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Zuck is a pretty uninspiring orator, with a tendency to use flat metaphors and bland platitudes. He's also not much of a creative visionary. His version of what "metaverse" will be has Jetsons sort of logic. You get up, have some virtual toast and commute in a virtual car to a virtual office, then go home and feed your virtual pet. ... I'm exaggerating, but you get my meaning. JC, is, in contrast, quite inspiring.

Anyway, Zuck's easy to make fun of. Easy to underestimate too.

Back in the 90s, it was thought to have been proven that an AOL-like attempt to top-down control the WWW was doomed to failure. An open web was too powerful. Well... that was before Zuck.

In many countries, FB-only internet is free and that means FB-only internet is the internet for like a billion people. Meanwhile, lots of unsophisticated users who's first and only device is a smartphone are mostly just FB users. He defied conventional wisdom, made FB a walled garden. Zuck really did "do AOL."

Meanwhile, the IG & WA acquisitions are strategically flawless in retrospect. With his tactical skills in the early days, Zuck's managed to keep more shares and control over FB than other CEOs. He may not have style and he's not quite hip, but Zuck is effective in his strategies.

I'd like to believe Carmack is right and Zucks' lame, top-down VR metaverse is doomed... pun intended. But I also recall that Zuck bought John out, and he's the boss. That may not be coincidence.
I shall gather all these projects on a wiki.
Methane balloons would probably be a pretty significant fire / explosion risk, no?
A lot of young companies are hindered by the pain and overhead of developing and supporting multiple native apps (including patching, tracking & resolving separate bugs etc), spending their precious resources on solved problems rather than user-centric things like better understanding the users by rapidly improving the app and getting feedback etc.

Picture a maybe-for-legal-reasons-theoretical app that needs to be supported on android and iOS plus would massively benefit from the ability to preview the mobile app in a supporting Web portal.

PWA gives us :

- A unified codebase across 2 apps and a Web portal (same project produces the ios, Android and web builds, reuse of css styles, UI components etc)

- Significant reduction in effort developing and maintaining 3ish separate codebases for the same functionality (not quite 3x reduction, there are platform specific issues you have to resolve but still really great).

- Way easier time resourcing the project, one skillet for the 3 frontends and the team can swarm to the required work (This was amazing in the current high demand market)

- Access to the huge array of existing libraries and UI components

For larger more established companies then sure go native. But for companies that have to efficiently use capital, any money spent basically building the same thing twice is money not invested in further understanding the user's needs and improving their experience.
> We have computers which are ridiculous fast, but tend to write code which is freaking slow. It's sad that most programs could be 100x faster.

I feel this sort of comment misses the whole point of going with code which is patently slower than alternatives.

The main reason is that performance is a constraint but not a goal, and once it is good enough then there is absolutely nothing to be gained by wasting time on seeking performance gains.

Meanwhile, the main resource in software development is man*hours. The faster you write software (add features, fix bugs, etc) the cheaper it is. Thus, software projects benefit the most by adopting and using technology which favour turnaround time, which means higher-level languages, generic full-featured frameworks, and code reuse. They are slow and bloated and not optimized, and they are used without optimization in mind. But they work and they work acceptably.

Your client and project manager does not care if you go with a O(n2) implementation that you can whip out right now by reusing a package and has acceptable performance even if there is a O(n) alternative that requires you a few weeks to implement and forces you to test, debug, and maintain a lower level implementation.

Performance is meaningless once it's good enough. It matters nothing if your browser wastes 1GB of RAM even though it could just use 100MB because practically everyone already has 8GB to begin with, and if would be foolish to waste resources prioritizing that if no one is willing to pay for that improvement. It matters nothing if your server has a relatively low throughput because it is wasting 10s of milliseconds doing nothing in each response if all your servers barely break 50% utilization. It matters nothing if your frontend is wasting 10s of milliseconds rendering a page if end users don't even notice any delay. If performance is good enough, work is focused on where it matters.

We know it's possible to get formula1-level performance by using formula1-level of engineering and maintenance, but the world runs on Volkswagen hatchbacks.
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profit and depreciation are different, orthogonal things. A banana can be profitable because people who buy that banana can buy it at a higher-than-production-cost price, because their jobs produce more value per hour than growing banana (and agriculture has become so efficient). The fact that bananas spoils after a while doesn't make a difference here.
> It never ceases to amaze me how anyone can reason through decompiled code.

How so? I'm very much so a nascent programmer, but I've learned the most by decompiling other's code and seeing what works and what doesn't. When I see good apps, I guess I make the (sometimes specious) assumption that whoever wrote it likely also knows how to write pretty well.

I've also done a ton of troubleshooting at a past support position via decompiler since the Dev Team was sometimes...sparse with details :)

It's one of the things I do like about programming, it's just a big logic puzzle to break down. Sometimes the logic harder to follow, but there is a way to understand it. My biggest mental growths have been just seeing how other people accomplish goals I want to accomplish, and understanding what does and doesn't work well. Especially with major developers, it's really interesting to see how/why they do the things they do as their needs are way different than in-house app needs.
I'm totally with you on this. I think the sharing economy for housing is catastrophic. And I'm someone who rented most of my life - sometimes finding places on AirBnB and going long term on them - then bought a house, and I hope in a few years I will rent this house out (long term) and buy another. But I've watched areas around me turn into transient AirBnB wastelands, including the house next door. While other people can't afford rent, and the rents have gone up 30% in the last five years. Short term rentals are a blight. I don't blame people for taking the money - the family who owns the house next door put their house up on AirBnB, pays a company 10% to do housekeeping and fucks off to Thailand .. they come back once a year for a few days. I can't say they're wrong. But it's even worse if it's a faceless corporation buying up all the housing stock. Then we're all just living in a hotel.

I do think this should be addressed, either with tax policy or city ordinances against the practice, but I think the first step is to differentiate between short and long-term rentals. Long term renters have rights, for one thing. And they add to the neighborhood, they don't hollow it out. Every AirBnB is basically a dead property that takes away from the community and gives nothing back.
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> Even in the most "ideal" EU countries, casual racism is an afterthought

Could you clarify what you mean and what countries?
The Chinese government could dispell any doubt as to whether it came from the Wuhan lab by allowing unlimited access to an independent forensic team. Any other country would allow this, or at the very least pretend to do it. It's only fair therefore to assume they have something to hide there. The only exculpatory hypothesis is that their political system is so authoritarian that they can't even allow the appearance of an independent commission, even if they have nothing to hide wrt this virus. And it's damning in itself.
Does private browsing in FF solve this by not caching between program starts?
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Collisions will come up. If you have some allocator for NaN, it will have to start reusing values. The allocator could be inefficient. How do you handle threads? Does each thread have its own NaN-allocating counter? What if threads communicate numeric results to each other and have NaN-counters close in value?

The underlying problem is that a system of calculation which propagates error symbols up the expression tree to indicate error is mixed with a system of Boolean calculation which has no such symbol. The bad calculation bubbles up a NaN up to the level of the comparison. There, the not-a-number gets eaten and becomes a Boolean true or false --- rather than becoming not-a-truth and continuing to bubble up.

There is no satisfactory way to plug NaNs into an expression that produces a clean two-valued Boolean truth with no error indication. You must separately test for the NaN.
Two weeks in iceland with sunset at 18:00, but saw basically nothing. Landed back home less than 24 hours ago. Here we are :(. You win this round, universe. One day, I will catch you...
That’s different. “Apple” is a very common everyday word, plus it’s arbitrary as a tech company name so the two are never confused in any reasonable context. “Meta” is a niche but useful word used in intellectual discussions, and Meta’s usage of it is relevant to its meaning. This means “meta” is far more under threat from Meta than “apple” was from Apple, because whenever someone describes something as “meta” in an ambiguous context (where they might be referring to the company or the concept), there will be a need for a little flow-interrupting clarification, and then people will just learn to use the word less (and thus the concept), because inconvenience is inconvenient.

It’s easy to dismiss concerns like this with “well another word will just appear in its place” but linguistic history will disagree with you. Sometimes we just lose things, and it’s sad.
Yeah, I don’t think they’ve done much research on historical pricing vs. income.
It's not my ideal situation, but pandemic relocation etc means I'm not next to my normal lab (two ESX servers + NAS).

So, that said, yes, server (whitebox) plus desktop (xeon, 32gb) - both running Debian, with Consul, Nomad, Traefik, promtail etc running on both, but no shared NFS between the two, so I've got constraints on most of the important stuff to run on the server (prometheus, cortex, loki, nodered). In practice, desktop is running 24/7, just it occasionally gets a reboot.

Having consul/nomad running as server-client on two machines is undeniably weird, and requires some careful consideration around bootstrap_expect= settings.

Almost all of this is around having a useful facsimile of my work environment, rather than (say) running an SSG public site.
lol I hope that gets you through your day
How many of those amazon/Google employees are working on their respective roku alternatives? Your numbers don't really mean anything. For instance, Google could just as well only allocate 10 people to the chrome cast project, turning your statement around.
I don't think I'm misreading 129,600, times ten, is 1,296,000. Did I misunderstand which number they were asserting was 10x? I re-read the post, still looks like they're implying a 1.2 million euro price average for housing even outside of cities.
Oanda uses Western Union in its back end. They gave up their license for money transfer a while back due to regulatory issues.

Stellar blockchain is trying to do something innovative in this space but is slow to get volumes.
Something sorely missing from the conversation is the infrastructure piece of all of this. It's much sexier to talk about VR experiences or whatever digital activity resonates with you, but none of this works without the infrastructure to connect, share, and engage across individual experiences.

I was (and reluctantly remain) so excited for cryptocurrency and blockchain networks because of this aspect. Broad open networks interoperable at a data level seemed like exactly what is needed to create more dynamic interconnected digital systems. To some extent this is what is happening in the background.

But the obsession with individual experiences, in crypto it is thr scam coins or ridiculous yield products, dominates the conversation. I think this has greatly derailed the other conversations.

Now I worry that we're left with the only other reasonable answer. Facebook builds this infrastructure as their platform and the market ignores all the problems and flocks to it.

Doesn't seem like there are many entities in between these two places that are working on a more robust, and healthy, "metaverse".
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He is my hero. Lenin critiqued his approach to Marxism as "infantile leftism" but I still think council communism is the best form of socialism, it allows workers to express themselves politically and contribute to decision making.
Ah - wow, dang. I believed the cover-story that Tor was a side-project of a humanitarian org in the US gov that wanted to provide people in firewalled countries a way to access the wider internet - of course, Tor does do that (just as a nice side-effect, and to be fair, the US does benefit and encourage democratic (...and neoliberal) ideals worldwide as its in their own interests to).

...it's kinda like how we were all told that the 1950s-1970s space-launches with monkeys and other animals in them were for bio-scientific experiments when they were really just cover stories for launching spy-sats and military satellites.
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> I personally think they should've acquired TikTok last year when TikTok was looking to be acquired by Microsoft. They probably would've extended their survival for another 10-ish years (lifecycle of a social media)

Eh, IMO I don't think that would have worked - I suspect it would have raised too much anti-trust attention and not have been allowed.

The bigger picture is that in the UK at least, 'Meta' owns most communication channels that I use to communicate with my friends. TikTok isn't really a replacement to insta/whatsapp/Facebook, it's a replacement to Youtube.

I think Facebook is using the 'metaverse' as a metaphor to mean 'Facebook owning all forms of communication, as much as possible, both traditional messanger/audio but also extending into the real world as much as possible, and new media'. In that case, I think the metaverse is a much broader play (that nobody else can easily make, and that probably raises even more concerns!).
> more loans to people who might not afford to pay for them.

so should those people be given the loans then? The choices are to deny the loan, and prevent those on lower income from buying, or to give them loans (that they'd potentially default on in a crisis), and bear the cost of defaults.
> ...so I assume I'm missing something, but what?

Facebook started, as any other web app, with a relational database used as a relational database (fks, indexes, all that stuff). They built tooling around that and acquired a great deal of knowledge on how to run mysql at scale. Switching to a different system is a huge investment with no real benefits. In short, they are using mysql because inertia, caused by the difficulty to run such a system at this scale.
https://m.twitch.tv/directory/game/Heroes%20of%20Might%20and... and then it will depend on your language preference
What governmental policies make housing an investment? Are there countries with policies that effectively make it a depreciating asset? What do those policies look like?
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Let's just call it the digital ecosystem and leave it at that.
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It’s so unimportant mr Fauci was prepared to lie that he had nothing to do with it.
Sometimes I'm baffled how basic functionality is considered innovation in other places.
Where I live most banks allow turning online payments on and off, and you can issue a virtual card for your account and then set any limits on it. Stripe is barely used because business use their bank's acquiring and some of them allow logging in and saving payment details. Some banks have automatisation, but AFAIK it's not popular. For example, suggestions and quick buttons to do repeated patterns (like transfer X amount from my paycheck to savings account). There's even "round my purchases up and use extra to buy ETF" feature.
All these things are made inside the banks and don't require fancy technology. I think western engineers in finance are busy trading stocks rather than coding some basic user interactions.
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yes it's marketing wank, but how is marketing wank made - probably by a bunch of idiots (of which I am sometimes one) - sitting around a table brainstorming what they can do to sell this tech to others. And then someone says an idea and everyone says hey that's great even though it is sort of crap, and that becomes the marketing wank they're releasing.
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The Spotify PWA is a pile of hot garbage, so no thank you.
Thank you :-)

It seems subranges could be something of a double-edged sword. Too many enumerations and subranges in a program adds complexity. However, without them I presume the guards need to be coded manually elsewhere in the program.

It's really fascinating to see the reasoning a programming language designer makes when choosing what feature to include - or exclude.
There's literally zero credible evidence for this is why 'so few people understand' it.
LDAP could have been that service - a distributed directory. I'm not sure why it didn't become universal.

OpenLDAP's a bugger to configure, and it's much more than you need for a simple directory. But ActiveDirectory is nearly omnipresent.
Can we have one the same width as an emperor but shorter, and call it the Napoleon?

(yes, I know it's a myth; I am doing my bit to preserve it)
Many of the brutalist buildings, perhaps not those in the USSR, are designed with humans very much in mind. Many of the issues that have been with life in brutalist builds are down to them being frequently used for social housing. Placing a large number of relative poor people, drug users, people with mental health problem and a myriad of other issues in the same place will cause trouble regardless of the building type.

That’s not to say that all brutalist builds are great, far from it, but they are blamed for a number of problems cause by the types of people they’re frequently used to house, not the buildings.
I really am not sure why you got downvoted. It feels like people feel strongly they should write crap web apps and force it on users.
Yeah, RL venues and stores will always draw people to the cities. This should be actually a cheap, cool thing for young people like it was in New York or San Francisco in the 60s, or the 80s. It probably will be like that about 20 years from now, when it becomes "cool" to live in a city again. We were so close to an urban renaissance... the period from 2000 until covid was the best time for urban centers and downtowns since the late 19th century, before trolley lines and buses and cars moved everyone out. I thought we were centralizing and going to a walkable, car-less future. Covid did change all that, because without office workers there's no lunch crowd; with no lunch crowd there are no restaurants; with no restaurants there are no hipsters wanting to live downtown (they alone can't sustain the restaurants). Then you have the riots and the meth population and everything boarded up. We're in for 20 years before downtowns recover as a "hip" zone.

The thing is, RL venues are important, but they do exist outside of San Francisco. Increasingly, very little exists in the urban cores, and yet the prices for rent are still insane.
I'm on the side of "this is a new interesting platform and worth exploring"

I am determined to try and set up a coding environment in one. I get the feeling it will transform the "laptop experience".

But hours drooling in the corner. No. My son spends waaay too much time online gaming, it does so alsost exclusively with a roster of friends - chatting laughing organising new lands or strategies.

It's not my grandfathers way to socialise. But it is socialising. And we parents occasionally use the internet to co-ordinate chucking them into the outdoors to basically talk about the game they would be playing if their parents weren't so awful :-)

I am beginning to think of parenting in the web age as managing in the remote working era. You cannot rely on just being in same room / house as kids as some metric - we need to decide what are the activities we want to see, what are the outcomes (hours spent laughing, maths problems solved, time spent bullshitting with friends)
Also, England vs. the UK, Holland vs. the Netherlands and the US vs. America
Extremely good points. VR has the potential to revolutionize education, and by extension workplace training. With the addition of AR, that education/training can have a persistent presence on the job.

I wonder when society will realize all this technology has no value without the support of the single most valuable resource on this planet: humans and their educations. The number one asset of any/every company and every nation is their people - yet we treat people as completely disposable. Our civilization is literally insane today, and will remain so until this clear value is recognized.
OP:

> C++, Java, Rust are far from minimal. Go feels minimal but it too has a lot of features compared to C and it has a garbage collector too.

You:

> Seems like Go might be able to fit your bill.
> I would consider Rust instead.

That's exactly what OP did not want...