skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> In this case Americans have chosen the suburbs in droves.

They've chosen their preferred option, given the current (meager) options. That doesn't mean people wouldn't choose walkable cities over suburbs---the option of walkable cities just functionally doesn't exist in the US for a middle income family.

And this isn't due to organic demand for suburban neighborhoods, either. In the US, central planning has had a major role in accelerating the development of suburbs. Tax incentives for home ownership were first rolled out during the New Deal, and these especially targeted single family homes. After the war, the dual-use civil-military interstate system was created and highways were subsidized which allowed neighborhood development far from the city center. Auto and petrochemical development were targeted for national security, which acted as a subsidy toward the gasoline-heavy suburban lifestyle. The 1970s energy crisis shifted US foreign policy toward stabilizing petrol prices, which has resulted in various military and CIA operations to that effect (Paul Wolfowitz was talking about securing oil in Iraq before 2nd Bush was even in office). Suburban homes in many cities consume more resources via public roads, water, sewer, electric than they pay in property taxes, but taxes are kept low for political reasons, because that's where voters live.

So there are quite a lot of extra-market forces that have shaped city planning. Now all of this has reached a scale where it is self-sustaining, but that doesn't mean people would have picked this route if the initial conditions were not so favorable.
They just have keys for the safety voucher for the suspect images. It's not entirely clear that the payload in the safety voucher is the only copy of the image or if this CSAM system is in addition to what happens today.
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Betteridge says no, what do ye with experience of management say?
Easier said than done. My Bay Area City is implementing city planning measures to reduce traffic fatalities; things like bike lane protectors and removing right-turn yield passages into a sharp right turn that forces drivers to be slower. You would not believe the amount of sheer vitriol from many folks....
FYI for anyone looking for a good android org app, I've been using and enjoying Orgzly. [1] Looks like it has a totally different UX than flathabits - I'm not sure how xenodium is managing habits in org. Orgzly mostly is a notebook (org file) and headline/todo/deadline property organizing tool.

[1] http://www.orgzly.com/
Ok so we’re going back to timestamps.

The wheel turns.
It looks like you need a car indeed. I grew up the way you live and just loved it when I first lived in a city where I didn't need a car. If you needed a bus/train to do your groceries I understand that you hated it, that's why I'd rather choose to stay at a walkable distance of everything.
A nice condo in Dallas currently goes for $400k with a $700/month HOA assessment.
What makes you think that Apple has a database of actual child sex abuse images? Does that feel like a thing you'd be OK with? "Oh, this is Jim, he's the guy who keeps our archive of sex abuse photographs here at One Infinite Loop" ? If you feel OK with that at Apple, how about at Facebook? Tencent? What about the new ten-person SV start-up would-be Facebook killer whose main founder had a felony conviction in 1996 for violating the Mann Act. Still comfortable?

Far more likely Apple takes a bunch of hashes from a third party in the law enforcement side of things (ie cops) and trust that the third party is definitely giving them hashes to protect against the Very Bad Thing that Apple's customers are worried about.

Whereupon what you're actually trusting isn't Tim Cook, it's a cop. I'm told there are good cops. Maybe all this is done exclusively by good cops. For now.

Now, I don't know about the USA, but around here we don't let cops just snoop about in our stuff, on the off-chance that by doing so they might find kiddie porn. So it should be striking that apparently Apple expects you to be OK with that.
The point of homomorphic encryption is the middle can do things without decrypting. And Apple's system doesn't use homomorphic encryption.
Is this an allusion to an actual occurrence?
They are called "no-see-ums" by the locals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatting
I stumbled across an S3 bucket with a set of historical radio interview archives dating from the 1950s to the 2010s, nearly 1,000 individual recordings (not all full episodes, some are outtakes or short edits).

None have the date indicated, either recording or air.

Their a pretty fascinating cross-section of history, but the task of identifying when and who each recording concerns is tedious.

The total set does correspond to a publicly-accessible interface, though that itself only provides access to a small subset of the total archive. (Likely because the hosting organisation is itself trying to identify and date the segments.)

I can understand how early in the project this might have been acceptable, but after a decade or five, you'd think the host or producers might have had the inspiration to clearly identify their work.

"Hello, I'm X, it's DATE, this is PROGRAM, and I'm talking today to GUEST(S)".
We never went to malls as everything there was out of my budget. I was also afraid that they would throw us out because we couldn’t speak English

Reading this breaks my heart. In a few weeks India beings an year-long celebration to mark the country’s 75th Independence Day. And yet people feel discriminated because the don’t speak English.
Quite frequently not. Raw audio exists. (See my earlier response.)
> single-variable polynomials that produce an infinite number of different values, which don't all share a common factor, but which are all composite numbers

How about x^2 ?
The new and improved swatting.
You have the exact same level of privacy as before. Before, the images were scanned in the cloud. Now they are being scanned as they exit your phone. In that way, the avoidance protocol is the same, namely

> I can choose to not upload and avoid the technology

They are not scanning your entire photo library at rest.

Could they? Sure. But they’ve had the hardware to do this for years, so they could have done so silently at any time.

This entire saga has been one of poor messaging and rampant speculation.
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My experience is that this is a good thing for shareholders. The current qualifications -- part of a network -- aren't actually very merit-based or constructive. Boards composed of rich, white, Anglo-Saxon males tend to not understand customers or employees very well.

A bigger step forward would be international representation. Companies mess up or completely miss markets like the billion plus people in Africa, the billion plus people in India, or the billion plus people in Muslim-majority countries. Even nominal international representation would be huge.

People tend to fetishize the types of people on boards, but I've worked with a fair number, and the skills which they have -- being able to become a board member through complex political and networking games -- aren't actually very well-aligned with maximizing shareholder value.
> And Apple's system doesn't use homomorphic encryption.

Do you work for Apple?
I read the technical summary.[1]

[1] https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Techni...
See the “Federal CSAM Law” section here:

https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/01/earn-it-act-how-b...

> Section 2258A of the law imposes duties on online service providers, such as Facebook and Tumblr and Dropbox and Gmail. The law mandates that providers must report CSAM when they discover it on their services, and then preserve what they’ve reported (because it’s evidence of a crime).
No common factors at all between any of the values, or no factor common to all the values?

The second is pretty straightforward, e.g. (x+1)*(x+3) produces 3, 8, 15, 24, 35, 48, 63, 80, 99, 120, 143, 168, 195, 224, 255, 288, 323, 360, 399, etc. for x = 0, 1, 2, ....
A lot of cities could take this lesson. Sweeping the streets, picking up litter, keeping weeds trimmed would make a lot of urban areas look a lot nicer.
It does not imply a false zero positive rate at all, because the hashes used are by necessity fuzzy, and even a completely benign picture can trigger a match.

Now they're saying that if the match is a false positive, it'll be screened by the human reviewer. But that means there's some stranger there potentially looking at my private photos (and, by the way, I wonder which country they'll be located in?). That's already completely and utterly unacceptable - you don't have to wait for any "future complications".
> One of the most popular Dutch vacations is biking around the country and camping instead of staying at hotels. It’s quite far from American car culture in that regard.

American car culture is to go on vacation to drive up camping spots. You can't actually camp in many places without a car. There isn't really public transit from Seattle to Mt. Ranier national park, for example, and the distances is too far and the terrain too hilly for just biking it (the Netherlands is lucky to be flat, in this regard).
Japan has national zoning policies that allow for much greater housing density and incredible public transit in comparison to the US.

I’ve heard there’s also some cultural component where older houses aren’t valued at highly but I can’t really speak to its validity.
In practice, how do you type the pictographs when coding?
I feel like in the US, public pressure can result in action against corporations that are killing people. The government has the legal framework to bring these types of cases, but may not always find every case on its own. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and all that.
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Apple has a shitty record wrt free speech. Apple hates free speech. Apple likes “curation”. They canned Parler in a heartbeat; they also police the App Store for anything naughty.
Who determines whether something is CSAM? How do you or I know that every single one of those images actually is CSAM? How do we know if the FBI or CIA or CCP adds hashes of innocent pics in order to pin a crime against someone?
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Housing is cheap in Tokyo. They just build a lot of it. And, contrary to vestigial American beliefs about tiny Japanese apartments, the typical Tokyo apartment is now more spacious than those of major American cities like New York. And, because they build so much, the typical apartment there is new and nice, instead of old and busted.
Sometimes the slippery slope is not a fallacy, but the natural consequence of seeking more control. This feature can be horribly misused in the future, for example, to find people who have sent/received/downloaded Tiannanmen pictures, because instant messaging pictures can be automatically added to your albums.

You can't trust a feature whose only impediment from being abused in the future is such pinky promise.
Apple reveals new efforts to fight child abuse imagery
> ... for comprehensive insurance,...

That's a thing that blew me away about Teslas, the whole deal with insurance. Maybe it'll be somewhat solved in the upcoming F-150 (which has the big advantage of being a decent whole-house backup power supply, useful in a place where the power company shuts us off whenever it's windy).

I guess it's also worth considering that the technical changes are still coming pretty quickly. Capital goods pricing combined with consumer electronics obsolescence.

Honestly, I'd probably rather just spend the $50k on a Chevelle SS.
I remember having ~0 friends, not worth the risk. Trite, but that's my thought process.
Are you going to cater to other minorities? Asians, LatinX, American Indians?
The worst thing about it is that CP possession is a strict liability crime in most jurisdictions. Meaning that prosecution doesn't have to prove intent - if they can find it on your machine, you're guilty regardless of how it got there.
There are numerous existing controls, most of which integrate with the switch rather than the bulb.

Photocells / IR motion sensors turn lights on or off as ambient light levels fall or presence of a human is detected.

Audio switches turn on or off with a sound ("The Clapper", etc.)

Timers can be used to turn circuits on or off on a set schedule. This may not be ideal, but can work for general cases.

There are remotes which work based on a handheld control and either IR or RF frequencies.

All of these are backwards-compatible with old technology, are tried and proven, and will continue to function for years.

"Smart Home" implementations remain 99.99996% crap.
Is anecdotal evidence is a solid basis for public policy?
Wait until they start scanning offline photos, because this is designed with the intention to.
The technical summary describes the detection system, not the rest of the product. The rest of iCloud photos is not end-to-end encrypted. If Apple was planning to introduce end-to-end encryption for iCloud photos then they should have announced it at the same time.
Does anyone know about a good write up of this discussion in Japanese?
He posted a follow up about error handling in Zig that I thought was interesting: https://ayende.com/blog/194466-A/looking-into-odin-and-zig-m...

I’ve seen the “clean up errors yourself” argument before, but, like the author, I don’t think it holds water. Often the correct response to errors is to panic() or pass it up the stack so the caller can deal with it or—more likely—panic() itself.
It should be obvious but when the representation in media reflects the representation in society so your population demographics are reflected in the media, not the audience demographics reflected in the media. Then you have a mass media that accurately reflects the demographics of your society.

I really hope you are genuinely curious cuz whenever someone starts the thing with "to be honest but" or "honest question" or "I'm genuinely curious" I often feel kind of scared that they're just trying to troll and trap you in their own belief system where they've already decided the. As in like if someone really has a genuine question they shouldn't have to say they do to prove that it should be obvious when they say it kind of seems like compensating for some sort of deception. Not saying you're doing that just saying that's how I feel when I see that kind of stuff sometimes.
This article focusses too much on the individual case, and not enough on the fact that Apple will need multiple matches to report someone. Images would normally be distributed in sets I suspect, so it is going to be easy to detect when someone is holding an offending set because of multiple matches. I don't think Apple are going to be concerned with a single hit. Here in the news offenders are reported as holding many thousands of images.
One of my chores as a kid was clearing out stagnant water in our backyard if it rained; if someone didn’t during peak season, you would immediately notice a massive increase in mosquitoes in the next days.
Actually, Niagara County is surprisingly temperate--warmer and much less snowy than Buffalo and the south towns. It's been famous for apples, pears, and stone fruit since the 19th century; we even have some vineyards. But yeah, maybe we'll add figs and bananas.
During holidays, visitors can mean many more than two additional cars per family. Living in that building means choosing not to entertain friends and family, or irritating the crap out of your neighbors by taking up the parking. If they're lucky, they'll be communicative and work out parking custody, but more than likely it'll be a resentful petty mess.
That's great, hopefully it will make cities more walkable as a result.
We recently scored a rental. The ad was up for 2 hours and had 50 applicants. Any rentals in this market get 400 people, each day, trying to rent the home. Googling news stories shows this same scenario playing out across the the US. Businesses want employees but without somewhere for employees to live, it's unclear how they can possibly find new hires.

So yea. It's a housing problem.
Does this mean you are attempting to use an IP range block to avoid this "service" while continuing to use Apple hardware? How does such a block deal with say, Apple software conveniently "routing-around" what appears to be an "authoritarian government's firewall?"
How is reading a library’s source code FASTER than StackOverflow?
Then ask yourself why they shipped this scanning on the client-side. This is the first step towards normalizing client-side scanning of encrypted content across the entire device.
> Don’t you have a way to mock your services? Or simple compose files for local integration?

now your dev env is very different from how production works. Problems that show up in production won't easily be reproducible in dev. And if you are testing in this dev env, you aren't really testing, so implicitly turn to testing in production!
Make an actual argument. HN is getting a bit pathetic.

Did you make an actual argument? What's pathetic is accusing anyone who disagrees with you of supporting child exploitation. None of the people I care about who were victims of some kind of abuse would have been helped by having spyware on phones. I don't make a habit of swearing on HN, nor of engaging with people who argue and accuse in bad faith, so I'll leave it at that.
I don't have an opinion on this, but how much of that is due to subsidies for the traditional energy industry? Make no mistake, electric vehicles get a lot of subsidies but I imagine governments around the world want energy independence, so they're probably throwing lots of money to help the industry.
yeah, my kneejerk reaction to the tweet was "Mark@FB has entered the chat"
>Source? That is not true as far as I'm aware.

https://www.macobserver.com/analysis/apple-scans-uploaded-co...

>What do you expect them to do with they receive a national security letter?

They can't do _anything_ with an NSL on your data because they don't have the encryption keys. Without this feature, they control the key. With this feature, you control the key and they only gain access when >N tokens cryptographically indicate hits on the CSIM database. Those have to come from _your_ device. And those tokens only give access to the data in question.
The point that being friends with police will be beneficial to you - Means there's a scenario where the inverse is also true. Not being friends with police is used to your detriment.

Police Officers exist in a career field that is riddled with incidents of Tunnel Vision. The sibling comment posts a video about not talking to police from a law professor. I'd heed that advice.
The most common policy responses in this thread are suggesting that the solution is to allow more building by relaxing zoning restrictions and lowering the amount of public input on new development, ie greater property rights.

How are you not for that if you believe what you stated in your last sentence?
Did you learn the same thing—that E2E encryption doesn’t need to be broken for this to work?

The only event in which Apple can gain access to your content is if you happen to have multiple CSAM matches; then they can access only the matching content, and only then if it’s manually confirmed by a human to be CSAM an action is taken.

The issue is if this type of matching is done for other purposes than CSAM; and unfortunately they gave themselves legal permission to do it back in 2019. That’s what we should object to, not CSAM reporting.
Yes, they can identify you. First, you can always delete all of that data at any time in Siri Settings.

Second, starting in IOS 15 with an A12 or newer, the processing is moving on device. Here is an excerpt from https://developer.apple.com/ios/:

"iOS 15 introduces even more privacy controls to help protect user information. With on-device speech recognition, audio of Siri requests is now processed entirely on iPhone by default, and performance improves significantly. Mail Privacy Protection stops senders from learning whether an email has been opened, and hides IP addresses so senders can’t learn a user’s location or use it to build a profile on them. App Privacy Report offers an overview of how apps use the access that has been granted to location, photos, camera, microphone, and contacts in the last seven days, and which other domains are contacted."

Here is another discussion:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/7/22522993/apple-siri-on-dev...
I grew up on the outskirts of Chicago. Mostly built in the 1920s or 1950s. Everything you need is within a one mile walk, even Home Depot. Cinema closed down but Walmart opened up about two miles away. Plenty of street parking, alley garages, and lots of nice amenities. Only moderate rat load.

I think this is the type of neighborhood people like, when the schools are good, at least.

Lots of neighborhoods used to be like this, though usually not big box stuff. Used to be bodegas, fruit markets, small hardware shops, tailor, dry cleaners, etc.

Until the mid 80s to early 90s there were neighborhood Sears and Wiebolts as well. Wiebolts went under in 1986.

Elderly folks could give up their car and age in place as long as they could get up the porch ramps and such. Didn't need to go to home, and homes need not be far from neighborhoods. Plenty of housing options for all stripes.
Why not just put a faux divider in the same can to appease the masses?
When I moved to LA, I did the following calculation.

Average number of cars per person, 2/3 x Number of people in greater LA area, 16M = 10M. 10M cars x average parking spot is 7ft x 15, 105 sq ft = 1 billion sq ft. 1 billion sq ft to square miles = 36 square miles. That's a square 6 miles on a side. Just to park the cars once. There is at least 3x that number of spots in the city. A hundred square miles of parking. No kidding. Also, the city of LA maintains 5000+ miles of street parking.

The scale is mind boggling.

And the cost is astronomical. The cost of real estate is estimated at $2.7 million per acre. Those hundred square miles are worth close to $200 billion.
you're judging everything from a human point of view but that's not what I'm doing here. It's awesome because she achieved what she wanted to achieve using whatever means necessary and so your moral fear about this comes from the idea that it's somehow wrong to beat up your own mother. Sure in our society it would be--what you're really going to take it as like I'm saying yeah that's a good thing? Haha--but in the monkey society that's how things work. And we're not that different to monkeys you know violence kind of rules at the end of the day when you look at military technology and so on. but the other side of it maybe the mother was really abusive mother or just was a really terrible monkey person. but I'm not assuming that I'm just assuming that this girl did what she needed to do to get to the top in that monkey society and that is what is awesome truly fucking awesome. I didn't care about your human morals applied to this monkey situation. Get out of here! :)
I try not to get emotional, but part of me thinks if death penalty were applicable to such crimes it would be an extraordinarily pragmatic decision. The history of chemicals damaging American lives due to corruption is long and sordid. Many of these chemicals, if improperly classified, can ruin an order of magnitude more lives than any serial killer.

It can be rather shocking and disturbing to remind oneself exactly how fragile our bodies are to even the tiniest amounts of certain chemicals, particularly in vitro.
Apple’s New ‘Child Safety’ Initiatives, and the Slippery Slope