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> Seriously, answering that question should probably be their number 1 priority.

Spot on. Focus on nothing else but this initially. Remember Carol Bartz's answer to "What is Yahoo?"?

"What is Yahoo? Listen Yahoo is a great company that is very, very strong
in content for its users, uses amazing technology to serve up what increasingly
we think is going to be the web of one. For instance, on our today module in the
front page, every 5 minutes we have 32,000 different variations of that module.
So you don’t even know what I’m seeing in fact we serve a million different front
page modules a day and that’s just through content optimization. And that’s just
the beginning. Customized because we know the things you’re interested in. Maybe
you don’t like light entertainment maybe you like a certain sports team, etc. And
our click through rate went up twice. So the point is, people come to us to find
out what is going on with the world in a very nice quick fashion to do their
communications, email, messanger, check-in on their teens. We all know about
Yahoo finance. It’s a places where you can just get it together. It’s collated
for you, it’s all the things as you’re moving, you can even get your social
information there. Everybody moves through many websites in a day, Yahoo is one
they always stop at."

Ouch.

Link: http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/28/ok-seriously-what-is-yahoo/
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The FFI point was a factor why I have not used/updated libwm recently. libwm is C++ with constructors, destructors and exceptions. The semantics of C++ make it poor for FFI. Some interpreter-based languages can somewhat do it (e.g. python), but on a compiler based language like Haskell it becomes a bit painful.

Another factor was that libwm supports a lot of legacy API's, like GLX 1.0. I wanted to support my g/f's crappy intel based macbook because at the time I was sometimes stuck that as my only computer.

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Note also that code of average architectural quality will require about 1 maintenance day per year per 80 LoC just by virtue (vice?) of existing. (Paul Graham: a full-time maintenance engineer can own 20,000 lines of code.)

This is true in my personal observation. I mostly wrote two pieces of software rougly 50,000 lines each, and it's my limit of manageability.
Will need splitting up and modularizing if it needs to get larger.
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though you wont find either on your fresh gentoo install
Why? vi and its derivates has their own (weird) usage-convention which you will find in no other software anywhere on the planet. Learning them gives you very few transferable skills.

Any "Unixy" thing you have around these days will have more resources than most computes did in the mid 90s, and the need for a "lightweight" editor like vi is much, much smaller now than it was back then. Even my Buffalo router has nano.

For most Linux distros you install, you typically have nano, pico, joe, jedit or emacs or lots of other editors which (apart from emacs which is its own universe) largely follows the same conventions and at large gives transferable skills. These are IMO much more useful to know.

Why should I bother learning an archaic, non-standard editor from an era when "line-editors" were considered bloated? Why should it even be considered "relevant" today? Even more so, why should it be considered "essential"?

I really don't agree and I really don't see why vi-users insist everyone need to learn their favourite editor.
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Reply to above, and siblings.

FTA: "If you learn to use Emacs, you will automatically learn the hotkeys and keybindings in hundreds of applications in Unix."

His point here is not to learn Emacs because it's a good editor, but because the keystrokes transfer to "hundreds of applications in Unix."

Which is true enough. In the (bash etc) shell you can change that to vi keystrokes with set -o vi, and you can change the behavior of those hundreds of applications (like mysql, e.g) by having a .inputrc file, but by default, lots of those apps use emacs keystrokes.

Use whatever editor you want, for whatever reason you want. His suggestion is worth considering, for the reason he states.
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Rise in wages in China/Taiwan/India more or less follows wage rise in USA and EU and other developed countries.

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Like Arrington/TC or not, it is hard to deny that since the AOL acquisition that TC has gone above and beyond to make sure they assert their independence.

It's very interesting to see the internal politics spill out on the main page, and it's fascinating to see the struggle between the competing entities after an acquisition.

I think many/most other media acquisitions would have squashed this - imagine any of News Corp media outlets EVER writing/reporting a negative story about News Corp, and the same would go for NBC and MSNBC of GE, and all the others.

I must say, although it can be construed as just grandstanding and attention grabbing, Mike and the TC team have gotten a few extra points from me over these episodes.

Sure, they may have overdone it at times, but it couldn't have been easy for Arrington to stand by and watch his reporters str8 up tell his new overlords "Fuck Off" (literally - one of TC's bloggers tweeted that, can't remember which one).

Glad to see them publicly wrestle with their independence. There is something brave about doing it in public.
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Yahoo is just an agglomeration of crap, some of which is successful, some of which isn't. It only looks like a big thing because there's so much of it. If I were to take over yahoo I'd break it up into component parts and let them fare as they will. Yahoo stores would probably do just fine, maybe Flickr would find some new vigor, as for all the rest, who knows? But it's probably better than the slow, suffocating decline they're facing now.
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"Why? vi and its derivates has their own (weird) usage-convention which you will find in no other software anywhere on the planet. Learning them gives you very few transferable skills."

Arrgghhh!

man readline, and search (/) for inputrc.

ANY app that uses readline can be set to use vi OR emacs keystrokes and history, by setting an entry in .inputrc. If you use either editor regularly this will set your command line skills in lots of software all over the planet to warp speed.

If you write python command line programs, try "import readline."

Harumph!
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Funny you should mention shame. I used to feel it about my code. Then I realized everyone else's code was probably just as ugly from their own point of view. We coders tend to be perfectionists. Then I met _why. Then I (almost) stopped caring about code beauty and (completely) moved my focus to code that just plain works. Funny thing is, my code is much better looking these days. Mostly.

But you were probably mentioning shame in the context of not having the projects finished. Felt that too. But that's the great thing about github; it's completely natural for code hosted there to be works in progress.

All in all, what I'm saying is that making your code public just plain ends the shame and the feelings of inadequacy, much like looking at spiders and learning about them helps with arachnophobia. It's a shock therapy of sorts.
Surely smacking the left hand side of your monitor should produce a line return, typewriter style? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A-R1koiUv4
I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu, Debian, and Centos come with nano preinstalled. nano isn't nearly as powerful of an editor as emacs or vi, but it's got most of the basic features you'll need when you're just trying to get the network up and running, for instance. I'm not entirely convinced that, for an emacs user, the added power of vi over nano is worth it in the corner cases where you can't use emacs through SSH, considering how difficult an editor it is to learn.
Sometimes people will admit they didn't click the link or read the article but have something meaningful and valuable to add in response to a specific comment. I don't see any reason to discourage such contributions by increasing the burden to participate. It's easy enough to downvote people doing the knee-jerk thing and making themselves look like jerks. So I think there is already a mechanism in place for addressing this issue. In most cases, upping the ante with increasing attempts to control people (which is basically what this suggestion amounts to) are a net social negative.
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This got me to thinking. Can anybody think of any Yahoo property that appears to have received more than, say, the equivalent of 6 months work from a single dev over the course of the last 5 years? Flickr has seen some teeny tiny changes but everything else seems to be stuck in perpetual stasis.
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Another [dead] comment:

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In the case of my blog post I would say you are 100% correct. Without a doubt I was unable to get my point across since Mr. Pollack, whose work on Lift I respect, thinks that I attacked him personally instead of his point. As for my more general tone-deafness and inability to communicate using the English language I can only say that if I keep at it, then maybe I'll one day be successful.
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Thanks for submitting this gtzi. Any questions, I'm here (or if you're old-skool, add a comment to the blog). :)

I really _am_ curious about why people have deadlines...isn't it ready when it's ready? :)

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Buy duckduckgo and replace yahoo's antiquated search and results layout would be a great start.

Otherwise, a seriously minimalistic ui overhaul is in order.
To your point 5, yes.

Google is cool because it lets you search for cool stuff, but they aren't anything identifiable except as they find cool stuff for you. gmail and plus, sort of, I guess.

Yahoo can BE cool stuff.
What has this got to with the concept of DevDays other than blatant fanboyism and a plug for github?
Yes. Actually, I don't understand why people emphasize on touch typing here. Engineering is not a data entry job.
He's not getting downvoted, he's getting flagged - mere downvotes don't result in [dead] comments.

I didn't follow the whole discussion (especially since I was on holidays), but the comments I saw were not obviously worthy of being [dead]; hence my repost.
You can still jump directly to a numbered space by pressing "control" and any number key. This is default behavior as far as I know, but I might have switched a setting for it.

For consistent behavior, disable "Automatically rearrange spaces based on most recent use" in the mission control system preferences.
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Here's a meta-comment: change your submission title to an actual idea/tagline/name, to give people some sort of clue what it is about - pique their interest so they click on the link and spend a couple of minutes looking at the slides.

It also helps if you post a comment (here) giving more context about the idea (eg. how/why/when you came up with it, why you think it's important, etc). Ideally you'd make a text submission and provide a link in it instead of submitting the URL directly, but in any case, giving a bit more context will surely help.

(sorry to go meta on you; these are just my observations from a few similar mistakes i did; my last "please shoot down my idea" post got 0 comments).
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why?

P.S. - if you can answer without the elitist bullshit, people will probably stop down voting you.
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Yeah, it's probably going to be really difficult. May as well not even bother trying. Best to just pick holes in it and offer up no constructive criticism.

Well done you (slow clap)

I'm so tired of people shooting stuff down for the sake of it.
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I'd especially like to point out that vi is the de facto editor in embedded Linux installs, since it comes with busybox. Unless you want to constantly shuffle files around between your machine and the embedded one, you just have to learn vi.
First, the board should decide: media company or tech company.

If Yahoo! is a media company -- which is more conservative since its peers would be AOL, Viacom, et al., and not Google, Facebook, et al. -- then merge/acquire Netflix ($11.5B market cap) and anoint Reed Hastings CEO. Let him navigate Nethoo through the transition to new media. Combining distribution and content failed for AOL-TW, but with the media industry in flux and with more content surfacing from the grassroots, perhaps now is the time for vertical integration.

If technology, then Yahoo! needs a new culture and a bold vision to attract the most talented engineers. No ambitious engineer wants to slave under PMs when they could flourish in engineering-oriented companies like Google and Facebook.

Yahoo!'s mission? Help users discover, personalize, and consume content.

Be the service -- mobile or web -- people turn to when they have nothing to do, when they want to find a cool article, deal, song, video, picture, restaurant, conversation, or event.

Today, Google is where you go when you know what you want. Yahoo! could help people upstream of search -- before people know what they want. Which, conveniently, is most of the time.

Lots of companies tackle the problem in different areas: Digg with news, Pandora with music, Yelp with local businesses, Instagram with photos, Groupon with deals.

With content proliferating faster than ever before, there is a need for some service to help people discover and consume content. Users don't want to hunt for content. They want the coolest deals, music, shows, restaurants, and news to come to them.

Analyzing the web for the most relevant content -- no matter the type -- at a personalized level is non-trivial. Because it's a daunting technical problem, it will attract smart engineers.

Despite the naysayers, Yahoo! occupies an enviable position with massive assets: hundreds of millions of users, deep advertiser relationships, and an iconic brand. The question is how to organize these assets into a sustainable and promising company.

Yahoo! has the cash flow to acquire some pieces, perhaps go private, and execute against some vision.

There is an opportunity to once again innovate with compelling technology and recruit talented engineers. There is an opportunity to help users navigate the explosion of online content in a smarter, more natural way. There is an opportunity for Yahoo! to reassert itself as one of the premier companies in Silicon Valley, one led by pioneering technology.
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Yahoo was about organizing web sites in an easy to use hierarchical structure, not about searching. If you wanted to learn about "python" the programming language, you'd click computers->programming languages->Python and get a nice list of vetted sites about python. If you wanted to learn about python snakes, you'd click animals->reptiles->snakes->pythons and get another list of vetted sites about snakes. And back in the days when the web was small and search sucked, this was a great way to find sites. Yahoo has been floundering ever since the web grew too big for this approach to be practical, and Alta Vista worked out how to make search work.
Good point. I do remember someone from Yahoo who spoke at the first Startup School about the webmail redesign - but that was five or six years ago. Why is everything stuck in perpetual stasis over there? Is it that the leadership doesn't have the vision to suggest or sign off on major redesigns, or that middle management can't make them happen?
Faster typing is more code is better. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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ed/ex is well worth learning. The other vi commands are less so, unless you prefer to use vim as your main editor.

If you are a vim power user, finding yourself using traditional BSD vi is likely to be an unpleasant experience, making the vim is great because vi is installed everywhere weak as an argument.