skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Do you not think that "code red" fatigue is part of this? Ordinary people are bombarded with messages predicting doom at some distant point in the future for one reason or another on an almost daily basis, and yet life rolls on.
Sure thing boss. As soon as you pay for an extension to the house I'll have that extra room that I can allow monitoring in.

Tbh This sort of <insert rude word here> shouldn't be legal unless the company pays rent for said room that is turned into a work place(market price for the area). While not a lot can afford the extra room at least those that don't have a choice get a boost to help them move to bigger housing.
It definitely looks like they intended to get the plate that at first glance would read "WSGI GAS" ("whiskey gas"), but failed to do so, so had to settle for "WGSI GAS".
The top 10% are paying over 71% of income taxes in the US. Who are you to say what their "fair share" is?
Or it could cause many unintended consequences by messing with a super complex system we don't fully understand.

"Stop doing what broke it in the first place" (e.g. stopping CO2 emissions) sounds like the sanest option.
Apple obviously does not want CSAM on their servers.

As the document states, they do not want to scan all images server-side for privacy reasons. They just want to flag the positives while keeping privacy standards as high as posible for everyone else.
I see this a lot, too. "It's just 2 degrees" – what the hell is wrong with you? If your body temperature is 2-3 degrees above normal, you feel like absolute shit.

Likewise for atmospheric CO₂ concentrations; "it's just 0.04 %" – dude, you surely start noticing the effects of "just" 0.04% alcohol in your blood. Or hey, try cyanide.

What is wrong with people?!
Waitbutwhy put it well: “ 18,000 years ago, global temperatures were about 5ºC lower than the 20th century average. That was enough to put Canada, Scandinavia, and half of England and the US under a half a mile of ice”
We are running head first into the Great Filter.
There is also the possibility that they properly adapted to their users. Power users as a proportion of Internet's total user count probably followed an inverted zipf distribution over time. At the begining 100%, then 99, 90%, 9% and now less than one percent.

Assuming power users formulate search in ways that are irreconcilable from those of the average user, and assuming Google adapted their models, metrics to the average user and retrained them at each step,

then, we are simply no longer a target market of Google.
Ask HN: How can a SWE/Data Scientist get involved in fighting Climate Change?
Looking for recommendations from the HN community on where one would start.

On the technical side I'm interested in suggestions regarding:

* Open Source / Community Projects

* Companies / Organisations / Startups working on promising innovative research or products in disruptive sustainability

On the community / activist side, I'm looking for:

* Activist groups that lobby for change and sustainable practices, where computer science skills might be able to contribute

* EU / UN projects where such a skillset might be useful

Any other general advice welcome. I'm tired of writing code for ad-tech while the world burns, and I suspect there are others like me who would like to get more involved, hence this post.
There's nothing to "keep" under 1.5C, we are pretty much already there when error bars are considered. 2C is going to be breached regardless because even if we went carbon neutral today we have decades of locked in warming.

Why the scientists are not communicating this information which has been in pop-science (as early as An Inconvenient Truth (2006), which documents the lag between CO2 rise and temp rise) is beyond me.

I still advocate for mitigation/reduction efforts because future generations exist and they deserve the best climate we can pass on, but let's not pretend like we are on track to preserve any level of normal. 1.5C is more than a moonshot - it is behind us.
Yes. In first approximation, if we reach a global temperature increase of X degrees, the actual temperature increase that people will actually feel on land will be double that. Oceans are warming up much more slowly because they are so deep and trap all the heat.

See this tweet: https://twitter.com/JFrancisClimate/status/13877671305657917...

And on top of that, there will be much higher temperature swings.
These are all marginal issues.

Even at the current level of population demand on resources is too great and will be massively too great if poverty is eradicated (as it should).

The long term solution for both the environment and people's quality of life (I don't think that not being able to travel, not being able to eat what one wants, having to live in a small flat in a dense city with mass transit only is a good life) is not only to have an objective to cut emission but to also have an objective to cut population.

Now, that is a very sensitive topic and so everyone prefers to ignore it.
Weird, I only see two images, the first headline one is of the (strikingly vibrant orange I thought) basket in situ.
that's awful. do you have a source on this?
But noone uploads that to iCloud. That's why they must implement this feature client-side ("because if you're not a pedo, you have nothing to worry about"), and then enable it for on-phone-only photos too ("because if you're not a pedo, you have nothing to worry about"). Then use the same feature on OSX ("because if you're not a pedo, you have nothing to worry about").
Every one is focused on climate change.

But climate change is just a symptom, and absolutely not the disease.

No one seems to want to discuss or even mention the actual root cause of climate change, namely: there are simply too many people on the planet.

Go back to less than 1B human on planet earth, and climate change will stop being a problem in a heartbeat.

But the implications of such a drastic population decrease are simply impossible for any politician to even consider, much less discuss openly.

Not to mention the swath of folks for whom "be fruitful and multiply" is still a basic moral tenet.
The actual report https://www.ipcc.ch/assessment-report/ar6/

I suspect that bad-faith-social-actors will attempt, as always, to undermine this report and minimize the obvious need to act in reality on Earth circa 2021.

I suspect that we must come up with social and economic mechanisms for making ALL pollution the problem of the polluter, versus an externality for everyone to absorb.

I suspect that we had better find such mechanisms NOW, vs a later that is too late.
Not necessarily. In India we do controlled burning so we have almost 0 wild fire incidents

We certainly don't have a forest fire season
Finally, one step closer to building Number Five from Short Circuit. More Input!
What are people switching too that is not susceptible to the same thing?
Catching attention doesn't necessarily help if it instinctively sets someone against you. I think climate change is the correct term in that it's reasonably objective, but climate chaos is ingenious for the visceral depiction of what things are going to be like going forward.
Not if offset by other taxes (such as income tax, consumption taxes on renewables, etc).
I'd buy a non-smart phone with a decent camera and SD photo storage in a heartbeat!
Farming is a small contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and the recent attacks on red meat for example are nonsensical if you look at the math that is used to justify it.
They see it as a socialist ploy. The best solution is to propose a revenue neutral carbon tax and promise not to use it to increase total revenue. Offer to cut other taxes by a proportional amount and have that as a central part of the pitch. It'll get more political support.
Cavemen would not even conduct Olympics you know its a big waste of money
International shame. IMHO, it's what finally pushed nuclear arms control into action in the 60s and 70s.
IPCC Interactive Atlas – Visualization of climate change data
It’sa good start, but at least an order of magnitude not enough.

China and India are doing it, the Earth is greener today than 20 years ago.
Caesar paradoxon: Every living human is related to Caesar
Covid put a minuscule dent into the carbon emmision, but we are basically back to normal.

Death don't have a great effect as the general carbon production (oil, coal, gas) are still rising.
It is weird that Fortran was modernized 30 years ago, but the old prejudicies live on. Maybe programming languages teachers in CS departments are now telling their students the same jokes "look how primitive FORTRAN is" that their own teachers told them a generation earlier. So the primitive FORTRAN 77 lives on in Computer Science lore, while Fortran 90/95/03/08/13 is what people in the actual number crunching community use.

Let's wait until 2050s and see, whatever Fortran 2050 will be like, if CS people will still joke about Fortran as if it was FORTRAN 77.
1password needs to admit they screwed up by trying to force their customers into migrating to their cloud product. 1password needs to provide a first class service option to customers that want nothing to do with the 1password cloud.
Our executive and legislature is combined in Australia (the cabinet is made up of members of the House of Representatives or senators from the party with the majority) and our public service (which cabinet ministers oversee in their portfolios) used to be really good and fiercely independent but has been increasingly politicised (especially over the last six or seven years, given the party in power) so not so much here.
I found some links for source code here:
https://www.easterbrook.ca/steve/2009/06/getting-the-source-...
https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/#GCM_code
I work in super wealthy people's homes mostly Procter & Gamble executives general electric executives a few celebrities. We're working on this wine cellar right now for a inventor of some wood glue called gorilla I think they also make cell phone glass, 5000 wine bottles. To start with the wine cellar and the deck above it cost about a million when the wine company came in the start filling the racks I couldn't afford one bottle. This project went on about 6 months too long but the homeowner didn't care. She got billed about $100,000 a month for work that should have been completed about 7 months earlier 100% knows this doesn't care. I'm fairly certain they just want to show their friends that they're having worked done to their house so they pay us to stand around and fix the tiniest little inconsistency/blemish. This is basically normal these days.

Another project I worked on in high school I'm still working on today and that was 20 years ago we built one of the largest homes in America in phases to hide the cost it's in Dayton Ohio and it's probably the most luxurious property ever conceived of it's basically a preppers billion dollar project complete with its own power plant that's an old train a lake that's climate controlled with rare species in it that also includes full-time marine biologist.

When Carl lindner built the Great American insurance Tower in Cincinnati the entire building was designed around his personal office and the view into the reds stadium so that he could see his team play they literally built the building around his office view.

You want stories of extravagance relating to personal construction with these people I got the stories we painted Carl linder Jr house once outside red white and blue just for a one weekend event involving George w bush. It was a 35,000 ft house took us a month and then took us another month to turn it back.

When Jessica Simpson was married to Nick lachey I worked in their home Jessica basically expected everyone to do everything for her not only was I construction crew I had to pick up her dirty clothes too. This is the normal behavior I have to deal with.

It's kind of rare but I worked in this Uber Democrats house a few years ago her basement was filled with fresh boxes that weighed like 50 pounds a piece and I had to move about a hundred of them I got real curious and opened up a box they were all filled with Michelle Obama books I estimated there is about 120,000 "becoming it Michelle Obama" books. ever wonder why Michelle Obama sold so many books? it's because about 20 people bought 100,000 a piece.
I very much agree, and as a bonus, these more optimistic solutions – solutions where we do something instead of (just) stopping doing something – seem easier for people to swallow too.
I remember worrying about this as a child, and I'm in my forties now. It's been a long, slow process.
They answer that question. The answer they provide is that they would leave the Chinese market.

You might not believe them but they are pretty clear on that point: “we will not accede to any government’s request”

This is the standard you have to hold Apple to. As I said, you might not believe them – but if you don’t trust their statements on some level then it’s game over anyway.
Flipping over because of hard braking is not something that happens in pro-cycling.

[edit] And yes, for time trials recumbents would be nice, but already time-trial bikes are pretty different and unsafe, I don't think the UCI would allow even more risk.
Jumping on the band wagon

Muscle memory is a thing and moving buttons around makes using the app harder.

Similarly, I want apps to realize that is not the only app I have on my phone and my life is not going to revolve around using it.

I long for a culture of Software as a Tool, like the hammer in my garage, it exists for when I need it. It does not beckon me for attention or email me about how the handle got updated. It will not need a huge update the moment I pick it up. I do not want to log into my hammer.

Perhaps I am nostalgic for pre-fast internet software. You acquire some bit of software and install it and it is what it is until you, the person using the thing, goes and installs the newest version.

You would get used to the bugs in the version you had - knowing they wouldn't go away - but the software still had utility and you kept using it. Now I get used to something and it changes every 2 weeks and every not and then it breaks something I liked leaving me frustrated and complaining into the void.
Thanks for this amazing quoteable.
No, The whole point is that 71% is not fair, it should be closer to 95%...
*historically contributed

Will contribute 6-10% of yearly emission in the coming years
Yes, I didn't want to spread false information because I'm no expert either. ~20 years is the time span I consciously remember reading & hearing about it but I'm sure scientists have warned us for much longer.
Most models forecast a 10bn max pop due to decades long trend of richer countries having lower birth rates.
Jack Vance's "The Blue World" is to my mind, the seminal work of fiction on Kraken interaction with humans.

I's also interesting that the protagonist Sklar Hast has a Scandinavian origin name but, that also the Kraken (Kragen in the book) originated from Scandinavian folklore.

Well worth the read.
this looks like a sweet way to build ship engines
This reads like a pre-prepared rant.

> It's definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products.

Uhh and where else will you go where the grass is so much rosier privacy-wise?
It’s post covid, and it’s ostensibly to ensure that they don’t just want to come back again soon which will cause more upset with the government because they will ‘take’ away incoming seats from stranded Australians (currently around 30,000 trying to return to the country, and only I think 3-4000 allowed in a week at present).

Not sure what you mean about coming into the country, the steps seem the same to me (inbound into australia) as they do for both the UK and the US - passport control, pick up bag, customs, out. Been the same for as long as I’ve been regularly travelling in and out (~18 years)
The point I got from the OP was that traditional culture was low-carbon from day 0, and that at least Britain's climate change minister was jetting about an AWFUL lot, and there are plenty of jet-setters pushing a vegan diet upon the world when home-kept chickens are obviously a net plus, both in terms of food waste (accounts for a significant carbon and other pollution footprint, as we pay to produce it) and in terms of proteins that don't require killing your chickens over (eggs).
Contrast that with having a cat or dog (look at amount of animals slaughtered for pet foods)

I agree that our systems need revamping in a large-scale way, particularly agriculture, as you imply.
While I love the UX of this site and how well executed it is, I think it’s spreading misconceptions about how the world works.

Human behavior is driven by contagious imitation (monkey-see monkey-do), and we all pile into the same behaviors at the same time, so this inequality will always exist. No matter how equitable the system.

Of all the content on the internet, 1% of it gets 99% of the traffic. Of all the movies on Netflix, 1% get 99% of the eyeballs. Of all the businesses on earth, 1% get 99% of the customers. Of all the stocks in the stock market, a tiny percentage generate ALL of the returns. I could go on and on.

Fundamentally, value-creation in a connected world results in an exponential (log) function, not a linear one.

And people’s brains turn to mush when trying to comprehend exponential vs. linear growth.

You can look at similar wealth curves in the supposedly more equitable nordics to see how similar they are if scaled up to a population the size of the US. On an exponential curve, extending the x-axis 100X further results in equally extreme outcomes like Jeff Bezos.

Basically, everything humans do results in extreme inequality.

So while we should certainly raise taxes on the mega-rich, the goal shouldn’t be eliminating exponential inequality altogether. Because it’s a base property of humanity.
What is the thesis here, that storms are a new hitherto unknown phenomenon that are radically outside the human experience?

There has never been an era where humans didn't have to put up with horrific storms. It took Pompeii 4-6m of volcanic ash to stop humans picking up the pieces and carrying on.

I don't think a focus on "oh there'll be more storms" is going to cut it. We have to be ready for storms anyway, having more of them doesn't change the risk calculations all that much in my mind. I'd rather pay the taxes for a big well air conditioned community centre to deal with heat waves. It'll be cheaper than what gets wasted on sporting venues.
The emissions from aviation are increasing every year, the majority of flights are for holidays rather than business, and only a very small minority of people globally actually take flights.

However, I belive the parent commenter was more pointing out the unfairness of picking and choosing what to ban rather than imposing a blanket charge on carbon.

This seems to have been missed by most, even when considering that the parent is likely correct that flights have a greater, and increasingly greater, impact on climate change than bitcoin does.
Well, that is what happens with a positive time preference. Being wealthy today is better than being wealthy tomorrow.

If you were to sit down and think about how war creates wealth you would at first think that it can't because it costs money to go to war and pillaging ruins the source of the spoils.

However, the urgency of money (interest on debt) creates a desire to have it earlier than later. If you can pay your debts back sooner you avoid paying interest. Therefore it is in your best interest to overharvest your farms, overfish the waters, overgraze the field, exploit your workers and pillage the village. Of course, the same applies to the lender. He wants to earn as much money as possible so he must obtain it as early as possible so that his interest compounds.

Of course in practice inflation puts a damper on that form of extortion and causes the time preference to shift negative. If your money is losing 50% of its value in 20 years you'd accumulate as little as possible and would rather receive money in the future because the amount of value you produce hasn't decreased which means you get twice as much coin in the future to represent the same amount of value.
Apple has caved to pressure from China before multiple times, and it would not be surprising for them to do it again.

Examples :

Apple to withhold a new privacy feature in China :
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/6/8/apple-to-withhold...

iCloud Data Turned Over To Chinese Government Conflicts With Apple’s “Privacy First” Focus : https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/icloud-data-turned-...

Apple removes police-tracking app used in Hong Kong protests from its app store : https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/10/apple-removes-police-trackin...
Yeah, how do you think planning the largest genocide in history sounds to people? Do you even hear yourself? Do you want to go to 6 out of 7 people and tell them they cannot breed? What will be the punishment if they do? Or will you forcibly sterilise them?
Funny the only thing I got out of taking econ classes was the fact that everything they teach undergrads is simplified bullshit. A carbon tax would never work, if only for the fact that it's too late in the game for a carbon tax to have any meaningful impact. Also I think it's hilarious that you had time to snidely point out how firm your grasp is on economics but a tax on bitcoin eluded your wisdom. You can correct the price on carbon but not on bitcoin? LOL
The confusion comes from how the miners are compensated for their energy burning. Currently, it's mostly by the block subsidy, which is independent of the amount of transactions in a block. But in a decade or two, that will be dominated by transaction fees, and we can actually attribute the energy cost to the transaction amount.
Yes it is, as it enables whole classes of people who have the ability to join the workforce, e.g. disabled people, or busy mothers , or people who simply can't move to the bay area . Those perks you talk about are not an option for the vaast majority of workers outside a few cities aroudn the globe
Thank you for a detailed and informative response.

> ....only has so many builders, roofers, cement shops, cranes... only so much capacity to produce houses....only so much labour, materials, capacity to produce.

IMO the underlying problem to solve is mobilisng this capacity. And the $$ to do so needn't come from rich people. The US anyway has been running budget deficit, there's also this ~$2T infrastructure bill. Some of that money could be used to solve housing/health/education problems and as an added benefit it'll provide jobs to the US citizens. I'm sure this will have 2nd order adverse effects but they I guess they won't be as disruptive.

I am not saying inequality is a problem; but taxing rich doesn't seem to solve it. It will lead to endless debate and lost time. It will take the focus away from the underling problems which is rotting basic human needs -- food/health/housing/education. The government should address underlying causes that lead to inequality and spend on infrastructure in a big way.
At some point we need to consider ramping down mass production no matter the consequences. This is getting out of hand.
What is striking is that a lot of misinformation is spreading around. How it works, what is behind it, what the alternatives could be, and especially what problem it tries to solve.

This tweet here gives interesting options to learn more about it https://twitter.com/yoyoel/status/1424154582372872192?s=20

I have no imagination of the suffering of the kids behind it and it's definitely good that we fight it. But why not for older kids?

Apparently this is already happening on all major platforms in the moment. Apples implementation is the most privacy friendly one, or isn't it?
I was studying this in uni 30 years ago.

There are general-interest educational videos on global warming from the 1950s:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=T6YyvdYPrhY