skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I see. I should have read the article more closely before commenting. I made a bad assumption based on the comments I saw here. The article is more about avoiding leaking the password than actually dealing with managing passwords in command lines.

A few comments on the actual article, which was a lot more insightful than I had thought:

- Protecting yourself from an audit logs is not really worth the effort, as the audit log should be treated as confidential as the secrets themselves.

- Utilities can themselves hide arguments, and will not show on the ps output. For example, `mysqlsh` shows as `--password=********`, as does `mysql`. I'm not 100% if modifying argv data has any effect on /proc, but then again, if you are protecting yourself from something that can access /proc (i.e. root), then nothing will work in the end. Protecting yourself from a rogue process that can monitor `ps` is also already a lost battle.
'Printing money' has nothing to do with printing bank notes.
That's a viewpoint that's up there with "babies can't feel pain", which was also common until the end of the last century[1], but has completely vanished since then.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_in_babies
People can and have already ported Wikipedia.
I’m inclined to agree, though that does not preclude them being otherwise smart, kind, open etc.

I think also that we as humans have “religions” that are also intellectual cop-outs in other areas. Left vs Right, Capitalism vs <<other>>, Nationalism/Patriotism vs Globalism.

I find a lot of people don’t have nuance to their thinking they just blindly believe what ever they’ve settled in on, which leads to those funny “curb your capitalism/communism” YouTube videos, where people can’t defend closely held convictions.
There is now selection.join() [1] which means you don’t have to use selection.merge() anymore.

[1] https://observablehq.com/@d3/selection-join
Survivorship bias on full display
Like gas, software naturally gets bigger up until it fills up any added value that might have been produced.
They don't. But we often put on a good show.
Much as I don't like the ethics of animal testing, I don't see the cruelty inflicted as any worse than factory farming, and even quite a number of "pastured" or "free range" husbandry operations.
A senior professor is getting other people to work on their ideas: something my thesis advisor always saw as a mark of distinction.

I know a professor in the CS department who has no picture of herself on her web page but rather a picture of her huge group of students… She knows the students have a tough road ahead and need as much credit for their work as possible.
There are shortened forms of singular nouns that end in -s, which also end in -s. Some forms are more common in some cultures/places - "stat" vs "stats" for "statistics" comes to mind.
Clerky (YC S11) Is Hiring Senior Software Engineers
1. He refered to countries using humans for testing being a leap

2. Using humans for testing makes no sense bc. animals are exactly used to avoid early testing on humans
I actually enjoy today's Internet much more. I'll lay out the reasons:

1) Easy access to many high quality contents. For example HN is a good platform for accessing new knowledge. Note that I say "access", not "learn". Reading HN sometimes give people the false impression that they are learning new knowledge, which usually is not the case. I treat HN as a platform to get a peek at certain new knowledge, but reading books, watching videos and most importantly implementing it by myself, IMO, is the only true way to learn.

2) Fast enough to view high quality videos without any delay. Again this is related to learning new things. It is also important for me because it's one of the few ways that I entertain myself.

3) This might be arguable, but getting knowing a lot of different people from different places is a lot fun. People who comes from different culture usually have different standard of "good", "bad" and other moral judgment and it's fun to read all of those. This was doable 20 years ago but far fewer people were online at the time.

4) It's a lot cheaper. 20 years ago only a company can afford something faster than 1M (back then I had a 56K Modem I think but can't be sure) in my country and it was very expensive even for the modems. Nowadays pretty much everyone has access to some high speed internet. Even if they cannot afford a computer (which is actually a rare case), they have Internet access through mobile phones.
there is a typo in headline
An web image clipper on Mac.
"a web image clipper..."
Well, it wasn't "the record companies" as a whole. The creative nomad player was during the same period and had no such limitations.
Sony, being a record company and a hardware company, limited their players in this way. And basically paved the way for other companies to take over the market.

Sad because their walk-man was basically the standard before, and sony makes some good hardware.
Who else is in the Moonball league? Other Moon teams?
If free will really is an illusion, then you can’t help believing what you do, and they can’t help believing what they do.
Ethical treatment of animals is a high priority in sponsored research:

https://olaw.nih.gov/resources/tutorial/iacuc.htm
actually v7: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27485123
AI-enhanced web pages. Sorry, SPAS.
The article specifically talks about this and you haven't really made a concrete reply to anything they say.

The quality of discourse on HN goes up when we all meaningfully engage with the content. The goal shouldn't be to see who is fastest to post a dismissal of the headline.
It's only odd for people with external locus-of-control magical beliefs that things "just happen" to them. Phobias are irrational fears most people choose not to overcome. This is in contrast to people who aren't ruled by fear, and confront and overcome their fears. Therefore, a lack of agency argument would be moot. And, phobias aren't behaviors, they're dysfunctional, intrusive, reflex feelings related to particular triggers.
I agree, minidiscs were a RW media format with a 140MB capacity that popped up in a time where 1.44MB floppy disks where still extensively used and the next-day thing we're CDRs/CDRW, both of which made it prohibitively time-consuming to write anything at all and were relatively fragile and inconvenient.
Manual transmissions are very rare in the USA now. Most auto manufacturers don't use them anymore (even in trucks). And the few that do, only do so in certain models that have to be ordered. I bought a manual in 2019. I had to drive to another state to get it. That was the last year the car I bought came with an option for a manual.
Agreed. A lot of testing is already done on poor people who are tempted by the income from clinical trials.

If we remove animals from this process, the first time a lot of products will touch living tissue is during these trials.
No. And neither do people who have to deal with billions of dollars worth of US bonds, given that 10Y Treasury inflation expectations have peaked and are currently going down:

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T10YIE

The Market™ (currently) thinks this is transitory. See also 5Y:

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/T5YIE

Of course the economy is dynamic, so we'll see what happens when things continue to open up as people get vaccinated. Things may have to be slowed down: but a 'too hot' economy is a nice problem to have, versus the alternative of a too slow one where there's lots of people that are unemployed.

Pre-pandemic the US unemployment rate was at 3.5%; it's currently at 5.8%:

* https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

I wouldn't be surprised that the desire is to get that lower before considering applying the brakes.
Unless someone can get out a replacement at least equally effective (and not too expensive), I think we have to rely on animal testing for some of the products.
It's not about the design, it's about the commercialization.
The quest to solve the ‘eerie’ hum of the Golden Gate Bridge
In the UK with recruiters I worked with, anonymous candidates first, terms later.

(this is for cold outreach)
Still a better usage of an animal life than eating them. I prefer to advance humanity, even minimally. If you put these numbers in comparison to animal farming, their suffering and their murdering, then it's absolutely worth it. For me it boils down to a simple set of questions. Would you murder 10'000 chickens to save your grandma's life? How about 10'000 cows? How about 10'000 rats? How about 10'000 rabbits? How about 10'000 monkeys? How about saving yourself? Your wife? Your child? Your children? Tens of humans? Hundreds of humans? Thousands of humans? I am willing to sacrifice an insane amount of animal lives in order to save anyone human. We could talk about reducing it, but I would agree only once we replaced the meat industry.
JavaScript engines like V8 can already do exactly as you said through hidden classes based on source code position and have been doing so for a long time.
I haven't read any evidence that classes are actually better optimized, even if it's often argued as the reason for why classes are better.
Since ethics has been invented for human society, there is no surprise for being averse to humans. Neither is that good or bad by nature
Admittedly, I miss the “old internet” too, however I have hope we can build it again.

As I see it, there are two main issues to solve:

1) It’s no longer trivial to build a “home” page that fits one’s diverse interests. People are lured into frameworks which prescribe a certain level of structure. How do we make it easy for people to freely add content to their “pages”
, in whatever form they envision?

2) The “early” internet (or what is left of it) is largely outranked now, as the methods by which we discover new information has been heavily commoditized by industry. Parallel to this shift, people have moved to podcasts, news articles and videos for their daily content. The group of people that consume text is no longer the majority. In many ways, each new social media platform is attempting to recapture an aspect of community/shared experience that has been achieved before. The good platforms extend this reach, the bad suffocate it. A truly decentralized internet experience has the potential to foster diversity, but our best and brightest are figuring out how to capture this value with variations of digital signatures rather than novel and groundbreaking tech.
Anonymity.
I mean company can always do better like giving animal better life before testing and not enthusiast after testing? But what happens now? Those animal are tortured, kept in worst condition and after testing is done you know what happens. Most of the testing is not harmful but the way companies handle the testing is worst to animal.

If something is going to human probably means it is safe which should mean safe for animals to some extent imo. But to save 1% of research cost you know researcher don't care about animal life :/
That's fair, but the technological improvements in the network layer that made it faster, more accessible and cheaper are not directly related with the complaints by the author.

We can have one thing without losing the other.
Neuroscience is built on animal testing. I can't see a realistic was of learning about the brain without animal experiments, unfortunately.

https://speakingofresearch.com/2015/12/10/importance-of-anim...

Do we want to give up learning the brain? (And other organs but brain is extra special)
Like gold. We are constantly mining more of it, stands to reason it would become cheaper over time. /s
When did you ever recoup your cost? Incomes held stagnant through the rise of college attainment, which means that there was no increase in pay to cover the cost.
Very interesting post.

It feels very applicable to the functional vs imperative programming debate, and I say that as someone who's mostly on the imperative side. The top row of the "perimeter" is very "functional".

It's interesting to note that people from the same school of thought as those who built Unix (or even the same actual people) ended up creating Golang, which is anything but a functional language.
> Ethical systems are not the same as the kinds of religious beliefs I was talking about. Ethical systems have practical consequences that can be tested.

Good luck testing one of the currently accepted "ethical system"-type religious beliefs.

The only kind of outcome of such a test that is "allowed" is full agreement with the ethical system. A lot of these systems are just as self-reinforcing and barely based in reality as Christian apologetics of Aquinas or Chesterton. The people holding these beliefs know this on some subconscious level and will viciously attack anyone who disagrees. It is only over time with many such "attacks" that a mass belief will die and be replaced by another one.

In fact, every one of these "ethical" religious beliefs came about the same way: it defeated another commonly agreed upon dogma.

This mechanism by the way is what runs civilization. One meme fighting another.
Video: The Neuroscience of Creativity, Perception, and Confirmation Bias
The use simulations for many things already. That hell's them to determine what to test on animals in many cases, and still they have failures. It's very had to simulate things that we don't know everything about. That's why they do the testing.
With the right blacklist, the old internet is still there.
"stealth-editing"
Did you just adjective adjective?
> you're not being forced to engage with Twitter's algorithm

Maybe not forced, but strongly encouraged. On mobile, a quarter of my screen is taken up with prompts for me to join Twitter.

Before it was made illegal in the USA and the UK in the 1930s, nobody "forced" children to work, they chose to (with the alternative of starvation). Regardless of their right to choose, child labour was seen as a harmful practice and subsequently outlawed.

That being said, I'm not equating Twitter to child labour. My point is that the fact we are not "forced" to do something doesn't mean it's right, or should be allowed.
Show HN: Manage OKRs in Slack
The syntactic sugar is something the optimiser is aware of and isn't just a "do this in a more pretty/stylised way" for the developer, it conveys an intent that this is a construct that can be optimized with a certain level of confidence that you can't get from objects that "look like a duck and quack like a duck" if you squint a little.

And if anything happens that does "deoptimize" it, then if we know the "base" is definitely a class, the paths to handle the "deoptimization" can make better decisions and be able to avoid scrapping everything and falling back to the slow path.
The article doesn’t actually talk about it in any meaningful way. They talk about it in a statistical fashion: most animal studies are underpowered, most don’t publish, etc.

And sure, I think we can all agree that nobody should be doing useless experiments, whether on animals or not.

But that in no way proves the article’s argument, and it hardly even supports it.

Are we going to test out new CRISPR therapeutic delivery systems in humans? We don’t have a non-living system that replicates a circulatory system, an immune system, and a liver. If the author has a suggestion for how to do things like this safely and effectively without animals, I didn’t hear it.
The "job" is really a team of Google researchers, trying to understand why no one calls back recruiters.

By ignoring them, you become more and more interesting to them, and their study. Be wary. Soon they will stalk to IRL.
the person of faith would also counter you with 'overwhelming evidence' of what God is doing for him...

sometimes, this evidence is just subjective, at other times, it is clear and can be measured.

Another analogy that I have heard is that 'magic' is when one is just wowed by what they see without being able to understand how it happens. Apple products bring that 'magic' though it can all be explained away in technical terms if one tried.
Anything, living or not, can be exploited. Being a person or nonhuman animal does not exempt one.
What is the difference of this post and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27095588 ?
Trying to assume as much good faith in the original comment, GP may have been talking about the difference between the original photo and the resulting published jpeg file.
That is combination of great points.

Most of those niche stuff sits in Facebook groups, I bet there are quite a lot of naturist/whatver groups there (probably not posting photos but organizing events or discussing stuff), you have to follow right people on fb/tt/yt.

The creativity is there, for me author of that post misses forest for the trees. Web pages are just secondary artifacts. I don't want my favorite band members sitting in the evening messing with HTML I want them to make music.

Counter culture is about people and what they want to express, sometimes it might be important "how", but for a lot of hobbies "how" is not that much important as long as it is clear and easy to do.

This is why I don't miss "old internet", people are crafty and interesting anyway.
wl-copy/wl-paste from wl-clipboard package for Linux/Wayland.
> I think the problem could have been avoided if she had entered a less strict convent/order (I imagine such a thing exists).

Non-cloistered orders not only exist, but are the largest for both men and women.
As someone who hired using recruitment services one of my most memorable experiences was a quick Google highlighting a proposed candidate was wanted by Interpol for fraud :-)
> It was the record companies

Sony is (and already was back then) a record company. They were a huge chunk of the group making the rules, and were in a much better position than any other electronics company to fight them.
I was just re-watching 2001: A Space Odyssey last night and noticed the Hilton in the space station.
The only thing I can say is 'Markets are irrational' (remember 'toilet-paper') and most people overestimate what they really need (example. Newest iPhone vs older fully functional/supported phone). Given the precarious state of the environment, it would pay to be a mindful consumer.
Wait, I like HN very much, but that's just wrong. HN is basically what one tech-subreddit would be. This is fine, but not very inclusive, just because it is focused. People also like Facebook which is far from simple stuff.

Inclusiveness via simplicity is just one axis in the space of why people like things.
No. That is a net negative. But a cyclist in an unsafe position should be given a path to safety regardless of what happens to other traffic. A cyclist that is not on a roundabout yet is perfectly safe, and stopping traffic on a roundabout to yield to traffic that does not have right of way is not ok.
When we said we wanted plain sites, we meant like this https://lite.cnn.com/en or https://news.ycombinator.com/

We did not mean standardize to big picture smiling people, carousels to more pictures and with just one sentence.
I remember reading Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy when I was young and thinking how amazing it’d be to have a such an all knowing device that could look up anything, but didn’t think it was possible, never imagined everyone would have one in their pocket someday.
I agree with you. Too much bloat somehow.
you said pages
A lot of that stuff is known as humane washing in the animal rights world. Exploiting and inflicting suffering onto animals is almost always unethical. The only way to treat animals ethically is to not test on them at all.
Caddies aren't unique to minidiscs though, CD caddies were a thing too for example. Or do you mean the portable players?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddy_(hardware)#/media/File:C...
MiniDisk and ZIP drives where pretty cool.

It was like a regular disk, but with >100x capacity and writable.

Sad that their creators failed to commercalize them right.
Is Betteridge's Law of Headlines always correct? This article provides the answer
>Why do we need to attack something? If we can't explain and support our view that something is wrong or a bad decision without resorting to attacks, perhaps our argument isn't really that strong?

It's rather the opposite: if we don't resort to attack, comdent the practice, raise the tone, our argument will be weak.

That's because it's not enough to be right. It also need to be memorable and resontant. Else people's eye will just glaze over it.

That's why this post has 218 comments as of now, and you where involved and will remember it better tomorrow, than some purely technical explanation that probably wouldn't even have made it in the first page (or have 0-10 comments, typical of such posts).
>I grew up going to Catholic schools

Me, too. Church every Sunday and Bible studies every week (for many years), plus Catholic school (for a year).

I'm not saying they are one-dimentional. I'm saying their views on many subjects tend to be filtered through their religious belief. Different from a plumber, a banker or a teacher who wouldn't filter their perspectives on many subjects through their vocation.
TLDR: instead of testing on animals we should use computer simulations and tissue cultures instead.

The authors comparison of kernel bugs to lab testing mice is ridiculous to be honest.

The author cherry picks examples like cosmetics to justify their view, failing to acknowledge a long history of successful testing on animals that led to drugs that help reduce human suffering.

All in all I think the post is bad
> That's because there is no such thing as "secular ideology". It's a meaningless phrase.

Yes, there is no such thing, but it does not become meaningless, and so such be called 'something'

It is the opposite, the repudiation of 'religious ideology'

just like there is no such thing as 'cold' - it is the opposite of 'heat' which is measured, but 'cold' as such, holds some value in dialogue, so it is for 'secular ideology'
Residential Real Estate Investment Algorithms?
It seems like there are some primary constraints people look for when searching for a property (E.g. 1% rule, city population size, ect.) , are there any algorithms scaping data to streamline this process? I find it hard to believe people are doing this manually LOL! If not, if anyone is interested in sharing the cost, I will build one for personal use using Zillow's API. I want something that will scrape select US cities and return homes as the popup on Zillow meeting my criteria.
> modern

> `setup.py` / `setup.cfg` / `requirements.txt`

Yeah... no. Considering there are tools like Poetry and `pyproject.toml` superseding setup.*, I wouldn't call the aforementioned "modern"
Well, the argument here is:

(a) if you attack the practice is not abuse. Abuse is when you attack the person.

(b) if you don't have a colorful tone and strongly condemn something, for most the complaint wont even register
The article is makings lots of points, I don't find it well focused which makes it harder to make specific replies. For example it talks a lot about animal experiments in cosmetics, but one of the quotes mentions that those are already outlawed in the EU. So I'm not sure what the point is here, if it is to extend that ban to other countries the author should say so, and it's a point I'd certainly agree with.

The author also claims to some extend that animal experiments can be replaced by other methods. In the general case this is simply wrong, you cannot replace all animal experiments. There are cases where you can gain similar information from other experiments without animals, and those should certainly be further developed. But this is really hard to discuss in general, the specifics matter here and not all animal experiments are equal. Animal experiments are also expensive and time consuming, if there are established and reliable alternatives they will find their use.