skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
"I always find it hilarious that the pre college education in US is so messed up. Instead of doing Algebra 1, Algebra 2, calculus, geometry as one subject that you do in a year and then completely forgetting about it till the next time you have to do it, how about you do a little bit of everything every year from grade 8-12. Problem solved."

In my experience, each year built off of the previous and implicitly provided a refresher.
Then why did this trend only emerge in April? The population of young people being vaccinated has increased since then.
You should keep a record of what you're doing and why, but getting clear and accurate feedback from the real decision makers who have control over the technical success of your product is essential.
> ...Some people feel incredibly angry at it, as someone in their life almost forced them into using it when they didn't want to.

This is a really good point, and it's an angle I didn't honestly consider. NVC is a goddamn superpower for dealing with people who are being difficult... I guess it makes sense that there are people who have been on the receiving end, and couldn't get their own needs met.

I'm really glad we both participated in this discussion... Really nice to get an eye-opener like this.
>It would also likely result in a backlash against interest in GOF research in general.

If general GOF research caused this pandemic, then maybe there should be a backlash against it. Lot's of science doesn't happen because it's too dangerous to human lives, even if the theoretical benefits outweigh the costs.
> Though something along the lines of discord's nitro would be a nicer way to fund things. I wonder why telegram doesn't do something like that.

i’m placing my bet that they soon will

they can’t lose money forever
This happened with Premise Data in their last round. Prospective employees beware.
I really hate sarcasm tags and I really appreciate this comment.
If your node_modules is 3.7GB, you are doing something seriously wrong. My node_modules for a 100k+ line app is 243MB and that includes all my dependencies, compiler and testing frameworks which seems very reasonable. All compiled down to a 4MB blob which seems pretty reasonable for a big app :)
Are you not able to see the special font that sarcastic comments are rendered in?
> At high scale

so basically you mean that this only applies to like 0.001% of all websites/apps.

thus it's stupid to do it. I mean even than you would have an error that you need to bubble up or circuit break it somwhere but probably not at this layer.

also KISS and MVP, never ever overcomplicate something when you do not know anything yet, so most people don't need to built for scale at day 1 and it also is stupid to do it.
I don’t even think we have A-level equivalents in Canada. We have the American AP courses, which carry 1st year university / college credit. We also have the IB diploma program available (seems to be of European origin), which can also grant 1st year credit. However these programs aren’t available at all schools.

A regular Canadian high school graduate is not eligible for admissions to many of the UK universities based on the little time I’ve spent looking at the admissions standards.
Yes, for instance in Illinois there is a specific crime for violating terms of service:

720 ILCS 5/17-51(a-10)(1) Computer tampering

https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=0...
I've worked with a lot of Europeans and overwhelmingly they are not on H-1B visas.

Green cards, L-1, O-1 and spouse visas are the way to go.

Getting an O-1 visa in the software space is a lot easier than you think, especially with the way the software industry works in Europe (it's a much smaller pool with a higher average level of education and way more public speaking & publishing opportunities) in general the requirements are easier than if I were to have to try for it.
> If racism is actually causing blacks and Hispanics to not make it into advanced classes then why are Asians making it in?

Because immigration policy and conditions highly selects Asians for educational achievement.

Hispanic immigrants are basically selected inversely, whereas blacks are overwhelmingly not immigrants or early-generation Americans.

https://items.ssrc.org/from-our-programs/it-takes-more-than-...
Most of the comments in here are way way off base.

First off, I believe in and trust the policy experts. If they are saying that algebra for everyone as a compulsory subject in grade 9 isn't helpful, it's quite possible they know what they are talking about.

A lot of the comments in here are varities of "if you don't try harder then you wont win" basically. The problem... is that really how teaching kids work? How do you know that is how it works? Your N=1 personal experience is not really the right evidence for running a state-wide policy. Additionally, some of you are probably 99th percentile intelligence, and really what worked for you won't work for, say, the other 99% of people.

Secondly, education is a complex issue. Schools are being expected to pick up the slack from every single societal problem, all the while Oh So Smart People endlessly shit on them. I'm not even joking about every single societal problem... here are some things schools are expected to pick up for:
- Food poverty: Feeding kids at school because they didn't eat at home
- Food quality: Feeding kids RIGHT with GOOD food
- Parental availability: Hard to read to your kids when you are working tons of hours or extra jobs. Schools are expected to paper over this deficit.
- Redlining/poverty: Schools are expected to raise kids up out of poverty, with practically no other help, and a lot of un-help (police at schools arent helping)
- Gun violence: Kids are expected to do active shooter drills, nuff said. That's messed up.

One thing to remember about people who are from other places like India and such, if you are here and commenting here, perhaps your school isn't a representative sample of everyone where you were from. Here in the US, it's common for private school to kick out kids who don't academically perform, which means you have a self selection effect. So pointing out that "private schools do X why can't everyone do X" is useless, because the schools have, by definition, selected those students that can do X and everyone else was dropped on the floor.
Do you know you can download more packs / create your own?

https://signalstickers.com/

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360031836512-St...
Don't know if parent has been edited to correct something, but:

9: 14-15

10: 15-16

11: 16-17

12: 17-18
If you believe that anyone counting cents is aware or concerned with it being "rich in protein" by your standards then count yourself among the disconnected. Survival is first.

"Geez"
It's notable that Cupertino has some remarkable public schools, with high schools that have about half of their math faculty as Calculus teachers, and half of the students incoming from junior high are on track to finish Calculus by their junior year. Some students continue their math education at local colleges.

Part of the success is most certainly the student culture, which pushes far harder than the faculty. It's one thing for a school to offer opportunity for advanced math (and in that sense Khan Academy already offers this); it's quite another for peer pressure to demand it.
I guess growing up people would toss a few bucks in the collection plate. It wasn’t until I was an adult that I learned that my Dad would write a significant check to the church every month in addition to the few dollars we passed in the plate (we were a blue collar family, but my parents prioritized tithing, which helped to subsidize the school that was affiliated with the church). My understanding is that the plate is not a significant portion of the church’s revenue, but maybe other churches put larger checks into the collection plate.
I hate to be that guy, but... it's not irony.

In this case, it's design. Increasing social injustice is the whole point, because that ensures increased political power for those who campaign on social justice.
If you turn 15 in 9th grade, you will turn 18 in 12th grade.
Well, unless latency is explicitly a problem with the default (G1) GC, it probably should not be changed to begin with. It is a beast of a GC with a very good balance between throughput and latency. Also, if the latter is problematic, the first thing should be to fiddle with the singular G1 knob (one should set, unless they really know what they are doing), target pause time — throughput and latency are fundamentally opposing goals.

G1 by default has low enough pauses as well, but it does increase with the speed of garbage creation. But it handles even ridiculously high throughputs with graceful degradation of pause times.

Here is a really great blog on various aspects of modern GCs (and don’t forget that we are at Java 17, with small but significant GC updates in each version): https://jet-start.sh/blog/2020/06/23/jdk-gc-benchmarks-remat...
The way math is taught in primary school is a disaster. Paul Lockhart's "A Mathematician’s Lament" puts it better than I could, and is worth reading in full (it's hard to find just one quote to provide here): https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/LockhartsLament.....

Maybe one section that's relevant here is the one on "pseudo-mathematics":

> The cultural problem is a self-perpetuating monster: students learn about math from their teachers, and teachers learn about it from their teachers, so this lack of understanding and appreciation for mathematics in our culture replicates itself indefinitely. Worse, the perpetuation of this “pseudo-mathematics,” this emphasis on the accurate yet mindless manipulation of symbols, creates its own culture and its own set of values. Those who have become adept at it derive a great deal of self-esteem from their success. The last thing they want to hear is that math is really about raw creativity and aesthetic sensitivity. Many a graduate student has come to grief when they discover, after a decade of being told they were “good at math,” that in fact they have no real mathematical talent and are just very good at following directions. Math is not about following directions, it’s about making new directions.

Many people on this website did well at the pseudo-mathematics taught in schools and think of themselves as being improved by learning it. If this (pseudo-)math is what distinguishes the "smart kids" from the rest, our "smart kids" will be harmed by delaying it. But what if the pseudo-math and the concept of "smart kid" it creates is actually harmful, both to the practice of real math and to the kids' own sense of self-worth?
> The students with a delayed introduction caught up so quickly that the delay didn’t matter

Yes and there are some kids that act up or learn to hate education and the system for being forced into what amounts to remedial classes. Sometimes the brightest children are the most difficult precisely because they're not being challenged.

The ideal would be to have every student learn at their own pace. Some children could comprehend algebra in 8th grade, others may never fully comprehend it.

Obviously that's impossible at scale. So the best we can do is to separate kids based on ability and interest. Some children can grasp more advanced concepts at an earlier age, while others struggle. That's why generally in schools we have standard classes, special education and gifted classes. The best schools separate it even further offering additional lessons or tutoring to children that are especially curious or require more work.

Everyone benefits. This is common sense.

There's no such thing as "appropriate topics" for an age. It's all child specific.
Not all students are like you. I went to a low-ranked university my first year before transferring out. I met freshmen who really struggled with basic concepts, like what a vector is. I'm not sure they would ever get it even with all the tutoring in the world.
> Who should be making the rules if not the creator and maintainer of the product/service?

Many things should be up to them, but many things should be up to the buyer.
In the United States, most churches are open to anyone who wants to come in, but often being a "member" of the church requires providing some form of formal support, such as tithing (members typically have at least some say in church policy, while random congregants do not). Congregants (who may not be official members) also generally add something to the collection plate when it comes around.

Some countries still have "established" churches, which historically received direct government support from tax money (this is not always the case today... while the Church of England is still the "established" church in England, it no longer receives direct taxpayer support). Others may have a group of recognized churches that can receive taxpayer support (Germany is that way, I believe... you declare your religious affiliation, and if it is on the government-approved list, the government tax authorities will collect the tax and remit it to the church).
This is extremely disappointing.... California is quickly becoming the worst place to grow up
Social media bias. If you are happy with your work, you spend your time working. If you love your family, you spend time with them. If you have a rewarding hobby, you enjoy pursuing it. If you are a bitter miserable loser with nothing else to do, you spend your day shitposting on Twitter.
I'm pretty sure that's the current UK prime minister, Boris Johnson, in the bowler hat at the start of the video. Obviously he was a lot younger back then but it's him, right?
Trees can't split every oxide.
Tell us a little bit about your Indian high school experience. Who were your peers? Who were their parents, where were they from, how wealthy were they? How wealthy was you? Did the school have competitive entry? Did kids get kicked out for failing or doing poorly?
Could be used for attempting to find metadata on users then, etc. there’s a few things I could guess.
Not from California, but I took algebra in 7th grade - it was the advanced math course in my public middle school. It was a much-welcomed safe haven from the other classes - the middle schoolers here were actually SMART. In that class I sat next to a guy who taught me how to program the TI-84. We would spend all class programming, making games, and just learning.

Now, over a decade later, I am a professional software engineer. Sitting next to that guy in my 7th grade algebra class set my life on a course that turned out to be great. It makes me sad to know that future students won't be able to have such opportunities to be surrounded by similarly smart people. In the rest of my middle school classes the disrespect, distracting behavior, bullying, etc. were totally out of control - now I guess students won't know anything different.

I think this is a TERRIBLE decision, pushed by radical leftists that are completely out of touch with regular people. I wonder how much farther California and its cities will fall before people wake up.
Good grief, how can that even work? If I had gone a full one or two years without any math class, I would have lost the habit and floundered when it came time to take a math class again. Are they deliberately setting kids up to fail in California?
> You can't seriously expect people to tolerate restrictions indefinitely.

Honest question: Why not?

2019 is not some magical single gold standard Right Amount Of Personal Freedom. Behaviors become subject to restriction all the time (and also some other restrictions become lax or disappear over time). Taboos come and go. Society changes and the set of acceptable behaviors can also change with time.

I remember similar arguments being used back when seat belt laws were introduced. "I'll never wear those things!" "They wrinkle my clothing!" "They're tyranny!" "People will not tolerate making them mandatory!" But... now we do tolerate it. Same with anti-smoking laws. Society is very flexible and capable of changing.

There are a lot of dangerous things that were regularly done in the past, but are now forbidden, or even taboo. I don't see why things like masks, distancing, and limits to indoor occupancy are un-changeable special cases.
you people don’t realize how bad things are going for Telegram

0) they have extreme operational expenses (they choose to invest into their own infra instead of using cloud)

1) they make no revenue

2) they have no business model

3) they failed ICO, got in trouble with SEC and now owe lots of debt

4) they don’t want to raise money or sell

5) they don’t want to make money off users
I think it’s better we do know because that should lead to refinements in licences (eg a GPLv4 that explicitly allows humans to write original works conceptually based off content read but not derived from code from; while explicitly disallowing code use for machine learning except where the published work is also licensed GPL).
Talk about what?
Just a heads up, many (all?) of your comments (including this one) show as dead. I vouched for this one. Might want to contact a moderator or something.
maybe detach another O and use the C for graphite/organics?
What are the problems here?

> Suppose that Small Co sells the assets of a business unit to Big Co. Do you now have a contract with Small Co. or Big Co.? Small Co. no longer has the rights to the software

That's right, that's what they sold.

> Big Co. may not agree to the terms of the old license.

Then I guess maybe they shouldn't have bought it.

> Suppose someone dies and their assets go to their heirs. Do you now have a contract with the heirs?

Yes. They inherited the deceased's assets.

> What if there are no heirs, so the assets go to the government? Do you now have a contract with the government?

You'd probably have to ask an estate planning attorney about the specifics of this, but so what if you did?

> I can think of some fun terms to add to a software license from someone on their deathbed if that's the case.

You should totally do it lol
Surprised NSO Group hasn't already rolled over like Cambridge Analytica
The question in my mind is, how useful is calculus in most people's lives?
> with high schools that have about half of their math faculty as Calculus teachers

What does this mean? Is there some special qualification or licence to be allowed to teach calculus?
> to hold it accountable for the surveillance and targeting of Apple users.

What exactly does that mean? Fine them? Get them to stop? Have them publicly say, "my bad?" I suspect the larger goal is to find out exactly how NSO is bypassing Apple's very expensive security and plugging it? Is that specific info the type of thing Apple can get their hands on (actual code, etc) for this type of trial?
Telegram works EVERYWHERE esp with its web browser support. Signal for some reason tends to ignore Android tablets and ARM on ChromeOS & Windows.
I am sorry but I don't think you have any idea of what you are talking about. No, I am not N=1, nor was I upper X percentile of my peers in India.

CBSE and ICSE boards, 2 of the major boards of education in India had calculus in grade 11 and 12. This wasn't me being exceptional, it was standard practice and millions of us learnt it. The millions of kids in India in CBSE and ICSE board education is much higher than CA's population.

You can check out the syllabus for grade 11 for ICSE board:

https://www.cisce.org/pdf/ISC-Class-XII-Syllabus-2016/17.%20...

Very basic differential calculus was introduced in grade 9/10 and then by grade 11, we were performing decently advanced differential calculus. In grade 11, integration calculus was also introduced and it went on to pretty advanced level by grade 12.

Calculus was also used in our Physics classes, so it was pretty much needed.

> try to teach a 3 month old how to walk

That's a ridiculous comparison.
We used to have an accelerated/gifted track in US to take more advanced courses. One got evaluated around 7th grade to make that decision. The difference in skill level was huge because the final year I took it easy and did the regular courses and it was basically a cakewalk.
This is stupid.

In the 80s it was not uncommon (at least in the Jesuit schools I attended) that Algebraic concepts would be introduced to students at early as 5th grade, but definitely by junior high (7th/8th) and while I hated math (especially at the time) it wasn't something I thought I needed to be older to grok...I needed less psychotic, rigid teaching from nuns with all the compassion of Stalin, and more guidance, which other students in similar schools got in spades and had no issue with.
The labor pool isn't any cheaper in NYC. Salaries are significantly higher than London.

He's in for a harsh reality.
You can use Tree Style Tab or similar (AFAIR there are a few different extensions with different tradeoffs for similar features).
>Nobody could even get society to do basic pandemic stuff like wear masks or take vaccines. How would they ever coordinate "build more hospitals and train more nurses"

The answer is pretty simple. You don't need mass coordination to build more hospitals.

It requires 1 person (the president) to agree to build emergency hospitals, or at worst 51% of 535 people in congress.

Compare this to requiring 330 million people to continually agree and coordinate basic pandemic behavior like masks and vaccines.

There are less than 1000 covid ICU patients in California today and 12,000 in the entire country. China built a 1000 bed covid hospital in 10 days and staffed it with army nurses.
I am saying that the logical proposition in your comment is inarguably true. You’ve classified good engineers as those that know the things that make good engineers good and then stated that most all good engineers know these things.

It sounds like you are now also saying you only work with good engineers and also that good acceptably applies to the set of engineers in the top 95th percentile. I don’t think my tautology comment contests anything you’ve said.

I would say your experience seems to be biased. In my experience it’s usually a coin toss or two (top 50-25th percentile) wether an engineer just knows syntax or actually understands the machine they’re programming. But that’s just anecdotal and it doesn't seem super apropos to quibble over where that line is drawn at a population level in this thread.
> greatly increasing the number of administrators ("Vice-Presidents")

I like to call them "Junior Assistant Vice Sub-Deans", and most academic institutions in the United States are infested with them.
OP here - at least for the link. My colleague Ram Gall wrote the post. Haven't seen an official announcement that mentions all the affected resellers like this. We reached out via a friend who works at GoDaddy who put us in contact with the spokesperson who gave us the quote included in the post. That lists the specifically affected hosts.
Well that is the very definition of targeted ads, Telegram is mostly crypto scams or some kinda dodgy nonsense. It's the only reason it's used.
The only thing distributed along the bell curve is adults who are willing to help the kids. Yes for some kids it will come pretty easy, even at very young ages, but even very young children can learn these concepts if you would just spend some time teaching it to them.

When you have a system set up to force one adult to teach 30+ children you will never be able to spend the time required to ensure everyone gets the concept, but that neglect comes at the cost of compressing the learning in later years which still only benefits those who have high aptitude. Which is exactly why they are pushing it back further, not because it will help kids learn more, but because more children will have the ability to learn it without much interaction from an instructor.
Good for you. I met kids in 4th grade who struggled with their multiplication tables. What do you do for them?
Does this person think a plant has only one root?
The bad schools will embrace it though, further exacerbating unequal access to good education.
I suppose it's a disability of mine.