skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Thanks to Detaro for pointing out that login status changes performance!

Leaving the comment below, but that's the answer.

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If I access HN from a web browser that blocks all known ad-related sites (including FB), HN is as fast as normal.

If I access HN through my "regular" browser, it's very slow. This looks like HN timing out trying to hit FB more than load making it slow.
We're all in this together (DNS outage)
> Even if this is the case, why does it matter?

Because people are using Deep-learning over single-lens cameras to replace depth-perception... and then wondering why the cars that do this run into stationary objects with flashing lights. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2021/INOA-PE21020-1893.PDF

No one really cares about where deep learning works. People are complaining about all the areas where deep learning is failing, with dramatic and deadly results.
Obviously not the OP, but figured I'll give my unsolicited opinion anyway.

I think there's "merit" to it, in that the logic holds: if we restrict the apps in an app store to be selected by a trusted entity then we can more likely trust the app. This computes, I think it's reasonable enough logic, but we could extend this further to something farcical too: I could make my phone "unhackable" and "more secure" by throwing it into a wood chipper. It would be impossible to hack, there's virtually no chance of my personal details leaking because of it, but of course I lose access to features of the phone (or in this case the entire phone itself). A corporation (or any large entity) will always be able to justify a restriction as a means of "increased security". Security vulnerabilities will almost always come from being able to actually use a computer as a computer.

This wouldn't inherently be a problem if it weren't for the fact that there are plenty of things things that are perfectly legal, but Apple won't approve, presumably out of fears of legal headaches, like video game console emulators.

My "solution" to approximate something decent would be to do something more or less akin to what macOS does. By default, don't allow any sideloading and only allow things to be installed via the App Store. If one would like to install something outside of the app store, they must (on a per-app basis) go into the security settings and allow things. This would still give preferential treatment to the App Store, but would allow people who know what they're doing to go around this.

NOTE:
I'm aware of the self-signing AltStore thing, and it's definitely a step in the right direction, if still a bigger pain in the ass than it should be.
I'm not and have never been an alcoholic. But I have have family members that are (or rather were, before they died from it) and often felt that it's something that I could easily slip into myself if I didn't make a conscious effort to avoid all non-social drinking. So alcoholism is something I have spent some time researching.

> Does anyone actually know anyone who drinks more than 2 drinks every day? The only people I knew like that were homeless

My uncle died a couple years ago. He was a functional alcoholic and workaholic for almost his whole life, until his age caught up with him and he couldn't work anymore. Then he just became an alcoholic. He was a multi-millionaire when he died, so he could have afforded the help if he wanted it and could have admitted to anyone (not least of all himself) that he had a problem.

Alcohol itself is not a problem. Alcohol ADDICTION is a very serious problem that does not get anywhere near the attention and seriousness that it should.

> Am I naive for thinking that everyone knows that Alcohol is not good for them?

Yes. And of those who know, many simply don't care and value the buzz more than the health downsides. Or feel helpless to stop due to the grip of addition. Or are so far gone that they secretly hope for an early death.

> You also can't ban alcohol.

I agree that a flat-out alcohol ban would be a failure. It was already tried and not only did it not work and caused all kinds of strife, it essentially gave rise to organized crime. If it was tried today, it would look identical to the War on Drugs which did nothing to help society, lined the pockets for various government organizations, contractors, and politicians, and filled prisons with non-violent offenders.

> I barely drink, but its undeniably important to our culture.

I'll agree that it is "important" in the sense that it is omnipresent in many people's daily lives. Even if I don't drink regularly, many friends, families, and neighbors do. People drink on the TV shows I watch. Co-workers make jokes about how many beers it takes to debug a particular program. People I know die directly or indirectly from it.

But is it a necessary part of any culture? Absolutely not. And just to be clear, I'm not arguing for a ban or any other method, but when I ask myself whether the world would be better off without mass alcohol consumption, the answer is an unequivocal yes.
Facebook products are down, hackernews is slow and reddit is slow! Mondays, amiright?
I would think that their internal network would correctly resolve facebook.com even though they've borked DNS for the external world, or if not they could immediately fix that. So at least they'd be able to talk to each other.
Technically or reasonably speaking?
Love the design! Those table borders really take me back
We do it for just about 100% of the time now. Only two exceptions: 1.) We have a second project we are ramping down on that only myself and 1 of my devs is trained on, so when we have to do anything with that he breaks off to do so. 2.) When bugs creep up that I can quickly solve, I'll do so as to allow my team to remain focused on our current system wide rewrite. Other then that, we do everything as a team.
Historically, I don't think there was much concern in the US over library records. Before library records were computerized it was often easy for anyone to find out who had checked out a given book and when.

A typical system might work like this. Inside each book there was a pocket attached to the back of the front cover, and in that pocket was a card.

When you checked out the book, your name and library card number and when the book was due were added to the card, below the entries for previous checkouts, and the card was filed somewhere. A card showing the due date was placed in the pocket and you could then leave with the book.

When you returned the book the checkout record card was put back in and the book re-shelved.

Want to know who has checked out a book before? Just walk into the library and look at the checkout card. No need for a warrant, and no need to even ask a librarian for the records.

Eventually the card would fill up and they'd have to start a new one. I don't know if they kept the old ones or not. Since storing them would take space, I'd guess they were probably thrown away (perhaps after recording some stats on how frequently the book was checked out, because those might be useful in the future when deciding on changes to their collection). If they were thrown away, I don't know if they would have taken care to destroy them or just toss them in the garbage.
Apparently the data was collected through scraping, so probably just a coincidence.
si es muy posible, de otro lado se daría la oportunidad a empresas mas cercanas con la gente y que les paguen por los usuarios por los datos.
That was the joke, yes.
Perfect Instagram is a skill you can deploy and unrelated to whether you are actually happy. Case in point: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2021/09/16/police-compare-notes/. There were multiple photogenic posts of smiling people in the weeks leading up to the murder, when they were fighting a lot of the time.
Possible more relevant hypothesis: Why Obsessively Following People Is Dangerous.
No, it doesn't. If it did we'd be seeing similar performance from other ARM CPU vendors, and we aren't. Apple pulling far ahead of Intel is largely independent of them using ARM and more a function of how much investment their poured into their own chips.
I'm having trouble understanding that adage. Would you please elaborate on it?
I think it's not too hard to define. On this forum, I know when I post a comment, it will appear where I expect it. You will see it if you look. There's no AI in the middle of us deciding whether my reply is worthy, or prioritizing extremism to optimize for engagement.

When you use email, you know what's going to happen. You can predict the behavior (yes, there are spam filters).

Facebook (and other social media) behave such that if we knew the entire sequence of user behavior, we wouldn't be able to predict what happens next. It's this sort of black box behavior that isn't good.

If you have an algorithm that is strictly optimizing to reduce inflammatory text, then I suppose that's ok. But still, it might be better to have user-moderation instead. I'd rather people just be banned by moderators.
This feels like an anecdote about software estimation.
value of fb directly proportional to traffic flow curious about why fb is down ;)
As a person neither leaning East nor West who is an avid HN reader it's always interesting to read the comments under such topics where the collusion between US private companies come up. Comparing it to the reactions when tenous connections between Chinese companies and the CCP are characterised as a threat to freedom and human rights.

It reminds me to be wary of my own biases. Because from where I stand they are all two sides of the same coin.
Yeah I've been using a pair of Audio-Technica that have both and I've enjoyed them a lot. I see no reason to upgrade.
That explain the new contacts in Telegram.
One American example quote that holds true for countries outside of America:

Direct quote: "That website on Facebook."

There are people who believe that "Facebook" literally equals "Internet". Facebook, Internet ... Internet, Facebook.

Rinse and repeat for your alternative echo chamber regarding Google, the Microsoft Bing, &c.
Running BGP in Facebook's Data Centers at Scale
I love how understated companies always are about things like this.

> Facebook said: "We are aware some people are having trouble accessing our apps and products. We are working to get things back to normal as quickly as possible and apologise for any inconvenience."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58793174
https://hn.hund.io - Status Page
Could Fossil Fuel Companies Ever Be Tried for Crimes Against Humanity?
Blindsight is the best SciFi book I've read, and one of my top 10 books of all time.

It's not for everyone though, I tried to get friends and family to read it, I don't think a single one got through it.

You pretty much need Wikipedia open to make sense of it and meditate on chapters. It's a challenging read.
I saw that name and I thought "that's a name from the Veneto".

The history of that university is pretty amazing. I can't recommend the tour enough, if people go through Padova. It's a nice change from all the churches, castles and villas that you see elsewhere in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Padua
Is Elon countering with the guy who made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs?
I think a lot of people just think facebook is bad for society. I do.
Yeah, sorry, I was trying to use the "measuring cup" for familiar reference purposes. The 10 ml of alcohol measure in the UK (with 1-2 units being the "safe" range) definitely seems a lot clearer and easier to approximate if your drink has an ABV % to me than the "standard drink which is all over the place:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_drink

"For example, in the United States, a standard drink contains about 14 grams of alcohol."
"Different countries define standard drinks differently. For example, in Australia, a standard drink contains 10 grams of alcohol,[4] but in Japan, one "unit" contains approximately 20 grams."
It's very slow on the US East Coast. Most requests time out at least once and then succeed after a retry.
This sounds like something that might have been done with security in mind. Although generally speaking, remote hands don't have to be elite hackors.
I get that these Apple chips are fast but has anyone spent anytime comparing how fast the Operating System is to other OS?

macOS/iOS vs Windows or Linux.

Usain Bolt is the fastest person on earth. But if he’s wearing 5 kilogram shoes, he’s not going to be any faster than a normal person.
a) it was one of multiple examples
b) do you personally run a business this way and, if so, how's that working out relative to the competition? My point was simply that all businesses have some parties they trust on the theory that they'll sue if a contractual agreement is broken. It's too expensive not to trust someone when you have no reasonable basis for expecting an attack and a solid legal basis for compensation if they did: if you dislike Microsoft, substitute Apple or Samsung, your bank, etc.
>Also, that has absolutely nothing to do with banning third party payment processors for IAPs. That is just criminal, or well, it should be.

I find this sentiment interesting vs the juxtaposition that Netflix wanted off of IAP because Apple makes it too easy to cancel your subscription.

I've always viewed the current tension over the App Store not to be Apple vs. Users, but Apple vs. Scumbag Developers
I work 80% for free (for myself), 20% for money (consulting, freelancing).

Free it's like a sabbatical. Whenever I need to learn a new technology I take a sabbatical, build a framework, then go back to produce income with that framework.

For example in September last year I took a sabbatical for learning Design Systems. My first paying customer came this August. This streak took a year, and I'm at the third iteration only.

When on sabbatical, I'm changing locations / cities / countries to be able to support myself during that period. When in production mode, I'm again moving to larger / more expensive places.
I am surprised you have Netflix on the list. It would be annoying for 2 minutes, then you can simply go for a walk or read a book.
need a status.status.fb.com to indicate the status of the status

and / or an S3 bucket with a json blob the apps can pull to at least tell users 'here's what's up'
Trashing: The Dark Side of Sisterhood (1976)
I'm more of a 'shit on Facebook' man myself but I'm not above hate.

I find it hard to find fault with people expressing disgust with how knowingly predatory and exploitative the company's leadership have proven themselves to be.

Exhibit A: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58678332
At least with WhatsApp you do have the contact's phone number, so you can reach them via SMS if necessary.
"Discussed in Hacker News, the user that goes by the 'huevosabio' handle, stated as a fact that..."
> If you like Blindsight,

Not sure that I like Blindsight even though I think it a great book. The same goes for some of his other books; deeply unsettling
It's painfully slow for me on the west coast of the US
I don’t understand what you mean. Are you saying that the word “women” is widely considered offensive now? And that the ACLU’s mangling of the quote of a SC justice and defender of women’s rights by replacing her use of this now-unacceptable word “women” is, by some wild stretch of the imagination, not itself indecent?
It's not, though.

https://www.techinsights.com/blog/systems-analysis-apple-lig...
Cool product. Remote policy?
Twitter User @TD said:

> Someone likely made a configuration error which caused them to stop advertising their IP space.

Is that likely to be the case? Is that referring to FB, so someone on the FB side made the error?
> "Idk man, this seems like a tough issue. Maybe we should just give up"

> "Ok." - Zuckerburg

shuts down $100B company
Netflix Boosts Streaming While Reducing Socket Counts
Yes, all of that (imo) is an argument in favor.

I never said it was free, but it's worth it as long as it's cheaper than failure.

I don't keep backups because I enjoy having multiple copies of my data. I do it because losing that data would be devastating.
That said, it will be interesting to read their post-mortem next year and compare it with what ramenporn wrote.
Context: Facebook's global outage today stems from a bad global BGP update that cut connectivity to every datacenter. This paper documents the automation underlying it and makes the potentials for a global outage from a buggy config push more obvious.
Yep. I am the developer of HN client HACK for iOS and Android and a bunch of users emailed me asking if my app was broken. Looks like something bigger is afoot.
Interesting. Either way I only have to tap the stalk down.
You like commuting in your car in rush hour? Drive your car for fun on the weekend. Walk to meet friends at a cafe.
New energy density record for a LFP battery
Matrix P2P already exists.
Well assuming they do that, likely they will host websites on AWS or Azure. Then AWS is down, what are you gonna do?
We don't have that issue really. We do remote mob programming (all day long zoom call + https://mob.sh/ ) so we see everyone while we work.

The issue we do have is that sometimes myself and my other senior dev end up Navigating too much, leaving our more junior developers to not contribute as much. When I catch ourselves doing that I'll just ask the other sr dev to step back for a little bit and allow the others to step up.
I'd add operator overloading and static method dispatch at least. For mathematical types it is much better to write `M * v` rather than `M.VecMultiply(v)` for clarity.

I gather that Go people freak out over syntactic sugar like `cout << "foo\n'` but they've thrown away the ability to better express mathematical notation.

And the language itself cheats and internally can do that and has the kind of almost useless complex type, but you can't extend it to add vectors, quaternions and octonians that use algebraic operators.

You don't need this for writing a grpc web service, but if you start doing ML or game programming this becomes important, and I think there's one of those koan quotes out there about how the code you write should strive for clarity, and I'd argue that function calls are less clear, and the reason why we write `1 + 2` instead of `1.AddInt(2)`.
I don't think so. I bet nobody is ever going to make that mistake at FB again after today.
Minimum wage is closer, environmental standards are somewhat similar, and laws can be passed on a federal level. It is just as easy for workers to change states as businesses while internationally it is easier for businesses to change locations than workers.
I've never tried it, but I heard a lot of folks take GHB as an alternative to alcohol, and that it has the same effects, but without the hangover. I also heard you have to be really careful with dosing, as you only need a very small amount of the stuff.
You can always use other software as well. The only reason HN believe Apple to be a monopoly is because the product they purchased does what it was advertised to do - security through chain of trust via an good-but-imperfect organization. It's only a legal monopoly if the courts say so, and the judge in Epic v Apple defined the market in a way that actually made sense - they aren't a monopoly on mobile game purchases, but they did took anticompetitive actions in that market to stifle competition.

> I'd argue where there isn't a thriving marketplace of choice monopolies should have to have the same rules with all their partners.

They can't have a monopoly on iPhones because the iPhone isn't a market - it's a device where the App Store is the killer feature. There are other products you can buy that compete with the iPhone and its app store.
https://archive.is/itnJD also works
It's people, in the grips of what I would call an evil optimization algorithm. If we stopped using labels and focuses on root causes we might just be able to find equitable solutions to the problem of social media algo-driven radicalization. Conservatives and liberals coexist just fine --and have done so for decades-- in the real world. The problem happens when algorithms shove people into deeper and darker caves where radicalization is almost inevitable.
If they planned ahead, they should have had their oncalls practice on the backup systems (like Signal/Slack/Zoom) before now.
It's slow for me from FireFox with uBO. When has the HN site ever hit an FB url? I don't see any references to any FB related urls in source, uBO, or dev tools.
I think you may need a refresher on their history - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus_(brand)#History

When FB announced they would be buying Oculus, they promised that no social media integration would be required. FB breaking that promise is not the same as Oculus having that requirement from the get-go.

What original hatred are you talking about??
Also slow for me also.
Fake news. Public data scrapped of a Facebook profile is not "personal information" if everyone can already see it
My time on Facebook made it abundantly clear how racist, misogynist and otherwise vile a large portion of the people I grew up with are. I was much happier having a superficial contact with them once every ten years at a high school reunion. I'm no longer on Facebook (or Twitter).

Occasionally, I'll see/hear/do something and think that it would have made a good status update/tweet, but then I remember that these things have happened to me for decade before social media was a thing and life was fine. Some I'll share with my wife or a friend, most just disappear and that's fine too.
Here we can see why you should not have all your DNS servers in the same AS (in this case, AS32934).
I dunno. If AWS went away suddenly, or if Google Search/the G-Suite suddenly stopped existing, the internet as we know it would need some time to recover.
> (Please don't rehash the video game console argument.)

Why not?
For those unfamiliar with IAP as a term of art:
IAP = In App Purchases
i talk to my parents in India everyday in india. Watsapp is the only game in town there.
tbf given that it's Shatner you could morbidly enough spin it as a "Captain Kirk at last goes home, cultural sci-fi icon dies in space" thing, I have no doubt they would be rolling with that angle
Facebook is implicated in genocide in multiple countries, and Instagram is nothing but a psychotic lie factory designed to induce depression and self loathing in young women.

The world would only improve if it disappeared.
Harbormoor
The World's Digital Harbor
Gatsby and Contentful and Medusa: A free headless ecommerce stack
To the communication angle, I've worked at two different BigCo's in my career, and both times there was a fallback system of last resort to use when our primary systems were unavailable.
I'm not an IT Operations guy, but as a dev I always thought it was exciting when the IT guys had in their shoulders the destiny of the firm. I must be exciting.
A bottle of wine contains about 6 servings, so if you buy $6 wine, that's around a dollar a serving, $60/month is not cost prohibitive for many people.

My local beverage store has lots of wine choices < $5, many have pretty good reviews (4+ stars out of 5)

Though if you're looking for the best bang for the buck, they have a 1.75l vodka for $8.99 - at 40 servings per bottle, that's about 50 cents a day for 2 servings a day.
Looking at outcomes and risks it seems pretty clear that we should do both. If we invest into renewables + battery storage and nuclear, and the outcome is that battery solution becomes economical viable, at worst we just spent a bit more money that we had too. If the battery solution do not become economical viable, at worst we will just have a bunch of cheap intermittent power that specific industries can use when the weather is optimal.

Put in a date when no more fossil fuel plants are allowed to be built and let the existing ones be decommissioned once they grow too old. With that as a starting point everything else will just have to be planned according to demand.
In writing would only be the operative term if the discussions concluded things were a conflict of interest. They're not required to provide non-issues in writing.
Having trouble doing calls on Telegram now - I guess because of the shift in load to Telegram