> Is there any other way to read into the government's authority at large? The entire premise of government is that is assumes power over others. Monopoly on violence.

Ya, monopoly on violence by... who exactly? Who is wielding the power in the government? Afghanistan was horrible, right? But US just kinda let that go on for 20 years or whatever. News didn't really talk about it. That's kind of like... a lot of suffering while just pretending nothing is happening. I guess if it was you wielding the power in any real way, or i mean if the people who represented you cared about what you thought, they might have checked in to update you and see what you thought. But they didn't, so... wonder what happened there. And since we are talking about violence, i guess we all agree constructing dragnet surveillance with no regard for human and civil rights is violent, right?

Also, monopoly on violence, you mean over other states right? So then the other states... don't have a monopoly, or? Isn't that just imperialism? I've never heard that phrase used this way, i usually hear it used as monopoly on violence over the people (which the US absolutely is but will never admit because then they wouldn't be able to call every non-US gov in the world 'authoritiarian'). I guess you might be saying monopoly over so-called 'enemy states', but like i said it US is touted as such a world-renowned and representative democracy, and most people don't even understand anything about 'enemy states'. Really, they are mostly just blindly nationalistic or bask in the high standard of living afforded them with a warm and convenient lack of awareness about what is going on in the world (retirement funds did well due to that war, that's nice). Or maybe they went into some detail but it was inside a carefully crafted investigation bubble, usually under threat of losing their job or burned as a witch for having the wrong thoughts about an evil enemy if they could influence someone. Anyway, in such a situation, i hope we can agree that the state should not just blindly exercise violence for a 'monopoly'. Who said so? How was the decision acted upon? To what end? How much violence? Which kinds are ok, which are off-limits? What effect is it gonna have on the people?

Ok, so wait we get to comment on this particular export situation. Great. Despite the fact that i've heard people say even well-reasoned and popular adversarial comments in these little situations do next to nothing, we are not addressing the overall problem. People need to know the big picture of how this will be used. Did we ever even agree to surveillance in the first place, do we agree with who we've been told our enemies are? Do we agree with violating peoples' rights? Whose? Why? You know... very basic questions that will never be asked. Request for comment, ya, ok. Thanks. Also, if there's a request for comment on something, all people need to be made aware of the request through some very well-publicized channel. Is there one? I don't think so. No one bothers building such a channel because building one would make their entire political and military racket less profitable not to mention eat away at the neighbordhood of makebelieve.

> If said power becomes distributed to other parties, it becomes moot. How that power is wielded, and with what intent are separate discussions, but the power itself is core to the idea of government.

You have like some premise that all power constructed by the US is legitimate? I don't understand. We never agreed to wire up the whole world like this and it is pretty clear at this point that no one else did either. Ok. Now it's constructed, what to do? The proper answer is, i guess, to destroy the technology and not move forward, right? Since it's construction and deployment was done in secret? If they didn't want to waste resources they should maybe not build illegal things that take lots of resources using stolen public funds?

> I feel like the idea that "The US government wants to have certain powers, and wants no one else to have them" is just baked into the fact that it is the US government, and should neither surprise nor alarm anyone who isn't an Anarchist.

I guess it just smells like fascism to me when you submit to this without like... actually thinking about the specifics of each power? Or letting them just spread illegal shit around the world? Maybe i misunderstand. This all seems weird.