skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>So what was this whole war, its death toll its costs good for?

It's a message.

For the next several hundred years every warlord and extremist groups that's about to consolidate power over a nation is going to point at the Taliban and say "we want to run this nation, we don't want our sons to be running it" when kicking out particularly odious house guests who have dreams of attacking the 1st world.

Was it worth it? IDK, doubt it. But that's what we bought at the end of the day. We bought a precedent.
Is all material digital at this point? It reminds me of the “Argo” movie(that is supposed to be quite accurate) where the Iranians manage to reconstruct shredded documents that expose the identities of the persons of interest.

They also destroyed a device for encrypted communications. That part must be the easy part these days.

In a morbid way, I enjoyed these photos of “savages” capturing advanced military equipment: https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1426101381363027969...

It reminds me of Civ series where you could destroy advanced armies with large enough primitive ones. I used to dismiss it as unrealistic but apparently it wasn’t that unrealistic.
What are you talking about (serious)? Dissent is legal and will not result in imprisonment in the US.

I don't even subscribe to Facebook or Twitter by choice. I definitely wouldn't subscribe to imprisonment by choice, haha. If you're concerned about these platforms controlling their content privately, don't use them.
Maybe I'm alone in this assessment but, this reads like it was written by the economics teacher on Ferris Bueller's Day Off. I can't decide if it is on-target brilliant or completely off the mark.
When a new Firefox release breaks a website, the browser is broken.

When a new Chrome or Safari release breaks a website, the website is broken.

I hate myself for typing that out, but it's true. Chrome has the luxury of dictating terms to sites that IE used to have 10 years ago. Firefox has never had such a dominant position, so they need to shoulder some of the burden themselves to ensure remaining users aren't forced to switch.
I wasn’t commenting on the why. I’m just saying that all the words in the phrase “Apple regrets confusion” are probably true: There is a lot of confusion, and Apple’s PR is probably really regretting it right now.

If people understood what was going on, would they be as upset? I don’t know. Apple doesn’t seem to think so.
I can't speak for api's intentions but I think the point is that scientists are people too. The perception of scientists themselves as being politically bent in one direction is definitely not unfathomable. This is especially so in a culture (or sub-culture) of politicians/news that may portray them that way for political gain.

At the end of the day, we all have to decide what information sources we will put money behind. None of them are always correct. Science does have an upper hand when done right... but that's a large caveat that even seasoned scientists may not always discern properly. Also, there is a lot of bad science "out there" sometimes funded by competing interests.

None of this is to say that I doubt climate change but certainly I don't buy wholesale into emerging ideas until they have been sussed out a bit. In 1995, the language was still:

> Any human-induced effect on climate will be superimposed on the background "noise" of natural climate variability, which results both from internal fluctuations and from external causes such as solar variability or volcanic eruptions. Detection and attribution studies attempt to distinguish between anthropogenic and natural influences. [1]

Which could be (and was, when politically beneficial) read to mean "we don't have a clear picture."

[1] https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ipcc_sar_wg_...
Obviously such an attack has nothing to do with the false positive rate.

But, setting that aside, can you explain how a first order evasion attack can be used against Apple’s mechanism?

They are a real kind of attack in the lab, but it’s not obvious how they could be used to exploit Apple’s CSAM detection.

If you have reason to think they are a real threat, I’m sure you can explain.
If you decide to become a digital nomad for a year and just hope your employer doesn't find out, you'll probably be sorry when they do. Have a working vacation somewhere for a month? Try to work it out with your manager. I effectively do it all the time around conferences.

But actually move? Lots of implications for visas, salary adjustments, and whether your company even has employees in a given country.
Actually, OSM was launched before Google Maps, in August 2004, while Google Maps were launched only in February 2005, six months later.
Maybe so, but as a US taxpayer, I object to any plan or program that buys so little happiness for so many US tax dollars.
I had a new boss a few years ago who would tell me about these outrageous things he wanted in Excel - like full blown applications. And he’d want them in a week. I tried doing the vba code, and got it partially built and he was pretty disappointed. Then asked me if I was using Excel 3 or Excel 4 and I knew exactly how clueless he was about Excel and how it was used…
This is going to be Saigon all over again. The pictures coming out of this will be remarkable. That being said, my thoughts go out to the Afghanis who helped us for decades as interpreters and other support roles. Both parties are failing those brave men and women in not expediting approval for them to come to the US, as their lives will assuredly be in danger if they stay in Afghanistan.
You still need a dev. Probably two more.
That project sounds really awesome actually - have any links or write ups on it?

Agreed with the cables. I’m keeping my eye out for some sort of minimal, flat ribbon cable that I could possibly have flush against the side of the casing.
Apologies, I misunderstood your point.
Because it's really annoying getting reflexively downvoted by idealogues or zealots who have nothing else to say.
Please quote what you think supports your claim.

"Indeed, Neural-Hash knows nothing at all about CSAM images. It is an algorithm designed to answer whether one image is really the same image as another, even if some image-altering transformations have been applied (like transcoding, resizing, and cropping)."[1]

[1] https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/Security_Threat_Model...
Heck Apple themselves said they would be happy to explore expanding this functionality to third party apps as well.
> Most responses here seem to revolve around God not following logic, fine there is nothing more to say then, and is truly nonsense, 2 + 2 does not have to equal 4.

That is the exact opposite of what I am saying. God does follow his logic, including his logic that people remain free of his own coercion.

> God blames and punishes his own creations for excising free will in a way he's deems incorrectly. He's wants us to learn from him and accept him, yet he created us and designed us down to the quark.

No one is 'blaming' you. You have internalized your own notion of the Christian God and are arguing against it.

God does not blame you. Never has anyone entitled God a 'blamer'. God does not even punish. Satan is the accuser (In fact that's another name for him), not God.

Rather one is punished by his own sin. Here's an example. I am raising my children in an upper-middle class lifestyle. They will be educated well and raised to understand how to live well. If my child decides to abandon this teaching and instead decides to become a drug addict, they cannot blame me for punishing them. They have punished themselves by turning away from my teachings.

The same is true of God. When we reject God, by rejecting his instructions on how to live life, we punish ourselves. Should you refuse God and rebuke him, he is not going to force you into his plan for eternal life. Isn't that what this whole thing was about? Free will? Well here's the ultimate example. If you don't follow God and corrupt your own soul, you will torment yourself when you see the perfection of God. Have you read the Christmas Carol? Scrooge is not tormented by the spirits. Rather seeing his own behavior in comparison to the good behavior of those around them is enough to indict him in his own mind. So too is it on earth. There is no coercion. No spirit is going to come down and force you to behave.

You can choose joy, or you can choose death. As a Christian, I evangelize because I see what it has done in my own life. When I see others who have gone through similar sufferings as myself (not going to get into this) deal with what life has dealt them and they seem upset, I want to share with them the good news of the gospel and the joy that is to be found in conforming with God's will. No one is going to force you and no one is going to smite you down with lightning. Christianity utterly rejects the notion of karma or that an individual sin leads to individual destitution (book of Job puts this one to rest). The only person who will punish you is yourself when you don't follow the will of God, just as those who refuse to follow the rule of physics and decide they can fly off tall buildings have no one 'punishing' them but themselves. To a Christian, the rule of life prescribed by Christianity is similar to living our life in accord with the rules of physics. There is no difference, since both have the same source, and the laws regarding sin are manifest and obvious to those undertaking the study of the natural world.
If you could pay to remove them, would you?
The more you know. Thanks!
Most of the times I use git, I don’t actually need version control, I just want to put my files on Github.
Michael Jordan is the name of a famous AI/ML researcher. What I love is they’re both tops of their careers.
Bingo. They're not deliberately pushing this, they're just the public face on the initiative. You can complain about Apple all you like, but you're not given the choice to boycott the CIA.

The only reason we were even told this was being introduced in the first place is because it's being run on edge hardware (ie, phones). One talk at DEFCON on weird resource/energy spikes on apple devices and its existance leaks to the public domain which is even worse PR. The only difference is that historically such government level analysis has been conducted behind data center black boxes.
That's only for evasion, I'm talking about avoidance. Most billionaires can easily spend their entire lifetime avoiding taxes. Taking out a low-interest ELOC against unrealized gains is 100% legal and a low-risk transaction for a bank. No amount of "going after the banks" changes that.
emacs --daemon

Then connect with emacsclient. You can also name the daemon which lets you have specific configurations for specific tasks. At that point, launching emacs for quick stuff is very fast.
>but the amount of people saying I was stupid and gullible has really stuck with me.

The amount of people saying something about you on a mostly anonymous internet message board has really stuck with you?

This is, probably for your own good, a decent indicator that you should stop visiting said website.
Becoming a common thing now, maybe people will finally believe something must be done, but it’s likely already too late.
I didn’t see that. Do you have a link? I only was able to find Jane Horvath (Apple Chief Privacy Officer) saying they were already scanning photos using PhotoDNA at CES 2020 [1].

[1] https://www.engadget.com/2020-01-07-apple-facebook-ces-priva...
It's 99.5% digital. They're mostly drilling holes in hard drives, not burning documents.

Edit: Of course "everything" is encrypted. You still destroy stuff anyway because of defense in depth.
Sure, it’s radical but not excessively. The US had a %90 tax bracket in the post war decades (not that I’m suggesting bringing it back) and the country and economy somehow managed to survive. There are countries in Europe that have wealth taxes.

I don’t think taxing more is an effective way of solving social and economic problems though and doing so doesn’t have to be cripplingly expensive. For example the US spends twice as much, per person, on health care than other OECD countries. You spend as much on health per person through the government, funded by your taxes, as Europe does just funding Medicare, Medicaid, CHIPS, etc, and then spend the same again through private health insurance. Why? Because the health insurance system drives costs across the board up through the roof. All you people with company plans you contribute thousands to, you already paid enough for a full first world health system in your taxes and got nothing for it, so you have to pay again for yourselves.

Why that isn’t issue number 1 for every American tax payer is beyond understanding. So don’t take my up thread comment to mean I’m some libertarian extremist, or this comment to mean I’m a radical socialist. It’s just a matter of looking at what works.
* arrow keys

* pg up/down

* find (^W)

* go to line (^_)

the first two are standard across applications, and the last two are in the help menu that shows up by default.
It should be obvious that at this point Apple isn't qualified to make people's privacy choices.

Also, how are you still on their side? Are you an app developer?
Perhaps, but GitLab had a browser ide earlier, and I think theirs is better. So it’s more likely to just be normal GitHub v GitLab feature competition.
I will not push back on soap-box issues because, unfortunately, too many folks have uttered the line, "x issue is life and death for me and cannot be debated". I get that feeling, because my groups issues are like that for me, however my groups issues aren't of such popularity that I don't have to witness people doing exactly that. It's quite a frustrating paradigm, especially when your political allegiances land you among folks who have quite rich opinions about people of said group and the institutions around them (at times.)

All in all, I don't miss the news or politics. I hear about important things and am still "informed" just by the virtue of having a pretty eclectic group of friends. For instance, I heard about the rocket attacks on Israel because part of my team is in Israel. That prompted me to read the entire wikipedia article on this topic, which was illuminating in giving me a fact-based understanding; however what I lack is an opinion. What I don't get is the every day reminders of issues x, y, or z while seeing my groups issues ignored or deprioritized and when friends do this (probably inadvertently) I'm able to tolerate it because I hear it less.
Interesting. That was not my experience. I could type to search, but pressing enter just showed a message about copying the emoji to the clipboard. This was over a Remote Desktop connection, so perhaps that affected the behavior? Or it might depend on the specific type of text input field.

In any case, most of the characters I use XCompose for (such as arrows, mathematical operators, Greek letters, and non-ASCII punctuation) are not emojis and cannot be selected this way.
The next decade we are going to see a lot more heat related deaths. And unfortunately, it will disproportionally affect the poorest/most vulnerable people.
So I have a question and I'd like to understand if possible.

To me programming isn't text editing. Granted, we use text to write most code outside of say Pike but effectively most programming is working with symbols right? Like .subst is meaningless as an operation on a string but .substring(0, 1) is meaningful.

So I don't really get the advantage of such, to my mind, rudimentary text editors. At a minimum surely being given contextual information about the symbols you are working with (type, fields, methods, etc) is helpful? Perhaps there are languages or domains that are better suited? I can see that there's not much difference between an ide and editor for new languages but why do people prefer text editing and prioritize typing speed where IDEs exist? Does an editor create a sort of flow or deeper state since lack of tooling requires deeper mental context?
>> If you take advice on infectious diseases from an ophthalmologist, you're going to have a bad time.

> Why am I going to have a bad time for following his rules and advice?

You're not, you're just being over-literal. Most ophthalmologists are sensible people who will give guidance outside their fields that comports with the guidance from medical professionals in that field. That sounds like your ophthalmologist. However, if you find an ophthalmologist who blatantly contradicts the guidance from areas far outside his field, then that's when "you're going to have a bad time." The reason for that is you've likely found someone who doesn't respect the limits of his own knowledge and experience.
it’s a joke on Imperialism as well as how big tech companies solve their problems. not actually funny.
What you're doing is changing "Two Americans run their homes on solar panels" into "American homes run on solar panels" with the intent of fudging the quantity so that readers assume it means most or all of them, while being able to argue "they are American homes, plural, so it's correct".

"Device scans photos" and "Apple scans device" imply two very different things about how much is scanned, and you're using the latter because you know that if you describe it accurately readers won't be as panicked as you want them to be.
There is a good amount of confusion throughout this very thread about what this is.
I remember the sentiment right after 9/11 and the country was baying for blood.

It seems like the most prudent thing to have done was to adopt a kind of Fabian Strategy where we don't invade a nation halfway around the globe and hope to change a culture that has stubbornly been able to avoid being conquered by the major empires in world history. When you really look at it, no major act of terrorism of the same scale was going to happen anyways. I mean really, mass shootings end up killing more people. And it's not like the hijack an airliner strategy is going to work again.

But here we are, 2+ Trillion burned and nothing to show for it.
Maybe the menu key, if you have it
This pullout is so incredibly hasty and poorly thought out. For weeks now, this has been a fast-moving disaster and the media coverage had been so limited until provincial capitals started falling. For those not aware, the first atrocity was that the US failed to think about all the Afghani allies who risked life to work with Americans, such as translators. While the US later scrambled to evacuate some of them (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/21/us/politics/afghanistan-i...), others were left to fend for themselves and faced brutal consequences like beheadings (https://nypost.com/2021/07/24/translator-who-worked-for-us-a...). For the last two weeks, the Taliban's militias have been systematically taking over one provincial capital after the next, as the Afghani government sees desertions from their uncommitted and relatively untrained military forces.

The US really needs to reverse the pull out and think about what it means to cooperate with a people and nation build. Yes, there have been numerous past missteps and money wasted with little accountability - but nation building, particularly after a war, was always going to be expensive and time-consuming. Leaving the project halfway after all these sunk costs feels like a hasty PR move that is now going to turn into an absolutely disastrous legacy for Biden and for America. I'm glad to see the decision to send 3000 troops into Afghanistan (https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-evacuations...), but am concerned that the US's commitment ends at evacuating embassies rather than supporting a nation that clearly needs help if we want a future ally in the region, instead of a future adversary. Let's not return to square one.
It's very simple. It behaves like users would expect something like Word to behave.

Editors like Vim have a learning curve because they introduce the concept of modal editing which takes some getting used to.
Paperwork is likely burned in these situations, instead of shredded.

Although digital is replacing a lot of paperwork, many things are still printed these days.
So what was your point in posting the original post? You post seems to be just a comment on the page layout and speculation about it based on her appearance.

Its almost certainly a company stock photo of her.

The page layout is bad, (she's looking off the page, which makes it awkward) but its the tech news web (moving ads, almost unreadable without reader view...).
There aren’t many ways to cope with this realization. The tipping point was Colin Powell’s “definitive proof” at the UN Counsel that Irak had WMD. As long as such criminals are free, we are not.

Citizen may even too aware of this, as half melt into guilt of what the USA has done, the other half still have hope but also cynicism, even despair.

As for other nations, if I were Iran, Irak, the Talibans, the Afghans, I’d fund efforts to destabilize USA. If I were China, I’d even organize it to ensure it weakens them without weakening the commercial exchanges. If I were Russia I’d tip into the jar too. USA made many enemies, it may be the target of coordinated spy work.

And I say this as a staunch partisan of the USA. We should spend more on looking benevolent.
No one is going to argue that Trump is a great orator or that he doesn't gaffe or that every single thing that comes out of his mouth ought to be taken at face value (Are you kidding me... do you believe this is true of any politician? Look at what happened with Cuomo after months of media adulation and an emmy....)

In the case of the lab leak theory, Trump was always extremely clear that he thought it a possibility and that he did not necessarily think it was a bioweapon. I can see that you are uninterested in engaging in good faith, because instead of keeping the debate to what it was about (the lab leak theory) you're changing the goalposts (demanding that everything he say be absolutely clear and never wrong or stupid, apparently in contrast to every other president before him [1]).

Lots of presidents speak poorly on certain issues, make stupid statements that they later have to cover up and retract, or cause confusion. That doesn't make them wrong on the issues they do speak clearly on.

> Would seem to "indicate" that you're not exactly the most reasonable person to have any discussion in good faith to begin with.

Oh please... downvoting someone who is giving you evidence of exactly what was said without a response indicates that those downvoting are only interested in ignoring reality.

[1] If I recall correctly, one of the most popular presidents of all time got up on stage and actually told the American public that accusations against him literally depend on 'what the meaning of the word is is'... come on, this is the most demanding and insane standard to expect of any American leader.
Whatever new spin Apple try to add to the original gaffe the fact still remains that they are opening the door on everyone's iPhone to some kind of scanning. That in itself is the problem, not whatever form that scanning may take. From this point onwards iPhone users have to trust Apple that it won't, for example, do secret deals with China to extend the reach of this scanning. Data scanned at source on-device is a much bigger issue than data scanned when saved in the cloud. The difference is night and day.
It's probably impossible to teach the broader public about the time scales involved in this. What we do now affects the world in decades to come (and more). And what we did for decades affects us now.
Years back, when Cracked used to be decent, there was an article by John Cheese, which I forget now, wrote the most profound sentence that I have ever read in my life:

Anger is addictive.