I decided to answer just to 1.x points because the rest is already off the rails and I consider discussing those points further to lead nowhere.

I will first reiterate my points to encapsulate them in an even more concise form and then address your response:

1.1 BS is Regional Deliver Operations. His opinion about vaccination is irrelevant.

1.2 Although BS's opinion is irrelevant, your point is not supported by what he says. He is sceptical that kids need them, not that they are safe and effective.

1.3 JD says kids should get vaccinated. This contradicts the narative of the article. Why kids should get vaccinated is offtopic.

1.4 JD did't get J&J because he got Moderna. JD does NOT recommend staying unvaccinated instead of getting J&J. JD actually recommends people to get Moderna instead of J&J. The video is edited to make it appear that he is against vaccines in general.

1.5 is just summarizing 1.1 - 1.4

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As for your response:

> Some of these are Technical employees

FTFY: 1 of 2 is

> some of them Managers

FTFY: also 1 of 2, maybe a manager but irrelevant due to department

> familiar with the internal company processes.

maybe, but most probably irrelevant due to department. Also irrelevant because the debate is about the safety and efficacy of the J&J vaccine, not about the crimes of J&J the company.

> Some you decided to disclaim their opinion as personal opinion.

FTFY: 1 namely BS. Due to being in an irrelevant department.

> Others because they are not high enough in the hierarchy of the company.

Bullshit. I did not disclaim JD's answers. I said they do not support your point.

> That is an acceptable attitude.

Offtopic

> However ignores the reasons why they fundamentally would be making those statements.

Are you claiming they made declarations under duress?

> These claims are just data points

They do not support your point. One out of two is irrelevant the other actually says kids should get vaccinated

> , but its bit like saying: A Volkswagen sales person or Company car mechanic says their cars are crap.

Your analogy is not even an analogy. The correct analogy is: one is the delivery man and the mechanic says Porsche is better.

> I am going to ignore those data points because what do they know about car engineering...

I ignored the delivery man

> I will listen instead to the Chief Company Engineer...

Bullshit. I did no such thing. You are strawmanning me.

> Maybe, its because

Why they answerd the interview is irrelevant. You seem to think they are the Snowden of J&J. They are not.

> they are not that high in the hierarchy, that they allowed themselves to make those statements.

Bullshit. I never once mentioned hierarchy.

> Your argument seems to be that they dont know what they are talking about.

Bullshit. my argument is that regardless of knowledge, the oppinion of the delivery man is irrelevant. It was an interview with his oppinion. BS did not reveal anything, he just gave his oppinion and speculated. He is not a whisleblower. He is irellevant.

And JD says kids should get vaccinated. The reason is offtopic

> You ignore the fact,that one of them is clearly stating not to take their vaccine.

Yes, because BS is in a irrelevant department.

> And you are the one misstating facts.

Which one? The one bellow? I am not, he litteraly said: "Once you go out and you've got to go to preschool, ....., that's when you need to vaccinate"

> JD says the older kids should only taking as their "civic duty", does not say the vaccine is really required.( for kids)

Irelevant. I will not try to explain to you why that is important because it is offtopic and we do not start from the same base assumptions.

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Also, with regards to 1.7, I made no veiled threats. You claiming I did is a nasty accusation and it is bullshit I will not accept. But 1.7 is actually offtopic from 1.x