skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Why do people fear long-term effects of the vaccine (which seem very unlikely in light of past vaccine history) but dismiss equally unknown long-term effects of covid?

I think for three reasons:

1. Long COVID isn't a definable disease. That whole ground has been badly polluted by people claiming to have "long COVID" when they haven't ever even tested positive for short COVID, there being no symptoms in common with all reports, etc. It's very hard to say what the long terms effects of COVID really are even though there are now nearly two years of experience with it, for this reason.

2. Long term effects from vaccines have happened before, e.g. early ones gave people polio, more recently there was the Pandemrix / narcolepsy affair. Drugs of any kind are put through difficult safety trials because of a long history of accidents. They are artificial chemicals designed to manipulate the bodies most powerful internal mechanisms after all, no reason why it's impossible to have long term effects.

3. The side effects of COVID vaccines are drastically worse than any normal vaccine. They routinely make people very sick, but it doesn't get treated by scientists as a possible sign of bad things happening because these are "normal" and "expected". Some side effects weren't detected by the trials, like myocarditis, and others weren't detected despite being apparently very common, like stopped periods. Not detected because all the women were on birth control. In fact information on side effects of any kind is extremely poor - you get self reported documentation at best, as there are no major large scale surveys - and the establishment is quite obviously terrified of any attempt to find out more. The trials themselves ignored all events that happened 7 days after vaccination, which doesn't seem very long. That attitude is endemic.

In a situation where all discussion of side effects is heavily penalized or outright erased (e.g. Nicki Minaj losing her Twitter account), it's inevitable that people will conclude something is being frantically swept under the carpet.

Finally, consider something important: the ambient underlying assumption behind the vaccination programme is that everyone will get COVID at some point and it will be the same for everyone regardless of when they get it. In reality it's now been nearly two years and most people either haven't got it yet, even when heavily exposed because they were self-isolating with sick people (I am in this category), or alternatively, got it in such a way that it was so mild they didn't notice at all. If you assume the modellers are wrong again, and that a 100% chance of infection is not in fact correct, or alternatively that by the time you do get it it's mutated to a form that's no worse than a cold, then the tradeoff around vaccines looks quite different even for middle aged people. After all, zero spike proteins is better than some regardless of how you get them.
Slightly related question: is there a plug-in that can color my code based in scope instead of syntax?
Anti-vaxxers spread lies that are causing a lot of unneeded death and suffering.
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Yes, you're right people are too dumb, they're don't have a good judging ability. We should select the right info for them.
A little bit of how to lie with statistics there, but yes for certain Tesla models in certain continents using certain rare ultrafast versions of CCS2 with a certain state of charge, there is a certain window of time where the speed may slightly exceed certain Tesla superchargers (the current fastest version, admittedly, but faster ones are coming).

I'd gladly use any charger, if it's what is available, but do prefer Superchargers for their faster speed (although yes, there is that edge case you pointed to) and for the community of friendly fellow Tesla owners that you sometimes run into there.
Well, you know what they say: fail fast, fail often.
I don't think regulators are powerless to deal with that tactic.

If that tactic was adopted by tobacco companies to market cigarettes to children, would regulators just collectively shrug their shoulders?
> I think YouTube is wrong here.

When your child gets polio because some soccer mom spent too much time listening to crackpots online and decided not to vaccinate their children, that's when you realise they were correct. And perhaps society as a whole did not nearly go far enough.
Scientists see a block of wood, and observe that it has fixed dimensions, is made from a dead tree, and weighs a certain amount.

Politicians see a block of wood and ask, how do we use that wood? Do we build a house, make a fence, or carve it into an ax handle.

So, it's really apples and oranges. Scientists use the scientific method to determine the truth. Politicians are not seeking the truth, but are using consensus to govern the actions of their constituents. The consensus can be based on science and truth, or on irrationalities such as fear and hope.
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Most vaccines do fully stop the spread, even for measles, which is one of the most transmissible viruses known. So it's a reasonable standard.
Your wife is very irrational then.
They're pretty cheap second hand. I recently got one for €200, including base stations (forward-compatible to a point) and "pro" audio strap. It's my first VR headset though, I understand not wanting to spend too much on something you already have a better version of.

Also, the Valve Index is pretty much last (tethered) gen.
My post don't offer a solution as I haven't really found one unfortunately.

I don't believe in censorship either but we need to find a way to disincentivise behaviors that lower trust.
It will be interesting to see how things end up. Until recently the economy has been based on productivity increasing and things getting cheaper. Productivity can't increase forever and there are signs that in a lot of sectors productivity increases are stalled, part of the attraction of offshoring manufacturing. But eventually that strategy fails as well since you can only offshore for so long before those countries develop to a point at which their exports are no longer competitive.

But maybe there is still a lot of room left for productivity increases with advances in robotics, etc. We're not seeing that now, since it seems like most of the growth comes from services and digital stuff, but maybe it's still a little too early.
I've never seen a Varjo headset in person, so I can't say anything about it other than it's extremely expensive, both to buy and to operate (you have to agree to a yearly service contract).

But everyone should avoid PiMax like the plague. Their hardware is super buggy with lots of weird lens distortions and colored static in the displays. Their drivers are weirdly front and present like a HP does with their printer drivers, making me wonder just what they hell they think they are doing (and also, very buggy as well). Whatever resolution advantage they claim is wasted on bad image compression and extremely bad optics.

But the worst part of all is that the business side is really scammy. They'll gladly taking your money and sending you a shipping notification long before they ever have an actual headset they can send you. I get that manufacturing delays are a thing, but for PiMax they've always been a thing, long before the global pandemic and chip shortage. Don't tell me I'm going to get a headset "any day now, it's in the mail" for 3 months straight, only to finally get your act in gear when I threaten to reverse the credit card charge.

Of all the people I've talked to who have eventually gotten their PiMax headset, only one says he likes it, but he's also super DPRC-nationalistic and has accused people of racism anytime they talk bad about PiMax.
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That’s interesting - do you have some examples? I’ve seen quite a few similar memes, including some which explicitly support the scientific method, by contrasting it with what they claim to be politically motivated cherry-picking, “scientism”, etc.
Isn't COVID testing being done at scale in many countries right now? I'm in Canada and I can go to a free drive through test station without appointment and get about a 24-hour turnaround on results, and that's been the case for over a year.
I definitely do not.
Exactly. They are on the side of making money and do not care about taking anyone's videos down.
It's facebook for me.
It's high time facebook, YouTube and Google get broken up like the Bell Corporation was (maybe even avoid some mistakes that were made with that company).

Regarding 3.:
I think it will radicalize some but it will also stop the misinformation of many more people. Overall I think it will lead to lives saved.
Or use a case that functions as a Faraday cage.
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The current approach is to ban dissent for sanctioned topics (lab leak, hunter's laptop, vaccinations, etc.) and I agree that it's not working, because you get an echo chamber and force critics into the darkness whether they are right or wrong.

The right approach is always more information. People can think for themselves, $5000 of Russian ads didn't do anything more or have any more lies a D or R campaign ad did, so stop pretending it did.

If you want to ban foreign actors, that's fine. Targeting citizens with legit concerns and ideas is wrong and violates their rights, even if you launder your tyranny through private companies.
A little off topic, but I wish we could stop using this nice-sounding "hesitant" euphemism. Hesitant implies that people are weighing options and open to changing their minds. With the amount of time they have been available and the overabundance of evidence that the COVID vaccines are safe, effective, and that they decrease hospitalizations and death, I find it very hard to believe that anyone is still "on the fence" about it.

> She thinks they’re taking it down because they don’t want people to know the truth.

And there it is--this doesn't sound like a person who is weighing their options in good faith. It sounds like someone who is already convinced of what the truth is. Let's stop calling them "hesitant".
The problem comes when preference has been based on something that becomes shown objectively false.

People are so attached to their preference that they dismiss facts and attack the whole concept of knowledge to maintain that preference.
This is the SV “fake it ‘till you make it” culture. Right now Tesla is delivering “full self driving” cars that require a human driver at all times. Experts have said that it’s not possible using cameras alone, without LiDAR.

Oversell and underdeliver. Fraud works great until it doesn’t.
Better information is not more persuasive.
14.8 won't be findable after power off, it's an iOS 15 feature. When "turned off" it can maintain an occasional bluetooth beacon like AirTags which other iPhones pick up.
Now, NASA wants all the litigation to stop as soon as possible so the gears of its lunar lander program can start turning. The agency agreed last month to pause SpaceX’s contract while the lawsuit carries on only if Blue Origin agreed to a quicker litigation schedule that wraps up November 1st. Blue Origin, NASA, and SpaceX are currently duking it out before the court, most recently arguing over Blue Origin’s request to add more documents and internal NASA emails into the court’s record for review. The company also wants the judge to approve the release of a less-redacted version of its complaint, but NASA and SpaceX are pushing back.

If the court ultimately agrees with Blue Origin and finds NASA messed up, the agency would likely have to cancel SpaceX’s contract, as Blue Origin requests, and reopen the competition to allow the companies to submit new proposals — a significant setback for the agency’s Moon program. If Blue Origin loses, the monthslong hold on SpaceX’s contract would disappear, allowing work with NASA on Starship to begin, and Blue Origin would be invited to pitch its lander for a future Moon lander competition. But the delay itself already poses risks for NASA. In one of its filings to the GAO, NASA attorneys laid out their fears:

“What begins as a mere procurement delay all too easily turns into a lack of political support, a budget siphoned off for other efforts, and ultimately, a shelved mission.”
It's not really impossible if you operate on first principle.

Now, it might be harder to distinguish someone who can do it well and who'll do it poorly, but that's another issue.
This is the sort of pseudo-tech BS that she fed everyone. She had Jobs envy and thought his approach would work everywhere.

All those examples (and all of yours) are from computers. Blood tests are different from computers. You cannot assume that, just because great things happened with computers, the same things can happen in all walks of life.
I also see stuff on the left calling objectivity a tool of "white supremacy." So yeah, very dangerous. The problem with science is that it shows the truth that both sides wish wasn't there.
> first, youtube isnt where open discussion by moderate voices happens. Its a cavalcade of endlessly random videos promoting everything from free energy to colloidal silver cures and get rich quick schemes.

Youtube also has people doing educational videos. I can watch recorded lectures there, if I want. Why do we need a gatekeeper for that?

It also has videos of people just sharing their experiences.
Should that be banned to, if those are negative about the vaccine? On what basis?
"This is true" obviously needs to come from someone trustworthy or it is irrelevant.

This is why I categorically ignore everything from Dr Fauci. He's known to have lied to the public before to influence behavior. Since I'd have verify his claims from some other source anyway, there's no sense using him as a source at all.
Have you considered that the number of vaccine hesitant people has increased specifically as a result of the ever-increasing suppression of dissent? To me it seems like that's exactly what's happening.

The US should have handled this exactly like a sane country:
- No lockdowns. You determine your individual risk level. Businesses are free to require masks if they want to. (I really would only be okay with a compelled wfh order, if possible.) The gov owes a lot of people a lot of money for compelling them not to work. The gov wouldn't owe money if consumers just stopped shopping places because they didn't feel comfortable not wearing a mask in a business that didn't require them.
- Vaccines rollout is: take it if you want. We recommend it. It appears to be safe. Here is the data. If you don't want it, fine, but we are business as usual so you're accepting a higher risk.
libgen (discussed recently, as they added an ipfs frontend) has a version of the 1st edition (16bit) in a single PDF that isn't horribly formatted, if anyone cares.
Age old follow-up question. Who decides what anti-vaccine content is? Who is going to draw the fine line? How simple (i.e. black and white) is to make this distinction? Do you trust that person / entity making these decisions for you and your peers?

But even without defending free speach, looks to me that when you start censoring you just create multiple new problems with zero solution. So even from a design point of view it's clearly a bad thing.
They are doing far, far less damage than heavy trucks, such as semi tractor-trailers or even box trucks with significant weight inside.

Even so, the goal here is to spend the resources to permit movement of goods and people... not to limit traffic to those vehicle types that do the least damage to the road. The road is there to be used, not admired.

If you really want 0 damage, work toward legalizing hovercraft on national highways.
She thinks they’re taking it down because they don’t want people to know the truth.

To some degree, that’s true. While the vaccines are overall relatively highly effective and safe, there is no denying that tens of thousands of serious injuries and deaths have occurred as a result of them. Overall the benefits strongly outweigh the risks, but there are risks nonetheless. This is not abnormal for anything that is injected into hundreds of millions of people.

However, platforms like YouTube - cheered on by the CDC and an incredibly heavy handed Biden administration - have decided that people don’t have a right to learn about these cases of “adverse reactions”. As well intentioned as they may be, hiding obvious facts from people calls into question everything else that they are being told. It only emboldens the vaccine hesitant when the powers that be are less than honest and forthcoming about the potential negative outcomes of the vaccine, regardless of how rare they might be.
Employees, Scientists and Managers of Vaccine producers, when recorded with hidden cameras, also seem to be vaccine remorseful...

"Johnson & Johnson: Children Don’t Need the ‘F*cking’ COVID Vaccine Because There Are ‘Unknown Repercussions Down the Road’ …"

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/johnson-and-johnson-chil...
The link below was submitted to Hacker News a few months ago. It has good tips for landing pages:

"I've rewritten 300+ websites for startups from pre-seed to unicorn. Here are my top learnings"

https://twitter.com/maiale/status/1419687196311752704

A follow-up twitter thread from the same author:

"..there's a template I recommend to almost every startup. Here it is"

https://twitter.com/maiale/status/1420413778592628741

The related Hacker News thread - only 6 comments:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27988065
I like Ruby and I'd write a lot more Ruby if I bothered to learn Sorbet. There still isn't a language that scratches that itch of productive web development with minimal boilerplate. I've mostly started to feel uncomfortable with dynamically typed languages with lots of mutability.
yup, especially with so many warnings against using the original malloc, its an interesting choice
> I have yet to speak with a single anti vaxxer who did research and not “research” on the subject (that is did clinical trials or even is able to read an abstract of one).

How about the pioneer of mRNA vaccines? [1] [2]

[1]: https://thehighwire.com/videos/mrna-vaccine-inventor-calls-f...

[2]: https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173...
The street prices of Marijuana are still better than retail prices. To completely dominate this market, the price per gram of high THC content marijuana needs to go under $10. The walmart of weed is going to trample anybody who can’t compete with that, and right now that’s everybody.
Why would YouTube recommend videos from people you're subscribed to? You already have a reliable feed of those videos on the subscriptions feed. They are trying to get you to subscribe to other channels to increase your watch time.
I'm against censorship. But I'm also against algorithmic promotion of dubious information.

As an example, several people I know personally told me they saw videos of black lives matter activists and antifa starting fires here in Oregon. It's ridiculous. But, there is enough evidence to show that those videos were created and promoted in the right way such that YouTube and Facebook put them into their viral loops and lots of succeptible people thought they were the truth.

How do we strike a balance between letting information be free and at the same time prevent black box algorithms and evil actors from hacking our society?
You need all three rhetorical modes in your lab too. Trust me!
It's so badly needed. For some US-centric perspective: "the almost 750,000 people who live with kidney failure are 1% of the U.S. Medicare population but account for roughly 7% of the Medicare budget." [0] This is obviously just one part of the issue; I don't need to describe how attritional and life-altering chronic kidney disease and, subsequently, hemo-/peritoneal-dialysis are.

[0] https://pharm.ucsf.edu/kidney/need/statistics#:~:text=Costs,....
"I can’t help but think a good proportion of Google/YouTube employees truly believe they are saving lives and fighting “misinformation” with this move."

That is because they ARE doing exactly that.
I've seen videos where drivers peacefully waiting at red lights were crushed by careening tractor trailers in freak accidents. Waiting at the red light literally got them killed. By your standards, we shouldn't force people to obey traffic signals since it"s proven that doing so can in rare cases lead to death.
> If the science is so clear, why not give an anti vaxxer a huge prime time platform and embarrass them in debate?

Neonazis clamor that they need a platform all the time. Now that we can see what that's like (the US, in case it is not clear) we can see that this is a terrible idea.
> I'm not going to do a team-by-team breakdown of teams that pay for themselves many times over because there are so many of them, even if I limit the scope to "teams that people are surprised that Twitter has".

I assume Dan means that "teams that pay for themselves" are teams where the total cost of employing the team is <= the decrease in company expenditure that can reasonably be attributed to the team.

If that is the case, two things come to mind:

1. What is the likelihood that that company expenditure would have decreased without the team? (over time bugs/improvements are fixed/implemented by other employees or outside parties (open source))

2. If instead of spending money on the team that decreased expenditure, the company had spent money on a team that increased revenue, what would the relative difference be for profits?

This may be complex because the cost to process a byte of information using the same process almost always gets cheaper over time (am I wrong?).
The Chinese are generally quite secretive about everything unless it's been in full-scale production for a while.

They probably think that their manoeuvrable ballistic missiles are already enough of a deterrent, being hypersonic already, and those are actually deployed and ready for combat, so much more of a deterrent.
> How do you have a rational discussion like that?

You may never, but by deplatforming them, you're only feed the conspiracies.
I spoke w/ a YC founder who distilled it down into 3 simple words: Pain, Claim, Proof

- What pain are you solving for?
- What's your solution to this pain?
- What's the proof that your solution works?
Neither were promotions. It was suggested by substance that I post my newsletter articles to this site and I am entirely new and not completely sure of the rules. I do book reviews for a living. Sometimes I post them on my newsletter. The newsletter is mostly for my fanfiction readers to not miss a chapter and receive it directly into their emails. I don't promote anything intentionally, but it is hard to talk about things without naturally mentioning certain things. I am still learning this site.
Ethos is very hard, but pathos is harder, especially in secular society.

Let me be clear, I think arguments about ethos generate the most argumentation and heat right now, but the silent killer is really pathos. People feel comfortable arguing ethos. Most people will not argue pathos openly though.

We have a crisis of pathos in our culture. How do you claim that something is important without an appeal to authority? You can't. We live in a culture that is fragmenting its sources of authority; different groups of people have different sources of authority.

Here's a good example. The external dialogue that a lot of conservatives give on climate change is that scientists can't be trusted. The internal dialogue that a lot of them (though not all) engage in goes something like, "The earth doesn't matter. God is going to come back and set things right. So we don't need to worry about it anyway."
At least the software never deliberately works against the user, and never is defective by design.