skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
My problem with all of this is not some abstract slippery slope of "what happens if China starts insisting that Tank Man be added to the hash list" or whatever.

It's the practical scenarios where people in the United States have previously been indicted and their lives ruined over "child pornography" or "statutory rape" that stretches the definition to the breaking point. Young men just barely 18 years old have gone to jail because they have taken pictures of their technically under-aged girlfriends. Often their real crime is that they've simply upset someone rich and powerful, or that they were guilty of being black and dating a blonde white girl. I wish I was being facetious, but this happens all the time.

More importantly, in this digital age, many stupid teenagers upload nude pictures of their under-aged girlfriends to the Internet. Sometimes as revenge for the girl breaking up with them, sometimes because they "hacked" a girl's account and downloaded their selfies, or they legitimately have the photos and just wanted those sweet internet karma points.

Imageboards like 4chan are full of what is technically CP, even though nobody was directly harmed in its creation. Other stupid teenagers download these photos, as do older paedophiles that trawl these websites looking for CP. Some of them will share it with other paedophiles, internationally even.

So what happens if one of these paedophiles gets arrested for a serious child sex crime? Their PCs and their phones will be searched, and the pictures will end up on the CP hash database, of course. Even with this "multiple nations" requirement, that just requires two arrests for the hash to be added. Nothing really changed, there's just a delay.

Now what will happen to the stupid teenagers that downloaded the same photo? Teenagers that aren't child molesters! Teenagers that aren't paedophiles!

Apple will probably say: No worries, we filter out the phones belonging to under-aged children from the results.

... until they turn 18.

Get it? This is a legal landmine in the pocket of every stupid kid. YOUR stupid kid, that looks at porn on the internet, just like every other stupid kid.

This is just one scenario where this could lead to a false positive that totally and irrevocably destroys someone's life. I can think of several more, and dozens once you start adding the political pressure from various other nations.

There is just no way to make this kind of dragnet surveillance safe. Even a tiny false positive rate is unacceptable when there are hundreds of millions of people playing this distopian lottery.
That's pretty difficult to measure, but I think it's pretty difficult to argue that it hasn't made them money.

That is to say, it's hard to even wrap my head around how Google has been able to leverage Android to influence the development of mobile as a platform, or the information they've been able to collect from 3 billion Android devices. So it's hard for me to guess how much money Android helped Google to earn.

But it takes ten seconds of back of the envelope math to determine that Android makes money for Google. Google pays $8-12 billion per year to be the default iOS search engine in 2019[2]. I think it's safe to say that Android is worth at least that much to Google.
React is supposed to be the easy way to get a job. If you feel the market is too competitive, try something else.

Ruby on Rails is probably the next most popular web stack.

Mobile is another form of "front end". Try Flutter, or native Android/iOS.

Vue and Angular are quite popular too. I feel like React has mostly been adopted because it's a replaceable part. But there's plenty of good web stacks too.

It's all a balance of risk and returns, and you want to hedge your bets.
Im pretty sure anyone can.
That's the one, yes! Amazing, aren't they? Walking around nonchalantly, like they own the place. ;-?
I was under the impression that from 50 cm (middle of the sides) to about 70 cm (the corners of the dishwasher) it wouldn't be that bad, but I'll need to do the math.
Ultimate stillness is death, and the ideas of nirvana while leaving folks behind is but a single school in Buddhist thought. I find it to be anti-humanist romantic escapism.

Another version of nirvana brings back the learnings to other humans and help alleviate their suffering.

Ego inflation causes a lot of the suffering for sure, but you can’t function as a human without ego either. To deny it is to deny humanity, to escape into a baby or animal like state.

On the other hand spiritual inflation (i.e bypass) of this sort can be just as bad; ego evolved because it was evolutionarily adaptive (despite having massive failure modes). You can meditate in complete peace only if you free ride others taking care of business of the real world.

Sati also means to remember, anamnesis in Plato’s terms. Among many, to remember who you are; not a god, not a devil, a human that evolved into consciousness and now has to reconcile the upstairs and the downstairs of reality with your fallacious cognitive machinery the best way you can.
No. Contrary to Craig's claims, Google & Microsoft et al. do similar hash matching on the cloud, instead of 'looking at images'.
The means by which the poll was conducted is fundamental to the nature of the quality of the results.
That's just smoke in the eyes while hiding the real problem which is allowing monitoring, not where, when, by whom, and for what reason.

And I would also like to get some real numbers about children abuse cases compared to drugs/domestic/gangs/organized/etc. crimes. In other words, how much they impact the society.
Wanna bet that in the world there are for example a lot more normal citizens abused by the police every day than old men wanking to a kid picture? When will come the scanning of cops iPhones to catch the "bad apples"?

I'm very serious. Child abuse is a cancer and must be stopped, but if they're employing all that technology for this and not for that, well, dear Apple, I want to see some numbers that would justify the choice.

And don't reply "even saving only one child is worth ... yadda yadda yadda" You know what I mean.
He has convinced me that really nearly all consumer oriented locks are easily picked.

According to cops that did a talk in a neighborhood I lived in though, usually criminals just kick in the door anyway. To be skilled in lockpicking probably means you are skilled enough in life that robbing houses isn't going to be your major vocation.
A lot of companies use leetcode-style tests as the first step which means you can’t even talk to a human beforehand and leverage your soft skills to get ahead.
what if you just did it as a hobby/fun thing to do once or twice a week...?

maybe after a while it would be second nature once a real opportunity presented itself?
Yeah for some reason these types of articles almost always get something wrong and just make things more confusing for people that come across them.
Pfizer, Moderna seen reaping billions from Covid-19 vaccine booster market
Resizing in VB was easy. .netCore even has some of the game GUI editor behavior, with built in resizing!

There are other problems, and i wouldn't list this as one of them.
Snopes rated that claim "Mixed"

Compare:

It was a subjective call on whether ____'s use of phrases "you have to show strength" and "demand that ____ do the right thing" were meant to condone violence and crimes among ____ extremists without explicitly encouraging it.

With:

___ said they should “stay in the street,” “fight for justice,” and “get more confrontational.” But there was more context to ___ remarks, and ___ didn’t call for violence, nor did ___ words incite violence.

---

The first is from the article on Trump you cited (rated "Mixed").

Second quote is from an article about comments by Maxine Waters on George Floyd protests & LA riots (of which she explicitly said, "I call it a rebellion") https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/maxine-waters-comments/ (rated "False")

The pattern seems to be: If there's a way a favored speaker can be taken positively, that will be explained. If there's a way a non-favored speaker can be taken badly, it will be called out.
> get back lots of energy and/or blow up your whole solar system.

Fun concept - a bomb you can't throw without it dragging your world along.
Fwiw, briefly surfing the topic, I enjoyed[1].

[1] Recent progress in modeling imbalance in the atmosphere and ocean (2019) https://sites.ualberta.ca/~bsuther/papers/imbalance/reprint.... [pdf]
Don't download actual CSAM, that's too questionable of a proposition. Just figure out how to manipulate innocuous images such that they trigger Apple's perceptual hashing algorithm. Then flood the web with those. If the false positives massively outweigh the true positives then eventually people will stop paying attention.
No they wouldn’t need a system like this. They already escrow all your iCloud Backups, and doing the scanning server side allows you to avoid any scrutiny through code or network monitoring.
> You don't get hired as an independent or investigative journalist anymore, at the start of your career.

> You do get hired as a content magnet for eyeballs

I get the idea and can imagine it, but I wonder what the reality is. Do you happen to be in journalism?
> But I sympathize with Apple for making transparent what I assume happens behind closed doors anyway.

Using your devices' CPU and battery seems more egregious than doing it on their servers. If they want to help law enforcement, then they should pay for it. Of course they want to help law enforcement by forcing other people to pay the costs.

Imagine if Ford came out with a cannabis sensor in their cars that automatically called the cops on you if it detected cannabis inside the car. The sensor is allegedly only active when you're renting a Ford vehicle, not if you purchase it outright. Not a perfect analogy, but how comfortable would you find this situation?
Yeah, that was strange. But it is probably a recognition of the relatively high probability of false positives on a per-picture basis with the system they've built. Having the threshold so high is probably necessary to ensure their stated false positive rate given the implementation (something around 1 in a trillion according to another article). But still, publicizing a hard number like that seems counter productive to the goal of keeping child porn off of Apple systems.
I admire the author's straight-up owning her choice here, in spite of the elitism that's long fueled the whole "lol you use nano!?" douchebaggery.

Perhaps worth a chuckle: I once interviewed on-site somewhere, panelist-style format with "the team" hitting me with questions all around. One of them asked about my preferred editor. I mentioned some GUI editor I was using back then (don't remember now, it's changed over the years). He laughed and said something like, "what, you!? YOU use a GUI editor, not vim!? C'mon man! You're better than that!" So I fired right back at him, jokingly: "Dude, it's an editor. Not a religion. I ain't down the the jihad, bro!"

Fact is, you can be productive in just about any editor as long as you know how to use it right.

If vim/emacs is your jam, fantastic, you have fun with that. You can brag about "productivity" all you want, but there are - demonstrably - other people out there who don't do it your way and they're equally productive, and in some cases better. Productivity isn't measured in keystrokes per second. What matters is what gets DONE.

The elitist attitude that anyone not using emacs/vim is "fail" or "noob" is just plain stupid. All that does is demonstrate that you value your own ego over the success of your team, and that you might derive pleasure from putting other people down, a significant mental health problem. It also forces people to raise their guard around you, and erodes their trust in you, especially if that attitude is reinforced in other ways. I'm not saying you can't joke around with people, and it would be short-sighted and foolish to draw any final or major conclusions on ONE thing like this alone, but if someone sincerely pulls this elitist BS on you, you'd be a fool not to raise your guard, to some degree, around that person from then on.
Mostly hysterical may technically be an exaggeration, but mostly misinformed, and often dis-informative is not.

This isn’t just about people weighing things they dislike more strongly.

It’s also about groupthink, confirmation bias, and a lack of curiosity.

HN doesn’t have an immune system against straight up misinformation.
> I do not see why globally strong UI/UX should be a bad thing for users

Except "globally strong UI/UX" is usually just design wankery that totally ignores decades of usability studies.

> just because it disregards some standards of unknown quality on an unknown platform.

Yeah, because the bleeding Windows UI guidelines that were in force for decades and known by hundreds of millions -- or are we in billions territory? Probably -- of users are "some standards of unknown quality on an unknown platform" nowadays.

Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
You're welcome. I think the crux is that people are worried about the police knocking at their door and/or inspecting their photos due to mismatching on this purportedly unreliable hash method.
It fascinates me how people sprinkle bits of insight and what one learn from it.

I googled that name and gawker article from 2014 showed up… and I’m speechless…
The thing (many) people are worried about is that, having instituted a backdoor on the user's device, Apple may lose the ability to control how it is used. In the past, their strongest defense when the FBI asked them to use a backdoor to decrypt a user's device password has been "we don't have a backdoor that allows us to decrypt a user's device password, so we couldn't do that for you even if we wanted to".

From now on, when asked to check whether a user's encrypted phone contains arbitrary content the FBI wants to know about, Apple can no longer say "we don't have a way to do that." Sooner or later, you can bet they will start doing it, whether they want to or not.
> This was, to us, an unexpected result. Given all the commentary and folklore surrounding the merge problem and how difficult it is said to be to resolve merge conflicts…we had expected new code (NC) to be the most common choice.

Is this really particularly surprising? I've almost never written new code to solve a merge conflict. Merge conflicts are hard to resolve because they require making complex decisions, not because they require writing code.
the opportunity being to add general functions in photo viewing apps that add a little entropy to every image (for this specific purpose), to rotate hashes, rendering the dual databases useless

monetization I guess being to hope for subscribers on github, as this could likely just be a nested dependency that many apps import. a convenient app for this specific purpose might not last long in app stores.
What is the process to make sure the next management will honor these promises?
> The big question for me is how and why Tim Cook and Apple's board signed off on a plan to do huge damage to Apple's reputation and user trust. If they didn't know, it's a problem. If they knew and didn't realize the inevitable backlash, well that's a different problem.

Comments like this make me wonder how in touch HN is with the average person because I genuinely don't believe most people care or even know that this is happening. I may be wrong but Apple could've pretended this backlash doesn't exist and did nothing about it and they would lose nothing for it.
One problem is the design of the “Like” button. The target audience - the recipient - of the action of pressing this button is the other people. They will see a higher number next to the thumb up. If this is the visible result - this is what people will use it for. To show support to the opinions they agree with. The stronger the opinion - the stronger the support. Often the content people agree with is not actually what they find useful for themselves.

But what if we designed the “Like” button to be directed not at the others, but at yourself. I mean, when you press the “Like” button it has consequences for you. If you “Like” useless content, then you will get more useless content in the future. Would that change the dynamics of “liking”? Would it make people think more carefully about what they like if their future content recommendations depended on it?

I’m building just such a system at https://linklonk.com

When you upvote an item - you don’t simply increment the counter and make that item rank higher for everyone else. Instead, you connect stronger to other users who upvoted that item before you. The stronger you connect to someone - the more weight their upvote has for you - the higher their other upvoted content ranks in your recommendations. This creates a feedback loop where you use the upvote button no to influence others, but to direct your future recommendations. This is a “filter bubble” - one that you very consciously form.
Which is why I am confused by a lot of this backlash. Apple already controls the hardware, software, and services. I don't see why it really matters where in that chain the scanning is done when they control the entire system. If Apple can't be trusted with this control today, why did people trust them with this control a week ago?
Cloud Scanning vulnerability: no transparency over data use. On the phone, you can always confirm the contents of what’s added to the safety voucher’s associated data. On the cloud, anything about your photos is fair game.

Where does that fit in your set intersection?
Do you write code in BBEdit? VS Code feels way more capable, at least at first glance, but I know BBEdit fans have a lot of love for it.

I ask because I'm growing a little tired of VS Code. It works nicely, but it never feels like a native editor. BBEdit, and Panic's Nova, feel like I'm actually using a Mac. I'm trying to decide if either of those are better than (or at least as good as) VS Code.
now we are getting somewhere... away from personal insults (and ad hominem attacks).

Honestly, if you show me proof about your position, I easily flip. that's the point of science, I'm happy to be proven wrong. That's what I like about HackerNews as well.

Yet, what you showed so far makes me rather worry.

I used nature papers from medicine (these are super hard to publish ... I have friends who tried. You need to be rigorous and on the top of your field in research. don't get me wrong there are issues with peer-review and publishing but they are nothing compared to the sources you currently shared).

Ok let's look at your papers.
The first is not a paper, not even peer reviewed. It's a blog that is known to post factually wrong articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research
There is not even an author on the website. Wikipedia lists founders and authors unkown. The focus is also politics not medicine (seems no medical expert has ever looked at this). The wikipedia article has even lists were they debunk the claims of the article you posted.

Moving on to the bmjopen article. Yes, this is peer reviewed, in an open access journal. Compared to nature, I think I could be able to write an article that is published there ( Impact factor 3 compared to nature with over 14).

Still it's peer-reviewed and not blog propaganda from some unknown author. First of all, the paper does not say anything about the overall effectivness of masks.

They compare cloth masks with medical masks in healthcare workers. That matters. Also of course, here (and in Hong Kong) everybody wears surgical masks (and a lot of people wear cloth mask on top), so 2 masks. Makes sense doesn't it.

Again where is some scientific evidence that masks don't work? There is no evidence. The Texas example you bring up is an anecdote. I can bring an anecdote on how better HK, Taiwan and China dealt with the issue all of the people wearing masks and then where are we? We have no clue who is right. Then take in the advice of the majority of medical healthcare professionals (they advice to wear masks).

The expert in COVID-19, who made a test detecting it recommends wearing masks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Drosten

The people who are against masks just don't have that standing, they usually are not experts in virology (have never published scientifically), and don't seem to understand the difference between anecdotes and the scientific methods. You might find some that are not in there and I'm careful to listen and check their claims ... because I want to be proven wrong (This is how I learn, this is why I engage in discussion ... I want to see where I am wrong.). Your argumentation is unfortunately completely lagging.
Meditation (raja yoga) + karma yoga = 8fold path
I think I might just do that. My concern is largely about just how much of a double ended commodity it seems to be. It's very easy to find people and very easy to learn, so it's very easy to cast a massive net and compare everyone. I asked this question initially because I was just rejected from yet another apparently more general JS stack oriented agency type place that ended up testing me exclusively on React. I didn't struggle with it, but I certainly wouldn't have timed better than someone who had touched it more recently. I only had time available to me to get through 8/10 test cases, and I'm pretty sure they just saw that and considered me someone who can't write code.
"Mr Federighi said the "soundbyte" that spread after the announcement was that Apple was scanning iPhones for images.

"That is not what is happening," he told the Wall Street Journal."

But it is. That's exactly what's happening.

"Apple decided to implement a similar process, but said it would do the image-matching on a user's iPhone or iPad, before it was uploaded to iCloud."

Craig, Mr. Federighi, do you think we're _all_ mooks or what?
> If they don't then they will be arrested on return to the country.

A nationwide scheme to arrest people who leave the country, merely because they have in demand skills is absurd.

You are not going to be able to arrest people, who have in demand skills or prevent them from fleeing the country.

Like, what does that even mean? For how long do people have to be slaves to the nation?

People move countries all the time, and the idea that one is now going to be arrested for something that is perfectly normal and common is absurd.

What, is it just now illegal for people in a nation to ever spend time working outside of the country? Do you understand how ridiculous that is, to prevent people from leaving or working outside the country, forever?

> As another example the US requires citizens living abroad to pay taxes.

The most powerful country in the world can get away with this, yes. But a smaller nation isn't going to be able to have enforced prevention of high skilled labors leaving the country.
Using JavaScript and GPT-3 to connect a contextual speech bot to Clubhouse
Heck, what is the process for current management to honor them?
Blue Planet II depicts a group of Dolphins visiting a certain kind of coral that emits a substance that allegedly helps them fight off parasites.

Earlier BBC documentaries show animals (birds and fish) seek the "service" of certain types of fish to clean them from parasites.

So the idea of animals using medicine is kind of presenting itself. It's not totally in your face, but it's no more out there than prehistoric humans discovering the medicinal properties of certain plants.