skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yup it definitely does - but those people will more regularly rub shoulders with people engaged in actual patient care. Even the administrative positions should probably be treated seriously - and trying to break out exceptions (i.e. allowing unvaccinated people who are fully remote) can be difficult from an HR perspective and can expose you to unnecessary liability from both the patient side and from the HR side (by allowing more room for wrongful firing suits).
Both Apple and MS are despicable.
Netflix themselves classify it as a content delivery network, and that seems pretty fair - how else would you classify a network they have built to optimise content delivery, by way of peering agreements and physical kit they deliver to ISPs on demand?

They do use AWS for a lot of their internal compute and packaging, but it wouldn't be cost-effective to use AWS for content delivery, even with a deep discount to the highway robbery standard AWS egress prices.
At this point bodycams might be more appropriate.
Somewhere in at least single digits isn't atypical for annual turnover. Yes, a lot of organizations will lose people who will probably have trouble finding equivalent jobs. But the organizations will manage.
They deployed this morning that doesn’t imply they implemented anything. I can’t think of a better time that way you have the whole week work on anything that uncovers. Or in the case of something this big they have the rest of the day to freak out.
I suspect the original poster was not complaining about these topics showing up on their timeline; they don't want them showing up on anyone's timeline.
This seems to be ticking down, but Facebook is back up at this point? Are you using a specific metric that's still failing, or are you just subtracting time from the downtime start without accounting for whether it's up?
A bit glib but : https://xkcd.com/1227/

I don't doubt we all look at younger people and worry about the future. I'm going to assume it's part of getting older.
It was probably due to the global DNS system being overloaded due to people and apps repeatedly retrying facebook connections. Cloudflare reported 30x normal DNS requests for FB properties.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/october-2021-facebook-outage/
I do like a healthy slice of sarcasm.
> you could opt out of the phone book.

Which cost money! Being listed was gratis.
How did it oppress you? Can you point to the place on the doll where it hurt you?
It's the businesses choice to make healthcare a job benefit.

I know we've gotten to where the practice it's common, but that doesn't make it any less of a business decision.

So what happens when companies start screening new hires for expensive health issues?
My understanding is that the Facebook network itself was unreachable from the internet because of BGP. So even if an IP was resolved from DNS, that IP wouldn’t get routed to Facebook because it withdrew its routes from its peers where it connects to ISPs via BGP
And how simple it actually was, just turn off the sites. Like a giant global, societal parental control setting.

Here I thought that this snake had wrapped itself entirely around all of us, but it really didn’t. All we have to do is ‘flick’, turn it off. Body image issues on Insta? Not today kids.

How simple some of our biggest problems are to solve. It does make one hopeful.
They employ over 75,000 people, so 1,400 is not the shocking total it might seem. They also are not necessarily all in patient care roles.
Screen reader support[0] may have a noticeable performance cost.

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I asked a Googler about this years ago when Material Design was new. They told me that the general population has a harder time processing dense information views compared with computer geeks. Many folks find devices easier to use when there's less "going on" on-screen at once. If you bump up padding and margins, you not only reduce total visible information, but also spread out your UI elements, making it easier to visually identify which part of the screen holds the information you're looking for.
Sure you do, if they're relatively low-skilled and straightforwardly replaceable, and they're endangering the rest of the staff by refusing to comply with health and safety requirements.

This is 1.8% of their workforce. Their normal annual turnover is 8%.
I think the question is, how do you keep the good and get rid of the bad? I think there's a lot of great things that social media has done to connect people, but all too often it's only a shallow or artificial connection. I think the other problem is that social media will make you find people "like" you. Humans have always sought that out, but there was always some variance that allowed us to remember that others unlike us were still human. Now, with connections possible the world over, we ironically are more likely to only interact with individuals that share our opinions because it's a lot easier to find people like that when you can search the entire world for it. That leads to otherization of any who doesn't share that opinion. So, how do we create social media that keeps that potential for connection you are talking about, but does it in a meaningful way where individuals are exposed to more than an echo chamber?
facebook drove your other options to suicide
Wonder why they're still using AWS given that FB operates its own data centers...
Television is a new medium where opinions are neither rare nor well done. (~~Anonymous from the 1930s, with many varieties)

It helps to remember that most new mediums follow the same trend: when its easier to share opinions, everyone is flabbergasted at the huge volume of "low quality" opinions.
The healthcare system in this country is multifaceted, and has multiple points of failure. We've seen most (if not all) of them at various points: a lack of PPE, insufficient respirators and ICU beds, a lack of staffing, &c. Each of those is a sufficient condition for describing the system as "on the brink of collapse."

As others have pointed out, those 1400 workers were also not necessarily essential medical personnel. All other things being equal, Joe in Billing is more likely to be resistant to getting his shot than Susie in Immunology.
a normalization of a papers please policy in everyday life will have lasting consequences for which demands companies make on their workers will be perceived as normal and how politics and unions will handle this.

My current feeling is that sooner or later this will collapse and burn in whatever form. this rapid downward spiral this country has been in for the last few years is not sustainable for much longer..
In the US, get an associates degree (which you can speed up by CLEP tests) and you can also knock out a lot of other mandatory but non-major courses for a lot of state colleges, at least. I've had a few friends who did this, getting math or physics associates. Then they were able to primarily take CS courses for their CS degrees with maybe a few other mandatory electives that weren't previously covered (language requirements they couldn't test out of as typical monolingual Americans like me, mostly). This can shorten the time needed for the CS program to a comfortable 3 years, and if you can convince the department to let you skip some of the intro courses (based on professional experience) you might drop it further. Total, then, would be about 1-2 years for the associates (depending on how much you can test out of) and 2-3 years for the bachelors.

Also talk to professors about independent study courses, you may be able to knock out extra course requirements in summer terms where they don't normally offer courses, keeping the calendar (but not semester) time lower.
> different choices when presented with the same alternatives

I've never been comfortable with the assumption from the social sciences that people don't change their preferences when confronted with seemingly unrelated extra options, the principle known as Independence of Irrelevant Alternatives[0].

Now it seems that there is an even weaker assumption, which perhaps should be called Independence of Relevant Alternatives, which is also not a reasonable axiom to hold. The assumption could be expressed as "A person's preference for X over Y guarantees their preference for X' over Y', whenever X' is an equivalent option to X and Y' is an equivalent option to Y."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_irrelevant_alt...
There has been tons of use for it for hate, but people have found a way to use every method of communication for hate (e.g. TV, Mail, phones) and efforts to crack down on hate on Facebook haven’t seemed to have an effect on hate in the real world (see the people banned from Facebook who went on to use other platforms to coordinate 1/6). I don’t like their privacy intrusions but people seem to have a tendency to blame all of society’s ills on Facebook, phones, and the internet and that in and of itself is a massive oversimplification that doesn’t reflect the real issues with our society
to own all the eggs
Thanks for saying that. Sometimes HN makes me feel like I'm a lot dumber than I realize, but I'm so dumb that it's obvious to everyone else here lol
> And Apple's subscriptions expire immediately if you cancel during a free trial, whereas the Google ones will still let you finish the term of your trial.

Amusingly, this is only the case for Apple's first-party subscriptions. Third-party IAP subscriptions for which you are in the free trial when you cancel will continue to provide "access" until the trial period concludes.
Not really.

If you signed something and cannot make it look reasonably like what I understand your signature to look like, I have a really big red flag telling me you aren't who you say you are. Then I then have the option of denying you, or investigating why you can't match your own signature, and looking at other available proof of your ID.

People's signatures may change a little over time, but there are clear muscle-memory related aspects that don't disappear. It's the most basic aspect of handwriting their is - your own name. Usually it's the first thing you even learn how to write. If you can't do that, then you definitely need to carry plenty of other forms of ID that don't need your signature. And even your driver's license has that. Outside of physical or mental damage, there is very little excuse in the world for not being able to duplicate your own signature satisfactorily.
While they aren't perfect, the vaccines do drop transmission rates. Why would they want more contagious people handling the elderly and immune compromised, or, even if they just relegated the unvaccinated to handling the young and healthy, spreading it more through the hospital system ultimately reaching elderly and immune compromised patients?
If you account for the screen size only, even now we have more resolution the scale of elements on screen is bigger than what screen size allows for comfortable reading.

To me these UIs improvements look like "dumbing down" of UI instead. Everything UX now suggests you the action it thinks you want to perform and hide all other options. Take context menu, start menu or taskbar in Windows 11 or in Android see the drop down from top bar which use to have more options visible at the same time in previous versions.

This will surely work for anyone who is using these systems at very basic level (new users, people with accessibility needs?). For everyone else who spend their lives in these for work or hobby this dumbing is frustrating.
I’d like to know how one “discovers” a non-existent animal.
Facebook.com is up now, looks like the issue now is the billions of request that is DDoS on the DNS servers
>Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people.

This is the most underrated aspect. With the caveat that you can't choose your family and schoolfriends, you get the facebook you deserve. And you know, maybe you should try a bit harder to understand your family and schoolfriends?
With routing it's even worse than that. If they had no out-of-band method to connect to these routers and they botched the routing config then they had no way to route any traffic to them at all. At least with DNS you can still connect to the IPs.

I would find it a bit surprising if Facebook didn't have OOB access to their data centers, however.
Where is the discussion about the fact that a very large fraction of these employees likely already had far superior natural immunity - which is provable. So they were fired for refusing to undergo what amounts to an unnecessary medical procedure. And these vaccines are non-sterilizing - so it's not like other vaccinations that are routinely required in other public health contexts.
What did the dongles do?
That has pretty much always been the case though right? In 1995 people who chose to smoke were prevented from being indoors in NYC for their entire dining experience if they wanted to have a cigarette. It is perfectly reasonable that there be some differences in treatment based on your choices.
Theres no need to use a cache.

Even if authoritative DNS servers are unreachable, there are, for example, multiple, authorised, public scans of port 53 available for free download. There are also passive DNS datasets also available for free. While recursive caches may be convenient, IMO they are the least trustworthy sources of DNS data.
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Do we have any hope of ever treating all of humanity as our in group? Ideally we should treat people who are infected with dangerous ideas not as enemies, but as we would treat sick members of our tribe.
So, terrorize people?
Err... even in that context, it's blatantly false.

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Grab a marshmallow brother, it's all up in flames.
A website to be in touch with your friends by keeping a list of them and sharing pictures, texts and events, which is famous for its developers discovering that the worse it does its core functions, the more money it brings, where people are forced to spend more time to do simple things because UI is intentionally bad and AI mixes in the content it founds the most distracting into your feed together with ads.
>if they're relatively low-skilled and straightforwardly replaceable

narrator: "they aren't".
>Is this really the behavior of a hospital system on the brink of collapse due to an ongoing pandemic?

I hope so. When better to fire workers who won't comply with safety protocols than in an "ongoing pandemic"?
so 29 countries are "shitty" according to you?
This is good info. Another thing to be mindful of is property easements - they're different everywhere and they can change over time.
Hey, if I can take the kids and there’s food for a decade and a bunker I’m probably in ;)
(I'm trying to better understand this)

I think it's not so simple because authoritative DNS systems are involved.

So it's not just a BGP error. It's a BGP error which disconnected authoritative DNS for all facebook. I'm not quite sure why that makes it so slow to fix. is it just because internal difficulties due to having no DNS at all?
Hacker News speed sure bounced back fast!
opportunity!

tomorrow: FB up 5%!
Nah, unauthenticated HN was working very fast. It was simply the amount of traffic HN got while FB was down.

Here's a crazy idea: maybe a lot of HN people also spend time on FB during the day. When FB was down, they had more time to spend on HN!
It's just my experience, but I am not very special or unusual, so it would be surprising if many people haven't had similar experiences
I'm from the U.S. and your experience matches mine. I just have like 1 niece, 1 cousin and a friend or two that I had to unfollow. I'm still friends with them, I just don't see any of the political stuff they post.

I know some people have like 500+ friends or even the max of 5,000. I keep my friend list to the 250 people I know in real life that I want to keep in touch with. Probably still melting my brain but I'm convinced it's nice to keep up with people's lives.
Theoretically, this could also be achived by allowing FKs to Views. But I know of no system that allows this.
What is this logic?

NYS implemented a mandate for all healthcare organizations to follow.

Deadline was end of September and all organizations followed through on it.
Whistleblower reports, Facebook intentionally showing content to anger people
People reacting to what wasn't said
Over here[0] was some tin-hat speculation that FB might use the outage as a distraction while they wiped data from their systems to cover evidence of their many, many infelicities. Immediately readers assumed that it's being suggested that the outage was being created to do this.

That was never suggested. It was not suggested that the outage was instigated for the purpose of creating the cover, merely that it could be, might be, used as a cover.

I'd hoped people would have a rational discussion about the question and the issues, the possibilities and the probabilities, but the submission has been flagged. Fair enough. What drives me to distraction is people not reading what's actually said, and instead reacting to something that wasn't said. I honestly expected better of the HN community.

I guess I was wrong.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28752413
It can't show up on their timeline, mainly because they "Never had a Facebook" or "deleted their Facebook a day/month/year ago and it instantly made them better/happier/sexier"
German carrier O2 was/is notorious for offering somewhat decent-ish service in urban areas under normal conditions - but major events that happen to have lots of people moving around the city like fans congregating to a soccer game with public transport, political rallies or your average drunkard festival (=Oktoberfest)? Instant collapse...
Facebook may bring “a lot of good to the world”, but it brings a lot of bad, too. Is it worth the tradeoff?
Yes, from New Zealand it is now normal speed.
How have they turned? They've been cheer leading for gender fascism, from the front page, for at least a year or so.
Especially when a lot of them have caught COVID and have anti-bodies against it.

The number of lies (and censorship) being used to sell this mandate is pretty shocking. This won't end well for Democrats in 2022.
At close, market cap was approximately 920B and the stock was down about 5%. The change in market cap is therefore about 920B * (1 / 0.95 - 1) ~ 48B
> Apple is the #1 most restrictive company in the world

You really will not gain much credibility here on HN by throwing in some random, made-up ranking results. And I can guarantee that 99.99% didn't even read past that sentence /s
If you keep up with current affairs the past few weeks have shown that FB’s alleged problems are supported by data which is disregarded by it’s leadership
> their public DNS resolvers were getting 30x their usual traffic

But why does my browser need to do a DNS lookup every time I request a page from HN? It's not like the IP address changes every 5 minutes.
I mute people's posts and stories when their content is primarily rants, resharing some kind of social justice issue, resharing meme accounts, their children. So yeah I probably would not entertain a depressing couple’s spiral for more than a few 15 second clips. They know that too.

I’m only interested in the outgoing and interesting things, inspiration about locations or events, things that could include me. When these things really seem like they will never happen I typically remove them as followers and unfollow them. (Its much easier to curate your social graph as you go, instead of waking up one day and finding it too hard to fix your feed by attempting to unfollow lots of people)

I like to know people personally and I do that in person or over direct message

I only use the story for entertainment personally

Like someone else mentioned, I don't find many people’s online persona that interesting, and I have abruptly deactivated and/or deleted my own profiles before. Periodic curating has been good for me.
Also, the worst of the Delta variant is over, and New York was never as much of an area under strain as red states were post-vaccination
> they're endangering the rest of the staff by refusing to comply with health and safety requirements

They're not though, the vaccines reduce spread very marginally if at all. To say nothing of the huge proportion of these nurses who have natural immunity.
A non-trivial percentage of HN visitors also read FB. Absent FB, they likely spent more time on HN.
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> If this is not the case, ephemeral port exhaustion would kick in, at which point the DNS server will not be able to server other requests.

You can use the same local ip/port to contact multiple server ip/ports, so filling up connections to FB ips shouldn't prevent you from connecting to others (but there are plenty of ways to do that wrong, I guess)

>> On the authoritative side, it's not too hard to manage this load

> Of course not, all you need to do is just present any response which will be cached by downstream resolvers.

You need to present a response before the resolver times out. One can certainly imagine a situation where the incoming packet processing results in enough delay that the responses arrive too late and are discarded. In the right conditions, this queuing delay would never clear and things just get worse. If it doesn't happen, great, but if it does, dropping most of the requests so you can timely handle the few you accept is a good way to get moving.
I think you are underestimating what it could do when they have a complete cloud offering.

And since there are no egress fees, there is no barrier to use a competing product that does something better.

It's like they are launching without vendor lock-in. So I do think it's disruptive, not based on costs alone.
No, it's class. Race is what the privileged use to distract attention from that.
Ask HN: How many lives have been negatively affected by WhatsApp going down?
Many countries outside the US rely on WhatsApp for communication. I imagine even a few hours of non-communication wouldn’t be good for the economy or emergency services.
If the health issues were communicable to the other employees in the office, I would personally probably support those screenings. Besides being expensive for the company that pays me, it's entirely reasonable to expect my coworkers have done the absolute bare minimum to also protect me from an awful disease.
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Many healthcare organizations require flu shots these days.