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Keep in mind a lot of .net applications will run on x86 or arm with no effort by the developer, ie no "simply recompile your application" either, it will just run on either platform.

But you're right that they're exposed with no applications, which is why they're basically giving windows 8 beta/vs11express away to any and all who are prepared to download it, they need to catch up, and quickly
looks great, must be a lot of work.

Definitely want to get your money back on your SEO
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top hit: http://www.pbjpress.com/

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Can the peanut gallery on sites like hacker news save us from the unnuanced, bloviating and sensationalist fanboyism that passes for professional reporting these days?
Gruber just posted about it: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/09/14/for-realsies
I was unaware that the traditional PC was in danger of disappearing. I think PC sales are down because its been years since most people have had a real need for an upgrade. Hardware purchased in 2008 is still more than usable. Software doesn't seem to be driving the need for hardware upgrades the way it did a decade ago.
Have an old yearbook?
There are definitely rough edges, but the potential is immense. By the way, a recent patch stops alot of the break->restart issues (specifically, syntax errors don't boot you out anymore).
“Right now, if I want an application that ‘feels native,’ Javascript is a no-go, and I have to use one of these (closed, proprietary) technologies.”

Not true – look at what Microsoft does with Windows 8.
The PC is definitely not going extinct. What was going extinct was the Windows interface/way of doing things. That being said, any good software developer knows that design and dev are not mutually exclusive. A product can look absolutely spectacular, but fall apart due to bugs and other issues. Unless Windows 8 manages to completely eliminate things like the BSOD and frequent crashes, a new interface won't change a whole lot.
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Achieving cohesiveness in such a system will be very difficult though. There's a reason why Apple chose to keep OS X and iOS separate.

I do agree that cohesiveness is important to the user experience. It makes me a little disappointed that the extra step wasn't taken to make the Metro UI live on its own without the full desktop experience tagging along.
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So C++ had existed for 10+ years by the time you started with it, right?

I was still having to deal with Cfront-based compilers (the one on HP-UX, for example) in 2002 or so. Amusingly enough, it actually had really good error messages.
You can control this setting from the Metro IE Settings charm:

-Launch Metro IE

-Activate the Settings Charm

-Click "Default View for Links" and toggle the default.
Metro can have a lot of personality.

Eg.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qghf4e2n0Yc&hd=1

http://immersivenick.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/hohm-window...

http://www.mobileguerilla.com/images/windows-phone-7-xbox.jp...

http://www.mobileguerilla.com/images/windows-phone-7-office....

http://www.mobileguerilla.com/images/windows-phone-7-zune.jp...

Can you really say that the app above has no personality?

In-depth Metro analysis from a designer if you're interested:

http://www.riagenic.com/archives/487

http://www.riagenic.com/archives/493
Retarded.
I recall a story (maybe an urban myth) about Steve Jobs visiting Xerox's labs and seeing their UI in action and thinking "we've got to have that". He went back to tell Woz all about it, telling him that Xerox's UI supported overlapping windows and that Apple needed to do the same.

Woz was amazed that it was possible to have overlapping windows on such a resource constrained machine. But if Xerox engineers could do it, he could to dammit! After a Herculean effort he got the overlapping windows to work nicely and they shipped.

It was only later that they found out that Xerox's engineers were blown away by Woz's achievement as they had studied the problem and decided that it wouldn't be possible to do overlapping windows. They never developed that functionality.

Turns out that Jobs had made a mistake in remembering what he had seen and Xerox never did have those overlapping windows :-)

Anyway, this story might be incorrect on some points or a complete fabrication, but I like it.
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all these windows 8 news are tiring
Exactly 1023 patents? Does Google do those jokes even in a legal context? (Maybe someone had to count them using only his fingers)
Gruber really missed this and also how well Windows 8 runs on ARM in the article yesterday. Maybe he should stick to Apple stories where he's much more knowledgeable.

And yet his articles on Windows 8 get top billing on HN whereas the actual Windows 8 posts hardly got many votes. That's HN for you I guess.
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Sorry, I responded to both comments at the same time. I appreciate your feedback!
Arghh! I had a long thank you written but it got deleted because I didn't fill in one one the fields. Nice idea otherwise.
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> I meant by "ubiquitous" to imply the opposite.

In that case, I have no idea how you think ActiveX could ever have become "ubiquitous".

> they have no monopoly in browsers, VMs, or OSes to abuse

They have a monopoly in search engines (and some would argue webmail clients), and are trying hard to work on browsers and OSes, especially on mobile... Give them a few more years, and see how things look.

> their interests are aligned with what is good for the web

They used to be, for a bit. At this point, I've very skeptical that this is still true.

> the industry has changed since the bad old days

Has it? I don't see much evidence of this. Particular _markets_ have changed, but attitudes really haven't.
If I'm reading this right, Gruber's effectively saying, "Metro, and Metro alone (i.e., no desktop), is a good competitor to the iPad." That's wonderful; a real iPad competitor.

But what about all the rest of the computers? You know, those big things on your desktop? We all know just how smart most users are when it comes to figuring out how to use stuff on a computer. Its taken years to get to the point where your typical "user" can use a computer without too much difficulty. Part of this is due to the consistency of the Windows UI; folder windows, mouse motions, menubars, etc. Suddenly, we're going to throw something completely new at them, something which:

1) Has been shown to be difficult to do well for everyday use (touchscreen desktops)

2) Has a moderately non-intuitive interface (hidden UI elements until I swipe from a particular side, or maybe tap over here and here and here)

3) Has questionable benefits in a desktop computing environment where a keyboard is a perfectly appropriate device

And, once they learn all that, our user realizes that he still has to use the original UI for many programs! That's right, photoshop isn't going to be going Metro anytime soon, and neither is Matlab, or Autocad, or Excel, or video editing software, or any "Pro" program (for lack of a better word). Metro may be wonderful for tablets and other mobile devices, but it sure looks like it's going to be a drag in being forcibly married to the traditional Windows UI.
The traditional PC (even... the desktop!) isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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What kills Google+'s utility and might kill Facebook's stream is the lack of a way to keep track of my high-water mark of what I read through the stream, and always feeling the perception that the software is keeping things from me.

Whereas with Twitter, if I don't want to read something, I unfollow, but its fairly easy for me to track what I've read and know I'm reading all that I possibly can and want to.

Facebook adding subscriptions is interesting, now lets get a good desktop client and high-water-mark syncing between web, phone and desktop.
> ...not a typical choice for... technical.... It is more... soft, girly, perhaps creative.

Really. Really?? For entirely separate reasons, I'm bothered both by the placement of "technical" and "girly" in opposition and also by "technical" and "creative" in opposition. Yikes.
It will only be a matter of time before mobile phones start replacing laptops for desktop-like use cases. People will likely use their phones as if they were laptops with wirelessly-connected keyboard, mouse, and screen. I can totally see businesses start buying Windows-ready phones for their employees than the alternatives.
Let's suppose you took a 1 year short position in 1998 on Cisco because you were convinced the bubble was going to burst (and it WAS) - you would be well and truly fucked.

This is partly why bubbles form. Easier to bet on prices going up (just buy a share, downside is limited) than prices going down (you need to predict when it will go down and your downside is unlimited).

Markets can remain irrational for longer than you can remain solvent.
"He later goes on to suggest that perhaps there will be no "traditional" Windows on the tablet, only Metro, which he discusses having the same sorts of backgrounding-and-suspending capability iOS enjoys."

Which, again, proves he didn't watch the keynote. At one point they brought up the scenario of using a tablet on the couch and then, after finding a bug, being able to pull up Visual Studio on the same device. Even the tablet they gave out came with VS installed on the device.
I love the way LinkedIn searches drop off at the end of each week. Makes sense since LinkedIn is for professional networking and people like to shutdown for the weekend.
>I’m hung up on the question of how any OS that lets you do everything Windows does could compete with the iPad, because the iPad’s appeal and success is largely forged by the advantages that come from not allowing you to do so many of the things Mac OS X can do.

So you're saying the iPad is successful because it can't do stuff OS X can do? Sorry I don't understand -- that sounds a bit silly to me. I thought it was the portability and size and ease of access to apps (the ecosystem around the device) that makes the iPad successful. If we could have the hardware power of a desktop system on an iPad, while keeping the simplicity of use, I'm fairly sure we would all like that.

With every step Apple is moving OS X closer to iOS, and iOS closer to OS X. Will they ever combine the two? I see no reason why they couldn't eventually with the amazingly quick progression of the relevant technologies that we're seeing.

Now whether MS is doing the right thing by combining them now -- I'm OK with saying I have no idea until I actually play with the device. Maybe they can pull it off, maybe not.
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That is awesome. Would have been a big waste of time and resources, not to mention a big hit for ongoing science if they had chosen to scrap it.
Joel - if you're still reading this thread (it's getting long) - I've been looking for a tool like this for a long time, but the lynchpin for me is the ability to track work hours so I can bill against it. I constantly run into tools that either let me track time or projects but rarely both in a way that works. This web app works well, but without time management, I'm forced to track the very same projects in another system for the sole purpose of billing. Oh what can we do here? At the very least, is there an API where we can add time tracking and billing to this?

I hope you'll see this comment!
Looking at the new features, I get the distinct impression that the F# team has a clear vision of what work their language is suited for. It's meant to process data. These changes let more of your data pipeline happen within F#, extending up to, or even into, the data providers.

I really think F# benefits from being part of .NET instead of a stand-alone language. C# is probably better for designing a system, where you have a bunch of components swimming around talking to each other and maintaining state and dealing with the outside world and whatnot. F# is better for designing a process that takes input and produces output. That F# process can then be part of a C# system. That lets the F# team not have to worry so much about the system-y stuff, and design a tighter, more-focused language. (Ditto C#--from one point of view, .NET allows F# to be a DSL for C#).
No thank you sir or madam! I only bring it up as I'm not from the US and would find it interesting to see more about the teachers in my city etc.
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I think everyone wanted to believe in Obama and they were finding reasons. I'm not sure why they did given how much support he received from the banking industry. The reason he won was because the bankers preferred him over McCain and gave him dump trucks full of money. It's easy to see why so far. Basically we've had to give the bankers foot massages because a slap on the wrist would have been too mean for their tender hearts to handle. I'm not arguing McCain would have been much better but on this kind of nonsense he definitely would have been better.

And of course Obama doesn't know anything about the market and certainly does not believe in the free market to do anything. His latest jobs program should make that painfully obvious to anyone paying attention. The notion of the technocrat appeals to people who are smart and like solving problems. They feel like any problem can be solved with a good enough team and a smart leader (as an aside why does anyone believe Obama to be anything but an average intellect). That is as FA Hayek put it a fatal conceit but it's easy to see why people fall into it. I said the same thing about Mark Cuban's comical jobs program: top down thinking is toxic to your brain.
I suspect we'll be seeing a more and more pronounced split in computing and, therefore, interfaces. On one side (the majority) will be "consumers": web, email, Facebook, maybe some light photo editing. On the other side will be the "producers": people who use Photoshop, or Matlab, or AutoCAD. Office falls somewhere in the middle... Office itself may eventually be divided along those lines, with a lightweight, tablet-friendly spinoff.

So in many cases I think you're actually talking about different users: the majority of people may eventually not need anything beyond a tablet. I also suspect the rest of us will be annoyed and inconvenienced by this trend, since it won't be aimed at us.
And here I thought I was the only one. Not to be demeaning to Kadavy--I think it's good that hackers can get design tips in a language that they speak--but every time I try to read one of his articles, I'm instantly put off by the design of his site. I hope that people can glean some good stuff from him, but from what I've seen, he's not exactly a design guru.
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Have you actually used a touch screen on a Desktop? I'm not being snarky here; I genuinely believe that you should actively try to use a touch screen with a Win8 desktop before deciding one way or the other. I do it every day, and while it is not great for everything, there are some places where it is really nice.

For example, I love having a touch monitor when I'm reading a long Word document. Why hold a mouse and use the scroll wheel as I read a 35 page spec when I can sit there casually and flip through the document as I read? Or, if I have two hands on they keyboard typing and need to switch to another window, it can be nice to just tap the screen, rather than grab the mouse, navigate to the correct place on the screen and then click the button. Touch isn't perfect for everything, and I use the mouse plenty, but it's nice to have both. The key for me, however, was that I initially had to force myself to use the touch screen - I just wasn't used to it. Once I got in the habit of using it, however, I've found it has it's place and can be nice.
This looks great. Really need to find a project to be able to do more functional programming. OData, Linq, Type Provider...all looks like a nice set of tools to use.
Although I can't read this because I'm not a subscriber, I can offer an anecdotal perspective.

This isn't only Reading and Writing. I'm a Teaching Assistant at one of many college that claim to be the Harvard of the Midwest, and have been for a few years now. Most students coming in are placed into the Calculus for non-scientists/engineers and few even have the algebra skills to survive. I'm constantly reviewing how to add fractions, factor equations, and the like, before I begin to help them on the issues of Calculus. Even worse, more students are enrolling in the past few years and less seem to be adequately prepared.
Not Woz, Bill Atkinson.

http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story...

"Smalltalk didn't even have self-repairing windows - you had to click in them to get them to repaint, and programs couldn't draw into partially obscured windows. Bill Atkinson did not know this, so he invented regions as the basis of QuickDraw and the Window Manager so that he could quickly draw in covered windows and repaint portions of windows brought to the front."
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I find your question interesting, and I am a math professor, but I have no idea of what you're building, so I can't really answer.

That said, I second sunkan's answer.
It's a good story.

According to the Apple stories I've read, Wozniak had little to no involvement with the creation of Macintosh. He was in a plane crash in 1981. When he came back to the company in 1983 he was mostly involved with the (increasingly sidelined) Apple II team.

But overlapping windows first came to Apple with the Lisa, anyhow. Some of Bill Atkinson's photos here show them from December 1979 or early 1980. Story says Bill wasn't sure whether they predated Apple's Xerox visit, or not. http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=Busy_Being_Born.t...

Anyhow, it's a good story. If it has some basis in truth it might be with s/Woz/Atkinson/ (he was their UI/graphics guru programmer) and s/Macintosh/Lisa/. :)
>If it is common knowledge, then why make an infographic about it?

Because I can't be bothered?

>Sure, you can try to artificially shorten supply and drive prices up that way. It is an age old economic strategy, but as far as I know it has never really worked before (from what I remember from economics textbooks). It would only work for a very short time. Say you hoard rice this year and sell only a little rice at exorbitant prices. Peasants the world over would increase their rice production, so next year there would be a lot more rice, plus your warehouses are already stocked to the ceiling with rice from last year. The prices will now be low - either you sell your rice for cheap, or you throw it into the river. In both cases, the attempt was not really worth it.

If I'm understanding you correctly, a similar argument was made in 2007 - it's actually really expensive to hoard millions of barrels of oil (which is what was assumed if people were speculating), it wouldn't be easy to hide and nobody had really found any evidence of it. I think Paul Krugman made this argument.

Then the bubble went POP pretty spectacularly. I think Krugman eventually admitted he was wrong there.

Hoarding wasn't necessary as the price increases from the futures market were transmitted to the actual market for oil (since most oil is bought on futures anyway, very little is bought at spot price) and the speculators weren't actually taking delivery of the oil they were just rolling the contracts forward. I assume a similar dynamic is in play for wheat right now.
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Indeed, it's essentially a live dashboard with a built-in program launcher. It shouldn't be the thing you connect to.

It's just a browsable report of the status of things you care about, with the UI more trying to get out of the way, and provide options, than be a "thing" in your world by itself.

On that note, It probably should (and perhaps will) become more subtle over time. I'd prefer it taking the same approach as classic mac os: stay in black & white so that the user's real data is in color. They won't do that, of course, but a subdued palette could really help. Of course, then the individual widgets need to really bring home their content's presentation.
1023 = 2^10 - 1.
It would have taken all the 10 fingers.
Err, he's wrong on ARM PCs not running desktop Windows, I don't see why this wrong post needs to be on top of HN. It's like there's like zombies that seem to have a need to auto upvote any post by Gruber. Maybe they're similarly misinformed.
So, you're saying later might be a better time for FB to do their IPO right now?
I don't think cohesiveness across these systems needs to be a prereq. In classic mode things should work great. In Metro mode things should work great. Bumpiness in transition, IMO, is acceptable for v1.

To put it another way, I'd much rather have bumpiness shipped on day X rather than a delay to clear up all the transition bumpiness and ship 6 months after X. Although I'd like to see updates that fix the transitions come out a 8-12 months after release.
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I don't think I'm inferring any more than I thought seemed necessary to make sense of your comment given the context. What did you mean by your original comment?
It would depend on your audience. Do you want to come across as more confident than you are or would you rather paint an accurate picture? If you're talking to an audience that is close to your level of expertise certainty can come across as "hiding something" not as confidence. Or perhaps we're a bunch of skeptics.
If anyone wants to experience the pinnacle of "Does that make sense?", I highly suggest watching Stanford's "programming paradigm" lectures by Jerry Cain (they're on youtube). He's a fantastic professor, but it almost makes the lectures unbearable after a few hours.
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Anyone else interested in the fact that this was built on top of Tumblr? Its pretty awesome how simple this idea is over Tumblr...
doesn't ASI also use blocks? its syntax is very similar. but i didn't know about that it's much faster than ASI, thanks for that
That's right, photoshop isn't going to be going Metro anytime soon, and neither is Matlab, or Autocad, or Excel, or video editing software, or any "Pro" program (for lack of a better word).

I'd actually be surprised if there isn't a fully staffed team working on a Metro version of the Office suite.
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Ah, excellent stuff. Thanks for the correction and digging that up.
I thought it was the portability and size and ease of access to apps (the ecosystem around the device) that makes the iPad successful.

All of these things are possible because of the restrictions in iOS.

For example, the lack of a filesystem forces apps to have a more simplified data access mechanism[1].

The good battery life and response time comes from the fact that the OS puts severe limits on what each app can do.

[1] - There's an escape hatch of course, with something like Dropbox
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