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about Brad Pitt, but after some real-time analysis, it
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This is like Michael Frayn's first comic novel "The Tin Men" (1965), about programming a computer to produce an "automated newspaper".

"But people really preferred an air crash. ... What
people enjoyed most was about 70 dead, with some 20
survivors including children rescued after at least
one night in open boats. They liked it to be backed
up with a story about a middle-aged housewife who had
been booked to fly aboard the plane but who had
changed her mind at the last moment."
sad times. The demo video looks polished and functional. The online gradebook situation reminds me of day planners and other organizational tools that look handy (and can be) but in reality take a lot of dedication and time to keep using them.
grammar less important than humour? ;) Thanks, will fix as soon as we find out who has the password...
> Nearly every major company's board is full of people who have more-than-full-time day jobs, plus sit on 3-5 other boards.

Considering the pay for BoD members: They should be fired by the shareholders and replaced.
It'd be interesting to look at relative code quality vs. size on a per-language basis. Some languages take a whole lot less boilerplate to accomplish the same thing.
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What's a "luxury" car? What's wrong with an $11k Hyundai?

What's a "designer" suit? What's wrong with $50 Walmart-brand?

What's a "classy" watch? What's wrong with a $10 Casio?

What's a "perfectly cooked" steak? What's wrong with an $8 Denny's one?

What's a "sleek" laptop? What's wrong with a $300 Dell?

You could essentially use your line of logic to make any purchase of a product bought on qualities more than just practicality look absurd.

We all enjoy looking for that one thing of great quality. Apple is evidence enough. And what's it to you if I like to spend a little extra on a great looking pen? You've certainly paid a bit more for things because they "felt or looked better".
> 'making some smart...acquisitions...along the way'

And some profoundly stupid ones, like Skype. I think Ebay ended up turning a profit on Skype in the end (under John Donahoe, the current CEO), but that doesn't mean that it ever made any sense.
Yea, I'm pretty optomistic for it. Amazon doesn't have the romantic Apple image and their rounded corners, but they do seem to have remarkable savvy.
I think jinni.com had commoditized this.
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The issue is that budget size requires more code, (eg. if you have a budget you need to spend it), and spending it requires hiring programmers. You can't take on a $10 million dollar project and tell people you're hiring 4 programmers and that the project will be done in a few months. You need to hire 100 programmers and tell people it will take a year.

Basically, it's a symptom of the idea that work expands to fill time, agile works IMHO because it avoids spending time that doesn't need to be spent.
"In fact I have a totally untested hypothesis that agile \"works\" because it's mostly applied by small teams to small projects."

I think that agile works more as an interface and contract helper between customer and supplier. A few years ago it was very difficult to convince a customer to follow the iterative way. The customer just wanted all the features in time.
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The number of edges in a complete graph is n*(n - 1)/2, so by that metric it would be quadratic.
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> So, HN: what are these studies?

If you have access to the publication libraries of the ACM and IEEE, you'll find that they publish most of this literature.

(It costs money for both, unfortunately).

> My second question is about how to measure code size. PG said a few years ago: why not just count tokens?

Some schemes do so, it depends on how you define "SLOC". The classic problem is if-thens.

How many lines is this?

if ( foo ) then bar else baz

Or this?

if ( foo )
then bar
else baz

Or this?

if ( foo ) then
bar
else
baz

In the literature you'll see a distinction between "physical" lines of code and "logical" lines of code. The latter is close to token-based.

> So: what's wrong with token count as a measurement of code size?

I vaguely recall that some properties correlate with physical lines and others with logical. I can't recall what and which, sorry.
> humanizing what might otherwise seem like utter fraud

Most of your list can just be filed under "unscrupulous and untrustworthy". No need to make excuses for Han Chinese characteristics.
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“The No. 1 thing consumers do on tablets is e-mail,” said Sarah Rotman Epps, a Forrester analyst. “The No. 2 thing is look up stuff on the Web...."

Apple loves to tout sales numbers for the app store but this jibes with my own experience. It's nice to have a healthy stock of third-party apps to choose from but if your core email, web, & fb/twitter apps are solid you're 90% there for most users and can start chopping secondary features and specs to undercut the iPad.
I actually think raw byte-count is a pretty good metric. Documentation size and variable name length are also symptoms of complexity. Specifically I think wc -c $(find -type f) (how many total bytes) and find -type f | wc -c (how many files and directories) make good metrics. Obviously you need to filter out data files and such.

This has some problems (e.g. spaces vs. tabs, utf8, etc.), but all of these size metrics will be pretty loose.
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This is one of those chicken-and-egg, correlation-is-not-causation problems.

Does big 'size' cause a big budget, or do big budgets cause blooming 'size'? A bit of both I'd wager.
mopoke,

You're absolutely correct; without the people processes in place, the world's best tools aren't going to do anything for you. I'll ponder over that for the next blog post.
> Capitalism at work.

Bullshit. It's Chinese at work. Similar stories from dealing with Indians. Poverty is not an excuse. Wild hypothesis: Maybe they're poor because they cheat each other all the time.

When the Japanese were dirt poor back in the 60s people didn't have complaints about them regularly shafting everyone in business. Same for the Taiwanese.
Amazon's already invested a lot in the Android platform with the Amazon Appstore and all the other assorted Amazon Android apps. Considering that migrating to WebOS would require Amazon to:

(a) actually obtain the rights to WebOS (whereas Android they can just fork a version from git),

(b) retool all their existing app infrastructure to support WebOS, and

(c) promoting WebOS to developers when probably the only WebOS device that would be available to them would be the new Kindle and the fire-saled Touchpads,

I don't really see them moving to WebOS, or away from Android in general, anytime soon.
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On the other hand, small project sizes make this possible at all. For a very complex project you have so many potential users and customers that a single agile team cannot deal with all of them.

Size has its own unique problems.
Yeah, but there's code there to return the no code page.
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You could say all of those things about astrology.

There are great reasons to suppress pseudo-science, but the first and foremost reason is that it isn't true.
Heh, If you consider some surveys run by a methodology consultant to be the only "evidence" you have of the superiority of said methodology, then you just proved my point better than I ever could. Thank You!

PS: You really should get a stats education, so you can properly judge (and see through) such shaky "evidence"
One metric I've seen is gzip-compressed size, which has the nice property that it identifies the size of the incompressible elements -- ie it discounts repetitive boilerplate.

Another interesting set of metrics is Halstead's "software science" metrics[1]. They fell out of favour because initially they were hard to count and didn't seem to correlate with anything else.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halstead_complexity_measures
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If you have access to the publication libraries of the ACM and IEEE, you'll find that they publish most of this literature.

I know where to find research literature. I'm asking for specific citations. Is the claim an urban legend? If "studies show" X, one ought to be able to point to the studies.

How many lines is this?

All three of your examples have the same number of tokens, so to judge by them alone, token count is not just a good measurement of code size, it's a perfect one. My question is what's wrong with it.

I don't see how "logical lines", whatever that is, can possibly be simpler than counting tokens. In fact I don't see how anything can be simpler than counting tokens, since it's easy to know what it means, a tokenizer is always available, and everything irrelevant to the program is by definition dropped.
I am not aware of the difference. Is it that exponential means something like c^n, superlinear is n^c, and linear cn?
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Isn't Safari's option the same as Chrome's main "Block third-party cookies from being set"?

Chrome's about:flags option also blocks third-party cookies from being read.
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Interesting point.

http://www.ai-class.com/overview says: "Programming is not required, however we believe it will be very helpful for some of the homework assignments. You may write code in any language you would like to (we recommend Python if you are new to programming) and your code will not be graded. For example, a question might ask for 6 answers to the same problem but with varied inputs or parameters. You are welcome to work each one out by hand, however writing a program might be both faster and give you a better understanding of how the algorithm works."

So there will be at least some programming, they got me confused - how is it possible to teach AI without programming? :) But we'll see.
Google can do some of that for certain queries:

http://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+height+of+the+emp...

http://www.google.com/search?q=what+was+the+length+of+the+ti...

It doesn't know everything though - it came up blank on the first flight to break the sound barrier.
I believe your Intel example has very little to do with the cost or quality of manufacturing in China and more to do with export restrictions on current generation semiconductor fab equipment. Intel does operate a fab in China but is based on an older 65nm process.
For now I signed up for both: if it will consume too much time I can drop one of them later, keeping more interesting one.
But repetitive boilerplate is exactly the last thing that should get away scot-free in a measurement of code size.
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It can be quadratic. Think about drawing all possible lines between points (possible components in software):

Make a table with columns being # points and the # lines you can draw between them.

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Its not condemning ....just creating a comparison...so database.com users consider the difference.
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But this penalizes programmers who like to use long readable names. I'm not one of them (though I used to be), but they have a strong case here.

Take any program. Replace all the names with the smallest possible character sequences. Have you made the program simpler? Or smaller in any meaningful way? Surely not. I'd say what you've done is left its logical structure precisely intact (another way of saying that token count is a good metric) while reducing its readability.
The question is whether the unethical factory would go bankrupt. Information inefficiency and asymmetry prevents stories like this from being widespread to other potential product companies. So other product companies don't know what to expect and then have to experience the same mistakes. Even if an online directory and feedback mechanism were created, those are horribly easy to game if one wanted (see Yelp). My friend who used to work at Alibaba said fraud was rampant among the vendors listed on the website. I expect that the large demand for production facilities from abroad, coupled with information inefficiency and asymmetry, will allow the unethical factory to continue to make money.
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What about old science? Is that true? When scientists told women to give their babies "formula" in the 1960s instead of breast-feeding them, was that true? Or do you retroactively label it pseudo-science? It certainly had the blessing of the authorities (edit: the scientific authorities) at the time. What about the dietary fat hypothesis, currently falling apart after generations of being such dogma that people lost their jobs for questioning it? When did it go from being scientific to unscientific?

My point is that these boundaries are not nearly crisp and stable enough to bear your level of judgmentalism.

I'm guessing that in Myers-Briggs lingo, you're a J. I'm an extreme P. These two don't get along sometimes. Also, I'm an Aquarius.
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I never understood the gzip one. Repetitive boilerplate is bad; why hide it?
What's funny is that the "minimum viable pants" in question have sold ridiculous amounts in summer heat. Perhaps (or, hopefully?) not for the demographic shown in the illustration though.
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Chef and Puppet can definitely do this for you, without servers involved.

Another great use of Chef and Puppet can be seen in Vagrant (http://vagrantup.com/). Vagrant uses VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) to create virtual instances easily (REALLY easily) and then can automatically provision them via Chef or Puppet. Sweet stuff. I love the ability to bring up a new server with the things I want to have so quickly.
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> I'm asking for specific citations.

None to hand right now.

> I don't see how "logical lines", whatever that is, can possibly be simpler than counting tokens.

I wasn't rejecting token counts per se. I think that it's a useful metric too.

What I was trying to convey is that "logical lines" is the term used in the literature. Logical lines can cover token counts if you define 1 token = 1 logical line. Or it might not. Either way, you have to settle on a definition.
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I understand that this is meant to be comedy, but the most important part in MVP is the "viable".

A feather is not a viable pillow.
You're trying to understand the "true" size of the software in spite of the idiosyncrasies of a given language.

As I noted somewhere above, "size" is an abstract, dimensionless quality. It can only be approached through proxies. The more the merrier, I reckon, especially if they turn out to correlate with different things.
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It depends on what you want to know. Pure physical lines is one thing, "size" is a another.
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Right on! I can definitely get into a better coffee and pastry experience. We will mostly be around Pike Place, so these are great suggestions, thank you.

I am digging KEXP! There are options almost every night. Very cool!
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With an Amazon tablet, I can see something similar happening for digital video.
I'm not sure why you would want WebOS? Android sounds great to me.