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Cybernetics and control theory, broadly speaking, involve the design of data feedback loops to govern simple machines or complex socio-technical systems. For instance, an organization might instrument a feedback loop to use qualitative survey data to inform decision-making. That isn't ML, but it is cybernetics. And, based on Peter Norvig's definition, it is a form of AI.

Consider that "autopilot" was invented in 1914, long before digital computers. From this perspective, Artificial Intelligence might even be seen as an ancient human practice— present whenever humans have used artifacts to govern complex systems.
Naturally given C's nature as pseudo-macro assembler, there will always ways to work around the mitigations, see iOS PAC exploits, however them not being there is even worse as proven by the numbers from Google and Microsoft security reports.
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> If it wasn't deliberate they would let you install Chrome instead of forcing you to use Safari with a chrome skin.

Because browsers allow remote code execution and Apple wants to limit the attack surface.

This is about gullible users being protected from attackers by Apple.
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> or they could both be true.

The could not. One of them, the first one, is at variance with reality. Read it again, they did not claim a real life vaccine injury, they claimed "many people", "long term" and also "it will happen to you". This is, I repeat, nonsense.
Money is not as complex idea as he suggests. It's just the most agreed upon way of measuring prices and committing trade between individuals in a society. It allows people to sell, buy and measure prices. Whichever way does this the best, spontaneously becomes "money" through network effects from individual decisions of market participants. It's beneficial for each individual and for the society to use the same way as everyone else, and that's why something becomes "money".

Something needs to have certain properties in order to become money, such as scarcity, divisibility, durability, verifiability and transportability. This ensures that the money can be used for trade in different scales, in different places, and in different times. Whichever money does this best, will eventually replace the old money, given a free market.
> If you are not producing sales or a product which is sold, or reducing costs just how are you adding 1m of value. By this I mean tangible value, value which you can be paid for. Because that is what we are actually talking about monetary value being added somewhere.

The precise mechanism isn't that important, but if it helps, imagine the following artifical scenario: a small startup buys 2 1000$ computers and hires a programmer and a salesperson, for 10k$ a month each. The programmer produces an app in 6 months, and the salesperson sells it for $3M. The two together have brought the company $3M in worth, minus $130k that they cost. Exactly how much esch contributed to the $2.8M is harder to say, but certainly each only contributed a portion of the $2.8M - even though the salesperson actually caused the revenue to flow in, they are not solely responsible; and neither is the programmer, even though they single-handedly created the product.

> Why would I ever say investing 1m to get 100k back is a good investment, getting 1.1m back might be a good investment depending on risk though, sticking 1m in a bank I am unlikely to get that rate of return for example. But I don't understand this part at all.

Well, a worker who, through their time and expertise, is adding $1M to the company's value is almost precisely equivalent to the investor investing $1M. However, you believe that the worker should get back 10% of what they invested, while the investor should get back 110% of what they invested. Do you see the double standard?
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In the new opening theme they even make a point of showing they've changed, embracing subjects like gender and ethnicity that would have been the butt of jokes at some point in the old show. They recognize these times would not allow certain forms of "humor."
So if that is the current understanding of how the vaccine works, isn’t it important to follow up on data that seems to not align with those statements? If 69% of people are vaccinated, I would expect <69% of recent COVID cases to be from the vaccinated.

When we get data that contradicts what we expect, it needs to be taken seriously, it needs to be broadcast, it needs to be followed up on, and the correct conclusions need to be drawn from experts in a transparent way.
I don't agree that the data imply that.

If 100% of people are vaccinated, 100% of covid infections will be among vaccinated people. In MA, ~70% of people are vaccinated. Vaccination rates are higher in some places. Given this, it's not surprising that most infections in certain places are among vaccinated people. The absolute number and how sick people are getting have to be considered as well.
When I worked at McDonalds in Germany about 1988 ('company store', not franchised) it was tap water from the local utility, processed by systems in the basement for compensating local differences in PH, for having a consistent
endproduct regardless of location. That was true for all stores in the region, regardless of company store or franchised. By 'the book' that was the way how it was done worldwide, then. Don't know how it is today.
I'm not sure what you're getting at - it's still impossible to have a rotation that transforms a spatial basis vector into a time basis vector.
That's a different argument.

You're telling me why we won't make change, whereas previously you were claiming there's no point in making any change in the first place because we're already "fucked".

And I happen to agree with you on this point.

We can do something to change our future and we can start today.

But I'm quite sure we won't, for the reasons you cite and many more besides, including the persistent myth that we're already screwed and there's no point in trying.

And then we have folks like BackBlast who, in the desire to resist any and all necessary change, seem to have, over the last 20 years as the evidence has become undeniable, switched from climate change denial to climate change dismissiveness to now climate change acceptance. It's deeply disheartening and entirely predictable.
I read it when I was 10 and remember it very well. Great story indeed. Thanks for a memory!
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Does qualitative data actually exist? Named colors are considered qualitative, but rbg and cmyk are quantitative. Does converting from one to the other switch whether it is qualitative or quantitative?

Surely semantic meaning is qualitative, but look at word replacement in Google search. That’s entirely based on statistics, thesaurus graphs, and other ultimately quantitative data.

The neat thing about neural nets is that they are ultimately making a very, very complicated stepwise function. Brains are not neural nets, but are they doing anything other than create a very complex, entirely numerical, time and state dependent function? No matter which way you try to understand something, ultimately you are relying entirely on statistical inference.
> A plastic bag ... is less harmful ... than a paper bag ...

This is a strawman: you insist comparing two harmful options and ignoring others.

For example, in many countries own reusable shopping bags made of cotton.

They last a decade and are even more comfortable to carry.
VR in fact kinda forces you into only using it for short periods. You get tired much more quickly when moving with motion controls vs. sitting with a keyboard/controller :D
> you think they're saints when in fact they're almost universally assholes

This does not match my experience, and outside the classroom I have been in 1:1 or 2:1 situations with several Nobel prize winners. I'm commenting on individual demeanor, not whatever happens when departmental politics plays out.

As you describe Bardeen, I would take that to be the norm.

Edit: That much said, the topic article rubs me the wrong way. As someone above says, the tone is harsh.
In case it is helpful to anyone, we've recently started a post series in the HourStack blog about this topic. A lot of focus goes into time management strategies, but often prioritization is ignored. It's quite powerful if you can put the two together in a way that works for you as doing the right work is preferable to just doing work.

There are many prioritization and time management strategies out there, but we intro some of the popular ones [0] and we'll be expanding each of those into detailed posts over the coming weeks. The first one about using the Ivy Lee method to prioritize tasks [1].

[0] https://hourstack.com/blog/16-effective-prioritization-and-t...

[1] https://hourstack.com/blog/how-to-use-the-ivy-lee-method-to-...
I remember seeing that (regex CTs) and immediately thinking "wtf, why would anyone want to do that". Took me quite a while to understand that it's actually a pretty clever way to write fast state machines in browserland. So thank you for this work!
> If you can't handle being around people that are differently abled from you then the answer is not to take your frustrations out on them.

Of course. But von Neumann was just as human as the people who struggled to keep up with him, he just had different weaknesses. Having low emotional intelligence is every bit as deserving of understanding as having low general intelligence.

> The answer is to stop being around people. No community/culture/society owes anyone, not even people at this level, some kind of pampered sphere of existence that revolves around them.

You sure about that? Society has MASSIVELY benefited from von Neumann's work. If the cost of that was a few people's hurt feelings at his inability to interact with them a way that doesn't hurt their feelings it was a small price to pay.
I can't speak to statistics at large, but anecdotally, my wife was laid off and we needed someone with our son during "home schooling" anyway, so she just continued on to get her degree since many universities have an online option at the moment (which should continue and expand). With the variant, we have this same option next year, though no unemployment and we'll just be a single income while she finishes up her last half year or so.

In our case, it wasn't the "refusing to go back to work to make a better life" narrative that's getting pushed; it's more the, she had to stay home with our son while he's in school, but what does she do while he's in school all day? You only have to be sort of involved. You might as well be productive, but you have trouble being productive enough to really work.
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I imagine that many of its natural predators (especially viruses) would be rendered ineffective against it, allowing it to outcompete the rest of the ecosystem.
Trains are pretty full right now in London.

But just “full to capacity, standing room only” full, not ”full to beyond capacity, have to push and squeeze your way in before the doors close” like before the pandemic!
> In a market economy there is no such thing as a "shortage" of workers

That's...not true. If you make a bunch of Econ 101-level simplifying assumptions, like that supply and demand curves are continuous, of infinite range, and monotonically increasing and decreasing, respectively, with price, it is a natural conclusion, but those “assume a cow is a perfectly thermoconducting sphere” kind of assumptions don't hold in real market economies.
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IIRC, wood chisel and 3 plates. Prussian blue to evaluate the thickness. Portland cement, a hairdryer and crucible. I made tongs with strap iron and a drill. hairdryer on the charcoal to melt the aluminum.

I started with sand casting aluminum cans. I realized I was woefully unprepared to deal with molten metal, if something went wrong. I wasn't willing to iterate at the bottom, and buying the next level of tech seemed like cheating. Still have the books though.
Though even if it's 1/12, the chance of no negative results by chance is still >10%, right?
I feel like this would have felt more relevant maybe five-ten years ago when there was more of a feeling that deep neural nets was the end all. He mentions correlation vs causation but seems to have missed that causal inference is one of the most active and interesting fields of research today.
I’m always curious about the cost of labor, and the breaking point for AI to be a solution to that. I’m thinking mostly autonomous robotics to pick, pack, and ship the products, make the burgers, and heck probably restock the shelves at night.

I also ask that Because I think humans are losing. The big one will be autonomous trucking. Once that hits, I think we’re going to see massive layoffs and unemployment, as robotics replaces humans.
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I still use Firefox - primarily for the container extension which is exactly the awesome type of privacy and internet control we need. I simply don't want google that into my ecosystem. When they have to be there, I want them in a penalty box.

Firefox lost their way technically, and their focus on users when Brenden Eich was forced out. Mozilla's focus seems to be far more on the social to the detriment of their technical efforts.

Their fragmentation trying to chase other goals then browser has really cost them.

Want mozilla to take a stand on a policy issue? Great. Responsive. Respond to user requests? Not so much.

To be clear, I defend anyone's right to have a position and make the world a better place. But please improve the product that you are actually working on. The number of users you claim to speak for is shrinking.
I’d go a step further and ask if our online interactions are really simulating ape tribes. The social and emotional dynamics online do not really substitute for real human relationships. Though they do serve some emotional needs, our social circuitry is hacked in a way by technology. We are set up to engage in an ideological discourse that leads to conflict. Not all human tribes engage in war; there is an ecological condition that triggers this impulse. Our digital ecology is not designed to be aligned with our well-being, but instead aligned with the interests of a capitalist system. In general, substances can be marketed which hack the human system and addict them to habits counter to their own well-being —- for instance, narcotics. Technology can be made to work harmoniously with human social orders, but doing so requires a strong model of human behavior in societies.
I see no path from "observation" to "model" that does not involve an arbitrary (aesthetic? Nonrational, human-necessitating?) choice.

This would suggest that "general" AI is impossible.

ON THE OTHER HAND

There is a variety of general AI, called an "optimizer". It starts with something better than a void. Maybe that's the path we should be looking at.
At some point a variant basically becomes a new virus.
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I can feel that too. But I have tried to sync so many times, tried reinstalling, used a different account but it never worked.
Yes, that is explicitly part of the point Doctorow is making. It’s why the essay mentions the fact that humans see faces in clouds, etc. Humans typically know when they are “hallucinating” a face, and ML algorithms don’t. When humans see a face in the snow, they post it to Reddit; they don’t warn their neighbor that a suspicious character is lurking outside. This is the distinction the essay draws.
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> Pressure is also building for “polluter-pays” laws that would shift the cost of waste collection from taxpayers to the companies that make and use plastic. Earlier this month, Maine became the first U.S. state to pass such legislation… The American Chemistry Council (ACC), an industry group whose membership is dominated by plastics makers, says polluter-pays measures would hurt the economy.

This is the kind of solution that seems to appeal to HN and appeals to me personally. It’s a system-wide incentives problem. So just change the incentives and price in the externality, right? Same goes for carbon taxes. I hope these kinds of laws catch on.
N=1, I spend all my media time on Youtube. Haven't watched a show in years. Watched some of the NBA playoffs though. Also watched Tenet in a huge empty theater.
> While understandable, this is in essence trolling.

That's not at all trolling, not even in essence.

Trolling is deliberately trying to anger someone in order to provoke them to respond, not trying different arguments to see if you can make it work to determine if that is what you really believe, or if you have a rational point of view.

While there certainly is a gray area there, which is clearly different for the two of us, I think discussion boards have been around long enough for a reasonable smell test.
We're in the middle of a discussion about plastic waste, and some people add to the discussion by posting their personal experiences as counter to people who have clearly no personal experiences, and some other people push back which what sounds like rational skepticism but is really just shifting the burden of proof to an absurd level, like they are going to dedicate years of their life to visit a representative sample of beaches to even post a comment.

There's a point where skepticism becomes more than just irritating, but entirely subtractive from the discussion. It's hard to know what your intentions are from that pushback, but it was borderline IMHO, and it certainly muddies the waters.

I'll be completely open about my intentions. I want people to stop fucking up my river and, damn it, it's not China or India's fault. OP is a complete distraction from a real problem that exists where I live. I'd like to dump a few bags of garbage I picked up from the river on their lawn and see what they think about some vague plan to clean up the Ganges.
Increasingly I have absorbed "work" into a three step feedback cycle - something comparable to OODA but with a more contemplative purpose. It's really intended for creative projects but it scales and generalizes nicely to many life things:

1. Principles - why you do a thing

2. Benchmarks - what defines success and failure at making the thing

3. Mediums - how thing is made

The starting point - the review - is often to-do list like. The to-do list's function is mostly taken care of within five minutes of heading out the door for a walk with out-loud self-talking: "So, yesterday this happened. And I want to do this today." Verbalizing it(while a bit surprising to passerby) makes a huge difference because it does the "getting it out of me" function that all these apps do, and then lets the thought disappear into conversation without a List of Shame forming.

But the thing I say I want to do is usually defined in terms of medium(the specific actions I take or techniques I will be using). If I agree I can drill down to specifics until I've designed an exact step-by-step process. If I disagree with that it's going to happen that I loop around to either the principle(is there a good reason?) or the benchmark(am I measuring the goal correctly?).

Blockage can usually be identified by pointing to one part of the cycle that doesn't work. I have to get all three parts to cohere for an action to matter. So I will have days where I act and then learn that the benchmark is wrong, thus needing to throw away the result but getting a little bit closer to coherent design.

All of this happens outside the formal workplace, mind. The principles and benchmarks of the business, after all, are independent of my own. But it pushes me to find useful perspectives and get away from hours-on-clock production, which I needed to do when I started working for myself. I've ended up with all my income deriving from investment, which could also be seen as "cheating the system". I actually worked backwards from the outcome(hmm, somehow that happened) to what made it happen(identifying and refining how I operate). When I do the analysis it's really clear that the times of my life that were most stressed were the ones where obligations made me act, act, act without being able to go through the loop, so now I'm trying to apply it more consciously.
> And, you know, gun culture.

You know despite year over year shattering records of gun ownership that homicides with firearms are almost historic lows right?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

Edit: “Hmm, he sourced direct evidence… but I don’t like this truth”
> There are currently many more licensed UK drivers not working in the industry than there are vacancies.

Do you have data to back this up (specifically for HGV-licensed drivers, which is what the post you replied to was talking about)?

I briefly looked for stats around valid HGV licences out there, but couldn't find any recent figures.
>Every to-do list is, ultimately, about death.

This succinctly captures something I've thought more about as I've gotten older (now 47). This is especially true around the "Someday/Maybe" category in my system. Some items in there are themselves nearly teenagers! And it is sobering how few of these bigger items actually get done or even thought about in a year. But at least I'm checking off dozens of minutia tasks each week :/
Those humans don't typically believe those hallucinated faces belong to people though nor do they call the cops.
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Since then, Lunar has acquired a lot more AppStore violations like linking to frameworks located in /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks, not being sandboxed, and not caring about a lot of their design guidelines.

So I didn’t really want to go through their process when the chances of getting an approval are close to zero.
How do you know how it sounded in the studio, from the high quality masters, on their studio monitors? I think that'd be the true representation, not a vinyl facsimile.
Good. When we die, we will still have a giant todo list, and that’s OK. That doesn’t mean we haven’t done things, it just means the list didn’t capture the entirety of our desires and goals.

Maybe the point of writing them down is mostly reflective; to contextualize them as much as possible and do the ones that we find most important by some unconscious heuristic. That means there will always be uncompleted things.

Also we have to see when we itemize things to do, we also objectify ourselves as a doer of those things. Which is OK for making things graspable, but ultimately we are not mere doer of things, we are humans in an existential context.

Maybe it is a good thing that we left todo items unchecked, maybe that is our protest against being reduced too much, maybe that procrastination is an attempt at gaining our humanity back, maybe that resistive Netflix binge has some unconscious meaning that needs to be honored.
For what it’s worth, we (Reclaim.ai - I’m quoted in the article), have a lot of ADHD customers who tell us that we help with time blocking on their calendar.

In particular, the fact that we do it automatically seems to be the thing they appreciate.

Edit: First time I’ve ever been downvoted into negative territory. Clearly I’ve embarrassed myself ;P

Is it because of self promotion? I guess… seems weird though I/my company are literally part of the article, I replied to a specific comment around issues with time blocking for ADHD people, and how automation seems to be a solve to the problem highlighted by the parent.

shrug
I'm not entirely sure I'd fancy a second life as the pigeon in figure (1).
Yes. The vast majority of public school systems mandate vaccination.
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