skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Isn't protected class an american legal term? Seems weirdly ameri-centric for a document of this nature. Not to mention that gay people weren't even a protected class in the usa until last year afaik. Not exactly a very inclusive definition.

Not to mention the implication that harrasment is somehow ok against people who are not members of the protected class? I appreciate minorities get a lot of shit that others don't, but its not like bigioted assholes are the only people who harrass other people.
I find it confusing too, but my reading of this is that @hmdne is trolling, but the actual changes @hmdne wants to make are fine and defensible in their own right and in fact make it easier to kick out trolls like @hmdne (e.g., a troll can claim that their trollish proposition is an "opposing view" that one needs to be respectful of), and so people are engaging in good faith to try to deflate the troll.

Some of these comments are obviously bait to me - e.g., the one about how we should privilege members of boards of directors - and this looks like a careful attempt not to take the bait.

Note that PR 2690 is not from @hmdne and was unchanged from how it was proposed. PR 2691 is, and perhaps should not have been accepted in its present form because of the "protected class" language, but there are good-faith comments in 2690 (with no mention of corporations) about why the "opposing views" line should be removed.
Might as well climb to the top just to be sure.
Keep in mind that it’s not all about simplicity. One of the selling points of MarkDown is that it’s legible even when left in its plain text source format.

HTML is ugly when left in its source format.
> Individual engineers were assigned to many projects and each had to deal with multiple managers fighting for their time.

The misunderstanding I saw across several organizations of different sizes was the mistaken rationale that surely, I should be able to take up "just" 25% of your time. When there are 5 other groups, there is nothing at all sure about that statement. Either you are lucky to get 10% or you're riding that employee into burnout and don't understand how they just up and quit one day.
My posts here often talk about "internalizing the externalities" by putting taxes on externalities like pollution. The tax rate would be higher the more dangerous they are.

Free markets do not imply being free to hurt others or destroy others' property. A proper function of government is to protect people and property.

For example, I would not ban gasoline. I would tax the carbon content of fuels to reflect their true cost to the environment.
I doubt a lot of passengers go to SF State at night
You viewpoint don't seem to be very convincing if snark is your best response to that question.
[CoC authors] should speak and act with good intentions, but understand that intent and impact are not equivalent.
Can no-code tools boost your marketing performance?
Changing it enables a certain kind of flame-war where people become entrenched in thinking the other side is out to get them and actually evil. Assuming the best intentions is a good way to make sure you combat what someone is doing rather than attacking them as a person.
+1 wokeness for them, next.
Yeah I don't really see a distinction between trolls coming in and posting offensive stuff and ideologues coming in and hijacking a project for their cause. Both are detrimental to actually building something good, and both basically need a benevolent dictator to keep them at bay.
Though if one already have a car, then it might make sense to use it to get better value from tax and insurance
reminds me of the old Dell WMI parameter "MaximumFiddlyPlasticPieces"
i'm guessing they probably added this around when they added keyphrase spotting (wake words) for siri although i think i remember reading about low power always on features being added for pedometry to both androids and iphones way back when.

android has similar functionality, as does any modern computer really (wake on lan, power management, remote management features, etc)
the "bad faith actor/tactic" argument is a dismissive mechanism to justify overreaction.
No it isn't? It's unchanged in the linked PR.
No search results for California Core Corporate Policies. But CCCP looks just like the Russian initials for the Soviet Union.

Someone with the same name invoked the old good intentions clause on the mailing list.[1] Apparently sincerely.

[1] http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/...
Just consider the possibility that any large multi-national corporation or national government these days has datacenters that contain untold computational power. A hundred thousand CPU cores to a hundred million, with petabytes of RAM and perhaps exabytes of storage. It is now not only entirely feasible but it is but a flesh wound to surveil everyone, everywhere, all the time. In fact, it's far less suspicious to just constantly suck in as much data as possible all the time, and filter, index, and store it for later. In the event of a mass casualty event, like a Boston marathon bombing, 9/11, or something like what you mentioned, there will be no activation necessary, just a few SQL queries, maybe a mapreduce.

You are nothing. You are navel lint. But all the navel lint gets sucked up into the filter, too.

Welcome to the quiet all-seeing eye. Tremble and kneel to those who will wield it! Don't deviate from social norms. Don't be different. Don't stick out. Just pretend you don't know.
I read about spring's best practices and think some are unnecessary boilerplate code without any real benefits.

I get the theory, but in practice, the benefits are just theoretical. You could reimplement interfaces for your tests, but it is easier just to use a mocking library.
That's like most of what cops do in the US
At a certain point, it makes more sense to have a family tree diagram with alphanumeric labels for every possible relation cardinality referenced to self, and just encode those as an enum like ContactRelationA4, ContactRelationB1, etc. And just point people to the diagram.

The Apple way is just long, impossible to parse (whose Father?) and in general pushes a lot of code smell buttons for me ("not sure what it is, but I'm dang sure it's rotten")
>Ok, so why does it matter if it's a "drug" and not a "vaccine"?

Because they keep calling people who want to take the drug "anti-vaxxers" lumping them in with people who are against vaccines.

I'm not anti-vaxxer, so it's a lie to call me one. I also am not interested in taking the anti-COVID drug.

Not wanting to take the new, barely tested, anti-COVID drug does not make me an anti-vaxxer even if you change the definition of vaccine to include the anti-COVID drug.

>You're just being contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian. As they say, don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.

No, I am not. People have died, and had their health permanently degraded from this anti-COVID drug. I'm weighing the risks of that against COVID. I'm at very low risk of serious illness from COVID, and unknown risk from the anti-COVID drug. So I'm not taking the drug.

It's not "contrarian" and it's not "making a mountain out of a molehill" it's my body, my choice.

I thing vaccines are amazing and I look forward to new ones. The anti-covid drug isn't one. It's that simple.
Thanks for the feedback. I don't think we're intentionally charging to turn off CNAME flattening. May be that we just don't expose that to lower plans because we're worried it'll confuse people. Raised the feedback with the team. In most cases, CNAME flattening is a significant win on performance. But understand when you'd want to do it in some cases.

Will also check on NS delegation. Again, my hunch is that we only charge for it because it's something that less sophisticated users we worry would get themselves in trouble messing with.
Agreed that the 737 MAX did not help, but this is also a failure of all of the other regulatory agencies the world over that rubber stamped the FAA approval instead of doing their own. It certainly looks as though this served as a wake up call - it should! - and that a re-occurrence is relatively unlikely in the near future (until everybody becomes complacent again).

Self driving may be a software problem, but that does not necessarily mean that we have the means to make that software a reality today. Given that fact that we know that intelligent beings make plenty of errors and that they are much smarter than your average self driving system, the enormous range of conditions and inputs and the relatively limited amount of computing power that can be thrown at this problem I highly doubt that it is a 'mere matter of software engineering' at this point, taking into account the state of the art.

Agreed that testing it is super complex, in fact, I think that testing is the key: without a fully representative test equivalent to a driving test none of this software should be on the street. That's what we agreed upon: pass the driving test and you are allowed to drive. American driving tests are ridiculously simple, so it should be easy to pass such a test and yet that hasn't even been made a mandatory requirement for certifying a self driving solution. Until then I don't think any of this stuff should be on public roads.

I don't think the CA DMV needs an army of sofware engineers or data scientists, they are first and foremost a regulatory body that can hire external experts to give them guidance, and I suspect that they genuinely believe that self driving systems from these manufacturers are now solid enough to be given wider latitude during this experimental phase. I personally disagree with the decision, but I do think it is progress, that a regulatory body would dare to attach their name to such a decision rather than to play it safe, this is a clear shift in perception. Time will tell whether or not it was the right decision, if it turns out it wasn't there will be a bigger set-back than this was a step forward.
thinking the same thing. this infantilization by these grown adults are pretty weird. why is virtue signaling spreading everywhere?
"My views on verbal abuse are summarized on [verbal abuse platform]."
I'm seeing the same.

I just found this one which works fine, and it also has dark mode
http://hn.premii.com
I don't know that I agree, unless you equate "more pay" to the same thing as "more desirable". Typically, I see the opposite where the desirable conditions (fulfillment, status, general low-stress working conditions) with what most people correlate with the more desirable fields. It seems less desirable fields have to make up for that with higher pay.
> FB is majority owned by Zuck.

Which just makes the statement "Facebook is accountable to Mark Zuckerberg".
Zero-Day: Hijacking iCloud Credentials with Apple AirTags (Stored XSS)
That’s a mild “ha ha” kind of joke I’d expect to see on a joke-a-day cartoon calendar.
I'd imagine it's been added to facilitate some very culture-specific familial relationship term. Those tend to be rooted in ancient history and are often inconsistently (and arguably pointlessly) gendered but still need to be maintained to keep that culture happy.
Your phone isn't actually "dead" when it shows out of battery though, since the display can still power on for another hour+. There's a reserve before you hit the true 0%.
> I don't know what specifically motivated this PR

It's mentioned in passing a couple of comments in. To highlight it (because it's easy to miss):

"I watched a group of people use these specific phrases to justify making sexist remarks over a communication channel that falls under these guidelines."
It was changed later.[1]

[1] https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/commit/7e96640e1ca...
"Also changed yesterday"

The line about protected classes is not in addition to a general rule against harassment, or emphasizing that kind of harassment in particular, it replaced that rule.

There is a separate rule against personal attacks, but is that rule supposed to take over harassment in general? That sort of makes sense in a vacuum, but then it leaves the exact meaning of the 'harassment against protected classes' rule kind of confusing. What does harassing a class mean exactly, and can you harass a non-protected class?
Wtf is "protected classes"? Harassement against non protected class will be tolerated? If not, why is it explicitely singled out so?
What a load of commie bull...
Spot on about reading a random blog or article. I think many engineers at work are under pressure to deliver, and are looking for quick solutions. They do a search and see a Medium post related to their problem written by someone who says they are an “<platform> developer at <company>”, and for some reason most readers see these authors as an authority in their domain (because why else would they be writing about it? /s), and just accept the blog post’s practices or conclusions. Once read an article a long time ago about Android’s async task , and some blog post claimed it should only be used for operations less than one second. I looked at the official documentation and while it did mention that it should be used for short operations, no where did it mention it should be less than one second specifically (unless I missed it). I saw the same advice mentioned by many other devs who referenced that same article.
Aka 表妹

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_kinship
> Behaviour which can be considered harassment against protected classes will not be tolerated.

That's... interesting?

Some of the most vitriolic flamewars I've seen on the internet were between western straight white males. I don't see the point of special casing this clause.
Ask anyone who died of smoking-related illnesses.
The example is so anodyne and the pattern of CoC changes so regular that I can't help but expect that this was opportunistic - waiting for any such example to jump on and institute these changes.

The goal is to grant all offend/ed/ parties total, unimpeachable power against purported offend/ers/, and no amount of 'protected classes' cover removes the fact that this enables the same bad faith that harassing parties abuse, just for a different group.

Hold everyone to the same high standard. Period. Done. None of this thumb-on-the-scales nonsense.
The problem is that almost anything, no matter how benign can be considered "offensive". A phrase as innocuous as "pregnant women" has become offensive under this ideology. The goal posts are constantly moving and if you're caught on the wrong side you get persecuted.
To participate in consumerism and capitalism, correct?
Ok, but like, would their overall reputation be higher if they were to directly put some proportion of their inventory up for auction (like, each item individually, not like one auction for a bundle of a very large number of GPUs) instead?
Altran / Praxis and AdaCore.

Used in the software for e.g. French nuclear power plants and other safety-critical systems.
Has anyone actually considered this may be a running joke at Apple? I mean yes, their API's can be quite verbose on naming, but this is just hilarious, and probably left that way. Just a thought. To critique a development practice based on the few names that are like this seems a little shortsighted. This type of contact classification is useless, and probably better left to the programmer to design the hierarchy that best suits their design goal.
I'd guess that, in whatever language this is relevant for, there's a "feminine" marker that is ambiguous wrt whether it modifies parent/father into mother or sibling into sister.
As an actual ADV engineer, do you think this is a reasonable launch? What do you think the timeline actually looks like for driverless and why?
It stands for the Chinese term biaomei which means those things.
Super intriguing. Plot twist: What if you've met someone, you really enjoy working with them, they really enjoy working with you, and there's trust there? Would it still be a nay for you?
I was with the article until this final point about integrated solutions. I see the argument around data lock-in, but integration is typically non-trivial unless it's coming from the same provider. Plus, I'm certain cloudflare would equally love to provide more services in an integrated way.
> how much of you say "police is evil and we will defund police" maybe think about why?

No. They say "this current implementation of our police force are constantly committing evil acts and we should decide as a society whether that is acceptable".

Maybe you should think about why you think your opinion is superior to theirs. I imagine you're not on the receiving end of said evil acts. Dismissing the pain of members of the same society as you seems a bit rough, in my opinion.
These autonomous cars do maneuver like F1 drivers so I guess they are a big improvement already
As I understand it, some people who want to make sexist jokes on the mailing list with impunity pointed to the language about tolerating opposing views to claim that their desire to belittle women on the mailing list must be tolerated.

Maybe they should point to Karl Popper's paradox of tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

edit: evidently someone thinks this comment is worthy of a downvote. I didn't say whether I approved of this action or not. I looked through the threads to find out why the decision was made. I don't think a sincere effort to provide more information should be punished because of disagreement.
Subject experts can be hired, and I am assuming there are close contacts between DMV and the likes of NHTSA.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicl...
The proposed solution is transparency and accountability, but this seems to be a non starter with entrenched interests. We want body camera evidence, well body cameras are always conveniently off or the recording is missing. We want consequences for cops who abuse their authority, well they get fired and picked up in an adjacent county. It’s maddening.

That’s why “defund the police” got started: just build a new system that actually works to “protect and serve” where old entrenched interests have no power to block progress. The police can still have some role, but it will be diminished and vestigial.

To fix policing we need real transparency, and real accountability. I don’t think we want an opaque, unaccountable organization with a legal monopoly on violence roaming our streets, do you? So why are police so resistant to being held accountable, the way we all are in our roles in society? If any other organization were throwing grenades into cribs and tasering innocent people, there would be immediate and fundamental changes to bring that behavior to a grinding halt. But because it’s “the police” we tolerate this. Why?
Interpreters cost next to nothing.
Opposing view: GitHub's changing of `master` to `main` as the name of the default remote branch was not necessary and a huge waste of time for all parties involved.
Ok, I was reading that the alternative to current lobbying was to regulate the practice. How are you interpreting the "against lobbying" side of the argument?

Lobbying is about the right to petition the government; I don't see the direct line to socialism/communism, which is generally more concerned with the means of production. I don't think there is "clearly" a connection but rather one used to shoehorn a divisive and emotional topic.
You can't just throw more compute at an algorithm and have it spit better results! Well, unless your algorithm uses deep learning that is. And that's why teams with a lot of compute use DL, and why team that use DL use a lot of compute
Whenever I’m arguing about a position I’m expected to thoroughly define terms and provide citations. Yet, when I ask what a nebulous term entails the onus is on me to “educate” myself … as if what they’re saying is self-evident. It’s so underhanded.
The exact phrase "protected class" is particular to the US but the concept isn't particularly so. The UK has "protected characteristics," Canada has "protected grounds," as does the European Union in Article 14 of the Convention on Human Rights. Australia has "protected attributes."

Frankly it's pretty US-centric to imagine that a general human rights concept such as protected classes of people is US-centric.
Comparing HTML Preprocessor Features
Apparently this mailing list comment triggered this reaction:

http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/...
> Your experience doesn’t match mine and I’ve been in the software business for 40 years, both finding jobs and filling them.

OP could say the same. Their experience does not match yours, making your experience irrelevant to them, since they are facing a problem you did not face. 40 years ago, when you were entering this market, things were different. 30 years ago, different. 10 years ago, different. Last year, different.

It is not so hard to understand how someone entering the job market would face the issues described there, have some sympathy. That is all people expect from others.
If only DNS wasn't so slow.
Here's what I know so far... This breaks my websites SSL on Opera and Chrome on my late `09 Mac Mini, and Chrome on a new Raspberry Pi 4, and Safari on my old iPhone 5s.

Even the https://community.letsencrypt.org/ site is broke in those.

On all of those devices my sites work fine in Firefox. I have to think this is biting more folks than we know right now. I mean, I know my Apple stuff is old, but there's still a lot of old hardware out there.
Codified Software Best Practices have been around for decades.

Steve McConnell (Code Complete, Rapid Development, etc.)[0] used to be the Best Practices Editor for the IEEE.

It’s just as the author mentioned; no teeth. Companies are happy to pay for slapdash work (thus, undermining the drive to do good work), and employment tests often don’t really have much bearing on real-world engineering.

I’ve spent decades refining techniques and habits that I think work quite well. I occasionally write them down[1], which I find helpful in understanding them better.

[0] https://stevemcconnell.com/

[1] https://littlegreenviper.com/miscellany/
Companies that do this is annoying as I'll send them configuration changes they need to make in their system that contains URLs.

The text configuration gets exploded if inline.
Sorry guys, didn't expect that to happen.

@dang

it can be fixed by adding `word-break: break-all;`

to the `a` tag for .storylink class.
I think that's a reasonable perspective. As demonstrated by the incident here, the specific term "Code of Conduct" tends to attract people who don't like to be tolerant of opposing views and don't think it's appropriate to assume good faith. If you want to maintain those standards, which have traditionally been seen as necessary in online communities, it's probably best to use alternative terms which don't have that baggage.
It's just laying out exactly what you seem to agree with, and that good intentions aren't a shield for bad results. Someone might say "you look really sexy today" and intend it as a compliment, but even if it is a compliment it almost certainly isn't going to be received as one.
> That's common sense. We all know who are protected classes. For instance, members of board of directors of the big corporations are a protected class.

Uh… is this a troll? Like other commented said, this feels like a anti-CoC thing or an extreme case of Poe's law, at least.