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>a standard of objective fairness and justice which would be better defined by deterministic, logical languages like programming languages rather than fuzzy, broad languages like English.

Can you formally define concepts and events occurring in a "fuzzy, broad" world in a useful way? It is kind of amusing to imagine that someone out there is sitting around with a recursively-enumerable objective statement of what constitutes fairness.
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I use CxxTest¹ but there is also GoogleTest².

Neither of these suck nor are they tied to a single platform.

¹ http://cxxtest.tigris.org/

² http://code.google.com/p/googletest/
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From the article: "Worldwide spam is now down to one in every 1.37 emails. In the United States, spam accounts for 73.7% of all emails."

This is classic journalism, putting two related facts in the same sentence, but in such a way as to make comparison really really hard.

It's like saying that the average height of people world-wide is 1.8m, but in the US it's 6 foot. Huh?

So - for the record, 1 in 1.37 is 72.99%. So this sentence could, and should read;

"Worldwide spam is now down to 72.99% of all emails. In the United States, it accounts for 73.7% of all emails."

I'm guessing that .7% is well within their margin of error, meaning that the paragraph overall is somewhat redundant.

Then a bunch of graphs, with no Y-Axis scale showing vast up and down fluctuations further erode what credibility the author had left.

In short - a fluff piece devoid of the really interesting information.
You are correct, I currently live under a common law derived system, and my research into actually translating a legal system to code has led me to believe that the best place to start would be a civil law based system, though I had been mostly looking into scandinavian countries prior to this link. Thanks for that, just to be clear though, is civil code specific to Quebec or is it all of Canada on a civil law derived system? If it's Quebec only I'm guessing my grasp of English isn't much going to help me but if it's all of Canada I'm thinking this could be a much better starting point than the Scandinavian systems as I don't speak any of those languages fluently.
One huge difference is that the practice of law is still controlled by a professional association that many people feel behaves like a cartel. Anyone is free to read an online python book, install mysql, and hang out a shingle as a web programmer. In my opinion, that's a really good thing.

There's a lot of disagreement around "scope" - some people are actually opposed to almost any restriction of practice, even in areas like medicine and law. Other people want to see similar associations/cartels (depending on your point of view) set up for software development. There's also a big middle ground, people who do see a justification for credentialing and licensing in some cases, but who think that the scope of what requires a license has expanded far beyond what was reasonable and needed to protect the public. I tend to fall in the middle group, but with a high degree of suspicion of cartels.

There's also some funny business on the demand side for law. America's truly byzantine tax code, for instance, provides lots of employment for $500/hr lawyers. Imagine if programmers could mandate that all code had to be written in the most bloated enterprise java possible, and had to be written by people with three year graduate degrees from programs largely inaccessible to international students. This would include many tasks that could otherwise have been handled by smart people with no degree who read the book. Anyone who didn't comply could be prevented by legal force from practicing, or even sent to prison. Now you'd have something comparable to the legal profession.
If the author had been a Lisp hacker, the conclusion of this amusing polemic would have ended with the announcement of a project to create the One True Dialect. I don't see why he doesn't, though based on others' comments, it's apparently because he is a troll.

I've always been charmed by Smalltalk, though having spent years in 90% functional programming land (mostly Scheme and Clojure), I
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Well I learned to read math the 'computer' way. So here two examples of 'Math' vs 'Computer'

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funnily enough, apple.com has a dark grey bar across the top but i've never heard you open your mouth about it, and you're quite known to open your mouth about anything. your opinion is pointless and useless because you are such a fanboi
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Bubbles have nothing to do with this. You're talking about a list of people you chose to see updates from. This has nothing to do with algorithmic surfacing of content. It's your own fault if you make a circle called "Liberal Bros" and only ever visit that one.
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It actually does that too! https://twitter.com/#!/albertlai/status/85954355496370176
I don't know. CyanogenMod allows to download official Google apps in a zip file.

If these apps are 100% java (no native arm code) as I think they are, then It might be possible to run them.

Another possible use for this would be to run apps and record the screen. Since this is x86 emulation, this should be much faster than the ARM simulator, so this would make really fluid screencasts.
> attempts to reduce discretion have historically resulted in malicious arbitrariness

You're 90% of the way to the answer. Take into account Hanlon's Razor and it should become clear.

Unless the people designing the law are smart enough to take into account every single edge case, we're faced with a choice between gross miscarriages of justice through inflexible laws, and gross miscarriages of justice through incompetent or corrupt judges.

We know the people designing the law aren't that smart; and even if they were, the laws are already too complicated. The only solution is to strike a balance between the two types of errors that minimizes their sum.
So it that's true, then it's no better than what Facebook has with lists, etc.
I posted this in the comments of the article; but what I would like to see is a link between Google+ and Android Market such that each application I publish creates a dynamic circle. The dynamic circle would contain anyone that has installed my application, if they have chosen to allow it.

Create a system-wide setting in the Android Market around whether to allow this and then if someone wants to get more granular they can use Google Plus. Their email would be masked so that I could not see the address but it would let me contact my customers.

I think this would help address some existing issues while giving Google's android market a way to be very different from the existing app stores.
Note that his point here is not with the expressive power of Smalltalk, but with the complexity it puts in front of the programmer. Workarounds or the existence of ancient wisdom about why things are the way they are aren't really responding to the point he is making.

I agree that 6 and 9 are very weak points.

bashing functional languages - the rants detract from the seriousness of the good points the author makes, who seems to be pushing a Common Lisp is the true way line. In fact, ideas from pure functional programming could clean up several of his exceptions: in support of this I can point to Peter van Roy's comments on PL design convergence.

http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1805
Where does this money go? I opened a company in Cyprus and paid a few thousand Euros, but it turned out that this was all for lawyers and accountants, and what was actually necessary was only filling out a few forms and 10 euros, if I recall correctly.
Facebook has done everything that can to turn into Twitter + Flickr for people who know your real name.

You can't use apps, look at friends apps, or do anything else interesting.

Facebook has made itself a social address book, and dragged down everyone who bought into their "platform".
To the extent that applications defining the class to which you believe your behaviour exists and allowing you to test it with a high degree of specificity, yes. There have been explicit ventures along this exact path previously in a more limited extent, that being financial products having python based code that would allow the investors to put in a set of assumptions and see what the product model would do under those circumstances.

Fairness itself is a fuzzy concept, sure, but writing clearly delineated code that deals with reality in a concrete fashion with the goal of being fair is the only way that fairness even enters the equation.
It will still be seen by more people, and let the author know that this was appreciated/to write more stuff like this.
But PGP gives the wrong guarantees.
I've noticed an increase of comment spam on reddit, as well. The spammers there sometimes have quite clever algorithms using phrases of top-voted comments and embedding links in them.
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I tried it in a VirtualBox. Runs smoother than the emulator from the Android Development Kit, but still a bit sluggish. I'll give it another try on my netbook.
??? You are getting more than 4,000 spam emails a day now and were above 30,000? Do you have your email listed publicly?

Also how do you automate the counting and storing it in the spreadsheet? I think that's pretty damn cool.
I def. see facebook fizzling out over the next 5-10 years as they get more aggressive in trying to wall people into their network and try to weave their way into government and banking.
I am doing this with patents. Google "Killing patents with Python" if you want to see the presentation.
Is AOSP ever going to get the 3.x branch? Will the 4.x code be released? It's starting to be a serious bummer.
The problem with .NET is that nobody knows what it is.

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interact with the operating system

You're saying it as if Java and Java Swing do not interact with Windows.

It is true that (e.g.) Windows Forms is built with Win32 in mind and is using native widgets, but on the other hand nothing prevents you from porting it and you can check out the Mono implementation, which is functional and runs on Linux and OS X.

Of course, Java Swing is a much more portable implementation of a GUI toolkit, but even Java Swing makes Win32 calls and it is also cursed with the common-denominator problem.

the dependency of .Net on Win32

Other than a couple of instances where you can clearly see that the design of Windows had a clear influence on .NET, Win32 is certainly not a dependency of .NET

Sure, most .NET apps won't run on Linux or OS X, but that's mostly because their developers have been interacting with native code that isn't easily portable, but P/Invoke is so kick-ass that writing new managed bindings to native modules is a piece of cake, so devs are inclined to do that when it makes sense for them, instead of (say) search for a portable alternative.
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Yes, 4.0 will be released, and there will also be notebooks on the market with Android 4.0 by holidays I think (made by Asus, etc). But Looking forward to the 4.0 version for my own netbook, too.
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Now that they have moved to Froyo this might be a better alternative to develop/test apps on as opposed to the extremely slow emulator. Hopefully there is a VBox/Vmware compatible image available.
I used to work in the lab in question, though nowhere near this project. (And I'm ridiculously proud of my colleagues right now. :D )

To answer your question, setting the components on fresh ink is often sufficient but not always. IIRC, components were often put in place and then "drawn over" a second time with the pen, or small beads of ink were put in place.

I saw cross-overs demonstrated simply using normal white-out (!) after the first trace was dry, but I no longer have access to a journal subscription so I'll have to bug my colleagues for a copy before I know if that is what was used in the publication.
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i agree. but this problem especially matters when you start offering complex things such as sw development as a simple package that anyone with plain idea can get.

i seriously wish you good luck with this project though. let us know what was your experience with this promo.
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> Some ways of proposing expensive fake solutions to nonexistant problems are even legal.

Could you give some examples?
Seems like nothing in Google+ is original, simply a mash-up of other social media services that already exist.
Definitely. I ran a forum with quite a few users, and spent way too much time dealing with spam. :( I've found that the best way to avoid forum spam is indirect methods. Instead of a captcha, I set an invisible section where only newbies could see - and that's the only area they could post. After one post there, they were upgraded to regular member.
"Cool" is actually a good adjective and a sign that Google will be competitive in "social". I like Facebook, but they haven't done anything particularly compelling (i.e. provoking me to say "Hey, cool") for me since they added chat years ago.

The speed of their product has improved impressively and the mobile site has achieved commendable parity with the "full site", but they're really not delivering new experiences. And that's a little bit damning. Great technology products can create mind-blowing new experiences and the lasting companies deliver those experiences regularly.

Plus looks cool, though. I've been Skyping for years, but the way they show you seamlessly jumping from the news feed to a video chat strikes me as something new. I'm intrigued by "Sparks". At least for me, Facebook is a deadzone when it comes to real discussion - if Google can make a format that combines social networking with Reddit-like discussion, they'll take over.
Absolutely! BigLaw is (was?) a house of cards waiting for the right circumstances to blow it over. My law practice is only part time, and I run it like my software company operates - lean, innovative and hellbent on providing really good value for clients. I have more than enough legal clients in the pipeline to keep me busy and my startup background gives me a great foundation for advising my target clients. As for tools to run my practice, if I can't get what I need at a reasonable price I build it and make it available to my colleagues at a reasonable price.
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Sometimes I look in my Gmail's Spam folder and see 100+ Russian emails that are all spam. Why do these even get to me? It makes no sense - they are all 100% spam.

Google surely has algorithms that can show them that 200,000 almost identical emails were sent during x minutes from the same IP. They have the technology to detect it as spam - so why not just auto-delete it? What does Google gain from me even having the option to see these emails?
A big part of this is the more consistent flow, yes. Two of the major factors in the ink design were balancing the viscous properties of the ink (mildly shear-thinning, iirc) with the need to keep the silver nanoparticle concentration as high as possible.

(Disclaimer: I am a former member of the Lewis group, but didn't work on this project myself.)
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Yes.

(says the Android dev next to me)

https://groups.google.com/group/android-x86/browse_thread/th...

Is this complete or perfect... perhaps not... but does it work... yes. Probably stamps over some license issues, you're not supposed to have the market on a non-grace of Google device.
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Having been in Big Law myself, I have previously set forth my thoughts at some length on this topic (see http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1648342).

Fundamentally, law remains a guild system, with the governing licensing restrictions severely limiting the ability to innovate. Only licensed persons can be owners of firms and only licensed persons can provide the key services. No fee-splitting or profit sharing is permitted with any person who is not licensed. Even one who is licensed is limited is performing services other than in the locale for which he is licensed. All of this may be well and good for "maintaining standards," as the bar associations say, but it means this is and will remain a closed profession that remains remote and removed from average people.

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Thanks for the link.

I guess I'm trying to figure out why there's so much excitement about a server that is not designed to spread the workload to multiple cores for you.
I still don't see the point of a service like this. With a tiny bit more work you have them on your own server, and you have all the control. If Google tomorrow decides to stop serving fonts, your design won't be broken.

With some services I understand people rather have it externally has it's a hassle to do it yourself, but @font-face is too easy to not do it.
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Yep, I remember the Archos tablets not having the Market because it wasn't licensed (or something to that effect), but there were some "leaked" Market apks so you could run it. These ran a bit too well to be leaked by a third party, but the point is that you can install the .apks in theory.

I just didn't know if they'd run on an x86 processor, so this is good news.
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I'm sorry to disagree with you, but a huge problem in state legislatures is that the congressmembers are NOT lawyers and write legislation that is really costly to sort out when it gets litigated.
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Good luck with the code base on that such apps... :)
Depends on how you define "help". The reason there are so many unemployed JDs is that there are too many lawyers, and allowing people who didn't go to law school to take bar exams would make that problem even worse.

On the other hand, if people could become lawyers without taking on $100,000 in not-dischargeable-under-any-circumstances debt, they would be able to make a living at a much more reasonable salary than is currently necessary, which would allow the market for legal services to start correcting itself.

What really needs to happen is that the bar pass rate needs to be lowered significantly in markets that are over-saturated (pretty much any big city). It should probably even be lowered to zero (ie stop offering the bar exam) for a couple of years in states like New York.
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Yep, my default sharing option is "Friends Only; Except: Work"

Only bummer is that you can't do fancy options like that with the Facebook iPhone app. You can only do your default, the normal options like Friends Only, or specific groups.
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I'm in the same position as bad_user above.

What happens when you visit http://plus.google.com/ ?
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If it makes you feel better, most of them surely have their wall set to only show the friends they interact with, and not all friends.
It's pretty obvious why this is happening and it was expected. Microsoft doesn't want you to go cross-platform. Going fully closed-based means they won't have as much power on the OS side. Plus, they make a lot more money from the OS and software (Office) and they don't think they'll make as much from the cloud services.

So it's Microsoft's profit incentive to keep you locked in on their OS, while Google's profit incentive is to make u go cross-platform and use the cloud. The web is Google's home turf where they make most of their money, so it's in their best interest to do that.

Both Microsoft and Apple will never be really serious about the web, because at the end of the day that's not their main priority. Their main priority is to get you to use Windows/iOS and to buy their (Apple's) devices.
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You sound like my kind of lawyer. We should be organizing like-minded lawyers and forcing changes on a bigger scale.

Please get in touch with me. My firm's homepage should appear in my profile.
To me, the value of merging stories would be in uncluttering the front page and keeping the comments together; an "ask" post does neither.

That said, merging stories in the above way would be tremendously useful. Then again, more people only upvoting one "canonical" story would also help - after all, yet another article isn't terribly valuable.
Google+ is cool. I got an invite from a friend interning with Google and have been playing with this as much as I can, but it is boring right now as I have few friends to connect with on it.

However, the design is good and I think this is the first true competitor to Facebook. I personally would really like to see Facebook have so strong competition, especially on features like privacy which Google+ has done right.
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