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Google is talking about both, and google refused to even TALK to microsoft about joining one of the groups bidding on patents that google is now complaining about.

The claim that this is MSFT PR spin is based on the presumption that MSFT offered google bad terms, but the email makes it clear they were proposing talking about joining the group-- there were no terms yet.

Plus its pretty much impossible for there to have been bad terms. This is why competitors like Apple and RIMM can join the same group. If google wasn't going to get what they want out of the deal there would be no incentive to contribute.

Joining a group and paying a fraction of the bid is always cheaper than bidding against that same group and having to pay the whole bid.

The only reason you wouldn't want to join such a group is if you wanted to use the patents offensively.
It was an offer to talk, not terms, as is made clear in the email. Your point is lying dead in a ditch.
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Common fallacy: personifying "the top N%" as if it were some mostly static set of people -- hard for anyone else to break in, rare that anyone falls out once they make it in. The old class system anxiety.

In reality, the further you get towards the top, the harder it gets to stay there:

The composition of the very top income groups changed dramatically over time. Less than half (39 percent or 42 percent depending on the measure) of those in the top 1 percent in 1996 were still in the top 1 percent in 2005. Less than one-fourth of the individuals in the top 1/100th percent in 1996 remained in that group in 2005. [1]

Here's another study with similar results across all income brackets. [2] None of the brackets are very stable; people move around quite a bit.

Or, we could just sit around reading collections of personal anecdotes. Seriously, why is this article on the front page?

[1] http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/206340741....

[2] http://books.google.com/books?id=lhiIyq8ylUMC&lpg=PA146&...
Yes, and for good reason. I have seen suggestions elsewhere on the internet that SICP be taught in Python and other languages, and have even seen "ports" of parts of the book to these other languages. But SICP is by now part of a family of textbooks from MIT courses (CLRS and Walter Rudin's Principles of Mathematical Analysis come to mind) that have been utilized and perfected and picked apart and cited for so long that they now are accepted as the "right way". In essence, this is why UC Berkeley's decision is such a sad one. SICP is a classic, and I would go so far as to state that it is beyond critique, in the sense that it does what it sets out to do to the point of perfection.
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Ex-MSFT employee here, enjoying the fact that I can comment on HN on MSFT legal affairs for once :).

I love Frank.X.Shaw's move here (hiring him from Waggner Edstorm was one of MSFT's best moves). Google is essentially trying to spin a situation where they were invited to be a part of a bid as a anti-competitive move. I'm slightly surprised that Google didn't see this coming - Drummond must have known that any public spat would lead to MSFT digging up any email threads between the two companies, especially those which make it seem like MSFT is trying to reach out to Google.
Generally speaking, I do less than 20 hours of paid client work per week. On the other hand, I spend a significant amount of time reading CS material and working on personal projects.
Yes, but most of the time direct manipulation is king, so I hold that as the best solution.
"Sorry Google but we offered to collude with you and you turned us down, so we had to collude against you"

Is this how rotten Microsoft has become? They don't even grasp what they are being accused of.

EDIT: I really wish people would reply with their opinion rather than just downvoting. Or at least do both. I thought it was an interesting observation that I haven't seen anyone make: Google complains about Microsoft's ethics and they respond with a point about strategy. Do they even understand the difference?
Interesting that he felt the need to change to either Gnome3 or XFCE. Why not keep using Gnome2 if it works for him? If enough people would keep using Gnome2 it probably could be forked like KDE3 was forked (although I'm not sure if Trinity actually survived)
He has accepted an order of summary punishment, so at most it'll be a fine. It might not even be that, depending on how serious the prosecution will see it.
Just tried again. It's brutally slow. I have never scrolled with two fingers before but that worked.
Could somebody shed some light as to what kind of patents that Android is allegedly violating. I am curious as to whether they are "real" innovations or something akin to Amoazon's 1-click.
I don't think anybody(or any union for that matter) will stop working just like that. Especially considering the fact that time is equally crucial for them.

Unions are needed to a extent, In my country(India), I would say unions are the only savior people in those professions have. As, if they are wronged in some way traditional way of approaching the courts takes years to get justice.

But coming to the larger point, in societies throughout the world hard work isn't fashionable. The default assumption is that somehow only bright, smart and intelligent people have the monopoly to be rich. Dumb, hardworking rich people doesn't even go well below peoples throats. When you see some one poor, meticulously working hard building a career,growing rich by savings/investment over years and compare the same with some one who was originally rich and intelligent but has now lost significant fortune, career and other stuff because of the laxed attitude, over comfort and over spending(spend thrifts). Often the first guy (originally poor but now rich by hard work) is considered purely lucky or at most 'time is on his side' kind of arguments.

A rich cab driver or a truck driver isn't something that goes down well in many societies.

Truck drivers other manual labor workers do a lot of work, take bigger risks(in terms of all aspects). They have their own careers, retirement option et al to consider. Therefore I believe what your parent poster wrote is very correct.
I believe reaching to Google from MS was a planned move. And it worked.
The last time someone tried that in a big way was MSOffice. Remember the paperclip? People's reaction was so violently negative everyone has been scared to try it again.
Sorry to disappoint. I have done a few A/B tests in my time, but that doesn't necessarily mean I have a comparable that I can share for any element which could possibly be A/B tested.

I would also caution you that, hypothetically assuming I had a comparable here, I might be a little hesitant to say "An A/B test in June 2010 of the behavior of elementary school teachers on summer holiday ready to get their Back to School Bingo started is a great way to predict the behavior of poor startup geeks contemplating a recurring billing arrangement."

The point of A/B testing isn't to anoint someone as the local genius on design and conversion optimization. The takeaway -- over and over and over again -- is that your local genius is routinely wrong about applying their old experience or intuition to new problems.

People pay me good money for advice on things like this question. I give answers, appropriately couched as "My best guess as to how this will play out". A lot of them whiff when exposed to actual customers.
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These accusations are almost like patent bids. Google strikes first but Microsoft wins.

Also, Google made the first move with this type of grievance. They have the luxury of setting the tone and ensuring that all other parties only have a chance to defend themselves rather than achieve anything greater than when this all started.
While it may be hip on the net to trash our country, if you ask an average person in a developing country where they want to go, they will invariably want to come here. Even in China, who everyone is waiting for with bated breath to overtake America, people want to come here.
That was not clear in the email. Either you are privy to some undisclosed information or you are imagining things.
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Amazon tends to just mention that the item is not available to shipping for all countries and only at checkout does it complain that it may not sell it to you.

To add insult to injury they now spam me advertisements of the products I had to abandon, which they naturally still cannot sell me.
Since I quit my job I've been working more than twice as much and loving it (on my startup). I ran into a problem after about two weeks with my eye twitching from too much screen time but took a week vacation and have been fine the two months since. I now sit by a window so I occasionally glance out and exercise my eye focus muscles.
Adding to your point, 'Quality' itself and its perception is not equal across professions.

For a truck driver how quality is measured might be totally different than how its measured for a programmer.
More like, joint bidders had a greater chance of getting the bounty, Google chose to ignore Microsoft's proposal. Apple took them up on the offer.
That's how childish Google has become (or rather their legal and PR teams).
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I'm not sure what point you're making. There were plenty of smartphones that existed before the iPhone. Many of them had icons and some had touch screens. None of them resembled the iPhone in 2007 any more than they resembled the Newton or Palm OS though.
This critique is just a bit unfair to Scheme, given his first couple examples being used to show how cumbersome it is compared to Miranda. Normally you'd have a fold function defined and use that instead:

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Writing it this way is more idiomatic Scheme, and isn't really cumbersome.
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"Google strikes first but Microsoft wins."

Somehow I've got the feeling everybody is going to win. Google made the patent problem very public. This spark might light the fire of a revolution.
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That's my take too. He was stopped before he got very far. With a sufficient quantity of radium and beryllium he could have done some amazing damage.
So-called 'trend growth' has been fueled by fossil fuels, with massive increases in the ability to exploit oil fields quickly, occurring since the 40's.

Basically, civilization is a heat engine, where prosperity, power, industry is directly tied to how much energy we can burn. Increasing prosperity demands increasing energy.

In the case of the US, oil production peaked in 70's, and the US has struggled to increase oil supplies since then. The show-downs with OPEC in the 70's that led to bad recessions are an example of the struggles.

As of 2005, World oil production has been basically flat. There's plenty of oil left, the problem is that despite trillions of dollars of CAPEX, it just can't be pumped fast enough to support 6 billion humans at increasing living standards.

Hence, World prosperity is probably staying level, but redistributing itself Eastward towards Asia.

edit: Per NBC, there are 45 million Americans claiming foodstamps in order to feed themselves. That's a very scary contrast with how the US normally thinks of itself.
Capitalism (or more correctly consumerism) requires things to be spectacular.
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I'm getting tired of lazy reporting gushing about how many patents are involved in this or that deal, but with little or no discussion of which patents these actually are and what they cover.

A few good patents trumps a big pile of trash any day. (e.g. the current Apple/Samsung spat is about just 7 patents.)

Also...

Google is clearly willing to pay to acquire patents, but they’ve reiterated time and time again that they won’t overpay for them. “This anti-competitive strategy is also escalating the cost of patents way beyond what they’re really worth. Microsoft and Apple’s winning $4.5 billion for Nortel’s patent portfolio was nearly five times larger than the pre-auction estimate of $1 billion,” [SVP and Chief Legal Officer] Dummond wrote today.

How do you get to be SVP at a $200bn company without apparently understanding that things are worth what other people are prepared to pay for them?
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I add to what everyone has said here and elsewhere: terrific work. I would love to discuss with you guys adding a commenting component to meaningfully organize public comments, particularly on proposed rules.

I am a lawyer with a tech background and had ~10 years of experience with (comments on) Federal Rulemaking at the Natural Resources Defense Council. State of the art is still often hundreds of printouts of electronically submitted comments.
I'm guessing you say that because you expect him to be doing crazy magic developery things that normal people don't need, but the objections he raises seem to be about fairly "normal" uses (he uses the terminal as an example but presumably it's the same for any other app).
I just pulled up the last year's worth of consulting invoices and yes, it looks like I managed to bill an entire 40 hours once in the last 52 weeks.

I have a personal policy of only billing for the time I'm creating value. So if I boot up, fire up the IDE, sip my coffee, pull up a bug report, then proceed to browse f'ng Hacker News for 2 hours, I don't charge my time. Similarly, if I notice by lunchtime that I'm just plain not smart enough to program computers for money today, I'll stop the clock and go climbing or something.

So yeah, I bill 20-30 hours each week, but they're good hours. Back in my salaried days I'd often find my butt in the Aeron for a good 60 hours a week, much of which was spent debating where to go for lunch, reading the internet, and maintaining the corporate HalfLife server. I doubt I got any more productive hours in then than I do now.
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>One of our clients, net worth in the $60M range, built a small company and was acquired with stock from a multi-national. Stock is often called a "paper" asset.

This seems odd (also the example of programmer with stock options later) - so is he saying that because the payment is in equity you're in the financial sector / not producing real value? I'd read that last line as being disparaging about stock because it's "paper".
The only example with any bite is the investment banker admitting they think they add no value.
Definitely excited to see him have this opportunity to explore a new format. I've had the great honor of being able to be in some videos with him, and his storytelling blows me away.
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nonsense.
some of things that post comments or use Internet don't have real identity.
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Googles make a large hue and cry whenever its free enterprise are in danger. Same happened with bing story. All bogus claims.

People who spend large amount of money in creating new technology want to have something in return. Every product can't go by freemium model.
We know for a fact that Google didn't want "the whole thing for itself, in the case of Nortel". They teamed up with Intel on their final bid.
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While Washington was busy debating whether or not to sabotage the recovery by failing to raise the federal debt ceiling

Up to now, Washington has thrown every Keynesian trick in the book at this recession, and it doesn't seem to have had a substantial impact. I think the original stimulus would have had a better impact if it had included a lot more infrastructure investments than "give a man a fish" type expenditures. I'm not a student of economics, and I won't try to pretend to be one on this forum, but haven't we run out of Keynesian options if we want to continue with the current economic policies?

Nate Silver's leading line above makes me think of Germany [1]. They were the only government to take a position of austerity, were widely criticized for it, but they're the only major Western economy that rebounded from the economic crisis. The U.S. government, on the other hand, lacks the unity and political will to lead a turnaround.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/14/world/europe/14germany.htm...
There absolutely can be bad terms, from Google's point of view (and not from the point of view of Apple and RIM). For example, restrictions on who or how you can sub-license your rights to the patents to third parties...
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I put 40-50 hours as real client work + essential other activities (finances, website work, etc) but in reality as a small business starting out I never stop thinking about what next to do with my company.
There is no surplus of good opportunities for technical folks to co-found something they can believe in. There are plenty of other opportunities of course.

I think the article is solid in that you have to sell the potential technical co-founder that you have a great idea and will add value to the relationship. "decent salary" will get you a contractor for hire, not a co-founder.

You don't have a lot of choice than to network and try your pitch.
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What I do not understand is that Python is seen as a good language to teach Computer Science. I would have thought that a requirement for such a language is that it is theoretically sound. Python has a broken scope concept. Also, I think that a "there is only one way to do it" philosophy, coupled with the crippling of several constructs, is not a good basis for forming an open mind.
Exactly. I've had a similar experience consulting, and wondered if it was the same for others... or if they're just loose with counting hours.

The only time I've been able to rack up more than 20~25 hours is when I work at the client's office (as I've been doing for the past couple of months).
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I have the same sentiment. My guess is that MS offered to team up before all the bidding took place. Google refused, because they wanted to have it all. After the bidding started, Microsoft teamed up with Apple and others. From Microsoft point of view, they win the patents either way. So, bad planning from Google, good planning from Microsoft.
Well, i had the doubts and started using rescuetime(www.rescuetime.com) for tracking my activities. I won't get into definition of work but just give some stats. i clock between 50-70 hrs a week on the computer. Productive time(Defined as time spent on the terminal/editor) : 20-30 hrs. Rest is either browsing blogs/email/video..:)
P.S: And oh, am dissatisfied with what i have accomplished.
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I was briefly thinking about this the other day and my quick fix was to de-emphasize the coupon/gift card fields by using progressive disclosure. Screenshot of mockup: http://d.pr/KxJe. Although this doesn't completely remove the fact that the site accepts coupons, it helps with the 'empty field' issue described in the original post. Thoughts on this? Anybody run across any other solutions?
>Per NBC, there are 45 million Americans claiming foodstamps in order to feed themselves.

That number is set to increase with severe cuts to entitlements and the unlikelihood of another extension of unemployment benefits.

Americans have really drunk the Kool-Aid on the notion of American exceptionalism. The idea that America is somehow special, possessed of some manifest destiny and unable to lose has been so deeply engrained in the American psyche, and for so long, that even now the notion of failure seems too fanciful to enter the common narrative. America is not special. It's been favoured by politics and luck, but there's nothing keeping it on top besides continued prosperity. Look at Japan for an example of what could easily happen: a high-tech economy with a massive banking and manufacturing sector, that collapsed then...never really restarted. There are, in fact, many parallels between the Japanese and American recessions. While Japan is still a massive innovator, the benefits have not trickled down to the average Japanese citizen. China long ago took over as the biggest economy in Asia, and could easily supplant the US globally if current trends continue.

To face these challenges, the US has...Congress. The leadership vacuum in Washington is downright depressing. Amidst bitter political bickering, the disaffected masses turn to the demagoguery of the Tea Party, further perpetuating the political morass. Can anyone see a viable, achievable solution? Cutting the deficit is critically important, yet any proposed method of doing so seems likely to hurt the economy at a time when it simply can't take it. Everything seems poised to get much worse before it gets better.
I don't understand why Google not wanting to team up with MS weakens their argument. If anything, it's quite consistent with it. But one way or another, what ultimately happened is that MS teamed up with Google's competitors to bully them with bullshit patents. That Google may have had a chance to avoid it doesn't make it any less wrong.
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You've asserted this like four times. Is there actually more information on this story available than what was in the tweets and email?
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