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I can tell you what it is, he's got some requirement he needs to fulfill (like, say, ensuring password strength) and he's figured out some way to satisfy it by analyzing all of the plain-text passwords. He refuses to give his reasons and refuses to back down because those are parts of the personality flaws which have led him down this road to start with. People who never accept they are wrong, never accept criticism, and never give up on bad ideas: those are the people who hold on to bad ideas forever. How do you think incompetence is maintained in the face of a world filled with people hostile to it? It takes a strong defense mechanism.
> and a bigger problem is that more than any other language I'm familiar with Java suffers from the problem of not being able to see enough ideas in a given amount of source code.

This is not an issue with Java. It's an issue with the programmer. How are you going to cope with assembly language listings? Blame assembly language?
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My take: More or less constant (RIM, Samsung, HTC) but Nokias profits transfered to Apple, LG and Sony giving up.
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That's pretty unfair to PG since he's not involved in AirBnB's support.
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IBM has a history of using patents to extort money:

http://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.html
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Isn't the Search button useless as well? :D I suppose the only reason either is there is familiarity...
And on the other hand Intellectual Ventures set out to provide a mechanism for preventing patent abuse by letting small companies use IVs patents to protect themselves yes have turned out to be the biggest trolls going.

It's all supposing and it could go either way but early intentions only count for so much.

I'd like it if Google held their principals but it's hard to look at them and not see their principals eroding just a little bit over time and wonder if this might be one of them.

After all, they have a relatively weak portfolio right now and you could argue that their lack of offensive action to date is as much a case of them bringing a knife to a gun fight as a matter of principal.
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>The truth is, we know very little about nutrition

We know what you're consuming doesn't qualify as nutrition.

Dude, you eat garbage. This isn't a hippy-crunchy-vegan thing; the "food" you eat is trash.

If you want to sooth your sweet tooth, go to your grocery store and buy a metric fuckton of berries. They're in season. Leave your strawberries and blackberries in the fridge, and throw your raspberries (they don't keep) and blueberries (they're fantastic frozen) in the freezer. Grab some bananas and milk while you're there.

Make a smoothy like so: 1 banana, 4-5 strawberries, a bunch of blue-, black-, and raspberries, put 'em in the blender. Fill the cracks with milk. Blend. Drink. You'll have to balance the berries for taste, as raspberries and commercial blackberries are sour; strawberries, blueberries, wild (ripe) blackberries, and bananas are sweet.

Do that, and you can satisfy your sweet tooth and get loads of good vitamins and whatnot in you. It's also easier than walking to the store, and not terribly expensive.

Remember those blueberries you put in the freezer? Next time you want candy or chocolate or something, munch on them. They're delicious (big ones are better).

One last note: stop pretending that your diet is okay. It really, really isn't. Your body is operating in spite of what you're putting into it, not because of it.
Airbnb is one of the good ideas that came out of the SF/SV area that wasn't really means tested and a cock-up like this was bound to occur. It places an incredible amount of trust in the hosts and guests. This is alright I guess for some places but definitely not others.

I assume that if Airbnb got its start in Detroit, for example, and not San Francisco then safety and security would have a different context. For me, when I was in university I left the door to my apartment unlocked, a lot. I knew everyone in our building and had so many people coming and going from my place that it was easier that way. Plus, being a broke college student the most expensive thing in the apartment was the bottles of liquor :-). But this is definitely not something I would do in any other city.

EJ assumed that keeping valuables in a locked closet would be enough. Severely overestimating the role a locked closet plays in a house. Being a traveller myself I am constantly worried about the security of my house. Renting it out to a stranger with my valuables still inside would drive me nuts.

I like the idea of airbnb but I haven't used them because they don't have listings for the places I go. And the thought of having to move all the expensive stuff out of my place, pay for storage, and move it back when I arrive is a bigger hassle than I can deal with.
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This seems an exceptionally interesting & exciting idea. Is this the first time something like this has been run institutionally in an emerging economy or developing nation?
You're right - DNA methylation is inherited (see epigenetics). So DNA alone does not give you enough information.
The notion that she is somehow out to get AirBnB or "hell bent on revenge" is ridiculous. She saw the facts being misrepresented by AirBnB for their own benefit, and she wanted to set the record straight. If someone is skewing facts about their interactions with you in a public forum to make themselves look good, wouldn't you be a little bothered?
as one smart commenter http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2820778 has finally got it (and as usually - once somebody was able to get it and explained to the rest of us, it seems obvious ) - PTSD
Incompetent people in the security field really need to be called out like this.

Incompetent developers generally only hurt the company; incompetent security professionals hurt every single customer as well.
he did with one billion dollars worth of pressure on him
The amount of money at stake is not an excuse. Sorry.

[…] and are willing to do whatever is necessary to make it go away.
It's not going to go away, and he and ABnB have massively compounded the problem by wanting to "make it go away", instead of dealing with it in a humane and sensitive manner.
Interesting. I checked the manual after my post above and they do execute sines entirely on the GPU, however you do still need to jump in and out for most coding. It does invalidate my point for his example, though (but it doesn't invalidate any of the other points).
OK, it seems like it may have been an oversight (as in, not to hide anything or subvert someone else). The (over-)reaction by RMS may be a bit too harsh, when a simple README or something might suffice.

Every church has to have its pope, though ...

Edit: a simple README to point the issue in older tarballs might suffice -- though the issue has to be fixed going forward, no question on that.
Unless Jobs personally wrote the stack in Facetime all I can think of is patents, patents, patents.
How was MS had a back against a wall? They went after Android phones for patent infringement. They extorted money from Amazon for Kindle. And now they suing Barnes & Noble as well. And they have spread FUD about the Linux kernel violating their patents but have so far refused to be specific about what patents they are talking about.

It seems to me that MS is as much predator as prey.
Be happy you don't get raped. If you do, we'd enjoy having a coffee with you.

This should absolutely be AirBnB's marketing pitch.
Has any work been done to solve reusing passwords with homomophic encryption? (this is a scheme that allows you to perform operations on the encrypted text without decrypting it).
> This is what insurance in our society is for. Get some.

No homeowner's insurance will cover an Airbnb rental. Hell, finding a lease which permits an Airbnb rental would be tough, let alone finding someone to insure an apartment where strangers show up and pay you for it. You must know this, because it's been discussed to death all over this issue.

> Your next stay at Airbnb may very well be a scene out of the movie Hostel. It is just as likely however that it may happen at the next apartment you rent, the next hotel you stay at, or the next ski lodge.

This logic is incredibly faulty. This is the same as saying "you might get ripped off meeting a stranger on craigslist. It is just as likely however that it may happen at a Best Buy." The structure of airbnb lends itself toward antisocial behavior far, far more than a hotel. That kind of comparison is just deceitful.

In fact, to turn your "point" around, I find it more likely you're an airbnb employee/pg fanboy shilling than EJ being out to destroy airbnb. You've demonstrated complete disregard for logic and facts to defend airbnb in this situation. She's just told a story.
No, what's even worse is that when a company pays billions of dollars for patents, they have to use them otherwise the investment is worthless.

Google may have a no-evil policy on patents for the time being, but the future will be quite different. Microsoft also used to acquire patents for defensive purposes only. Look at them now.
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I doubt I'm the only one that was interested in using AirBNB with their growing traction and successes.

No way will that happen now. It's hard to imagine how they could have handled this worse.
Click this link instead. He left the ?dl=1 on there.

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I wonder how CouchSurfing managed such issues. I am sure it must have happened with CouchSurfing too. I know that they have ratings for members and past history. I guess you can get an impression of the trustworthiness. But then this sort of thing can happen too.
I would say it depends on what you get done. That seems to be the theme of these responses.

Hope that motivates you to take advantage of your situation, since you're already in a working relationship with a talented person.
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Even if Henry Ford did say that, it's still an if.

i.e. Henry Ford did NOT ask his customers, at best he guessed at what they might respond.

I wrote about this here: http://contrast.ie/blog/faster-horses (Which was previously picked up by HN)
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From http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/195157/exposing_mcd...

Here's a fun fact: their "chicken" is actually, at most, 44 percent chicken. The rest is mostly corn, salt, preservatives, and a few other interesting nasties.

If you can come up with a better source I'm happy to consider it.
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Note the "in essence". They are not actually distributing binary blobs, they are distributing generated code made with a parser generator which they are not distributing, and they argue that this is equivalent of distributing binary code for all practical purposes, as the user "may neither fix
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>>It's hard to imagine how they could have handled this worse.

At least they had the foresight to take down the snarky "nobody'll steal a grand piano" comment off their FAQ.
I increasingly see posts on HN about vim, rather than emacs. I like emacs, but wonder whether it's worth trying to use vim instead of emacs. I honestly couldn't give a damn whether some nerds like to get their knickers in a twist re. which editor is best.
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(Disclaimer: I'm not saying that she's lying, and I see no element that makes me believe that she lies. I don't even see any concrete element pointing to a conspiracy, I'm merely pondering how credible it might be).

> what would EJ gain by lying?

AirBnB has the potential to become very disruptive for the whole hostel industry. This means that there are people, some of them with deep pockets, some of them less than honest, and some of them both, who really want them to fail.

What's AirBnB's main challenge? It needs people to trust each other, in a society which promotes mistrust. The easiest way to destroy them is to prevent this trust from being created and maintained. If you wanted to destroy them in a shady way, your best bet would be to create a smear campaign based on a traumatizing violation, exactly such as what allegedly happened to this woman.

Moreover, if you were to create such a smear campaign, your best bet wouldn't be to have an accomplice playing the victim: it would be to choose a perfect genuine victim (likable, vocal, blogging, emotionally sensitive, and with good writing skills), and send real thugs actually destroy her home in the most traumatizing way, including psychopathic "nice" e-mails sent while wrecking the place havoc.
Airbnb's Terms & Privacy section states that "We are not involved in the actual face-to-face contact between users," have "no control over the conduct of our users or the truth or accuracy of the information that users post," and " do not investigate any user's reputation, conduct, morality, criminal background, or verify the information that any user submits to the Site."

It's a business, they're supposed to be money driven. Although it's sad to see someone abuse the system, she agreed to those terms when she put her apartment up there. The owners aren't obligated to recompense the lady.
Why pink ties? And why the math department (unless it's the same as CS)?
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> all the potential social advantages of being roughly grouped by age

Actually, from what I've seen the one-room-schoolhouse concept is the best. You don't have a single age-group preying on each other in a lord-of-the-flies situation.

True socialization comes from interacting with a reasonable sample of society, in its natural state - such as being surrounded by people of all ages interacting with each other. If we ship kids off the age-segregated prisons every day they become hyper-focused on the views of their peers and vulnerable to pressure.
Well, you didn't qualify your original statement.

So, if I hear 3 people making a whole load of racist comments in a bus, but not directed at a specific person, should I ignore it?

I'm Indian by birth, and have lived through a lot of racism. I'm not inferior, and I would never have gone begging for help, but I'd sure have appreciated people intervening at times, even when I wasn't under direct attack.

In the UK, women are typically paid 15% less than men for equivalent jobs. Should I say nothing about this?
Upvote - the CEO really comes off as a used car salesman here and serious d-bag.
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It's a flat lie as well.

He doesn't know, and can't know, everyone commenting to HN. At best hes fabricating. I was going to top post that but checked first to see if anyone had surfaced that line.

The auditor is an idiot and feels cornered.

Also: "I'm going to assume you do not have PCI installed on your servers".

PCI is an auditing standard. Not something "you have installed on your servers".

And I guess I'm getting too far ahead of myself, because the OP comments on this in his serverfault posting.

Classic! "PCI SSC have responded and are investigating him and the company. "

I'd say samarudge did a bang-on job here.
That security auditor could give a lot of the guys featured on The Daily WTF a good run for their money.
It's made with the same "chicken", which is blended, has fillers added, then pressed into breast-like shapes. It's not at all healthy: http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/foods-from-mcdonalds/623...

An 8 oz can of coke has 142 calories, all from sugar. That means you're consuming 1562, or 75% of your daily recommended caloric intake from sugar alone. That's fucking terrible, man. Stop doing that.
They don't use it probably because it's too damn hard to find. From the Mac, Facetime is another app, double-click in your dock or application folder. From the iphone, not nearly as simple. First you have to open the phone app then select a contact, then select Facetime.

Unlike Skype, you have no indication that this person has a facetime compatible phone. Just to get it to call the desktop is problematic because my phone has my phone number as the username and my PC has my email as the username so your never sure where a facetime call is going to end up, and that is if it picks up.
I don't know about in Germany, but in the UK it's common for contracts to have a clause ban subletting, but in practice it's considered unenforceable. Also unless the landlord has been through the formal eviction process the tenant probably still has a legal right to the property.

From when I lived in Berlin it seemed subletting rental apartments wasn't uncommon. Subletting where you live has been common practice in Germany for a long time predating the rise of AirBnB, etc. Typically on classified ad sites or through specialist agencies. I've seen stores like yours before from a few years back discussed on toytown (an expat forum for people living in germany), so it's not just an AirBnB thing.
I've read that some schools are asking their students to do this. IMO, do it.

It costs nothing if you open source your code. If you never link to your account anywhere, it's almost a private account. That is, unless you've made something like the next Google in one of your classes...in which case you should probably just start a business with it ;)

I've been out of college for 5 years now and there are projects I wish I still had around. Some of them were pretty elaborate and complex and it'd be nice to point back to them. Too bad I lost the code in various hard drive crashes. I've taken a few sidestreets away from CS so getting back into it now means I have to learn and do a lot to show for myself.
Inconceivable!

Very good point on idiots causing huge amounts of trouble.

Ouch, thanks for reminding me.
No, I think you have captured what many may be thinking quite nicely.
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Can anyone replicate the Stemmer bug (7070134 / first link)?

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So bad, she's traumatized and he's trying to steamroll her just like he has everything else probably in the last couple years...Ooops! It was time to be a human. Should have let the CS rep keep talking to the woman.
"And diet coke will not cause your body to have the same insulin response as sugar based drinks."

This has recently been shown to be untrue.

Recent research on rats and humans shows that drinking diet drinks gives the body an expectation of calories that it then does not receive. Perhaps due to a Pavlovian response but physically real nonetheless, the digestive system switches on and gears up to digest. When no calories are received the body reacts by demanding the calories it missed out on: an effect very similar to to the 'insulin' response.

In lab tests: rats fed water + food kept a steady weight; sweeteners + food put on weight; sugar-water + food lost weight.
Isn't Airbnb's reaction a normal one? Wouldn't anyone do the same if it could have adverse effects on their current round of funding?
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True, but the rest of the point remains: you don't know the rest of the message and how well she's presenting it. That particular quoted phrase may have annoyed her so much, that it doesn't really matter anymore what the rest of the email said. Even though an objective outsider would say the email was otherwise decent and acceptable.

What I'm saying, and why I'm responding, is that I'm seeing classic lynch mob behavior: people are out with their pitchforks, making all kinds of sweepings statements about what is happening, based on very little actual information. You are making rather bold assertions about someone based on only that quote. Doesn't that strike you as perhaps a bit rash?
I have to agree with you.

If someone falls over in the street, you probably ask if they're okay. If someone worse happens to them because your website failed to make someone safe, then you don't tell them you'd "enjoy meeting" them.
They already have host and guest reviews and feedback. Granted, most people are new to the system, and don't have feedback. As an AirBNB host, I screen potential customers all the time, and definitely seeing positive reviews from others is helpful.
So, by that logic, if I did get raped, I should be happy I didn't get tortured and killed, right?

Basically, nothing should ever bother me, because there's always something worse that could happen.
> Your idea of "unethical" (to say the least of good business sense) is markedly different from mine.

I'm sure it'd be more profitable (and thus good business sense) to treat customers better based on the publicity they have. But do you really consider that ethical?

> Phone books? How archaic.

I wondered if someone would nitpick that. :)

But do you remember when lists of people's name and address were common and people weren't all chicken-little about it? I wonder if Terminator changed that with its phone-book directed killing spree.
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Try googling for "craigslist murder" or "gumtree stabbing", crimes happen. The classified industry is still alive. Foursquare and Twitter stalking didn't kill either of those products.

The London Metropolitan police typically deal with 50-100 crimes related to online classified ads a year.

People are incredibly poor at judging risks so things like this get blown out of proportion. You need to look at the context and compare against other risks. For example what's the risk of your house get burgled if you go on holiday and leave it empty for a few weeks ?
Yes, at least that post has numbers - with 44% I guess it's fair to say that McNuggets are not very chicken-like. My point was that the GP didn't offer content that supported that conclusion, but instead only gave the illusion by listing a bunch of ingredients without providing proportions.
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None taken, I meant it would depend on how he approaches the situation. You may want to pursue an ivy league education to overcome the handicap or do something remarkably different to achieve the same result. What I meant was, the answer to his question depends completely on the choice he makes.

Its hard for any one person to give a conclusive answer here.
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