skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Remember that just because the market is closed, things still happen, and you can keep an eye on the after hours price.

Edit: as pointed out below, after/pre-hoursm
I'm preparing a presentation for the HN Meetup in London tomorrow and I used Apple as a 'forthcoming' example of Succession and its impact on equity/ share value. Guess I better reword that bit now, and again when the markets open tomorrow.
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Possibly. I'd rather see more data before predicting the future.

Death isn't a single nor simple event; it's a progression.

Hypothermia, for instance, has seen changes in training and protocols.

Changes in geriatric procedures and medicines, too.

Laws, too, change. Sometimes positively. Sometimes not.

Medical practice? That too changes.

These practices and these legal areas all tend to move slowly and sometimes seemingly too slowly, and with considerations beyond a single survival. With caution. Sometimes with consideration of the equipment costs, of patient outcomes, of training costs and a number of trade-offs all apply. Sometimes not.

One of the problems for emergency services can involve competing requirements for time and training. Various of the the "great ideas" that are around, and that become standards or sometimes legal requirements. Cases which involve training requirements for events or situations or patient conditions that field providers will likely never encounter, but for which training is required. Or cases where the same training has been repackaged by some other entity, mandated, and whole organizations has to go through what is effectively the same training all over again.

And then there are the inevitable politics.

If this stuff is running "correctly", it's based on evidence and on the needs of the local community. But it's all a compromise. It's sometimes messy. And everybody eventually dies.
It's difficult to imagine this could be for any reason other than his illness, but I'd like to hope against hope.
CNN Reporting Steve Jobs Resigns.
Steve Jobs resigns as CEO, named chairman
Steve will now be Chairman of the Board, to answer some questions from other comments. It's hard to see how this does not at least hint at some more bad health news, although I too hope that it does not mean this. Here's Steve's letter to the Board:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Letter-from-Steve-bw-220060757...
Truly the end of an epoch in computing, assuming his influence fades quickly in a much reduced role at Apple.
This article is pretty vague on the details of 'why' he resigned. Does anyone have more information?

All the best to Steve and his family..
I was really hoping that such succession news would be delivered by the man himself, if and when it happened. But I presume that's not going to happen.

All the best to Steve and his family.
Apple just confirmed Cook will replace Jobs as CEO.
Jeez, out of the blue, but completely expected given his health issues.

I wonder what the stock is going to do. In after hours trading, it is down -0.68% after being up 0.69% on the day.
Clearly: Its illegal.

I assume due mainly to the cost to consumers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_spam#Criminality_a...

If we were charged on the amount of emails received, it might be illegal to receive spam through that as well :p
Someone needs to make an SDK for photo filters that allow apps to easily put photo filters in their app. It seems like you would be able to charge for this pretty easily as well.
I don't think the word "invented" is much better an analogy for real numbers than "position" is for "where" the Mandelbrot Set is.

This goes beyond what is strictly math, but I don't think it's reasonable to say that properties of the real numbers (say, roots, pi, e, and so forth) are invented. In some sense they seem like the simplest thing that fits a few properties (and not that many). Similarly with Euclidean Geometry, and the natural numbers (with primes and their structure, etc.) I really actually think something akin to Occam's Razor applies in math!

You can of course tweak your starting points and get really interesting things too, say non-standard analysis or non-Euclidean geometries. And you can derive (I would say "discover") some rich and surprising properties and patterns in them.

But I don't think any of these things are accidental. The real numbers (and pi, e, etc) would surely be "invented" in the same (modulo shifts in convention) ways by other advanced civilizations, I think. Could you imagine this not being so?

This is also extra-mathematical, and I admit this may be hooey, but I believe (as a non-mathematician) that math gives hints at large patterns and tells you when things fit well or are funny. Like, I can argue whether Pi or 2*Pi is the more "natural" constant, and it's not a discussion completely devoid of content! Also, I think math tells me something is funny about 0^0 (because of the limit 0^x) but that 1 is the more natural fit.

I realize this puts me quite firmly into the category of people being belittled here!
Because text messages do cost money to send. Email doesn't.
I have to insert one mild troll here: you seem to be writing in the voice of an Apple investor, yet from context you seem more like a user or developer. Why is the value of AAPL a universal good? Seems like it's quite high enough already.
"I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.

I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.

As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.

I believe Apple’s brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.

I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you."

From the WSJ blog: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/08/24/steve-jobs-resigns-as-...

EDIT: Now posted on Apple.com: http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2011/08/24Letter-from-Steve-...
You're sad because you are sensing that there's no replacement for The Steve, either inside Apple or outside.

And you're right.
My point is, many concepts in math do not exist outside of the models describing them, while if we throw away physical models, the reality does not go away.
End of an era definitely. No-one can deny that Jobs has had one of the the most successful turnaround careers ever.
Because the executive's performance depends on the team he's working with. If there's mismatch between the executive's leadership and the team, that will result in difficulties regardless of his skill.
Fallen Apple: Steve Jobs resigns
I'm sad about this in the same way I'm bummed when a great athlete retires. We've witness one of the greatest turnarounds in history, and though I'm confident that Apple will remain strong, it sucks to see this happen.

That said, when the market dips, buy, buy, buy.
As sad as this is, I really am looking forward to see how the company evolves the culture that he's created.
It's wise to do this now, in a controlled manner. All the same, it's going to be interesting to see what happens with Apple in the long run.
Clearly, he was just as bummed about webOS as everyone else.
Steve Jobs resigns
Yeah but they've either not picked the right companies or they're simply taking out player to protect their incumbent positon. They're not doing anything with the technology that acquired.
AAPL is still going to tank.
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I wonder if this has been timed specifically prior to a major product release (iPhone 5) to help combat any stock drop.
One of the most iconic leader of our times. I will miss his keynotes. They were simply joy to watch.

The famous advert "Here's to the crazy ones..misfits.." totally applies to his career. I'm sure if AAPL ever recreates the same ad, he deserves his spot in there.
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deleted, since: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2922792 said roughly the same thing and 6 minutes earlier.
>most of us don't have a good conceptual model for what exponents really do

Instead of matching math to real world objects (1= one banana, 2 = two bananas, 1+2 = 3 bananas etc. ) and building up to exponentiation, multiplication etc. thereby introducing all sorts of paradoxes, group theory dodges all that and treats the whole thing as a very consistent rule-based system. Things fall into place quickly once the rules are laid out explicitly.

Consider:
finite abelian group with only 3 elements a,b,c.
Given a+b=c, a+c=a, what's b+b ?
Hmmm...okay, if a plus c is a, then c is acting like zero. So b+c must be b.
since addition is commutative (abelian gp), b+a must be a+b which you said was c.
So now we know b+a=c, b+c=b, so b+b better be a !

Students are easily convinced because you've laid out the rules very explicitly. In fact, they'll try to convince you that b plus b better be a because that's the only way to make the cayley table work out!
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayley_table)

There are several books that argue that the teaching of Abstract Algebra must precede Calculus for this very reason. With Calculus, the mapping of math to real-world objects leads to all sorts of messy realities. With group theory, you dodge that mess by simply stating rules upfront.
That's a stretch, to put it mildly.
I assume you meant "Tim Cook" (the COO).
The way he worded his reasoning, makes it sounds like a health issue. I honestly hope that this is not the case.
Sad day..I think I must have watched his stanford commencement speech at least a dozen times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc&feature=youtu...
You mean Tim Cook.
STEVE JOBS RESIGNS AS CEO OF APPLE
Wow there are 9 duplicate stories on HN right now.

Doesn't HN have a duplicate submission filter?
Steve Jobs Resigns as Apple CEO ~ THN
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The Edison of our generation. Sad to see Jobs go and hopefully his health has not gotten worse. The greatest turnaround of a company ever – Steve will leave a long legacy.
Not for very long. There's no real reason for it to do so. This was entirely predictable. Sure, a bunch of people are going to short, but they'll be sorry they did.
Not a troll... a good question. The answer is I am all of those. The high value of AAPL is not a common good (although it's obviously good for me), but I was referring more to the constant fear in the markets of the eminent instability of the stock. There are many who believe that Apple IS Steve Jobs. I disagree, but it will be nice to see them come out of his shadow. And Apple will be a much easier stock to judge from an investment standpoint when that happens.
After hours trading is over too.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=aapl
The best indicator will probably be pre-trading-hours tomorrow.
>Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world...

Not exactly objective reporting is it?
This hints it's probably about health reasons, which is the saddest part.
Well, yeah, it's in the article.
This is the first time I have personally felt sad when a CEO has quit his company.
I hate to be that guy, but this isn't "Design Secrets For Engineers", it's "Design Secrets For Software Engineers." (or developers/UIX/etc).

"Keep visual hierarchy in check" and "Use designer fonts" isn't very useful advice in designing an instrumented hammer...

"Engineering," especially in the colloquial usage of the word, covers a lot areas that have things in common, but there are lots of things those areas don't have in common. Software engineering /= all of engineering anymore than mechanical engineering represents all of engineering.
Steve Jobs Resigns as Apple CEO, Recommends Tim Cook as Successor
Thanks for all you've done, Steve.
Tim Cook has reportedly been given the nod, but I'm still sort of hoping that somewhere Zuck is updating his resume
so if his performance is bad, it's the fault of his team.
but if his performance is good, it justifies the huge bucks they make. i sense a discrepancy.

in my world, with greater reward should come greater responsibility.
Leaving a void for the next generation to fill. I'm looking forward to it.
Believe it or not, things can still happen for the better. This change could continue the trend of success through new ideas. Had this not happened I would have said that the peak if the product lifecycle was upon Apple anyway. Hope this makes sense, typin on train from iPhone.
Fuck all those WSJ assholes with their "SELL SELL SELL" comments.
I'm exactly the intuitive thinker you describe, with only an undergrad degree in math. I have not a clue what a Cech-Stone compactification construction based on ultrafilters is.

But... I think that whatever it is, you decide on some fairly simple properties you want to satisfy, and then go off discovering what they lead to and what the consequences are. Sometimes (mostly all the time?) you get something trivial or that reduces to being isomorphic to something else, but sometimes you get out a lot more than you put in, in surprising ways. I call that a lot more like "discovery" than "invention" though both are strained as analogies.
I always wondered about this word, I never really hear it, is it an Americanism (UK here) or am I sheltered?
Apple will probably be fine for the next decade. The main concern is if Apple can continue to create disruptive products.

From Jobs' own mouth, it was his idea for the iPad a decade ago and from that sprung the iPhone.
No. AD is fucked too, just in a different way. 5 minute logins anyone? And don't restart or you'll have to re-bind to AD.
A sad day. Fortunately, he'll continue to inspire the world of technology and entrepreneurs for decades to come. Thanks Steve!
"I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple" != "Tim Cook is the CEO of Apple"
And the greatest second act in (business) history draws to a close. He's changed the world. And he made Apple the most valuable company in the world. That's quite some achievement for a terminally ill man.
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I totally agree, but how do you find a match between an executive & the team during the interview process?
Agreed, in fact I suspect that the 'chairman' position may also just be something to keep the stock from nose-diving and that it may not last long. I just have a feeling that Jobs wouldn't step back until he really really had to, and that it may be a sign of things being worse than he will let on right now.
Steve Jobs Resigns As Apple CEO - Wants to Be Chairman (Letter)
Oh no!! This means his illness is now quite severe. There can be no replacement to him.

A lot of people say it's hard working for him (my friends at Apple totally dread meeting him by accident), he's egotistical, parks at a handicapped spot, etc. etc. To those people, I give the following, attributed to Judy Garland: ""They say it's hard to work with Judy Garland...do you have any idea how hard it is to BE Judy Garland?"

Indeed!
In the short term, probably yes. But maybe folks have been putting that "discount factor" all along since January. But they have a pretty solid line up ahead (iphone5, sprint-iphone, ipad3, a new product line... and lots of others to come). Plus the iphone/ipad revenues are still growing - so that will only get better in the next few quarters. Very likely, AAPL the stock will move on higher.
Apple’s COO Tim Cook Replaces Steve Jobs As CEO
The SpaceX engineers are certainly not amateurs.
Considering that was their declared succession plan, it'd be hard for him to miss.
Hinting is rather unnecessary. Why else would he leave?
> John Gruber wrote that Steve Cook should succeed him last month. http://daringfireball.net/2011/07/succeeding_steve_jobs

You mean, Tim Cook. Freudian slip, I understand.
Bingo. Mathematics is a consistent model which can be applied to do useful things and make useful predictions, but like any logical system it springs from axioms that must simply be taken as given. Most of these axioms (Modus Ponens[1], for example) are so simple and obvious that it seems bizarre to construct a way of thinking without them, but that does not intrinsically make them "true".

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modus_ponens
Perhaps you mean Tim Cook? Steve Cook is the famous computer scientist who proved that SAT is NP-Complete.
"I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple’s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come."

This makes it sound like it does have to do with his health unfortunately, and not that he just feels that it's the right time to do it. (like Bill Gates did with Microsoft)

On another note, even though in reality it's not just for the Board but, as put in the letter, for "the Apple community", it feels odd to imagine that he would need to write a formal letter of resignation.
I'll be interested to see if 10 years from now Apple has stayed true in hardware quality or if they sink to EMachines-like quality levels.
Probably not in the current political climate.
Yep. Oh well, we could hope...
> their home screen [...] looks entirely too similar to the iPhone

Maybe that's a small nit, but Samsungs's home screen looks nothing at all like the iPhone.
You have to go to the less used "applications list screen" on their phones and compare that to the iPhone's default home screen so that they look similar. It is less used because on android you put you most accessed stuff on the main screen and click the icons/widgets form there.

Here is a pic:
http://www.itworld.com/sites/default/files/iPhone_vs_Galaxy-...

Left is iPhone's main screen, middle is Samsung's application list (I heard it repeated so much even I used to think that was Samsung's home screen), right is Samsung's actual home screen which is very different.
Can Tim Cook Keep Apple Afloat?
I hope Apple will survive this. I don't want to develop for windows.
Wow. If this resignation is health-related, I wish him godspeed and the hope that he will be able to recover to spend time with his family and friends.
I wonder if there was maybe some foresight in him having an official biography approved shortly before he stepped down as CEO.
Everyone already knew it was most likely going to be Tim Cook. He's been pegged the successor for a few years at the very least.
> I realize this puts me quite firmly into the category of people being belittled here!

I hope I'm not participating in a discussion where people are being belittled! I think all the viewpoints here are fascinating.

Yours is certainly interesting and valid, I'm simply offering that the "full stop" at the end of your previous comment doesn't reflect the kind of deeper metaphysical questions that underly the whole progression of the history of math.
You mean for WSJ.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230366190457645...
Aww, I was kind of hoping Steve Jobs would do something insanely huge and visionary (in the way that only he can, it seems) with that massive stockpile of cash Apple has.

Looks like it'll come out in dividends or some such run of the mill fashion.
Meet Tim Cook: Apple’s Possible New CEO
It's not Gruber who predicted this. Every single journalist, analyst, and Apple fan boy predicted the same.
Why would they do that? I doubt Jobs is the only person who understands why Apple has been successful.
IIRC, Apple never declared a succession plan. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/25/us-apple-vote-idUS...
This makes me sad to think that Steve has made this decision on a daily basis - should I carry on at Apple today? And one morning, probably this week, he decided that he couldn't.
This article simply highlights the endless debate between doing something that's highly focused, vs. something that is more feature rich, less focused, but with broader appeal.

Netflix is very focused in utilty, Facebook isn't, but both are large, successful, and growing companies.

There isn't one right answer.
This is about timing. AAPL became the most valuable company in the world recently. The best way to quit is when you're on top.
It's true that the first time Steve Jobs left Apple, it didn't take long for things to go badly for the company, but I feel that this time around (that is, since 1997 when he came back as CEO), Steve Jobs surrounded himself with a great team, making sure that this wouldn't happen again. The fact that Tim Cook is taking over is a good example of that: someone from inside Apple who has been around and key to Apple's success for many years.

I'm sure that all the people at the top are very conscious of his legacy and would most likely often think "what would Steve do?".
Very good advice, although this is more of a reminder for designer-wanna-bees, like myself, as opposed to a guide for software engineers. Chances are, really good software engineers are really terrible designers, and they won't understand what you are talking about or why, no matter how hard you try. But try!
I 'd prefer that he would leave to "build a new pixar" or sth.
'That Day Has Come' - Steve Jobs Resigns as Apple CEO
Hmm..the time to do that would've been earlier today (before trading closed). If you do tomorrow, the pre-trading hours, the floor traders (and options traders and hence probably the institutional clients) would've an advantage of half-an-hour before us retail investors. So the opening price itself will be low enough. From then on, it would just be the crowd/herd movement. As Buffet said, "the stock market is a popularity voting contest in the short term, but a weighing machine in the long term".
I hope Steve would still show up at WWDC :)
Indeed, I should have said it was strongly insinuated in the article.
This announcement only makes more poignant what he said in that speech:

"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything -- all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure -- these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart."
Presumably "Deus Ex" is Square Enix's trademark, no? If GameStop is passing off what's left after they tamper with the box as Deus Ex Whatever, wouldn't that be trademark infringement?
Aside from the many good points being raised here. I'd like to add 2 more:

1, in terms of making money, there is a mis-match within programmer world. You earn respect from other programmers by being great programmer, not by making a lot of money. So you are in a hard-spot if you strive to be a great programmer and rich.

While on the other hand, most dentists, lawyers, bankers's status within their own circles are highly related to their financial success.

2, the world of programming does have barrier of entry, not to the general run-of-the-mill programming jobs, but to programming jobs creating high values. You can come off the street and make a website, which don't make you rich, but you can't just start doing financial programming, or work for Google without some proven track record.
That's what upvoting is for. Let the people decide what is most interesting.
I used to own a Tek 7104 with 1 GHz of bandwidth. Try finding a modern scope with anything close to that for less that $10k.
Agreed. If it does tank, I'll be lining up to buy shares. Throughout all the turbulence of the markets lately, AAPL has been holding up well.