skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Living in California, I find the weather a lot more complicated than when I was living in a much flatter and consistent area of the country. Just within my city the variance is so large that any forecast that just says "Los Angeles" is just an average that doesn't exist in reality at all. In Marina del Rey it could be 60, cold, grey, windy, even raining, then you go seven miles northeast to hollywood and its sunny, 85, hot, without a cloud in the sky, no cool ocean breeze, then you go through the cahuenga pass and in a 10 minutes drive the temperature goes up another 10 degrees by the time you are in north hollywood. Then if the winds decide to shift and you get some Santa Anas blowing in, everything can turn on its head fast and its hot in marina del rey even at night.

Even with a storm moving directly above it could do remarkably different things whether you live in a flatter side of town or one on a hillside, which usually sees precipitation and even hail or sleet along with colder temps while it might remain bone dry in the flatter parts.

Accurate weather estimations for some places needs a very robust understanding of local topology, seasonal winds, and data, lots of data, from sensors that aren't there in enough quantities and in enough places to capture what is actually happening over varied terrain and changing conditions. I found localized apps like darksky very accurate in the midwest where weather is uncomplicated to model beyond occasional things like lake effect snow (which seemed to be well understood), but not very useful in Los Angeles where you practically need your own hardware to actually quantify what the weather is where you are at in your particular canyon today.
I at least like what Instagram commented! https://twitter.com/instagram/status/1445084977096314880
I have literally never once received an email to confirm a domain change. Perhaps the only exception is on a transfer to another registrar (though I can't recall that occurring, either).

To be fair, we did have to get an email from eurid recently for a transfer auth code, but that was only because our registrar was not willing to provide.

In any case, no, they will not need to send an email to fix this issue.
They are on IOS as of 14:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211227
The same happened in Romania with two of our mobile operators immediately after FB&all went down.
That someone will win the lottery is also incredibly likely. That a given person will win the lottery is, on the other hand, vanishingly unlikely. That a given config change will go wrong in a given way is ... eh, you see where I'm going with this
> It also seems like they're trying to make some kind of point about dead simple web design and running a web server off of old laptops or something.

Yes, and it's a point worth making.
Welcome to the redditfication of hacker news. Next people will only read the titles.
It's still a DDoS, just not an attack. Slashdotting a site is a DDoS, but usually not intended as a deliberate attack. Now take every WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and Facebook Messenger user, every app that uses FB for user authentication, every site that does the same, every app and site that serves FB ads, every app and site that uses FB for metrics, and we have an unintentional DDoS just waiting to happen.
This is 'cache', my OpenWRT router has this for thousands of records, but negative cache means: "remember this domain doesn't exist and don't retry asking other DNS providers". This is very dangerous.

Your browser AND operating system AND router already provide DNS caching, it's not something average user should even think about. You might want to consider it when things in your ISP go wrong (hello BT), or majority of computer request the same domains frequently, but then again, your router should do it already.
That is in no way gonna make people forget the whistleblower story - if anything, it's gonna increase the antipathy to having a single point of failure. Face it, everyone hates FB, even the people who spend the most time on it.
I'm sure this sort of thing won't be a problem for a company whose founding ethos is 'move fast and break things.' O:-)
>Our small non profit also sees a huge spike in DNS traffic. It’s really insane.

It's not crazy; people are panicking over Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp being down and they keep trying to connect to those services. I mean I would panic too if I were social media junky.
Don't you think this is some sort of caching or something in your WhatsApp client?
Since WhatsApp is unreachable, how would your client "retrieve" your deleted messages?
> how are people ending up with such "terrible" stuff on their news feed?

Because their FB friends post it, or the groups they are in post it, and they interact with it (even if to say "stop posting this crap" to their family members).

I used to see it a lot, then I unfollowed (but stayed "friends") with the family members who posted that crap or marked the content "don't show me this" and now I rarely see it.
It is hard to see at first, but the lack of design and features is itself a feature, and perhaps crucial to what keeps HN chugging along. UX emerges not only from what you add, but also what you do not.
Businesses which rely on Facebook, as their sole distribution channel could get out of business if Facebook goes out. A lot of economical value will be lost.
there was a great tweet earlier about all the people who were in VR when it happened now being stuck in limbo ;)
I'm still waiting for a covid vaccine named Ambrosia
I don't know how WhatsApp works but e2e doesn't mean that messages can't be cached/stored in their encrypted form. Actually they almost certainly are since otherwise messages couldn't be delivered to recipients while your phone is off/disconnected.
The fact that almost all industries have some level of ethical problems does not mean that there aren't worse industries than the rest, or that you should somehow take no moral responsibility in choosing a job.
I have no personal umbrage if somebody weighs the risk and decides against the shot. What's confusing is when people only acknowledge one side of the risk equation and couch it as some sort of risk-based decision.

>I, for instance, want to take the shot only when I know for sure it won't affect me.

That's fine. What's incongruent is when it's followed up with the sentiment below.

>I went to supermarkets, pharmacies, whatever at that time with no mask

I don't quite understand the logic. You don't want the shot because the risk uncertainty is too great. Yet you have no problem (likely, in your words) exposing yourself to the disease at a frame when there was little data about it and the uncertainty was also great. Now that there's more data, the uncertainty is even more in favor of the vaccine being safer than the disease.

Again, I don't really care if people don't want to get the vaccine on a personally level. But, absent of some grand conspiracy, don't try to rationalize that decision as some pragmatic risk-based analysis. If you do think its riskier due to some large conspiracy that, too, will need some data to back it up. Make peace with the fact its an emotionally based decision and not a data-driven one and move on.
> The design is perfect. It’s information dense while being really clear and easy to use. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the design.

I’d argue that unformatted quotes is a pretty clear design opportunity, especially when code blocks are misused enough that mobile use is regularly impacted by it.
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I think we've all known this since 1968. When HAL refused to open the pod bay doors for Dave.
Yes, I am in the same boat here. It feels like there is always a new iOS or Android version being released which always manages to break a feature on my app and sheds months off of my life.
How about effective altruism, trying to evaluate the usefulness of charities ethics to do the most good in the world?
Understanding how Facebook disappeared from the internet
That's because:

1. No one used Windows Phone either

2. The use-case wasn't really clear.

"Run Office apps on a regular computer-sized monitor!" I can already do that, using the computer-sized computer connected to my computer-sized monitor.

"Setup is simple using Continuum-compatible accessories" So I have to buy a new keyboard/mouse/monitor/something else? (No, but it sounds like I might have to)

The pitch was "You can use your phone kind of like a PC, assuming every app you need runs on Windows phone" (which, for almost everyone, is absolutely not the case). If there's one thing Windows phone was famous for, it was not having apps.

Essentially, Microsoft was trying to pitch you a feature that let you use a phone + monitor and keyboard as a replacement for some of the apps on your PC. Not a compelling pitch, except for presentations.
The article says this was "according to a report from researchers in the U.S., the U.K. and Australia." I wish it included a link.
I assume all of the tertiary sites that use "Login with Facebook" are broken now too? So glad I never adopted that.
This is all total left brain looping and complexity coming home to roost.
Ah, sorry! Janky internet due to today's bad internet weather.
And of course you test your OOB weekly to make sure every device in every POP is accessible all the time, automatically and systematically, right?

Otherwise, Murphy's Law ensures that when you desperately need to access the peering router in 60 Hudson, or Equinix Chicago, or 1 Wilshire to fix an outage, that will be the modem that doesn't answer the phone, or the console cable that got pinched in a door.

(again, not referring to today's outage)
I guarantee you that every single person at Facebook who can do anything at all about this, already knows there's an issue. What would them receiving an extra notification help with?
This sounds like fun!

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> you could return garbage (127.0.0.1) with a 5 min ttl

I use 0.0.0.0, though I'm not sure if some layer in that mess would interpret it creatively. Has worked on my machine for years at least:

$ ping facebook.com
connect: Invalid argument

(If you do this, please set the TTL to at least a month, and preferably upwards of a decade.)
Quite frankly I think it's the traditional media losing importance due to social media and making it look evil. The only way they can make money is by selling outrage.
ad-surveillance supported free websites is ok, but paid membership access is late stage capitalism?
And right now, the world is a slightly better place
Who knows. I use PiHole where all DNS records are cached (not chats, nor messages). Maybe this is the reason why it happens to me. And regards Twitter (obviously), I'm not the only one who is facing this weird behaviour.
If I do:

nslookup
> server 8.8.8.8
Default Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8
> facebook.com
Server: dns.google
Address: 8.8.8.8

DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
DNS request timed out.
timeout was 2 seconds.
*** Request to dns.google timed-out

Weird.
It seems to me there are privacy knock-on effects. How long does the logging need to be on? If you turn on logging, does it turn on logging for all? (Seems likely yes)
Therefore one warrant can put all other privacy-desiring users at risk...
I've seen a couple fail to log in, because their SSO is broken through this. (even if FB login is merely an option)
Given it's a routing problem, doesn't it matter where your office is on the network with respect to the servers that control the door locks?

You could be in a zone of stability that's not affected by the overall chaos.
The Supreme Court itself is a partisan institution, now more than ever, and every reading of the Constitution has been subject to partisan biases since forever. That's not to say we have no checks and balances, just that they are not independent. More like interdependent and part of a vicious cycle; biased legislators appoint biased judges who exonerate biased executives who reward biased legislators. I think the cycles of the last few years have made that abundantly clear, but any cursory reading of US history should reveal this is not a new pattern. It's just how the system has always worked, our folklore notwithstanding.
I know you're just replying to the parent statement but unfortunately in this case the SOA went down with the ship. None of the (admittedly few) clients I've tested are caching the lack of a response for facebook.com's SOA or address records.
I am honestly shocked HN is not using a CDN
Yes I meant for transferring to another DNS server. In this case, they can't.
IIRC K-Mart ran a TV ad that played on "shipped" sounding kinda like "shit", promoting their ability to ship stuff you bought. "I shipped my pants!" "I shipped the bed!"
Someone who doesn't want to deploy on a Friday?
> If only IRC would have been built with multi-server setups in mind, that forward messages between servers, and continues to work if a single - or even a set - of servers would go down, just resulting in a netsplit...Oh wait, it was!

yeah if only Facebook's production engineering team had hired a team of full time IRCops for their emergency fallback network...
That model works great, until you need to ask for permission to go into the office, and the way to get permission is to use internal email and ticketing systems, which are also down.
I'm 90% with you, but I'd love them to do something to stop it being so easy to "fat finger" the hide link directly above main links when on mobile - just a tiny bit more space would work wonders.
Telegram seems down too, is it down for you?
You can use a custom npm prefix to avoid the mess you're describing. So basically:

See current prefix:

> npm config get prefix

Set prefix to something you can write to without sudo:

> npm config set prefix /some/custom/path
Krebs is pretty good in my opinion.
* ...an implementation detail that makes the implementation possible.
Rent a gasoline powered demolition saw with a diamond blade for $55 at Home Depot. Solve problem. Explain later.
Oh great, and at some point when key ISP DNS servers crack under the load, more and more websites will appear to "go down" from a users perspective - suddenly gmail.com and outlook.com not working. More and more people reload websites, restart devices etc. and increase the load even further. People fall back to using SMS/telephone, but since it is not used to that heavy load of 2021, soon phone calls fail. With FB, WA, Email and Phone "down", engineers can't be reached to fix this. And if they can, they fail to call the Uber to get them somewhere. And even if they could, the streets are congested with people that cannot communicate remotely so try to get somewhere to convey messages in-person.

Hope they will just go back to fix FB and this is just in my head :)
Of course it's real. There is just far more right-wing authoritarianism right now, so that's what most people focus on.
Facebook isn't by chance experimenting with an advanced self-aware AI with access to its security systems, is it...?
It's getting bad again on MacOS. Big Sur made window title bars vastly bigger. Using my new mini on a 1080P monitor is pain. I really hate that no one implements a 75% scaling option for MacOS or Windows.

Saddest part is I have a replacement 1440P monitor showing up later in the week since I had to drag mine to work and it doesn't even help all that much. Macs in stores all have 2-5K resolution screens now ruining things for budget monitor folks with cheap Mac Minis.
There is a requirement to be able to instantly revoke a person's badge access, so you can't cache the data. It has to check every time.

You could set the system up to push data out to all of the badge readers whenever there is a change, but that's a big messy operation. A more complex but probably workable solution is to have them readers cache the data but also have the server maintain a list of those caches, and when someone is changed you invalidate all of the readers that the person used within the last cache timeout period. Even then it is still messy, if a reader has temporarily lost network connectivity their cache could be out of sync. It's one of those problems that gets really hairy once you're down in the weeds working out the details.
Kind of!

Any secured area isn’t going to have easily broken windows, but there’s also no such thing as an intrusion proof building. Ultimately the main point of any security system is to slow down an attacker before people with guns show up and pointedly ask you to stop doing that. If it’s your building, you can use a blowtorch to get in if you need to, it just won’t be as fast as say, breaking into a residential home.
Seems like the opposite lesson to me - Telegram is kind of iffy, not sure about the others. The only thing that's been really solid today is Google. So I guess depend on multiple enormous centralized services?
Because they want to see it, and then the algorithm feeds them more, intensifying their beliefs.
basically facebook deleted itself
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This is all left brain implimentation with looping and classic complexity coming home to roost. As we move through time, we build off of solutions of the past which are solving a problem, but complexity keeps adding on and this is a classic programming/computer science delemma.
For what it's worth, all of the systems that Apple has shipped with the M1 are replacing systems which also did not have replaceable components and could not manage incremental updates.

The main difference that I see is that the M1 chip is much faster and more power efficient than the systems it replaced (as well as much more expensive systems, for that matter; see M1 Air vs. Macbook Pro). I suspect that means that people who buy the M1 systems that Apple is selling won't replace their laptops as soon as people who bought x86 versions.

Your point is taken, but this is a trend that Apple has been moving towards regardless; it's not something that's new to the M1 Macs. You haven't ever been able to swap out your motherboard or processor in a Macintosh with very few exceptions (including the Xeon Mac Pros), and we've yet to see what an M1 (or M2 or whatever) Mac Pro would look like, expandability-wise, anyway.
I know that in Ontario, the Bruce Nuclear Plant (with about 8GW capacity) is designed to run indefinitely through a power outage and did during the Northeast blackout in 2003. I assume that sort of power would be enough to bootstrap the grid in Ontario.
My guess is with facebook properties down people are procrastinating here. Also news.yc temds to be a good place to find timely updates by smart people on outages like this.
Very curious much money is being lost by these FB sites at the moment.
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If you log out you get the equivalent of a CDN, and CDNs can't serve logged-in users anyway.
My company is not Facebook, but in our data center there are no windows and the doors and walls in specific areas are designed to hold off physical attacks.
Ok plausible theory. Can you prove it?
Discord is working for me, at least the text is.
The voices, stories, announcements, photos, hopes and sorrows of millions, no, literally billions of people, and the promise that they may one day be seen and heard again now rests in the hands of Dave, the one guy who is closest to a Microcenter, owns his own car and knows how to beat the rush hour traffic and has the good sense to not forget to also buy an RS-232 cable, since those things tend to get finicky.
Some of us use these services to communicate with our friends.
Clearly "our entire network is down, worldwide" wasn't part of their planning. Don't get too cocky with your 20/20 hindsight.
Should say "Facebook owned. Sites are down."
Facebook stock down 5%
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Good. Facebook should be forcefully and globally taken offline for the crimes its sites commit on a daily basis. All Facebook employees should be arrested and put into solitary confinement until we get to the bottom of the crimes they are individually and collectively guilty of.

Terroristic actions taken against these corporations are entirely justified. This holds true for Twitter, Google, Apple, and Amazon.
Or evergrande.
Sure, they did have a shortage of components, but the existing components were simple, clear, attractive. No ugly oval floating buttons or chiseled navbars hugging the FAB.

Currently, the notes app is a good example of such uglyfication: what was previously a simple attractive app now sports a horrendous navbar with ugly squarerounded plus button of unclear color. Phew.
I was thinking more of the ticking time-bomb variety, but that seems as good a time as any?
I'm fairly certain that my ISP was affected by this causing an outage of all internet traffic for my network. So it seems possible, although I imagine using an alternate DNS provider should work ok (if they're not overrun by extra traffic)?

Unfortunately I'm not sure what the default DNS on the modem points to..
This isn't how badge readers work. Every controlled door is wired to a relay panel. That panel connects to a access control db - but it always maintains a cache that is very slow to expire... because the manufacturers weren't clueless morons.
Thank you for the advice, and I offer some in return: be careful to not mistake what seems to be for what actually is.
Google Talk, Google Voice, Google Buzz, Google+ Messenger, Hangouts, Spaces, Allo, Hangouts Chat, and Google Messages.

At some point, they must run out of names, right?
Your link is for Netherlands only.

Worldwide it looks like Telegram is benefitting.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=now%207-d&q=te...
Oh I'm familiar with Samantha, what I wasn't so over is all the stuff to do with the stones. Do you have any sources for that that I can read into?
Even more than that I hope Blue Origin tries to get even with SpaceX by ways of engineering prowess instead of lawfare. Thus far they seem to be more willing to take to the latter than the former. While "no bucks, no Buck Rogers"[1] may be true I've seen more Buck Rogers for far fewer bucks coming from SpaceX than what I've seen from Blue Origin. They have been stuck at the X-prize level for years now, with not much proof of any capability to go beyond that.

[1] https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/no+bucks%2C+no+Buck+Rog...
Almost same thing happened when Signal went down:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25803010 Signal apps DDoS'ed their own server

Second comment was saying there is no point using Signal if they are down during 2 days. Only a few hours for FB yet but curiously nobody is saying the same :)
It’s when a domain doesn’t quite have what it takes for the MLB.
It's disappointingly common for cloud-backed apps and device firmware to go into a hot retry loop on any kind of network failure. A lot of engineers just haven't heard of exponential backoff, to say nothing of being able to implement and test it properly for a scenario that almost never happens.

Even if you assume Facebook's own apps have reasonable failure logic, there's all kinds of third-party apps and devices integrating with their API that probably get it wrong. Surprise botnet!