skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
As long as UBI is never "localized" to regional costs of living it can act to revitalize housing markets in inland America. Housing isn't a gobal supply problem, it's that there isn't enough supply near sources of income. Unlink needing access to work from where you can live and things will get a LOT better.
This looks cool and like a novel way to generate the graphs, I'll have to take a look
We've done a long-term wide-scale UBI experiment? Where?

I hope you don't mean any fickle systems tied to covid, and I especially hope you don't mean the unemployment boost the US did; unemployment pay is very different from basic income.

And even if something fails, that doesn't prove it's some kind of impossibility like perpetual motion machines.
That's highly doubtful. If you can get by with a hand-out, most with such a low bar won't work unless they are hungry for more.
Right. I mean, basically you're as safe as your public-key/username. If you can make your wallet in some kind of very off grid way, the same way you'd have to use Tor; cash laptop, McDonald's wifi, etc.
Why even have names then? Might as well just be a serial number that isn't displayed, and a bag of keyword fields that also aren't displayed but can be searched.

A name has to convey some sort of meaning, otherwise everything will be a billion versions of Verizon. A toothbrush would be indistiguishable from a tax prep software by their names.

And of course people search for every one of those words in that long cheerios name. You can't search for a thing by it's short unique meaningless name until after you find it by searching for what you want, like toasted oat cereal or wallet of freedom.
then why are so many UBI proponents surprised when those who would bankroll this experiement fight it so hard?
We use lambda in our production environment for ETL. It works really well. In our case when we were using it, we modeled the code to account for 15 minute window. Hope that helps.
> Typical startup play: charge almost nothing for a decade or longer, then raise prices or reduce offerings later on after killing almost every competing offering in the world.

If this is meant to describe Netflix, it’s categorically incorrect.

10 years ago, Netflix was a library of third party content. Today, their top content consists of Netflix’s own produced shows.

The nature of their business has changed. You may appreciate their content or think all their originals are horrible. Regardless, it’s unreasonable in my mind that after 10 years in an evolving business, prices would stay the same.

> One day these services that aim to replace cable will be basically identical to cable but more expensive, or else there will be a bunch of walled gardens

Again - cable services were merely an intermediary. The business model shifted where you pay the content house directly and watch shows without ads. I don’t see any direct comparison here.
I do agree with this. Here in France I'm currently unemployed and I have a lot of compensation from government welfare.

I'm looking for a job and every time I apply to a job, I have a little voice in my head saying : are you sure you want to work there ? You currently have the opportunity to do what you want and learn whatever you want for free, but if you work there it will be boring af and you will not be able to do what you want.

So currently I'm reading a lot of books, doing coursera course I'm interested in and doing a lot of sport which is impossible when I have a job because reading takes hours just to read one book.
> For example, "Manitoba, Canada experimented with Mincome, a basic guaranteed income, in the 1970s. In the town of Dauphin, Manitoba, labor only decreased by 13%, much less than expected"

The phrasing tries to downplay the number, but 1 in 8 people stopping work is very significant.

> And the current inflation (and previous events where govts gave out decent sums of cash to help short term other econ issues) shows what happens when people get money for free - prices rise to absorb it. The reason being if person X is willing to put in pain Y for product Z, this does not change if you rescale the meaning of money.

Yes: If you give everyone extra money and theoretically nobody quits working, it's hard to argue that the extra money wouldn't just go to rising prices.

We're already seeing this with supply-constrained resources like housing: In hot cities, people will pay whatever they have to in order to outbid their competitors for houses or apartments. Pouring more money into the situation would only make the numbers go up, but the root problem still exists.
The dopamine inducing element is addictive apps like Facebook, not the color levels of the display.

You can simply delete the apps that have that effect.
Thank you!

I swear it didn't show up in the results when i searched for it yesterday (but the manuals did).
I would slightly disagree. USD as measured by the DXY is as much if not more of a function of international demand for dollars (ie Eurodollar markets). There is massive structural demand built into dollars based on coupon payments in $ denominated international sovereign and lessso corporate debt as well as international commodities markets.
She lobbied to have her entire neighborhood landmarked so that nobody could build anything new there forever. Hard to get more NIMBY than that.

https://www.villagepreservation.org/2016/05/05/continuing-ja...
Exactly. You can't determine a baseline UBI amount without knowing the baseline cost of food and rent. And I'm perfectly ok with rent control. Housing is a basic necessity, after all -- at least in humane societies.
Not quite, it is only reviewed when you make an update to the play store description, not when you publish a new version.
> doctors are working hard because they’re not working smart? Maybe the answer is they just need a sufficiently smart person to tell them how to work?

Correct. Duplicated work, endless shifts because it's believed that switching doctors is more dangerous than having one work for 24 hours at a time are all accepted practices in modern medicine.

NASA (and the military) figured out how to solve both issues back in the 60’s as it was impossible for manned flight to work (or nuclear subs). The medical field still has not, and there’s no incentives to (it’s not result-based, unlike NASA).
I wonder where people get this idea that you should be paid like a rockstar without knowing how to play the guitar.
Mail storage cost is negligible.
That would be 6.5% of eligible workers quitting.
Housing: UBI lets you move somewhere cheap, eliminating the leverage that landlords hold, letting housing prices go down.

Food: Foods are commodities, meaning that the price is the marginal cost. The price of a bushel of rice is set by the buyer, not the seller.
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> In 4d you can tie a sphere in a knot.

Arguably you can do that in 3D, if you accept the horned sphere as a knot. Though I suppose that does raise the question of what you are willing to call a sphere.

Regardless it's an embedding of a sphere that cannot be deformed into a unit sphere so I think the analogy holds.
> we just went through a massive worker shortage caused by overly generous stimulus benefits and rent subsidies. Have we forgotten already?

Nope we haven't. We just paid attention to the facts:

Some states turned down additional unemployment benefits. Those states continued to have same employment issues as the states that maintained benefits.

So clearly the issue was not the unemployment benefits.
So what? Sounds like you should be part or a dictatorship rather than a democracy. If you support this idea then feel free to donate to the cause.

Not trying to be an ass but the so what attitude does not tend to further constructive discussion.
People who want to study earthquakes will keep a distance and model and measure remotely.

The idea that seismologists actually want to experience massive destruction personally is bizarre, and completely wrong.
> you probably have to be 70/80+ to know about this

Not necessarily. "Hancock's Half Hour" and "Goon show" episodes were sold on vinyl records at the time (and are still to be found on the big internet retailer on Vinyl, CD and MP3).

If the media were in the house, years later, kids would play them for amusement.
How do you get lots of actual dirty cash into a dirty wallet?
Yes, It could be, and it is free and open source, with a WYSIWYG editor
That’s exactly what I assumed. I think it would be a pretty hard argument to say that Alaskans are lazy because of their permanent fund.
Gettting rid of serfdom, debt prisons and endentured servitude all reduced work and caused products of labour to be redistributed. Who said that current distribution of products of labour between Amazok and their workers is optimal?
One of my favorite applications of graphviz https://anidb.net/anime/715/relation/graph

It is a great tool to have, it makes drawing complex diagrams manageable.
The strangest part about this is that it can still be moved with a Registry edit. So the functionality's still there, Microsoft just removed the toggle button for it. Very odd
Hope it helps! There used to be a program called dotty, looks like it was basically abandoned, though. :(
Is it a truth though? Or is it merely a stubbornly persistent instilled cultural belief? The whole point of experiments is to separate the two.
If you enjoy animated shows, you don't need to enjoy league.
If you're homeless, what luxuries are you buying?

What use is buying the new video game if you don't have a place to put a TV to play it on?
Usual concerns about these lists apply, but after the Gameboy games article on the weekend I found this a nice overview of different parts of the topic.
Only time I met him was the early 90s, he came skateboarding into the hall in Chicago's Union Station wearing this ridiculous getup with goggles on his head like some character from "Hackers". Amazing.
> the truth is that the vast amount of control that we've seen develop in the past century (and especially in the past two decades) were just to protect people from said muck.

Think of the children!

Do you really believe the vast amount of centralized control is to protect the poor stupid people? I think this is an incredibly naive and gullible take. The vast amount of controls in place are to solidify power amongst the powerful.
I can't say for the everyone, but looking back on my previous employments the ones which I remember fondly were the ones where I, as a person, could influence the part or the whole company.

You can't influence anything if you aren't valued in any way.
What’s the likelihood of any of those 3 companies pivoting and offering a fundamentally new entertainment experience?

My money would be on Netflix. They’ve done it at least twice already; it’s in their DNA.
All interesting points thank you. I don't know much about the free licenses point, but will certainly look into it
No they don’t. People want to run fast code. Rosetta is just a stopgap.
The establishment still preferred him to Malcolm X.
If everyone received basic income, at what point would the majority of voters not see it in their interest to vote for legislators who promise to increase it?
> No, just admit that I got you.

You make an incredulous claim, I'm asking you to show evidence for it (just a single case). You refuse to show evidence, and you think that you "got me"? How did you get me exactly? You made claims and refused to back them up. As far as I know, you're just talking hot air.

> The machinery of metabolism is very complex and it controls energy and fat utilization. It’s the machinery that drives the metabolic behavior of the human body, not the laws of thermodynamics.

The human body is not magically immune from laws of physics. That said, laws of physics don't prevent the human body from consuming fat during starvation, so you could be right. Then again, if you were right, there would be a documented case of this happening... but I wasn't able to find one.

> You say you want to see a fat person starve. You also need to see the one million other malfunctions of biological pathways that are responsible for the behavior that we are used to seeing in the human body. There are one million things we have never seen because of the astounding reliability of the human body as a machine. Just because you haven’t seen these malfunctions doesn’t mean that there’s nothing under the hood.

Is it theoretically possible that a human - at some point in history - has had this specific malfunction? Sure! You "got me" there. Now, if my neighbor chats me up next to the mailbox and talks about how they are physically unable to lose weight because of their genes, what do you think is the probability of that being true? Sure, theoretically she may have a "malfunction" that only 1/100000000 humans exhibit, sure. But I wouldn't be money on it.
powerful and chilling. it is as if he knew. he knew his fate. and he sensed it coming soon. and yet he continued his work anyway. exemplar of American heroism
As an aside, this is awkward for Fingerprint JS: https://i.imgur.com/80en4LY.png
Very cool. About Sketchviz

1) is there an option to make the graph horizontal instead of vertical?
2) can you make the svg option separate, instead of hidden behind the PNG button (with CTRL key)?
3) how did you do the handwriting style?
Apple 'Ready to Spend Billions' on Live Sports Content
Assuming we don’t want to MMT / money printer this, to keep a balanced budget, any UBI system would have to be accompanied by an increase in taxes.

These taxes would presumably be very progressive.

This effectively would end up more than negating the effect of UBI on the richer people, thus turning it into a directed welfare program.

UBI and directed welfare are essentially same same.
Then roll on automation. Not even the Luddites had a problem with automation; just with the quality of the result and with who reaped the rewards.
Same reason spam snail mail is a thing. All parties involve make money from it.
The person who has the device never agreed to that license…
In Denmark I don't think everyone gets payments from the government regardless of need do they? The welfare system is just for people who are unemployed/disabled right? This doesn't really tell us much about how UBI would work since losing welfare benefits is a disincentive to work that you don't have with UBI.

This article says UBI has been controversial for a long time in Denmark but is on the political agenda again recently:

https://basisindkomst.dk/basic-income-borgerloen-in-denmark-...
Sounds like a net positive if they're getting basic income and thus don't have to suffer through the abuse anymore
How do you know that, and how do you explain that more people get on welfare as it gets available to them, even though they have good employment options?

Moreover, why does that matter at all - how is it fair to those still working, who are forced to pay for those who don't want to? I'm all for welfare - helping people in need. But I'm not going to fund someone's lifestyle.
I remember this quote from Bryan Cantrill in the context of the time he chose to leave Sun Microsystems (after it had been acquired by Oracle):

«when you can't make the right thing happen, it's time to quit»

I think it's a general rule of thumb, albeit it should probably be interpreted according to one's specific situation.
Ostensibly each arrow style graphic would need an explicitly-defined "attach point" at whatever is deemed the "tip", so that the tip can be oriented perfectly in relation to the vertex and edge of the GraphViz graph.

If nothing like that exists, I can see how it would be a very troublesome refactor.
Much as we might agree these workers overall have more money - from whatever source - it does not follow that the pay would go up for crap jobs. The pay need only be high enough above the post tax increase from the UBI baseline to fill the spots. Maybe it won't they populated by people who need to feed their family anymore, but perhaps by college grads who need to feed themselves because UBI is eaten up by their student loan repayment. All we can guarantee really is shifting the bracket of the likely talent pool's need for a few extra dollars. Humans aren't alike in the level of income above which they're no longer in desperation for a few extra bucks.
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For me these studies are utterly meaningless without real world long-term data.

> would not reduce people’s willingness to work

> The psychologists also found an indication that people with a basic income look for work that suits them better.

Note how the authors use the word *willingness" to work. 0 people want to clean toilets or public restrooms for a living. Or be waiting staff at a restaurant. Yet those "grunt work" jobs are often formative in developing grit, social skills & long term prioritisation skills (instant gratification vs. long term payoff). I shudder to think what the consequence would be of participating in a society where you are free to skip the "hard stuff" because it's inconvenient.
It's for PHP developers mostly, who want to build SPA but struggle with JavaScript frameworks, or who want SPA as well as efficient SSR without involving Node js on their servers. Plus, it's already familiar php and html, similar template syntax as in Angular or Vue.
>Sure, if you want to learn about dysfunctional places, go into them.

I'm not sure how much you can learn, the number of ways organisations can be dysfunctional has no bounds. It's like that quote from Tolstoy about families:

"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."
I pay for goods and services with USD. I get USD either by liquidating non-USD denominated asset for USD or from income-stream (wages). I didn't say I don't use USD, I said I hold it as short as possible just like with crypto.

>So, like cars that depreciate in value the second you buy them?

Generally worst example, although a few cars have held their value (some Porsche, but I'm not good enough car guy to execute this.)

>Like ones denominated in....US currency?

Like the ones not denominated in US currency, like stocks denominated in shares.
It isn't properly fingerprinting me on Safari between incognito/non-incognito sessions either: https://i.imgur.com/80en4LY.png

There's also an extra session on one of my incognito tabs listed in the session history on the demo page.
It looks as though the old forum is dead and the new one is here: https://aff.419eater.com/
The infrastructure engineers built an awesome highway, but the other half (content creators) aren't creating enough quality cars. Content creators, and the people who make content/entertainment decisions, are not the same people as the infrastructure engineers and have little in common except they both use computers.
We don't have a balanced budget. Programs like UBI would most likely not be paid by taxes (which would be better used for education/trade programs that I mentioned) but by increasing the deficit. There is no undo button. Millions of people would be dependent on it. You will have no choice but to print money.

I suspect California will try UBI anyways and fail spectacularly. It will be a canary in the coal mine.
No. No no no.

I make six figures and hardly work at all. As a dishwasher I used to bust my ass and make 7 dollars per hour. In my experience, the less you work, the more money you make. Everyone I've talked to in real life, who has worked both shitty jobs and high paying jobs, has the exact same experience.
Legally that's true but I think you know as well as anyone that people don't just suddenly mature on the day of their 18th birthday.
Yeah, anyone trying to live on basic income would be resigned to rural squalor with no opportunity to speak of. Rent prices in those areas would be saran wrapped to basic income levels, making them impossible to get out of.
I was, and mostly still am, in favor of basic income, but the effects of the COVID stimulus/PPA on my city (Philadelphia) have thrown some cold water on my idealism.

I lurk on the 'hood'/gang subreddit for the city, and the general consensus there is that the stimulus checks are the reason for the upswing in homicides, which shattered the all-time record this year to over 550, meaning that the murder rate in a city of 1.5 million is now 1/3000 per annum, and far higher if you're of a certain age group in certain neighborhoods.

The reasoning is that cliques which were previously only able to afford one gun for the whole squad can now afford lots more guns, enough for everybody to have their own, and those guns are being used as tools for acquiring even more money.

I think the lesson is strong rebuttal the libertarian argument that basic income can replace a functioning social state - a functioning society requires a lot more hard work than overnight helicopter money.
> If you're paying large numbers to do nothing, the value of that money plummets and people will starve

Absolutely not. Having a large fraction of population being unemployed is not good but this is not the point of UBI. Also, this is completely disconnected from inflation/deflation.

Furthermore, deflation and "people will starve" are very much disconnected. Many countries devalued their money on purpose to be more competitive on international markets.
i have two main thoughts about work

- if we had guaranteed roof, we'd do different jobs, fill desire, aim at useful. A lot of people go to work with zero benefits being ability to pay rent. They dread it but they have no choice. It's a weird balance

- any task can be done, even being berated or doing petty tasks, you just dont have to do it from 9 to 5, all year long. You can do 2h if that pleases you. And those jobs now being recognized as nasty would be distributed differently or at least valued as such and workers doing it would feel appreciated

ps: our current system makes us angry at each others. very ironic.
Agreed. So people will either drop out of the workforce for such jobs, or will require more money to do those jobs.

As with most things related to worker protection, this presents a trade-offs. Some workers will be better off, whereas the customers that rely on them for services will end up paying more money for the same goods or services, a form of inflation.

I am not judging what is best here, I just want to point out that it's a trade-off.

And one observation: most of the HN audience is pretty well off, definitely middle class or above. So when someone says "Im ok with workers getting paid more and prices being more expensive" they are virtue signaling but forgetting that if you are poor, Walmart prices is what affords your lifestyle and even small increases disproportionally hurt the poor.

A second observation: you can't create wealth by giving everyone more money. To create wealth you need to increase supply and reduce real prices, which means increase productivity. I am not sure why this is not part of the UBI conversation.
Well, technically you could have done this since forever in an RDBMS. Key value table, have the table be a blob (or just varchar if a string).

Then yes, you'd have to parse it yourself, but you'd be doing that anyway with JSON fields, more or less.
No worries -- I think I was in a defensive mindset because the original comment that kicked everything off appeared to be pulling an annoying rhetorical technique.
There was also NeWS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS

which had the interesting idea of using PostScript to drive the display.
> If you’re a foreigner, congratulations – you’re probably the loudest person on their often (voluntarily) silent public transport.

I have this feeling that this is not a Finish thing, but a rest-of-the-world-apart-US, thing. In my ~40 years spent in Romania and now UK, I rarely saw people engaging strangers on public transport, let alone doing it loudly.
Yeah, the post definitely has some serious "tell me you aren't a geologist without telling me you aren't a geologist" energy.