skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Ah, thanks for clarifying the question, and it's a really good one, and I haven't seen the answer to that. I'm guessing it would have been part of one recent update to the OS, and the feature then gets enabled on a certain date or remotely or something like that.

And your final question "What else are they capable of doing without my permission?" --- the answer is anything they want. Concretely, what are the capabilities installed NOW that they can take advantage of, who knows exactly?

As an example, I do remember a looong time ago Google remotely removed apps from Android phones, pretty sure Apple could or might even have done so as well.
vaccines are free
Just guessing, but I suspect this is because most software is designed to extract some minimum acceptable investment per person from maximum people, and simply focus on scaling.

When software is designed to focus on extracting maximum investment per person, and focus on whaling vs scaling, then you get loot boxes. Suddenly overall software quality matters a whole lot to the user base.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say hideously divided society might be exposed instead?
> There is also meant to be human verification of any flagged images.

"Rest assured our system is safe, a random guy working in a digital sweatshop at the end of the world will get to see your naked baby pictures just to make sure you're not a criminal"
Is there a better file browser? The macOS one is by far the one I’ve used the most (os6,7..X). Many routine operations seem hidden or non-existent when I try to move to windows or linux (which I’m keen to do).
The science of spying: how the CIA recruits academics (2017)
> Several soft drink companies have been trying to do this, with varying levels of success.

Isn’t this actually a healthy thing? People should drink Coca Cola in more moderate quantities.
I see what you are saying, but in that context then you lose what most people's intuitive definition of overfitting is. If I train a model on one image as my train set and then change one random pixel and run that model on this eval set then your argument would be that this is not overfitting because you are performing well on the eval set you created the model for.

My argument is that compared to models, as most people use them, micro-models are low bias and high variance, and thus overfit. That's why I set a distinction between a batman model and a batman micro-model.
Sailfish OS is mobile Linux and can run on smartphones. I didn't personally use it but the website claims it to run on the Sony Xperia 10 II from 2020.

It costs $50, though.

https://jolla.com
Pre-internet, I used to go drinking with a chap called John, one of the pubs we went to was next to the main police station, so unsurprisingly full of plod. One night we walked into the pub and it fell almost silent; it was only later we found out why -- John was the spitting image for the just-arrested Peter Sutcliffe: the Yorkshire ripper.
> But no one has really bothered to ask who the unvaccinated are. The Spectator’s data team has looked at the NHS database to find out. Britain’s racial disparity is worse than America’s. Some 16 per cent of white people in Britain have not been jabbed, but this figure stands at almost half for black people and a third for South Asians. Similar trends can be seen worldwide, with complex and much-debated causes (such as trust in authority). This vaccine gap shows no sign of closing. You can say that this is maddening, illogical, dangerous. But unless it changes, be in no doubt: vaccine passports would be a tool of discrimination likely to “whiten up” any venue in which they are deployed.

> Then comes poverty. Vaccines are popular in Britain’s prosperous areas but become less so the further down the income scale you go. The poorest 20 per cent in Britain are almost three times more likely to be unvaccinated than the richest (a figure that has never been published, let alone discussed). Again, let’s be in no doubt about who’d be most likely to end up out in the cold: people in the poorest communities who already get the worst deal from the health service.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210805212124/https://www.teleg...
"Parkinson's law is the adage that "work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion". It is sometimes applied to the growth of bureaucracy in an organization."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law
I didn't like the format of this article, bit too much back story, but think the basic conclusion is true.

Air quality has a quantifiable impact.

The shift to EVs and electric home cooking and heating will also improve this as a side effect.

Home stoves, including picturesque log fires are another source.

I didn't think the air freshness thing was particularly new, but maybe US regulations have fallen behind, I thought most building codes already considered this.
That's pretty much the Fairphone https://www.fairphone.com/en/
I fully agree. I always had to resort to command line when I couldn't find cut&paste in Finder. Finder was frankly the worst part of having to use Mac for a project.
In The Netherlands, it is common now for the police to report on a bust "also quite a substantial amount of cash was found".

Sometimes, this is the only substantial allegation.

Show me the man, I will show you the crime ( Stalin? Beria? )
Interesting maybe that Coinín (sp?) is rabbit in modern Irish/Gaeilge and is pronounced in the former manner. Presumably it has some indo European roots, that didn’t spread into common English usage.
> There is also meant to be human verification of any flagged images.

So Apple does have access to everything you store on your phone? Either they're lying about being concerned about privacy or you don't have your facts straight.
The tire thing is real, but EVs are better for brake dust too, as well as local and atmospheric pollution, so it's an overall win.

In some countries they're also displacing leaded gasoline which is a double win when it comes to intelligence affects of pollution.
What's changed is that I could've once taken reasonable measures to mitigate that risk. All of that's now in Apple's hands and they've got no reason to protect me.
time for some myth busting:

1. It's been turned on for all major cloud providers for some time. Upload something into google cloud/photos/dropbox? Yeah, the system's there as well. It just seems most people have been unaware of this so far.

2. It's only for the US. From my understanding Europe and ROW doesn't get this. At least for now.

3. I don't like this way of doing things, but I do understand that there's been major push from the US Government for this kind of tech. Basically, the tech companies had two choices: either add an actual backdoor, or provide another way of checking the content of all their users. They went with the latter.

4. If anyone has a problem with this solution, they should contact their US Representative, as they've been pushing this like crazy "for the children" :)

5. it's not scanning your local files. only the ones uploaded to apple photos. just like all the other actors.
Lua gives you means to build your object system anyway you want. A trivial example to protect a table below:

local p = { x = 1, y = 2 }
print( p.x, p.y )

setmetatable( p,
{
__newindex = function() assert( false ) end,
__index = function() assert( false ) end
} )

print( p.z ) -- you get assertion failure
p.k = 12 -- you get assertion failure too
How on earth is "fighting back" supposed to be correlated with "know what you were talking about"? All experience shows these are not correlated whatsoever. I have certainly met many people who didn't know what they were talking about but nevertheless was very combative about it. And conversely people who was very smart but (perhaps naively) thought ideas would win on merit, not on who shout the loudest, and therefore didn't "fight".
You dont have to 'Install' those apps. You're just moving their resource bundle (which yes, is a folder, but most people will not ever know) to a nice place where its easy to find. You can put it where ever you want, but there is an expectation that you will use Applications folder to keep things tidy. I dont see how its confusing, or why a normal user would be confused? They don't know anything about it being a folder unless they explicitly try and open it...
My friends are significantly more technical (and paranoid) than the average user. We've already discussed it.

But... yeah. Yeah. Which is why I got as many people on Signal as I could. Baby steps. The goal here, right now, is reasonable privacy, not perfection.
> Then there is tumblr, which is all but dead - explicitly for a "think of the children" concern from apple.

Tumblr had their porn ban decided 6 months before the snafu with the app and CSAM. It's nothing to do with Apple.
> Besides, overfitting is defined procedurally, not by how well it performs.

Huh? That's the opposite of the truth.

Compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfitting :

> In statistics, overfitting is "the production of an analysis that corresponds too closely or exactly to a particular set of data, and may therefore fail to fit additional data or predict future observations reliably".

> The essence of overfitting is to have unknowingly extracted some of the residual variation (i.e. the noise) as if that variation represented underlying model structure.

Procedural concerns are not part of the concept. Conceptually, overfitting means including information in your model that isn't relevant to the prediction you're making, but that is helpful, by coincidence, in the data you're fitting the model to.

But since that can't be measured, instead, you measure overfitting through performance.
Once I realised this, Blur’s ”Country House” took on a whole new meaning …
This article makes a good case for turning off every apple device you own.. and never turning them back on. And it's not because Apple has implemented this algorithm per-se, it's because the way they have implemented it punts the problems directly to Law Enforcement. Maybe they will (or have) proposed at least a manual review process after flagging before involving Law Enforcement. Otherwise it's tuttle/buttle all the way down...
That's the same visualisation used by CodeScene (https://codescene.com/how-it-works/), but there is a more elaborate one that represents affinity (number of connections) as distance to create something like a geographical map: https://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~craig/publications/vissoft2...
Maybe Apple will decrease child abuse cases but increase cases of child suicides..
(Be on top of security; this was recently on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27613217)
"You have an illegal video called 'CollateralMurder.mp4' [1] and you have been reported to the authorities."

How long until this is reality?

[1] Collateral Murder is the war crime the US committed and was leaked via Wikileaks and is the reason Assange is still behind bars.
> Tiny, less expensive cars are popular.

No idea where you have this idea from - reality is they’re tanking

> Most subcompacts were out of production by the end of [2019]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcompact_car
this is false. it's not scanning your local files.

only the files you upload to apple photos.
That would be picked up because the weight of the bar would be less. CPI is susceptible to changes in the quality of products but not their quantity which is accounted for.
The laws enforce this behaviour. The terms of service in the contract you signed allows them to. He has no recourse.
> this is why those two words are used in that expression

Do you believe that every "<adjective> <noun>" phrase is intended as "<noun> = <adjective>"? Do you believe that the phrase "fundamentalist Christians" is only used by people who want to create the association "all Christians are fundamentalists"?
What I don't understand is that Apple does seem to believe that this this has no possibility to open them up to very visible and expensive lawsuits in case of false positives. I'd assume if they hit the wrong person it would get ugly for them. Especially as civil rights organizations would love to support anyone who gets falsely accused if it was only for the publicity.
Unpopular opinion here.
I see the slippery slope, but I would say that this is the bare minimum price Apple is willing to pay to enforce privacy and encryption all over the ecosystem.
They needed to give something to the governments to take the “think of the children” element from the broader privacy discourse.
I think for example that the radical stance of Telegram on this is much more strategically detrimental to our broader right to privacy than this compromise Apple has settled with.
That said, we need full transparency here. Apple’s statement that the probability of false flagging is one in a trillion is not enough and can’t be taken at face value.
Does Apple openly reveal such details about their software? Could revealing it make it possible to drive somebody to find out how to trick it?
cloud versus local device is a massive distinction imo. or maybe im a dinosaur ;)
I was going to reply to the comment directly but I completely agree with what you said here.

And to add more to your second point: Lex is catering to people who want long form interviews. There are thousands of other podcasts that fit the interview to the time rather than fit the time to the interview for those that don't like this.
Wait, if the Apple algorithm flags a photo of my kid in his bath, some unknown human is going to check the picture for verification purpose ? That's even more cringe.
That's not really possible. iPhones require an iCloud account which even if not directly linked to you, serves as a pool of information that Apple can gather about you and work out your identity from. The second you switch on your phone, it connects to several cell towers and enables your position to be triangulated. As you move around between work, home, the shops, it's constantly informing the providers of your location. Even if you switch SIMs regularly, your device's IMSI number is static and serves as a unique fingerprint. Conveniently, spoofing IMSI numbers is illegal. Guess why.

Theoretically it might be possible to combat cell tower triangulation by having the modem only respond to one tower at a time and insert artificial latency to make it harder to work out your distance. But, another convenient fact: cell modems are all closed source, proprietary black boxes. They also have DMA (Direct Memory Access) to your phone.

Perhaps I should be wearing a tinfoil hat but these don't seem like coincidences to me. They seem like intentional measures to weaponise a tool in our everyday lives.
Lex was the most obvious example of a bad interviewer that came to mind after I read the title of this post. He's had an impressive selection of people on his podcast but his communication and interviewing style is the worst I've ever come across - very dry delivery, not following up on what the guests says, pointless questions about the meaning of life or good and evil or scifi-technology that doesn't exist, reading from a list of prepared questions, trying too hard to push his own opinions at some points, sucking up too much to Joe Rogan and Elon Musk etc.

I really don't know how he managed to get the selection of guests that he's had especially in the early days of the podcast.
+1 for IHP. I've not used it commercially but have played with it and it's awesome.
I mean no offense, but honestly I'm not a bit flabbergasted at all that anyone has your view. I keep seeing people acting as if the bubble they are in is a good representation of the world as a whole, and every indication that maybe they are wrong is met with a big surprise.

If you are truly flabbergasted by this you need to try to find a way out of your bubble so you can understand reality better.
Right - I thought we were pushing for more reasonable portion sizes? Isn’t this what we wanted a few years ago?
You should not have been downvoted. I grew up in apartheid South Africa, where I also learned to recognise government propaganda. I have also been somewhat surprised by how gullible people are being. But I've seen it before several times, usually as a prelude to attacking some other country: examples are the build up to the Iraq war, the bombing of Serbia, Libya and of course Syria.
> Apple has decided to scan images on your phone.

I wonder what would be the defense to apple if they decided to scan the images on your desktop / laptop as well. Is there a limit to how intrusive tech companies can get?
I think I will selfishly say I couldn't care less about child abuse as much as my iPhone being entirely mine with only actors/people with my explicit opt-in consent to be able to look at. I find that perhaps the root of what Apple thinks is not many people think that way but it's not even something I have to think about: I know clearly that is enough to move off the Apple ecosystem.

If anyone thinks or says otherwise they ought to think about what else they would agree to where the other person can do what they want to them without their consent.
It's not (only) about the hardware, both PureOS and Plasma Mobile platforms are nowhere near production-grade software, likely cannot be even considered beta-quality by an end-user.
Just swap out the child abuse hashes for Tiananmen square photo hashes and january 6th insurrection photo hashes and you got yourself some pretty dystopian technology.

Wow, come to think of it, will the hash database on your device change when traveling between countries? A popular photo of two women kissing on your phone could be perfectly legal in the US, but suddenly get you jailed if you travel through Saudi Arabia and forget to delete it.
Depends on where the “terrible” is. People are happy to work around UI/UX issues so long as they can get the job done (chronic ergonomic issues notwithstanding perhaps) but anything “back end” or “low level” can have catastrophic implications for mere usability. It’s funny because we often seem to ascribe higher priorities to the more visible stuff.
Is BQN a near-incrementing of the letters in APL?

Is it pronounced "bacon"?
Yep, came here to say this. We buy looking at the grams, not the jar or tube.

Manufacturers actually pay for the volume of space used in stores. The more efficiently they use the space, the better. Having smaller jars or tubes for the same grams is a good thing!
This is definitely an 'added' risk they need to qualify - how they will stop any verification from leaking private images.

One would hope that such checks should be minimal and therefore performed by suitably qualified (and equally audited) personnel. As you allude, it is more likely that such work is outsourced in the same way that the manufacturing of the phone is.
this is false. it's only for photos uploaded to apple's cloud.

the tech runs locally, but only on those photos.
How unfortunate.
Can I ask why you chose Haskell for your webapps? I used Haskell for 18 months at a job a few years ago and found it was really awkward to find well-supported libraries for 'boring things' that pop up when dealing with a mildly complex webapp.
This seems like a good example of why scientists need to learn from the humanities when they apply their theories to history. There's lots about the physiology of lead poisoning and the chemistry of lead pipes, but also lots of references to Latin literature to show how people lived and what they did or didn't know.
A better solution ten years later might not be a solution at all when running a business. So it cannot be just open ended.

The point I take away from this more: poor planning and execution processes destroy value. It is not an "us" vs "them". Have clear responsibilities for removing internal/political blockages, for allowing testing, etc. How to manage new delays and unexpected issues? Who can decide on changes? Organizations can manage to hit target with a reasonable product/outcome.
The problem is that negotiations phase where the devs get screwed down on the “price”. This is of course a silly thing for management to do given they are paying by the hour anyway!
That's not the issue. The issue is that they have shipped spyware to my device. That's a massive breach of trust.

I suspect that this time next year, I'll still be on ios, despite my posturing. I'm certainly going to address icloud in the next few weeks - specifically, disusing it. However, I would be surprised if I'm still on ios a year or two after that.

What Apple has done here isn't horrible in the absolute sense. Instead, it's a massive betrayal of trust with minimal immediate intrusiveness; and yet, a giant klaxon that their platform dominance in terms of privacy is coming to an end
Th3yre getting downvoted because they seem somewhat intentionally obtuse.

For example; dragging home into the sidebar creates an easy way to get there. It’s also in the menu under “go”.

There are icon and “cover flow’ views that work for navigating images.

That “fake viewer” is the standard preview. It works reasonably well for most files, and you can install additional viewers.
The other issue here is this:

If Spyware Engine is allowed to be installed by some idiot with company in his hands to amplify his idiocy, what prevents another idiot with company in his hands to do the same?

And how about specially crafted 'normal' pictures sent to individual to trigger the system? Special mind would have a perfect tool to get some one down / put into the troubles.
Well, you know how bad it is, if they don't want you to find out.
> needed to give something to the governments

Why? do car companies feel also compelled to give your car's location to all the governments? There is no need for apple to do anything, it's a choice, they are doing tit-for-tat with governments. That's always nefarious
Who would back up their phone to the cloud if they were involved in illegal activities?

This is going to bite more innocent people through false positives than criminals who already know how to get away with these things.
Apple has the ability to do so[0]. I believe they have used it against malware in the past, but finding articles is proving to be complex.

Another solution for apple is to simply revoke the codesigning certificate that is used to sign the app, which will render the application un-runnable.

[0]: https://www.macrumors.com/2008/08/06/apples-ability-to-deact...
Is it? The article I read about it said it also includes photos saved on your iphone, even if they aren't uploaded to icloud.
The only challenge you describe is your own bigotry. Your stories do not match the experience of any immigrants I know, including my wife. I can’t imagine where in the US you would find “rural people” who have never seen a non-Caucasian. African-Americans and Mexicans have been in this country as long as white people.

One-year-old children don’t form meaningful sentences, not even in rural America where families eat at Arby’s and holler out slurs at the TV.

You can find bigots and racist people everywhere in the world, including among immigrants to America.
You can find technical details here:

https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Techni...
It’s like skeumorphism. It’s not ideal, but it’s a common or goal reference point that doesn’t need exhaustive explanation.
Well the counter argument is that shipping later also destroys value (because value can only actually start to be accumulated once a product has shipped).

But this article doesn't seem to address the obvious counter-point.

For instance, take the below:

> wouldn't you rather run a your customer's payments through code that is at least attempting to handle error conditions, rather than some happy path code that just assumes everything works?

But this doesn't address the obvious issue which is, there is value destroyed (or not created) by not allowing customers to pay you earlier.