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>there is zero expectation to work on teams that service immoral industries or companies.

Except for management consulting, of course.
samsung has the "phone to desktop" application for some of its devices. Called "Dex"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_DeX

makes sense when these devices are already more powerful (and expensive) than you Raspberry Pi.
That gives you three months to get the decision makers on the phone and make your case about starting an independent nonprofit that will own all the IP and that they will all get a piece of. From your first post it sounds like they've already rejected anything short of that.
A critical fact that destroys modern narratives about the supposedly naive rationales behind Prohibition is that the 18th Amendment was only supposed to apply to what we now call hard liquor, not to beer and wine. Indeed, much of the country already had similar or identical legislation yet beer and wine was perfectly legal in most (all?) of those localities. The Federal prohibition was simply for national consistency with a public policy that was well tested.

Unfortunately, an overly pedantic Supreme Court interpreted "intoxicating liquors" very broadly, resulting in a national ban that far exceeded the state and local legislation with which most people were accustomed and comfortable. It was the narrower definition only encompassing distilled liquor that the public knowingly gave their consent.
Doesn't the added context change it from a moral argument to a pragmatic one about opsec as it were? Morally not locking your door doesn't mean you should be robbed. Practically it means you are more likely to be robbed.
I've never rebooted my AppleTV aside from updates. Double click the home button on the remote and swipe up to kill an app.
There are a hell of a lot of non-linux OS's running on core routers, but yes, in a way. However BGP isn't via email.
I guess but who is surprised? We know the American tech mafia is not following any rules.
I mean, Cambridge Analytica is the example here. Facebook has been privy to some shady shit at the very least. Is it likely that they purposefully took down all their revenue making machines to distract from the 60 minutes piece? No, probably not. But they've demonstrated that they can't be trusted so it's at least worth investigating.
> That doesn't exonerate the US by any stretch; our government does a ton of shady shit, much of it arguably unconstitutional or extrajudicial, from warrantless wiretaps to drone executions of US citizens. But these make the news, which indicates 1) at least there is a relatively free press and 2) they are unusual enough as to be noteworthy, as opposed to commonplace and not discussed.

Does what is reported by the media equate to the sum total of US malfeasance? I sometimes wonder if there is an Overton's Window for the public's appetite for corruption and exposure of systemic exploitation.

> China doesn't share the same values as the West. The individual is deemphasized for the collective good, as defined by the current CCP elite of any decade.

Could the 2 power structures have different approaches to how the individual is de-emphasised for collective good? Perhaps the US has a more diffused and opaque strategy of achieving the same end? I say this because Americans signal opportunity and the virtues of social agency to one another at all levels of society - but each time I travel there it seems like a social nightmare where few are actually contented once you get past the small talk.
These things didn't start because FB was invented.
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They made they own BGP tools and looks like it failed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfYUbKNEyc
> The outage has pretty much buried that story,

Strongly disagree. The outage has millions of people entering "Facebook" into their search engines. Most engines will conveniently put related news at the top of the search results page. The most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower.

Plus everyone has a lot of spare time to read the article now that Facebook and Instagram are down.

The outage didn't bury the story. It amplified it. Any suggestions that Facebook did this on purpose don't even make sense.
Aaaaaaand it's down!
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I guess but who is surprised? We know the American tech mafia is not following any rules.

They just tell the lusers some lies and carries on with collecting their data.
Best thing everyone who has account in any of FB related properties is to change your password soon as it's back. Then don't use the old password anywhere, if you do, change those too.
An abrupt, unplanned outage will probably do more to hasten a transition away from these services than any slow, planned transition would.
Kinda like this? https://pypi.org/project/opencannabis/
> Its a daycare center for young adults.

Actually, my experience with FB (I have an account, but don't spend much time, there), is that it is packed with grayhairs, like me.

I think the younger folks have other venues they frequent.
In my experience, a data warehouse usually has an ETL process at the beginning. Data comes in from disparate sources and on a regular basis, it is ETLd into a shape that is ready to use by the business.
On the other hand, a data lake slurps in all the data as soon as it is available, in whatever form it is in. You have to process it into the business-consumable form when you query/egress it, but you don't have to know your dream schema up front.
He is still an anonymous dude to me.
Before Instagram, many families would send out Christmas update letters to all their friends and relatives full of almost entirely happy news. Then you'd hear about the pending divorce a few months later. People haven't changed.
> Edit: I also hope this doesn't damage prospects for more Work From Home. If they couldn't get anyone who knew the configuration in because they all live a plane ride away from the datacenters, I could see managers being reluctant to have a completely remote team for situations where clearly physical access was needed.

You're conflating working remotely ("a plane ride away") and working from home.

You're also conflating the people who are responsible network configuration, and for coming up with a plan to fix this; and the people who are responsible for physically interacting with systems. Regardless of WFH those two sets likely have no overlap at a company the size of Facebook.
I actually think most importantly it shows everyone what the world without FB is like ;)
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>It's always DNS

How is this not the top comment? Underrated
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Yes, conspiracy theories amok. Mine: considering the 60 minutes piece, could be a disgruntled, internal employee as well?
I mean connecting your company to the internet when you have billions of devices waiting in the line to fetch updates, or whatever.

Will not that be an issue? Re-enabling routing to such a massive internet service...
Thanks for the tip!

Yeah, apps hang all the time. They don't crash, per se, but you can't break out of the screen they are presenting.
They should get a raise!
If only my pocket WhatsApp device had other ways to contact people, now I'll have to go get a new device.

Seriously as transitions go, leaving WhatsApp and Messanger will be the smoothest most painless transition there ever was.
Right, I know that, and I usually try to avoid conspiratorial thinking, but man, Zuck doesn't make it easy.

I'm just trying to process that FB is having its historic, all-networks global outage today of all days. And I bet FB would have paid double of whatever this will eventually cost them to make that story go away.
Are they really?

I guess technically they might be - it seems at least one person there says they are - but I doubt the entire population of Taiwan wants to commit mass suicide.

And Australia and the US and Japan and others are not going to step up to defend Taiwan because China, unlike Iraq, and Afghanistan, and most recent US foes, can actually fight back.

And China would likely win a war anywhere near China's sphere of influence, and the risk of the US actually engaging in a war with China would likely end life on earth as we all know it.

Then again, the GOP party - and even the Dems - have shown a consistent willingness to race to the precipice of disaster by increasing the likelihood of ending the world through mutual nuclear self-destruction.

So, I don't see Taiwan committing mass suicide -- but a mass earth murder/suicide started by America?

100% possible.

Likely?

Depends on the day.

And the POTUS.
My guess is that Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram are down so everybody is somewhere else and all those other sites can't handle it.
No, just the sixty thousand Facebook engineers flock here simultaneously in search for technical clues.
You might want to clean your mouse wheel.
So-called firewalls at i-banks and consulting firms are routinely circumvented. These conflicts are self-policed and waivers are doled out more often than not
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If it is an DNS error, why is the .onion site also offline?

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_onion_address

- facebookwkhpilnemxj7asaniu7vnjjbiltxjqhye3mhbshg7kx5tfyd.onion
FWIW, every article I've read has referenced the interview, and I personally find it hard to believe Facebook would be unaware of the Streisand Effect
FWIW that's not the original source, just some twitter account reposting info shared by someone else. See this sub-thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28750888
So somebody messed up Facebook's BGP records and traffic couldn't be routed to Facebook servers. I wouldn't be surprised if some angry insider(employee) got his revenge on Facebook for whatever reason.
Dividing up last quarters $29B revenue leads to approximately $13.4M per hour of downtime, now past $53M after the 4 hour mark.

But I haven't paid this much attention to Facebook in over a year.
Maybe Zuck watched the interview, agreed and pulled the plug.
Did the whistleblower reveal something we didn't know already?

To me this seems like a million dollar mistake.
> it's weird this happens right after the FB whistleblower interview on 60 minutes

Could a pang of morality have struck one of the employees with the keys to the kingdom?
Data lake: you own your files.
Data warehouse: database owns your files.
Unless “they” were one or two disgruntled employees with the access, know-how, and motive to execute a “mistake”. Emphasis added.
Come again? How, exactly?

I replied to their comment, and substantively responded to something that was actually in their comment.

How is that inconsistent?
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>Meanwhile he is calling me at 1:30am asking if he can come sleep on our couch. I kind of want to ask him about the discrepancy between his online persona vs real life, but I don't want to offend him.

In my house we call this 'Hashtag Blessed".

Because the people we know that write posts with #Blessed are the ones with a completely different reality online.

One dude is sleeping in his camper parked at work because wife saw a screen shot of pornhub on his phone (seriously Apple, so many accidental screen shots weren't a problem when the power button was on top), she's telling him he's cheating on her, and there was a couple in the picture, but the guy was clearly exposed, so while she's having a fit of over this and kicking him out she's seriously asking him if "Like, are you gay now!?"... Next day they need to do some cubscouts events, so it's smile #Blessed.
You're not wrong, but on some level given his freedom to enslave and murder people, it is surprising that in universe he is vulnerable to normal cops
Wait what? Hmm I wonder why I thought that... thank you for some good news!
I wonder if they managed to get caught in a catch-22 where they can not access the systems to fix it because the access control is the system.
Not always, but tricking people is usually allowed. You have to have pretty specific harm before you get into fraud territory.
As if people wouldn't switch to something different and equivalent within 24 hours if FB's version ceased to exist.
> You should consider that WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger are the primary communication method for large parts of the globe.

I wish regulators would have though that before allowing the purchase of WhatsApp by Facebook. That both of the main messaging apps are down at the same time is worrisome.
> Did the whistleblower reveal something we didn't know already?

A lot. The resulting Wall Street Journal series directly led to the shut down of Instagram for Kids.
> Technical issue (most probably the case) or coverup?

The whistleblower story is all over every news site.

Turning off everyone's favorite time wasting website is the worst possible way to cover it up. How many people are typing "Facebook down" into Google and getting the Facebook whistleblower news story in the "Related News" section of their results?

It's not a coverup.
It's not just/primarily a DNS error.
The media coverage and lots of the comments don't make sense to me. FB would not be so stupid and put all of their crucial DNS servers into a single autonomous system (which is now offline due to BGP issues). They operate literally dozens of datacenters around the world, and are surely not using a single AS for them - why not put secondary Nameservers there?
Can someone make a sense of this?
I am one of those zombies and I'm older than Tom Brady.
I never see political videos. Only videos in my very narrow interest.
Not an indepth technical comment here but: seeing a tech megacorp go offline for a day makes me very very happy.
That's still ignoring the problem. "Self-driving" tech is no where near that. You gotta set your expectations correctly.

We're at the "Firetruck with flashing lights was hit at full speed on FSD mode" stage of the problem. This means that the depth-field mapping broke. The car was unable to tell how far away the firetruck was, and plowed full speed into the firetruck.

Its very telling that the other self-driving companies are using LIDAR to build the depth map, instead of trying to create depth-maps through deep learning.
Rumormill is suggesting that facebook badge readers are also down causing issues with trying to get to the servers to manually fix them.

https://twitter.com/sheeraf/status/1445099150316503057?s=21
https://www.sevarg.net/2021/06/20/so-starlink/

It's around 85W continuous on the white hardware, I understand some of the newer generations are a bit more power efficient. Power use while transmitting goes up higher.

I just run it on the grid. :/ Yes, it's 2kWh/day.
In some parts of the world feature phones and some smartphones are pocket WhatsApp devices. Free data if you're using FB and WhatsApp, with phone calls and SMS also covered (but that doesn't help much with international communication, international SMS is even more unreliable than domestic SMS). It's not that they'll need a new device, they'll need a new service plan that costs more money.
Not only security. Also privacy! I started to see messages that I know 100% that I deleted days or weeks ago?!

https://twitter.com/Pytlicek/status/1445072626729242637
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> It's gotten to a point where extracting handwritten text is done reliably for very cheap.

Is that freeform handwritten documents, or handwritten text filled into boxes on a form?
> recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is about the whistleblower

With respect I am pretty sure that the most recent and widespread Facebook-related news story is this one.

Holistically I agree that this isn't the kind of distraction Facebook wants, although it tickles me to imagine Mark in the datacenter going Rambo with a pair of wire cutters.
Core help links in Windows used to use an embedded version of the system browser (at the time IE) originally https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help. If they wanted to do that today for the above reasons they could do the same with WebView2 which is the OS embedded version of Edge. Instead they are launching the external instance of Edge which can still be screwed up for reasons outside the OS's control (such as an experimental edge://flags option that causes a crash on launch).
You said it's naive but didn't actually present a reasonable alternative.
Anyone who has actually worked in the field can tell you that a deploy or config change going wrong, at some point, and wiping out your remote access / ability to deploy over it is incredibly, crazy likely.
This outage is huge. I'm waiting for the write-up, assuming they release one
Non-Paywall link:
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I'm sorry, I no longer have an easy way to do that. The inverter is dead silent unless it's loaded up, at which point I've got enough other running loads that I don't really hear the inverter. Air conditioner makes plenty of airflow noise.

I think it's around 70dB on a typical day, quiet mornings can be down in the 50dB range? I measured it a while ago, but I no longer have the smartphones I used to do that around.
App store updates vs OS updates.
to be fair... the stackoverflow tech team requires stackoverflow to restart the company

(along with the rest of the world)
> People who are ignorant of how fast their software could be do not deserve abuse from strangers.

That's not the only valid way to frame the situation. At some level, professional software developers have a responsibility to be somewhat aware of the harm their currently-shipping code is doing.
Do you have more info on what that looks like? I guess I'm just lost.
Anecdotal, but I just tried Google + Bing and topline Facebook-related news is all about the outage.
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One of my employers once forced all the staff to use an internally-developed messenger (for sake of security, but some politics was involved as well), but made an exception for the devops team who used Telegram.
The only one they have is serial and the company's one usb-to-serial converter is missing.
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Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: but the how is clear: Earlier this morning, something inside Facebook caused the company to revoke key digital records that tell computers and other Internet-enabled devices how to find these destinations online.
That one guy's comments seen fine from a PR perspective apart from it not being his role to communicate for the company.

I still think he should be fired for this kind of communication though. One reason is, imagine Facebook didn't punish breaches of this type. Every other employee is going to be thinking "Cool, I could be in a Wired article" or whatever. All they have to do is give sensitive company information to reporters.

Either you take corporate confidentiality seriously or you don't. Posting details of a crisis in progress on your Reddit account is not taking corporate confidentiality seriously. If the Facebook corporation lightly punishes, scolds, or ignores this person then the corporation isn't taking confidentiality seriously either.
You falsely assume Hacker News is even remotely what Facebook PR gives a shit about.
This story is a smoke screen. The government in general - that is, some branches of the government starting with the NSA - already obtains all this information, and more, automatically from Google, whether willingly or otherwise. No warrant, no specific orders, no nothing. That is part of Edward Snowden's revelations:

https://wiki.openrightsgroup.org/wiki/Guardian_and_Snowden_r...

Many large media outlets have basically buried this fact rather quickly after the initial coverage of the revelations, and now we can have stories about how "the keyword warrant" being "one of the more contentious". Sure, it's contentious, since _more_ government bodies get easier access to some of the information, but its infraction of people's privacy is nothing compared to the vast public spying.

One should also mention the mechanism of "National Security Letters", in which the executive branch of the US federal (only?) government can compel non-govenrment entities, in secret, to provide them with whatever information they deem necessary for national security purposes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter
Yeah but journalists are happy to connect the dots between the two stories and honestly my brain loves the coincidence of these two thingy being clustered: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/what-happened-to-faceboo...
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My guess is that the FB backend also required DNS. The .Onion site isn't backed by a backend built on a onion native stack (is that a thing?)
I'm happy to have a discussion if you're willing to accept that kratom is addictive.

Suggesting that the 25k kratom addicts on that subreddit all took fentanyl-laced kratom, and kratom itself is absolutely non-addictive, is delusional nonsense which I'm not going to engage with.

If you want to engage on the basis of reality, I'm very happy to chat. I think you'll find I'm a hell of a lot more open to healthy opioid use than 99% of the people you'll find on this planet, but I'm not going to enable you in your delusions.
Could one single person really inflict that much damage without a balance/check or code deployment review process in place?
DNS lookups are certainly slower for random sites. I just opened an about zero traffic site that i hadn't gone to in a while (so dns not cached). It took a while (10 seconds?) to load the first time. Insta load the second time.

This seems to happen for .com but not other TLDs so maybe .com is getting hammered?
The first question is, did the programmer create and hide this SSD killing mechanism in a program you would not expect this of? If you can't show intent or malic then your chances of successfully suing go way down.

Now as far as a bug that causes excessive writes and accidental damage their might be a case but it's tricky. First is it a bug or is the program trying to a excessively "safe" with it's data. If you cannot tolerate data loss then you should prefer SSD wear. You account for SSD failures through established mechanisms such as raid.

Even if it can be shown it's a bug, and could never be counted as a feature, the liability of the programmer will likely be limited by the license agreement.

I think the real problem is that even if it's something that was reported and corrected with a bug report, one person's bug is another person's operating as intended.
That doesn't make a lot of sense though - Facebook generates revenue primarily from ad traffic (on all sorts of sites). It needs to be up for reputation and to harvest ever more detail for 'improving' those ads, sure, but not for revenue. (Modulo blip from ads on its own site.)

So you can't just divide over time like that.
The Netflix app is especially bad about this. At least on my prior-gen 4K ATV, do a search in the Netflix app and you'll never get out of the search menu. Menu button does nothing, select one of the items in search does nothing because as soon as you Menu out of it, you're back to the unescapable search screen. The only way out is to kill the Netflix app. (This might have been fixed, haven't watched anything on Netflix in a while. Definitely repro'ed a month ago.)

And, BTW, you might not need to reboot to escape a lockup. I don't have an ATV on and accessible, but I'm pretty sure you double-tap the TV/Home button that brings up an Alt-Tab-like view of your running apps. Swipe or arrow left or right to the problem app, swipe up to kill it. It's what I do with the Netflix app way too often, like when I used the search functionality. :-)