skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The sheep/goats sometimes start yelling before opening their mouths, which seems to usually sound like maaaaaa, but can sometimes sound more like baaaaa, gaaaaa, waaaa, yaaaa. When they open their mouths before starting the yell there is no leading consonant sound.

Don’t think I have ever heard an initial 'v' sound though.
It's 100% a thing in law. Denver up until very recently only allowed 2!!!

They shouldn't have to. That's a ton of work.

At one point in time black people could vote if they 'hacked the system' by paying or passing a test.
It’s amazing he seems so butt hurt. I think it’s an alt of the blog author.
The second video is crap too. It's all based on that the diagnostic tools shows the correct values of written data...
The issue of deleted repositories being available through it would still exist. Whether or not GitHub should be blamed for that is another matter.
The median resident doesn't work in tech; even here we're only something like 15% of the population. It's mostly cash investors who don't necessarily live here that can sustain these prices, at least for the moment.
There have been a lot of tweets from developers with access raving about how cool it is.
I thought the drivers of cost are lots of design work, patents, trade secrets etc. involved with each process. If there’s a “final” node, those costs should decrease over time and eventually become more of a commodity.
> ...carrying around one of those large key rings with literally a mass amounts of keys makes people more interested knowing about you. It is implied access to many protected valuable items.

An interesting FIRE (Financial Independence / Retire Early) subculture consciously eschews such markers, and even advocates deliberately signaling the opposite. I'm beginning to wonder if developed world, middle-to-upper class long-term mate selection criteria are adding increasingly subtle, sophisticated cues on top of the more conventional ornamentally-oriented signals, and that is acting as another selection pressure for intelligence. For all the Instagram dreck that floats out there, I see an astonishing number of Zoomers and Millenials who, compared to previous generations, are far more financially sophisticated and aware of cognitive biases used to sell to them, and are assiduously avoiding adopting conventional success markers.
> Just as a counterpoint, both as a user and a developer I've found the main cause of performance issues and UI bugs come from a combination of distributed state and caching.

Isn't that like, the main cause of most software headaches? insert joke about cache invalidation and naming things.

It sounds like you're saying bad caching can be worse than no caching. I can absolutely see that being the case.

> - Make it difficult for a human programmer to reason intuitively about the performance of the code they write.

Totally agree.
This reminds me of cgit[1], but the UI seems even simpler.

[1] - https://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
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Thinking more about the quarantine and testing costs flying internationally at the moment. And a post-Covid world with bankrupt airlines and a lot less flight availability. With the end of the Covid crisis blending into a more serious fight against climate change.
Nothing wrong with that. That's how I've built scraper systems in the past. It's nice for getting historical snapshots of live data.

The trouble comes in when you want to do something that you know will modify the result. (The "request things that need updating" part was surprisingly hard for me; if an item is modified but the old cached copy is still being served, it became problematic for me to rely on it.)
It's easy to value things like aesthetics when you've got yours. Rents are taxing people out onto the streets and raising the cost of everything, but heaven forbid we offend any NIMBY's personal aesthetic tastes.
>showing that excessive writing still happens

It only shows that excessive writing is still reported. Whether it still happens that's another matter.
I'm more concerned with all the poor code and security issues that Copilot has been trained on. Garbage In, Garbage Out.
Yes, it was. From their site: "It has been trained on a selection of English language and source code from publicly available sources, including code in public repositories on GitHub."
When opening in iOS I get this great thoughtful message:

atto can't run in this browser :(

Unfortunately, your browser doesn't support the features that are required to run atto. If you're on mobile, try using atto on a desktop computer. Otherwise, please use the latest version of Chrome or Firefox, which are known to work with atto.

If you're using Safari, then it's doubtful that Apple will ever implement the required features due to their constant reluctance to modernise their browser. If you work for Apple/are on the WebKit dev team, please implement lookbehind in regex so we can make atto work for everyone!
> I looked it up, and apprently this could be true

It is true. One of the findings from the Mueller report identified the very day that the emails were sent from Russian intelligence to WikiLeaks
Weird takeaway from “do your share of the work”.
Recently there has been increasing government interest in "domestic terrorism" which is basically the public facing component of an increase in funding for three letter agencies.
The comments on the original announcement here were pretty positive: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27676266
Take aways in summary:

- Copilot does sometimes rote copy for nontrivial situations
- Mostly this happens when there isn't much context to go on.
- Provided an empty file, it proceeds to recommend to write the GPL
- They will add a "recitation detector" to copilot to indicate non-novel recommendations

By the standards of corp-speak this is pretty good, they admit there is a problem there and they intend to do something tractable to prevent it.

This entire copilot situation is far enough outside my personal "mental ethics model" that I'm personally abstaining form taking a stance until I have had a lot more time to think and learn about it.
Googling a bit of the stylesheet suggests that it's stagit, a static page generator for git repos:

https://codemadness.org/stagit.html

Contrast these two pages, and you'll see it's a match:

https://codemadness.org/git/bmf/log.html

https://thelig.ht/code/block-tracing/log.html
Surprised I had to scroll so far to find this, given how copyleft and straight-up anti-IP so much of the open source community is.

I think a lot more people on this site (and in the FOSS community in general) would be on board with Copilot if it respected viral licenses, e.g. if it had a way of inferring that the code it was copying verbatim were GPL-3 and warned the user that including it in their project would require them to GPL-3 their project as well.
Copyleft exists for a reason.
Semi-related question, The MIT license template has "Copyright © 2021 <copyright holders>", but don't I have to register copyrights somewhere? I've always been confused by this. Do I just stick "Copyright MyName" in my GitHub repos? It seems like this is what most people do..
Is there actually a search.json endpoint?

https://github.com/HackerNews/API doesn't list this as a valid endpoint. Indeed, when I try to access it via curl, I get a HTTP 405 with a "Permission denied" error (same result when I try to access nonexistent-endpoint.json).

Based on the HN search on the website, I'd expect the correct autocomplete to involve hn.algolia.com [0].

[0] https://hn.algolia.com/api points at https://hn.algolia.com/api/v1/search?query=...

To me, this points at the need for human input with a system like this. There is a Firebase endpoint, yes, and Copilot found that correctly! But then it invented a new endpoint that doesn't exist.
Well, for whatever reason, the HN thread for it is in the top 30 most upvoted threads of all time. That probably counts for something.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
I saw the Red Ventures info, but given that the Download site's help pages still link to CBS, is it possible not every part of CNET was sold or there's some other arrangement going on there?

Either way, I think your fundamental advice (call and ask where to send legal process) is probably right.
According to what? The reported written data counts? Who says those are accurate for the new architecture?
Maybe because more arrests are a bad sign and not a good one? There really is no reason to boost anything around here
Ridiculous - he absolutely did not die on his own terms. Once he was aware of his diagnosis there was no way for him to die on his own terms, he just died.

The only way you could possibly achieve the idea of "dying on your own terms" would be if you were in perfect health and then willingly decided to commit suicide.
> Almost forgot to point out the "making them all the same" strawman. Never suggested that, champ

If you succeeded in making your desired changes in your town, what would happen to the people that didn't want them--that like things the way they are now?
It's not "literally" stealing, because it doesn't deprive anyone of the use the source code. Those two points were somehow extremely obvious to everyone here as long as it was music and movies we were talking about.

And Github themselves have stated that only 0.1% of the Copilot output contains chunks taken verbatim from the learning set. Of those, the vast majority are likely to be boilerplate so generic it's silly to claim ownership, and maybe sometimes impossible to avoid.
Coming up with this "return $this" pattern to emulate a composition operator seems like a very AI thing to do.
Right, but you either need a solid argument or some authority, and this guy has neither. He's effectively a nobody and he has just jumped to the conclusion that CoPilot is illegal.

If he had a good argument for that, fine. But without that he really needs to be someone whose opinion I care about.
I would add removing car parking requirements AND simultaneously pay for public transport, dedicated protected bike lanes etc to serve this new density.

Like you mention importance of stores.

I would maybe subsidize grocers & shops with tax breaks for a few years to get the walkability cycle going. The cart before horse problem, build it and they will come theory.
What if those chemicals will depopulate some humans in the end saving the world?
My windows 10 laptops can redraw the mouse cursor and windows without much issues when it's rendering a video using all the cpu cores for example.
Is it a mistake that their website <title> is "AIP Improvement Proposals"?
Disagree. Releasing unverified slog about your opponent days before an election when there's no time to find out if the claims are even true is the definition of a smear campaign.
I don’t quite understand what you mean. As I wrote I write my PR message as the commit message. That is one thing that is also very important for me. Write in the commit message why something changed. If the PR gets so damn big that it is so much to explain everything than it’s quite frankly too big. From
my experience the follow up commits for fixes or code review changes boil down to messages like “fix stupid bug”, “adjustments after code review”, etc. which are also not helpful when looking for the why. But I honestly understand what you mean. I’m just saying that limiting down the number of commits and the size of changes in them helped me over the years. I also don’t do it when I start of from a white paper. Only when the project enters the stage when PRs plus checks help mitigate potential bugs etc.
I can only speak of my own experience here in Switzerland. But nobody minds if a corner of the park is a little more busy as long as everyone is nice to each other. You don't consume where you buy so there is nothing really not kid friendly about it. Also parks where this things happen are usually not exactly tiny playgrounds but actual parks.
I know that some people have uploaded the Microsoft research kernel or even the leaked Windows source code to github at some point.

I wonder what Microsoft will do when snippets from that code start appearing in your code because of copilot. I'm guessing their lawyers wouldn't accept "the robot did it" as an excuse in that case.

I'm tempted to just throwing stuff like "AWS_KEY=" at the algorithm and see how many working credentials I can steal from private repos.
Scènes à Faire
First, it does copypaste code: https://docs.github.com/en/github/copilot/research-recitatio...

Second, we can't ignore that if someone deliberately tries to make it spit out copyrighted code, the chances are going to be much greater.

Why would anyone? Plausible deniability: "I didn't copy this GPL procedure, the copilot gave it to me!"
Ask HN: How can founders protect themselves from being fired by the board?
What can startup founders do early on to protect themselves from being fired by the board from their executive positions?

I am talking pre-VC when the founders are the only directors of the board and can pass any bylaw. Also assuming, of course, that VCs want to invest enough to look past certain things.

1. Can it be written into bylaws that founders cannot be fired unless there is a severe breach of trust / legal issues?

2. Is it more common to issue stock with extra voting powers?
International travel seems like more trouble than it's worth at the moment barring urgent need. One organization I know moved an early fall event from a non-US location to the US. Presumably, all going well, they're likely to at least get US audience/speakers.

Not clear to me how big an effect climate change will have unless fuel taxes are really ramped up--which is of course possible.
Woo! You rock. I was too lazy to do that myself (or at least, lounging around in bed...) so I was hoping a fellow like you would sleuth it.

Thank you. :)
What? I don't think I made any claim of the sort. I'm claiming that it does more than mere regurgitation and has done some amount of abstraction, not that it has human-level understanding. As an example, GPT-3 learned some arithmetic and can solve basic math problems not in its training set. This is beyond pattern matching and replication, IMO.

I'm not really sure why we should consider Copilot legally different from a fancy pen – if you use it to write infringing code then that's infringement by the user, not the pen. This leaves the practical question of how often it will do so, and my impression is that it's not often.
> Reading some copyrighted code can have you entirely excluded from some jobs - you can't become a wine contributor if it can be shown you ever read Windows source code and most likely conversely.

If that's the case, it should be easy to kill a project like wine - just send every core contributor an email containing some Windows code.
The argument that 'machines can learn from the code to produce something novel' doesn't bode well given copilot may very well produce code that is straight up cut and paste.

This just seems like a massive lawsuit waiting to happen.

What happens when you discover that you're using '20 lines of code from some GPL'd thing'?

What will your lawyers say? Judges?

It seems to me that if you use Copilot there's a straight up real world chance you could end up with GPL'd code in your project. It doesn't matter 'how' it got there.

I don't understand therefore how any commercial entity could allow this to be used without absolute guarantees they won't end up with GPL'd code. Or worse.
Looks like the type of cases that any smart singer would love to made an exception, allow the use of the song for this unique case and appear as an hero to everybody. If I were Taylor Swift calling to allow a viral video I bet that Youtube's CEO would pick up the telephone.

Appealing to rebel youngsters and turning your song into an hymn against corrupt police practices (an hymn for millions of people totally upset for the conduct of some police in the last years) is the type of golden publicity that you can't buy with money.
I think your comment made something click and it may just change my life. I'll try stick to being mindful of what you said:

> The curses of the human condition are anxiety and regret, the conditions that render people unable to engage in the present moment. The former is characterised as being stuck in the future psychologically, and the latter is being stuck in the past. Since neither the future or the past can be changed by obsessive thoughts in the present, these psychological conditions are a recipe for unhappiness, because happiness can only ever happen in the present moment, which is lost.

Hopefully it will have a positive effect on how I approach things, since anxiety/regret are the main things that affect my work, I believe.

We'll see.

In any case, even if there's no noticeable effect in the near future, I'm very happy I stumbled across your comment. Thank you very much!
One way to look at these models is to say that they take raw input, convert it into a feature space, manipulate it, then output back as raw text. A nice example of this is neural style transfer, where the learnt features can distinguish content from style, so that the content can be remixed with a different style in feature space. I could certainly imagine evaluating the quality of those features on a scale spanning from rote-copying all the way up to human understanding, depending on the quality of the model.
In the US, copyright is automatically granted: "Copyright protection in the United States exists automatically
from the moment the original work of authorship is fixed"

https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf
It's strange how this thing was not an opt-in feature at GitHub. I also feel like this thing is a violation of my integrity and I will consider stop using GitHub as well
I dunno about anybody else, but I still read $ in my head as 'string'. Anyway, this is nice, not sure I can quite work out saving and loading, but there's enough here to be nostalgia- and kid-friendly.

I've been very impressed with Gambas if anyone's looking for a more mature BASIC environment on Linux or elsewhere:

http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html

Bindings and UIs enough that it'd be a while before you really needed to break out into another language.
Zymoveal surely?
I would hope they're not using private repos.
How amazing would it be if you could ask a search engine for a piece of working code based on a short description?

That would be exciting tech for me.
I personally find that sort of treatment kinda irritating. Perhaps I am just too English about it, but please mind their own business. Even the guy handling your shoes knows about what you are doing with your day? Your total itinerary that someone else planned for you? No thank you.

What if actually I just wanted to do my own thing and the shoe guy got it wrong? Now everyone is embarrassed while they go get your tatty shoes and cancel restaurant reservations because you just wanted to go to Starbucks and do some email today.

If I had asked for those things then 110% yes, I love that decent service. But if it is all assumption...? then please leave me alone and don't think you know what I want. Kthx bai
How does having public funding for communication help? Having a zoom equipped laptop available for use in a county building isn’t much of a stretch. Public funding of communication will also guarantee spying.
Wouldn’t this make for a simple license laundering system?
Copyright does not require registration, although there may be advantages to doing so.
what about the "super entitle" companies that take code and violate its license.
That's a huge reach.
Absolutely they have contingency plans and it's unlikely something with these would cause a jet crash, but in a scenario with instrument flight due to weather, taking out one of two additional positioning systems adds noticeable risk.

Low visibility. No GPS. Impaired ATC. How many additional separate systems have to be affected to be a real problem?
It’s time to abolish copyright (http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendmen...). It absolutely makes no sense—unless your rich and don’t care about the progress of the arts and sciences.

You can spin your wheels all you want but going from simple first principles it is fundamentally flawed. If you believe ideas can be property, then you believe people can be property.
This is hyperbole / pretend outrage. No sane person claims to be outraged at a company because they made a silly oversight in their experimental product. Obviously Github can just create one instance of Copilot trained with each incompatible license. Even if it used heuristics to find out the license, a tiny subset of code that is accidentally admitted into the training would be negligable, and copyright concerns in software have always been already overblown to begin with.
Then you can't use the code completion tool made by Github using open-source code.
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What if you paid to keep it private?
The fair use was about Googled API reimplementation.
It becomes a whole different case with a 1:1 copy of code.
And don't forget fair use works in the US, not necessarily in the rest of the world.

But I'm happy about all the new GPL programs created by Copilot
Great, now when I search "atto" the search engine will bring up another thing I'm not looking for.
Grammar hasn't. Pronunciation has, a lot.
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It won’t destroy farming, it will just encourage farmers to use their land for different purposes. We still need to eat fruit, vegetables, and grains.

The land use required to rear cattle is phenomenal, not to mention the carbon footprint associated with the animals. This is more than just “marketing”.
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I don’t think it’s irrelevant to look at changing timescale. If the law broke down to be 3 years, there isn’t any reason it won’t be 4, 5, or some other N years in the future.
>When a machine does it, does it matter if the machine literally copied it from sources, or first transformed it into an isomorphic model in its "head" before regurgitating it back?

You've hit the nail on the head here. If this is okay, then neural nets are simply machines for laundering IP. We don't worry about people memorizing proprietary source code and "accidentally" using it because it's virtually impossible for a human to do that without realizing it. But it's trivial for a neural net to do it, so comparisons to humans applying their knowledge are flawed.
that sounds like the koolaid talking. while SF offers a lot of "culture", portland and seattle have great "scenes" too. restaurants in both cities easily rival those of SF, which tend to be long on cost and short on flavor. but in CA, LA outdoes SF for food, weather, art, music, entertainment, fashion, and shopping, with a more diverse (not tech-centric) economy to boot.