they must be even smarter than they would be assumed to be otherwise. I find this to be completely false; I don't think I've gotten one ounce better at math than I was in middle school, for example. People get more experienced, wiser and more knowledgeable, but I don't think they get much smarter.

Though, ironically, I don't actually think I am that smart; if grades are any indication, my last semester is clear proof that I'm not ;)
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If you're worried about the signal-to-noise ratio, then I suggest you don't post things that have been posted and discussed about a gazillion times before, as this too is cluttering up the main page.

You don't have to like every single article on the main page. Hacker News wasn't made just for you. If people upvote, then clearly they disagree with you on the article. Disagreement is ok, even necessary for a useful discussion.

If you've read all the articles on the main page then I suggest you either read old threads on the topic of downvoting or just spend your time more productively by doing something creative rather than complain.
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I'm in complete agreement.
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"Think about it: If there were a Flash player for the iPhone, you could write games and other software in Flash rather than in Cocoa Touch. And you could sell games and apps directly for the Flash player, completely circumventing the App Store. Does this sound like something Apple would allow?"

But...

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Apple’s Published APIs and built-in interpreter(s).

Built-in interpreter(s), eh? Maybe something like the JavaScript interpreter in MobileSafari?

I see a loophole. Of course that doesn't matter since Apple seems perfectly willing to reject apps they don't like for arbitrary reasons.
The best way to deal with criticism or praise is to have it refined into something you can actually use. I would suggest asking someone to take the good and bad things people tell you and summarize it objectively. Then find someone else with perhiperal involvement in your effort monitor what you do over time and tell you how their observations compare with the ones from the summary.
It's improved, the entire look has not been redone -- obviously there's no point in throwing out the good bits :D
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It's got the website I made in high school, but the Internet Archive only has the text of the main page, no images :(

I wish they had my very first "webpage" from elementary school, which was just one of those AltaVista or GeoCities things where you fill out a form (basically the predecessor of social network "profiles", without the network)
They like it but it's not perfect can also be used as a strategy for avoiding saying they don't like it. "I'd use it if it had one more feature...".

Listen ONLY to users who login regularly and plead for features.
I don't agree, but I understand the argument now. Thanks for the response!
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Either get ready to spend money doing traditional advertising, or go blackhat.

"Going viral" is a myth. The majority of the spontaneous viral hits in the past few years have been carefully planned and executed. Stories get to the Digg front page mostly through coordinated armies of professional Diggers or extensive friend networks. Bloggers take money for undisclosed paid reviews. And don't get me started on email marketing :)

I know because I've had a hand in all of that stuff. I've done it, and it works.

So, you are faced with a choice: whitehat or blackhat?
Whitehat, start doing some traditional marketing- do some basic market segmentation, see what your competitors are doing, target "customers" etc, and then start buying ads- links, paid search, etc or else promoting on the sites your target market uses.

Blackhat, do blackhat SEO- spam blogs/forums, get links, cloak, etc.

Of course, a simple web app may not merit such extensive investment of time and effort, but the difference between a web app and a funded startup is fuzzy at best.
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Definitely, I'm super excited about what these guys are doing and where this might go. I think even more important than real time updates will be the ability to aggregate massive amounts of user data across different APIs, and mine it.