skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You gotta look at googles history:

GOOG 411 was free slave labor for voice sample
Captcha is free OCR training first and now road sign detection and image training
AMP so that google can capture the web flow in the name of improving performance

This will be data for AI models specializing in video features of humans:

"AI" generated realistic human expressions which can then be used to do so many things
AI gait detection
aI partial face reconstruction

These all already have further applications which are harmful and will lead to tie in with Google

And in none of the other cases above has google published their compiled dataset. They "own that"

Google is cancer
I think showing the model would immediately trigger the critics to nitpick it like the famous "He is a doctor. She is a nurse." case, so they just don't show it until they figure out a way to avoid that. Moreover, language models are easy to trick into politically incorrect conversations and porn. AI Dungeon's GPT-3 was writing lots of porn, for example.
Hopefully phone UIs can start showing the check mark with more prominence (and information - it should say ‘not spoofed’ instead of ‘verified number’) since it seems the big 3 US carriers have implemented it.
If the government cares enough there's still a way to deal with that. Telcos could be forced not forward spam calls and allowed to not accept connections from known spam sources. Then the foreign telcos would have to choose between cleaning up their act or not being able to route calls to the US anymore. Technically that's easy to implement on peering level.

But international routing is still relatively expensive. In most cases your "international" incoming call is just a local one with spoofed source.
We tend to romanticize the past, not least due to the huge volume of art that survives. But everyday life of a regular person sucked in ways that are hard to imagine for most Western people of 2021. Washing with cold water, shortages of food, exhausting physical work that damaged your body, infectious diseases, living in slums.
Your problem appears to be your entire focus is pointlessly nitpicking the meaning of everyone’s words where enough context exists to trivially disambiguate it.

You gotta pick a better hobby.
I find that calling it a `racist algorithm` doesn't really do it any good unless the behaviour was intentional. This is a case of poor training data the same as google image classification messing up with tags.
Does HN have an RSS feed?
Those are nice features, indeed.

The community license may require clarification. It says the following: For example, it does not allow hosting of Hypertrace Metrics, Application Flow, Advanced Slice & Dice or other software licensed under the Traceable Community License as online service offerings that compete with Traceable SaaS products or services that provide the same software. If you are not doing what is excluded, this license will not affect you.

The part "Traceable SaaS products or services that provide the same software" seems deceptively simple yet it's vague. My interpretation would be the following: if I operate a PaaS, regardless of the primary function of this PaaS, where tracing plays a complimentary role, stay away from CL items as any platform with Hypertrace in it "provides same software".

Are you in a position to clarify?
The 10x count is comparing death certificates with official counts; you are right.

And a significant portion of the families especially low income families don't even get death certificates. There were people that died and their fatality will never be recorded anywhere anytime.
select() is useful on platforms without any poll variants.
I get ones with my number but the last 4 digits different - this worked the first few times I got them in 2019 but they’re definitely spoofed and I imagine they have a higher success rate than using real numbers.
> For the same reason that "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer".

Not even justice system uses that rule.
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The source quoted in the article is a local language newspaper, the wire is not the original source. Others have carried it as well. eg. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/61k-covid-deaths-n...

Other reports from cremations in multiple cities have been approximately similar. https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1384782984138694658?...

You're right that it isn't 10x everywhere. India as a whole is probably 3-5x, but the point that it is 10-100x in the very worst areas is also true. Some places in UP and Bihar are reporting no COVID deaths at all. People are dying of 'cough and fever'

Finally, at a pan India level, while the government refuses to count deaths accurately, it has done sero-surveys. Those have consistently shown antibodies in 25-60% of the population (before this new wave) with the higher figures reported from poorer denser areas.

As of now, even after the new wave, official figures say about 2% of our population has been infected.
Big model also means lots of data, including lots of unfiltered garbage used in training. Nobody can manually review so much data, all they can do is automated filtering at this scale. So this means the model has a large attack surface and it is going to be used to do something bad and shame itself when put together with critics determined to find those gaps.

We have seen in the last few months attacks on Google Translate, GPT-3 and other language models from the PC crowd, including the famous AI Ethics firings. It's just tricky to show it in this climate.

The PC crowd don't believe language is fair and concepts neutral, instead saying they are an expression of systems of power. So language models are a natural target for them because they could amplify biases against their identity groups.

I find this critique hasty especially because big language models are nascent technology. We shouldn't throw away the baby with the bath water!
This isn't "better search" it's entrenched market domination from the only player with enough smarts, data and (crucially) users to make this work.

While Google is building a bigger and "better" Behemoth we should ask if this kind of innovation is really doing anything at all to make the world a better place in a meaningful way. Better monetization of search seems like a way to make the world worse in my opinion.
Just to put some numbers on this, have a look at the “deaths/1M pop” column in this table:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

It’s clear that the official numbers are almost an order of magnitude out vs countries that do more testing (e.g. US).

If you take the official global average death rate of 2% and apply it to India’s case count you’ll get roughly double the number of officially reported deaths.

The news coming out of India is tragic and given the lack of infrastructure in rural areas and the shortage of medical supplies we keep hearing about the “1 order magnitude out” is starting to look like a lower bound.
Pretty strong disagree on this. I prefer working on teams that optimize for execution speed and just hire people who won’t go up in flames in that environment.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27217737
I don't think you quite appreciate what a cesspool the Internet can be, especially when you plan to run a service that's going to be basically unmoderated. The amount of material to review is going to absolutely overwhelm the few volunteers. So what are you doing when there are not enough reviewers? Is your platform going to block that content until it is reviewed, or show it until it is reviewed? Now, whichever option you choose, take a minute to think about how it would be exploited.

As for your idea on "real penalties"... Somebody posts abusive material, and as a penalty the platform would distribute more of their material? Harsh. Oh, I sure hope they don't close my throwaway account created from a VPN IP. How could I ever replace it with a new one?

People doing this work professionally get psychological counseling for it. You simply could not subject normal users to it. Not morally, not legally, and not if you want to actually run a business.

I don't know what kind of support the judicial systems give juries who have to view that kind of material. But at least in those cases there are real consequences if the defendant is found guilty. Not so on the Internet.
I'm not authorized and started getting the new ads about a week ago (with wipr).
How is this possible in 2021:

"Due to a limitation in pip, if you are upgrading from Ansible 3 (or earlier), you need to uninstall Ansible and Ansible Base before installing Ansible 4"
Nice. I'd like to see the numpad in the center.
Would you mind cussing them out after they've normalized PWAs as first class citizens, and RSS is a common technology among even techies again.
You're comment made me think about why we actually use slack/IM when email is just as capable and I think the answer is that I can have notifications turned on for IM and I can't do that for email. Which means I respond much slower to email.

IM is one of the last places on the internet not filled with automated crap, advertisers and spam. And to be fair, some of that automated crap I actually want and browse through at a later time but IM explicitly separates real time messages and newsletters.
The notion that adequate moderation requires watching every second of video at 1:1 speed is such a strawman on so many levels I don't even know how to respond.
> Historically ads were easily blocked

Historically ads were served by the site owner at their own discretion. Prior to that ads were served by TV and radio channels. None of those approaches were easy to block.

Dedicated ad networks on separate domains are relatively recent fad (since ~15 years ago). A lot websites still ship first-party ads, many have never stopped to.
I just leave my phone on mute and never answer it.
Most things can be interpreted politically.

That doesn't mean "here's why I blame COVID on my political opponents, AKA the evil-doers", is an interesting or useful start to a discussion. If it is, the counterpoint about protests is equally valid.
It was never dead.

If you like RSS, don't rely on Google. They'll probably kill it again [0] after this experiment runs its course, or wait until more people adopt it by default and then try to break yet another open standard.

If you'd like a recommendation, Feedbin is fantastic.

0] https://killedbygoogle.com/
It's less technology and more operations research. Dumping large volumes of unwanted calls into the US market can be monetized and scaled, and the response from US industry/regulators/law-enforcement is anemic enough that being fraudulent and illegal doesn't put a damper on things.
A reason to be wary about USDC are that their haven't been audited, just attested https://www.circle.com/en/usdc , and not even recently at that.

Note that attestations are easy to fake: the article mentions the case of Tether

> Failing to complete an audit and settling on an attestation “for transparency”. The morning of the attestation, tether moved $380m from sister company bitfinex into a bank account to pass the verification
Having a well-reasoned argument doesn't justify abusive language. And just because there are bad people in the world doesn't mean it's okay to treat them badly. Sometimes abuse and badness are necessary, such as in war or for self-defense. But when it's not necessary, it shouldn't be used just because you find yourself on the convenient side of the moral picket fence.
I donated to the Chief Minister State fund of Tamil Nadu ans I am originally from there.

https://ereceipt.tn.gov.in/cmprf/Cmprf

As far as I know, the state of Tamil Nadu is doing a good job in being transparent with the funds.
of course I mean the original. I agree making it into a standalone was a great idea and Heroes of Newerth was amazing. LoL remains a blatant low quality ripoff whose success is due entirely to the novelty of the genre.
FAANGs have massive intern support programs and their interviews aren’t usually like this. Interns are the ultimate try before you buy so for orgs with the ability they’re worth it.
I think your last challenges the concept of who exactly is the consumer?

Thanks for the thoughtful reply!
I doubt this has anything do whatsoever with laws. If it laws then something would prevent me from installing software from other countries on my computer.
If we're all bunched into small communities, there is no 'at scale'.

I regularly hang out in several different communities of thousands of people, including this one. All of them, except the really small ones, have one or a few people who moderate the forums, and ways to report things that are posted. If someone posts a link to disturbing video to HN, it's going to disappear right quick; even if the source lives on. If I try out a community where there's a lot of disturbing videos posted, I'm going to stop going there; but other people might go there specifically because of those video links. If the videos are legal, that's their business and none of mine; I don't want to see it, and by avoiding their community, I won't.
This is too abstract. Goods aren't one dimensional in value so 100% efficiency isn't always sensical or desirable. Think of massive food waste and the option to only eat as much as you please for almost whatever you want. Eliminating all food waste would mean reducing the ability to explore different tastes, hypermonitoring your calorie consumption and appetites, and in all likelihood moving to a liquid diet globally so we can increment food doses just in time. Food tastes are so diverse and the supply chain so risk laden that under our current consumption demands some waste is inevitable.
Does is actually matter for Facebook as a business? Outside the HN bubble, very few users will actually quit just because some random page was suspended. Most users won't even notice.
> If it’s not from a known contact, it’s probably not urgent and they can leave a message.

Debt collectors, doctors' receptionists, local police departments...all of these can be relatively urgent calls and will likely not be known contacts.
Let’s define dead: it was very mainstream at one point, you had to have rss if you had a content site. And now it’s absolutely irrelevant except to a small niche of users.

It’s dead.
It isn't really a semantic issue. Removing someone's communication from your site is literally censorship. It's simply not govt censorship. But censorship by quasi-monopolies makes it arguably similar and still an ethics debate.
thanks - its really helpful to hear the warts-and-all version of experience like this. Appreciated!
The thing is, small forums can wind up being completely good or completely bad, because the net quality of a small mod team has a high variance. So if you look properly, you can find the good ones. On a big platform, you wind up with a very uniform mediocrity.
"Since MUM can surface insights based on its deep knowledge of the world"
Which just means taken from the millions of websites written by humans and used without permission or any payment.
>If you have data to back up the 10-100x claim, please share it.

15x more death certificates issued.

10x lower death per million wrt comparable countries

Much more rural deaths in second wave which were totally not counted.

The "daily bhaskar" did an investigative report in couple of districts and said it was 20-40x.

I am not trying to fear monger. Just obey the lockdown, use the mask and get the vaccines. And when things return to normal focus on development instead of egoistical statues and temples.
Also: https://hnrss.github.io/
I'm not so sure. I think it's really questionable if the SCM used is a major factor in deciding what open source project one wants to contribute to? "I would want to contribute to OpenBSD, but they use CVS, so I won't" - really? o_O

I get that github is probably the "lowest barrier to entry" here, but providing the "lowest barrier" is probably not even in OpenBSD's interest here. It's the same with some operating systems not providing graphical installers and whatnot. I could see not using github in a similar light here. If it's a simple bug fix or a one line change, reporting it is sufficient, a dev will fix it. If one's engagement is supposed to go much further, I don't think CVS is such a big hurdle? Or am I misjudging here?
I’ve put a felt mat under mine and for the brief period of time I tried it tented I had no issue with sliding.

It was like £8 on Amazon so might be worth a try.
A "small niche" is a big exaggeration. It's nowhere near dead.
The clients they transferred it for turned out to be murderous drug cartels. But as far as I can see HSBC actually followed all the rules at the time; much has been made of the fact that they lowered the level of controls applied to those transfers for commercial reasons, but the law required them to judge the appropriate level within a particular range, and the level they applied afterwards was still within the legal range for Mexico. Yet whenever they come up on HN you'll hear people talking like they were killing people.

(They reached a settlement where they paid money and made an apology statement rather than going to court, as would most entities in their position).
Any advice on finding an angel investor?
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> I would also expect the value of the electronics industry, and its profits, to rise. Where's the additional money to denote that value coming from?

Value does not come from money. Real value comes from the goods and services actually produced. As for whether profits increase, that depends. An increase in productivity in an industry might not necessarily entail an increase in profits for those in that industry. That's the basis for cartels, restriction production in order to boost profits.

> Goods and services that don't follow normal supply-demand logic (education) or have excessive regulation controlling supply (healthcare, real estate) are the exception to this.

This is not necessarily the case, i.e., services can decline in price as well as output increases. If, for example, the money supply were fixed but there were now twice as many workers, there is half the amount of money to go around for each person (but this is not really a problem because money is only useful as far as it is used to purchase goods and services, and in this scenario there are now twice as many goods and services to go around, so it balances out). So if the money supply were completely fixed, you would expect the price of everything to decline over time. However, historically, before the Federal Reserve, prices were relatively stable over periods as long as a hundred years. This is probably because the money supply was not actually fixed - it was backed by gold, and the more the economy grew, the more gold could be mined.

> The government printed more money to pay for the war, but it could alternatively have taken on more debt

Well, this is precisely how the Federal Reserve system works (at least in theory). It doesn't simply hand the government a blank check (although these days it might as well). It lends money to the government to spend. Actually, the process is slightly more convoluted. The government borrows money by selling bonds, and then bondholders sell those bonds to the Fed.

Regardless, the end result is the same, an influx of created money entering the economy. Other forms of lending plays a central part in money creation, through what's called the money multiplier, and the Fed has traditionally targeted inflation by lowering interest rates, making it cheaper to borrow money, encouraging more borrowing, and thereby increasing the money multiplier. So in any event, the cause of inflation is an expansion of the money supply. The money printer by itself is responsible for only M0, but other actions by the government can grow or shrink the larger money supply (M2).
I'm curious how well this will work from a legal perspective.

I assume the lawsuit will allow them to do discovery with various 3rd parties to try and identify the perpetrators.
> You can already use url() to load background images - seems like this is a solved vector.

Background image with url() is very easy to be whitelisted because it's very similar to <img> tag.

> Does this really increase the attack surface area, since you can't execute javascript from the iframe?

Sorry, this concern isn't about security for browsers, but for text editable email without indication. Maybe you can argue that it's not a problem because external image is already replaceable, but IMO it's more problematic.

> No, because that's not in the HTML/CSS spec and modern browsers don't support it.

Blacklist approach means that any tags just work unless explicitly specified on blacklist. "Not in spec" won't help.

> Seems like a solved problem considering there's currently no way to execute arbitrary javascript in webmail.

That's thanks to whitelist approach.
Running the app is not mandatory and neither is adding buttons to the interface. If you just need content blockers, you can simply enable just them, close the app and forget about it until you feel the need to check filters updates.
Lol, I like and use RSS.

Given recent conversations, I just have to point out that RSS goes right into email. Great match, will work like a treat, just saying.
I don’t want to run tests, I want to drive the browser for the customer. I guess it’s time to learn chrome extensions
Ansible is way, way, way more popular than Kubernetes in the real world.

(Yeah, k8s does a whole lot more and is more opinionated, but still...)
I strongly suspect that once you answer a few spam calls, or a few calls where they hang up immediately (this has to be some sort of probe)-- you end up with many more spam calls.

My personal cell, I do not answer voice calls unless I know your number-- I get one or two calls a week.

My house phone however-- much like you a family member had a medical issue-- and we had to start answering the phone. Over the course of a week the number of spam calls went from 3-4 a day to 12ish a day. After the medical issue was settled, we stopped answering random calls, and within a few weeks the number of calls settled back down to a few a day.
Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27210819.
And here is what Jake Henry, the antispam engineer of Discord, said:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25224151
ZSA Moonlander is made to order, try that one.
Nickserv registration went to my spam folder on Protonmail, as a datapoint.
As a counterpoint, they have had those lessons and so could have learned from them if they were perceptive.
This is exactly me as well.. I filter through a good 1K articles and posts a day in very little time using this method.
These Five Principles Will Accelerate Innovation – Steve Blank
When the content people create is pushed aside and instead used by a giant corp. without any payment, it is safe to assume that people will stop writing content.
I’d still say more harm is done by carelessness and people intending to do good than by people actually intending harm. It’s not like the choice is binary between stupidity and malice.

The situation here is likely carelessness even more than stupidity, because running an electric grid is pretty complex. This was just a little... well, big detail they overlooked.
The reasonable doubt standard does require the benefit of doubt go towards innocence. Presumably the goal is for more guilty to go free than innocent being punished.
>Since COVID takes out mostly old people with multiple life threatening conditions

My brother's two employees died. One was 28 and other in 30's. No complications, physically active people.