I don't think you've learned how to abandon judgment in order to be able to perceive human behavior clearly enough to recognize what's going on. Children aren't naturally cowards...they're naturally curious to the point that they can die from it. They're not selfish...they're simply not ready to care for other people yet as they're still learning how to meet their own needs. They're not lazy...they've been taught emotional avoidance and have different priorities than adults trying to push adult priorities onto kids. Based on how the world's working right now, that's fucking brilliant, not stupid. I say let the adults suck it. Go cry in a corner. They're not dishonest...they're trying to get their needs met through whatever means necessary. If I sat here and told you all these truths and you still didn't believe me about kids, know what I'd do next? Lie to you, if that's what it takes to meet the needs of the situation and people involved. I'd tell the biggest lie if it would end oppression. As for never doing what's right for themselves, the stuff I wrote in my previous comment is about someone who's been doing most of that stuff since before they were 2. They're able to identify plants. They know which ones not to eat and the only times they try to are to tease us.

Nobody's born perfect. There is, however, definitely programming going on that's impacting every person starting from when they're in the womb and before. And for sure there's a shitload of it when they come out. This is an incredibly important point: we are all programming each other when we interact in various ways and society largely ignores this fact. There's no fucking way a 1-year old is reacting to something without there being some kind of conditioning at play. That's simply not possible.

Children learn to communicate their needs going unmet first by crying. That's what babies are doing when they cry. Then, they learn to ask physically. Then verbally. I don't remember why I wrote this, but I'm keeping it because it's worth knowing.

And anger is almost always a sign of deeper unmet emotional needs. Piling humiliation on top of it doesn't address the sadness, fear, frustration, or whatever that's built up into the anger.

You speak of rebellion. Sounds like you want obedience. I'm not saying you do...just saying it sounds like it. Every being has a need for autonomy. It's a defining aspect of most life. If you want obedience, you're already seeking to deny that need. Rebellion is the emotionally immature reaction, when obedience isn't working for someone. The emotionally mature response is to bring in compassion for all parties and help the ones seeking to deny others' needs come to realize what's going on inside of them that's leading them to ignore the needs of others.

Another thing about kids is they're WAY more easily programmed than adults are. And we have around the world many cultures that do not teach compromise, emotional connection, delayed gratification, mindfulness, or even wtf humans need to survive and thrive. And we have many education systems that don't even bother to address those issues. So why would I ever expect a young person to develop those skills without being born to or nurtured by extraordinary people/circumstances?

As for the Inuit, from what I've read about cultures in harsh environments is that the need for gentleness becomes pretty fucking apparent pretty quick. The Inuit aren't simply gentle, though...they're emotionally connecting with their kids and respecting autonomy, so they're probably not experiencing much rebellion. I did a brief google search here to find some clarity and what I found was this, which suggests teenage rebellion isn't a human universal. This tracks with what I've read before. https://churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-blogs/149004-the-my...

I want to invite children to rebel against the school system, learn about compassion, and form roaming gangs in neighborhoods seeking to liberate more children and help more parents connect with their kids. Because the adult world as it stands is clearly out of alignment with nature and how the adults are handling it is clearly out of alignment with the needs of young people.