skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
"COVID has generally proven to both employers and employees that productivity doesn't drop that much"

Is that a personal observation of yours, or has this now become "fact"? The reason I ask is that I would like to find studies - not just surveys or anecdotal evidence - that attempt to quantify the quality and productivity of WFH since the recently pandemic changes.

At work, we've had countless discussions about this and the jury is still out. The introverts claim to be no less than twice as productive, the extroverts claim they are lying and they really miss leaving work early on Fridays to go to the pub - somehow that makes them better employees. Management hate not being able to peer over your shoulder (although they have recently installed "security" software on everyone's laptops for "security purposes"). But I have nothing to point to other than my own experience managing a remote team of devs.

I've yet to come to a solid conclusion as to how it works for others. I only know that my productivity and depth of work has never been greater. So if there are any resources you could point me to I'd be grateful.
> their code is proprietary, they're a business.

Their code can be proprietary, but their protocol shouldn't be. Walled gardens are antithetical to the spirit that built the internet, and no amount of donations can't change the fact that Discord is bad for the net.
What are those alternatives?

I believe the common scientific consensus is that of classic materialism: mind is a process supported by the body's matter.

There are probably alternative theories indeed but they are at the fringes. For example, what are the repeatable experiments that would prove that the mind exists outside the body?

They've been billions of experiments now were people body disappear and the mind never came back. Unless you believe in spiritism which is far from being an accepted scientific theory.
I don't know the reasons for this, Stripe is also not so used in Italy, btw I think you should never, ever, rely on a single PSP, they have too much power. More than two years ago we had to add electronic payment to the proprietary B2B ecommerce I was working on, first thing was to design an architecture as indipendent as possibile from a specific PSP.
> It seems that, if this was possible to implement (card tokenization obviously being an issue here)

It can be implemented, it has been implemented. Let's say that you'd like to move from one PSP to a new one, but you also have old PSP manage storing credit card information for you. All you have is a weird token, which represents your costumers credit card, but locked to you store. When you switch, you send the list of tokens to the PSP, which will then exchange information with the new PSP. Lastly the new PSP will send you a set of replacement tokens.

Granted it's not super automated, and not something PSPs will do, unless you're moving between them, but they can do it.
Layer two solutions like the lightning network make payments almost free. Much cheaper than using Stripe.
Someone already did in the Discord.
Correct, but they stated they're in delayed fulfillment within the travel vertical.
While I am not a fan of Amazon for other reasons, their chat support has been always outstanding for me.
> It's an elaboration of the fact that brain meat is not magic, and can't be magic, and everything we understand about the laws of physics leaves no room for magic.

This assertion is rather short-sighted and presumes, wrongly, that knowledge on a topic is already complete.

Yet, we live in a day and age when scientists are still discovering muscles in the jaw. We're talking about basic anatomy, not how neurons work.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29705819

Is it too hard to imagine that knowledge on how the brain actually works is still far from complete?
OK, so whats the problem ?
I don't see a problem with 99% of that tasks.
HFT and finance are still mostly in-office. If you join as a front-office dev on a trading team, chances are you will not be remote much and people will be in the office trading.
There's even a song about it. :)

(OK maybe more than just one...)
Do you understand how invasive it feels to be asked for a phone number?
welcome to the world of rich people
It has been like that for a long time. The non-skippable intro screen warning viewers of the evils of unlicensed copying was only ever seen by people not watching an unlicensed copy.

FWIW, I think movies need to take the same route music did. Ever since I found out I could just buy DRM-free high-quality audio at a reasonable price, I have happily paid for the music I like, because it was so very convenient. If it was as convenient to legally buy copies of movies / TV shows, I'd be happy to spend some money for that.
I think you forgot "and never ever have internet or electricity issues" to your list.
The big advantage of Slack/Discord is that once a message was sent, everyone will receive it. Maybe in some time if the user is not always up but it will be received.
Not to forget, not everyone interested in this or that FOSS project is tech-savvy enough to setup what you said.
Google often does that to Google play developers so I don’t see why stripe can’t?
If there is a service (API) between you and that network, yes.
Until they will?

At the end of the day, how else will chat apps make money? Fundamentally, as long as it's one central service run by one company they'll have to make money by eventually milking their users once they have the marketshare. Whatsapp said they'd do it forever and now they are.
> Not used for any other purposes

...for now. I'll never give out my phone number to discord. The messages aren't even E2E encrypted.
I understand that flu and cold infections are more widespread this year than last, because people havn't been mingling as much in the last year. So when they do mingle, they encounter flu/cold variants that they don't have resistance to.
Considering the fact many popular releases hit the torrents often times before official version is even available anywhere I dont think your speedbump metaphor is really working here =)
>"Depending on your job function and industry. For tech, yes, those days are over for at least for another 5 to 10 years"

I think for a good percentage the option might be forever except some once in a while gathering in some local bar / event place / rent a temp workspace / whatever else can substitute
I really wish so but I don't see it as being an option for the general public until we see actual networking effects around it.
True, often other lenders with even worse rates and terms show up first. It’s how entire countries become owned by a few foreign companies.

IMF loans primarily come with horrible terms: privatisation, deregulation and austerity. Same with EU funds. Poor countries have to choose between exploitation or aggression.
I feel somewhat similar. Ironically before COVID I really wanted to go remote but was reluctant because it seemed few of the "good" jobs in my time zone were remote. They were lower pay/lower impact.

Now the job market appears to be reversed and the in person jobs are not the best. And, after a year and a half it seems evident that I don't really like remote work as much as I thought I would.
This is pure gold :D

>Communicate the status of your work-in-progress to your manager in a way that both reflects your uncertainty and is useful for your manager.

"Well, sir, let me put it this way: Can 9 women give birth to a child in one month? If so, then yes, you can have the feature next week!"
I'd say it also depends a lot on location and its prevalent culture.

Over here in France, most French companies (as opposed to US companies operating here) have to be dragged kicking and screaming into WfH arrangements.

Ever since the pandemic started picking back up steam this autumn, the government was "encouraging" companies to allow people to work from home, but there were no firm directives.

Most companies figured having their employees pile up in the metro (yay covid!) and congest the highways (yay pollution!) wasn't that big of an issue.

They also asked companies to try to stagger arrival / departure times to reduce the number of people in the metro. Didn't work any better.

In my opinion, if OP is living in France (or willing to relocate here), it should be extremely easy to find in-office jobs.
I understand the concern, trust me. We’re working on alternative methods.
The plot thickens..
Yeah I'm not sure if those are problems that happens often enough to be mentioned, I guess that depends on a user's perspective but you're right, I have a UPS at home, so I solve that easily, for internet I've had a lot of problems in the past, but now I have a FTTH so that never happens, I guess if you have frequent issues with electricity and internet you have bigger issues other than saving IRC channel history :D, but I guess those are solvable with UPS, 4G modem backup connection and there are also some websites that save IRC channels history
The worst searches I have encountered are Thunderbird and Discord. While Google is the gold standard, there's a whole range between the former two and the latter. Just fuzzy search goes a long way, but it seems Thunderbird and Discord only match whole words, exactly. The worst kind of search, but could be easily improved.
I've added now both:

export HISTIGNORE="* rm *"

export HISTIGNORE="rm *"

I think it's even a bit better. Better preventing worst case if possible right from the start. And usually you don't need rm commands within your history. At least I don't.
Internal chat history? I mean you literally can have history with your client if you choose. Discord famously is avoiding that very feature...

You can also share files through urls...
> So... how does rejecting on that basis serve the company trying to hire someone?

One way to describe the rationale is that the hiring firm is hiring for 2-sigma capabilities versus 0-sigma or 1-sigma capabilities.

The ability of a software engineer to "shift gears" to the 2-sigma skill set when outlier conditions (e.g. debugging rare events, performance issues et cetera) occur is a form of insurance against having to contract outside resources.

N.B. I am one of those outside resources that gets called in when none of the FTE staff can resolve a difficult (aka "burning platform") problem.
I don't like mailing lists, it feels a bit dated to me, and you either get a lot of noise in your inbox or hope that people don't forget to CC you when replying. Forums are OK, but do you really need one for most projects when there's GitHub issues and even discussions now?

I personally like it when there's a chat (Discord, Telegram, whatever), it shouldn't be a replacement for an issue tracker but there can be things that aren't clear-cut issues, and I feel less embarrassed to ask in a chat if some behavior is intentional rather than opening an issue.
you can’t learn everything from university and you shouldn’t expect it to. University is all about basic stuff, without a firm understanding of basics, you won’t get anywhere. Most of these tasks can and will and should be learned by working with other experienced professionals.
I recently did a little survey of the top 2,000,000+ GitHub repositories and found (corrected) 28k listed a Discord, 4.3k a Slack, and 1.4k a Matrix chat room[0] This is one of the reasons I chose Matrix for a new game engine project I'm working on.

Highly encourage anyone who has not used Matrix/Element since they added Spaces[1] to give it a shot, it is not perfect but it's the closest FOSS messaging system to reproducing the Discord experience (which I truly love, a good UX is so absolutely critical)

[0] https://twitter.com/slimsag/status/1474453626328207362?s=20

[1] https://element.io/blog/spaces-blast-out-of-beta/
Communities and their documentation need to be resilient to change. Discord is just the chat app du jour. There will be other seemingly preferred apps in the future that will annoy some people if you don't use them. When that happens, you cannot migrate your community and its content. It lives in, and belongs to, Discord's walled garden.
This phone number thing is a deal-breaker for me. Skipped several communities over that in fact.

I can't be bothered to fetch a burner sim every time someone or other wants a number.

And I'm not giving out any of my more permanent numbers to who knows whom.

I have enough spam and phishing attempts on them already, thank you very much.

(and it's not like I imply that you're behind the attempts, it's just numbers leak left and right)
You’re thinking about this the wrong way. Start thinking about how to do with less. A bigger house won’t make you happier, it’ll just take more money to maintain, and therefore more of your time. The more you work, the less time you have with your family. You feel like a loser because, somewhere inside you know you’re the sucker. Stop consuming so much. Stop wanting more. Think of ways to maximize what you have by minimizing the time you spend working. Maybe downsize that house. Maybe move somewhere else with a lower cost of living and work remote.
That’s clear, yes, but it could be bachelor’s, masters, or Ph.D.

Form those, bachelor’s to me, seemed the most likely by a wide margin, but I donn’t know whether the British educational system has its quirks. Especially in the likes of Oxford and Cambridge, that doesn’t seem unlikely to me.
I've been thinking about mixing OpenTelemetry and CH for a while. There is a wild competition in this area, hope you luck and fun!
Pirates don't pay media companies to produce media
Generally true, but working from home is also becoming increasingly common even for front office roles (at least in the UK, not sure how that generalises).
> If a child answers a phone, and someone on the other end tells them to harm themselves, the phone wouldn't be considered the risk.

If I, a billion dollar company, advertise a service where people can phone me and ask questions, and some bored kid phones up and I tell them to stick a fork in a power socket, then I would be considered the risk.
Please don't tell other people what to do.
this really depends on the developer though....
Absolutely! You get fired if you don't. The hiring firm wants a quantitative & unbiased comparison of all candidates.
This looks cool. A video demo would be nice.
> What would you keep?

Personal blogs, knowledge bases in the broadest sense (wikipedia, arxiv, maybe Stackoverfow, that kind of thing), forums, e-commerce.

> What would you throw away?

The whole notion of "content" and "content creation", platforms (big or small), any form of media, the whole notion of "web applications", freaking cookie banners… and probably advertisement, too.

> What would you bring back?

The smaller scale and the DIY aspects.

> What would you like to see more of?

Self-expression without monetisation.

> What were you hoping the internet would solve but hasn't?

I didn't have any particular hope for the internet or the web. It was obvious from the very start that it would become shit.

> What real world things has the internet replaced that you would like to have back?

Actually _meaningful_ social relations with fewer _real_ people. The internet/web didn't replace or kill it but it made virtual alternatives too cheap and easy.

> What real world things would you like to see cyber-ized?

I can't think of any.
Anaerobic microbes will still be able to do a job of it, albeit slower
> Yeah I'm not sure if those are problems that happens often enough to be mentioned, I guess that depends on a user's perspective

It is, but the the average user's perspective is not that they'll set up an IRC bouncer (which odds are high they don't even know exists) so they can have message permanence and cross-device sharing.

Instead they'll say that IRC has no history / offline support (which is, technically, true) and will use discord because it does.
Please many altenatives that are as good or better.
Money is essential for commercial work yet when someone hoards it, you have to borrow new money into the economy, often with interest.
As interest must be included in consumer prices and interest is paid out according to how much money you already own the bottom 90% are net payers in this system and the top 10% are net recipients.

So now politicians must make the economy grow or be forced to take care of the unemployed. At some point there is a limit to how much growth you can achieve domestically so you start exploiting foreign countries.
What are the functionalities for a FOSS project that matrix/zulip miss over discord, or over a mailing list for that matter? I'm seriously wondering, because I've not found anything that I would miss.

> Mail and mailgroups face a similar UX challenge. Not everyone is willing to endure the pain of learning and using mailgroups and IRC just because they're FOSS.

I'm seriously not sure if you are being sarcastic. Learning mailinglists is an obstacle compared to learning discord??
I use ffmpeg to batch convert ripped files. Decoupling ripping from transcoding is more efficient for me. I can get all the ripping done as fast as possible. Transcoding takes a lot longer.
Generally the oxygen minimum zones aren't extending up into the photic layer near the surface which does support a fair amount of life.
That’s fine, but letting unvaccinated people suffer or die is a discriminatory position.

If there is a underlying medical condition that is present then sure I agree. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and shouldn’t be left to die because of it.

Let’s stop hating each other, love everyone even the anti-vaxers.
> what about alienating all the users who prefer discord and don't want to install whatever "free" alternative you suggest?

You don‘t need to install anything. There are web IRC clients, and you don‘t even need an account. It‘s actually easier to use and has a lower barrier of entry in that regard.
The problem with using Discord for FOSS projects for me is that there are hundreds or thousands of unread messages on a server. People are chatting in short messages and I just don't have time to read all this. Forum-like platforms as Discourse seems more readable for me and it can be indexed by google and other search platforms.
It's also a good way to signal to investors and advertising partners about how many real humans actively use their services versus how many bots are using them.
>"really miss leaving work early on Fridays to go to the pub"

I used to have this when I was employed (about 20 years ago). Somehow my personal take was that it gets tiring pretty fast. I've had enough friends outside of employment and wit the very rare exception would very much prefer to socialize with them rather than coworkers.

I then went on my own and have never looked back. The fact that I am doing quite ok means that I am productive. I design and implement new software products for my own company or for clients.
> IMF loans primarily come with horrible terms: privatisation, deregulation and austerity.

Thank goodness for that! If it wasn't for the IMF insisting that my country's economy be reformed, I almost certainly wouldn't be typing this on HN.
When U.S. Air Force discovered the flaw of averages (2016)
Also IRC net splits used to happen often enough to be a concern a few years ago when I last used IRC.
I'm not surprised they don't want to "un-wall" their garden to satisfy a truely tiny amount of people. The "walled garden" is an argument that goes in circles, what if we all like our walled garden? Apple too, for example. If there were more competitors outside of the wall that would be a lot more beneficial, than trying to attack the wall because users are so happy they don't want to leave it.
You're not explicitly mentioning it but this means the PSPs are sending each other the raw credit card data right?
Previous HN discussions with many comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16967675

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21888096
Still, that’s better than having no business at all. Crossing the chasm is a good problem to have
AudioKit 5.3 Released: Code with AudioKit on your iPad
CFCs were banned not because of inefficiency, but people carelessly letting them into the atmosphere and destroying the ozone layer. (I can't blame them much though --- nontoxic, nonflammable, and otherwise inert under normal conditions, they were widely considered to be a miracle material, a triumph of engineering.) They were used as refrigerants because of efficiency among their other desirable properties.

The sound mainly comes from the compressor, and maybe the evaporator/condenser fans[1]. You're right that the older low-speed designs, especially the rotary ones, are definitely less annoying to listen to, but I think the sound insulation and mounting makes the most diference, and the newer ones save material cost there.

[1] related item: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20856036
It was a joke! Good luck! /s
https://github.com/CorentinJ/Real-Time-Voice-Cloning this one maybe?
You don't need to install discord either. It works just fine on the web client, and this was (I assume) largely why it got so popular at first.
wait, genius idea, scan this and put it inside of an NFT along with the video of you burning the original! So much money!
The CEO and co-founder of Telegram made a statement on monetization last year:* https://t.me/durov/142

These parts highlight the strategy:

> 4. All the features that are currently free will stay free. We will add some new features for business teams or power users. Some of these features will require more resources and will be paid for by these premium users. Regular users will be able to keep enjoying Telegram – for free, forever.

> 5. All parts of Telegram devoted to messaging will remain ad-free. We think that displaying ads in private 1-to-1 chats or group chats is a bad idea. Communication between people should be free of advertising of any sort.

> 6. In addition to its messaging component, Telegram has a social networking dimension. Our massive public one-to-many channels can have millions of subscribers each and are more like Twitter feeds. In many markets the owners of such channels display ads to earn money, sometimes using third-party ad platforms. The ads they post look like regular messages, and are often intrusive. We will fix this by introducing our own Ad Platform for public one-to-many channels – one that is user-friendly, respects privacy and allows us to cover the costs of servers and traffic.

If you accept the co-founder's statement, Telegram is only going to monetize one-to-many communications, and not charge fees for one-to-one conversations (in contrast to WhatsApp). Telegram is privately held, not publicly traded, and has no obligation to prioritize profit maximization over their mission.

* The statement is linked from their FAQ: https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-are-you-going-to-make-money-o...
> And the biggest "hmm" is why/for what reason do we have a specific neuronal circuit/capability to tell us that some god/presence is near us[0]?

I'm not sure you read the article you cited, but it clearly states that the initial claims behind the "god helmet" cannot and could not be independently replicated.

Also, the underlying theory refers to "very weak magnetic fields" that are "as strong as those generated by a land line telephone handset or an ordinary hair dryer". If this had any bearing on reality, the law of large numbers would imply we'd see a relatively large number of people experiencing this effect in the wild in ways that could be replicated and experienced by anyone in the vicinity, which we are not.

So, what leads you to believe that these claims are not made up by either a crackpot or a fraudster?
Rust and Go don't support GPU-style parallelism natively (I guess Julia probably does). You wouldn't even want that for 99% of programs. It's only useful for big mathsy tensor operations with very little flow control.

Most programs are not like that at all.
You will be surprised. The absolute worst candidates can stay very long in market and appear everywhere. Someone can look good on paper but a short call can tell you right away that you do not want to deal with them.