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I am amazed at projects that allow toxic people to disrupt and mistreat other project members. I'm amazed when people defend bullies because they've got some kind of oldschool hacker credibility.

Not having to listen to "a hacker with a deservedly excellent reputation" say he'd like to cut off your hands so you can't code any more is absolutely not a loss to the project. It's a proper and right kind of excision to remove toxic bullies like that no matter how correct was the substance of their report.

(And as it turns out, the overwhelming majority of his reports were duplicates of existing reports, so it's not even a loss of the actual bug reports, just the nasty name calling and abusive and threatening behavior. I call that a win for the project.)
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Exactly.

You don't seem to be introspective enough to realize that your problem is thus not with "men", but with unattractive men. Pretty obligatory link:

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/sexual_harassment.htm

It's not unwelcome if Tom Brady does it. So computer scientists get it in the neck twice, as they are enriched for unattractive men AND blamed for excluding women.
Sure you can take abuse when you are paid, except they are doing it for free and deserve better treatment.
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Yeah, unfortunately for everyone he was only warned on the worst of the interactions and given a second chance. Sometimes a ban on the first offense is better. Still, a ban after a failure to heed a warning seems completely reasonable. Heck, a re-evaluation of the original interaction with the knowledge of how he behaved after the warning would have worked too. But again, the important thing isn't where the ban happened, it's that the project rejected a bully.
Everyone, including Randall Munroe, is free to note the "obvious fact" that men make most unwelcome sexual advances.

No one is free to note the "obvious fact" that men make most of the welcome technological advances.
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Even though it may be hard in some cases, having some self-control here will only help you. Bug reports (or helpdesks, for that matter) are not the place to express frustration.
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He was given a warning and a second chance after the awful behavior in other bugs. When he failed to heed that warning he was banned. If you had read the report, you'd have seen that he had been given a previous warning. That's key information. Weren't you curious about the previous warning? Didn't it occur to you that he might have already been treading on really thin ice and continued misbehavior, even minor might be enough to tip the balance? It doesn't seem to me that you were. It seemed to me you were stepping up to his defense without all the facts. That's a dangerous thing to do because you might find that you're defending someone that's you'd rather not be.
I'm in support of Google changing the policy, I just think that slandering a culture is unnecessary to get a simple oversight fixed. I'm suggesting that the vast majority of men (and women) are respectful of people and that there are a few who are not that we tend to notice. (selection bias).

Sorry shitty things happen to you because of your gender, shitty things have happend to me because of my gender. Most women are phenomenal people but just like men some are really shitty people.

We don't need to figure out who the biggest victim group is, it's irrelevant.

We need figure out ways to stop it from happening. If it was a man who caused you undue grief and pain then let me be the first to empathize on behalf of the gender I share with people who have treated you with disrespect. No I'm probably not going to understand what it is like to be you in our society, just like you're not going to understand what it's like to be me in our society. If we can get a little closer to understanding than that's a step in the right direction. If we can work together to solve each others problems then that's even better.

If Google+ having privacy with regard to gender will help you to have a better life then I support that. I don't need to understand what it's like to be a woman in our society to know that if you say a trivial change will help you that doesn't affect me in the least then I support getting that feature changed. I'm very much in favor of achieving a more polite and respectful society, regardless of the reasonable steps we need to take to achieve that.
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Linus has no qualms of telling someone he is full of BS:

http://pardel.wordpress.com/2007/09/07/90/
Here's an update on the click discrepancy issue. Ricky from Crowdbooster (YC S10) notified me about this click policy for promoted tweets.

Promoted Tweets: When a user clicks on the Promoted Tweet to open it in the details pane, or clicks on a link or hashtag within the Tweet copy.

That is, I had a hashtag within the tweet, and so that probably accounted for half the clicks. Now why someone would click on the hashtag when they're already on a hashtag search, I'm not sure -- maybe to refresh the page?

The above is probably the first order effect. Other new theories that are probably second order (but real). 1) Intermediate proxies could be caching the images. 2) Duplicate clicks from the same user.
Yes, thank you. We indeed did feature prioritization and have three release dates for alpha, beta and final 1.0.

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Shame on the culture that promotes hostility, but attractiveness is a personal decision. You just have to accept that some people just don't like old fat bald guys.

As much as it may seem surprising to the group of HNers that are single men that have no luck with talking to women, I am a girl that has been rejected by plenty of guys in the past for not wearing much makeup (if at all), being obsessed with certain topics to the point of overkill, spending too much time on the computer and out-geeking them (that apparently really makes them feel less manly), being Asian (and not being of Japanese heritage...yes really), being in my early 20s, being fat...

Deal with it. For every guy that has a fat Asian fetish is a guy that wants to sleep with a size 0 blonde Caucasian girl. Being an old, fat, bald guy is not the end of the world.
I prefer rehabilitation to exile, if at all possible.
I would say it is uncommon.
Thx for the idea! So that would presumably try to get the link in the stream more -- that's the idea, right? I guess ideally the people would notice the @replies and like them so much they would retweet to double the effect.

Too bad you don't still live in Philly :(.
When they continue to be abusive after a warning it doesn't really matter where mechanically the actual trigger was pulled. It was the right call. It was a late call, in my opinion. I'd have banned him at the "cut off his hands" comment with no warning and now recourse. But again, late or not, it was the right call. No project should have to tolerate bullies. They are toxic to the project and they should be excised as soon as possible.
I would have thought Twitter would de-duplicate such clicks as well...
This is a random question, but why doesn't amazon just have a HVM flag on instance creation?

Is it to try and better DRM the windows machines?
Which really is irrelevant to the subject at hand.
You can't compare it this way. Xerox Parc and DARPA are research organizations.

NASA is a research and development organization. they products that are used in real life.

Usually development and deployment cost much more than pure research.
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Enjoyment is in absolutely no way a necessary condition for bullying. Bullying is abusive treatment, often directed repeatedly at specific individuals. That's what was happening here. "You know, every time I see a comment from [a specific Thunderbird developer] I just want to reach out through the intertubes and cut off his damned fingers to prevent him ever writing any code" That is about as clear a case of bullying I've seen in the 13 years I've been involved in Mozilla.

You can make all the excuses you want for him, and you can re-define bullying if you like, but he has gone well beyond "not seeing the need to spare people's feelings" here. He has verbally attacked people and he thinks he can get away with it because of his hacker credibility. "Because I'm a great programmer and you're a nobody programmer, I can call you names and tell you to die die die and tell you I'd like to cut off your fingers so you can't code any more. That's about as crisp a case of bullying as I can think of.
If you let people treat you this way because they also happen to provide some value, then you're enabling them and encouraging the behaviour. People who behave in this manner should be ostracised.
How would a VPS (Virtual Private Server) help you? Or do you mean a VPN (Virtual Private Network)?
Here in Canada, we have bills with neutral names like C15. It sounds like in America, the title is used to frame the conversation, as in the notorious "Repeal the job killing healthcare law act".
I now think this is the first order answer: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2741915
I couldn't agree with that. Imagine what the landscape of software would look like without all those abrasive "bullies" that Mozilla is wringing their hands about: no Theo, no Zed, no Steve, no Richard ... hell, no Linus, for that matter.

So any open-source community would be better without them, eh?
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Currently I've found that socially, people don't really use Google Calendar for events such as this, which is unfortunate because events are sync'd to mobile devices and there are many widgets showing agenda and the like. With Facebook, integration is fairly hackish and not particularly great.

However, with GCal, invitation is fairly unwieldy - relying on manually adding people one by one, and by e-mail address (which is annoying because many people have several addresses, and often you don't know people by their e-mail anyway).

So why not open up Google Calendar to Google+ so that you can do things such as:

- Invite a circle of people to an event.

- Comment on events.

- Share them on your G+ profile.

- RSVP with your G+ account.

- Have a centralised calendar entry shared by multiple people so that it can stay current, be moved, updated with new location and descriptions, that would show up on one's GCal in a nice, non-hackish way.

Am I alone in thinking this would be a great way to expand G+'s integration with existing Google applications in order to provide a useful feature that would extend G+ and further diminish the reason to use Facebook?

I'm not sure where to suggest this to Google - I'd be happy to code something like this, however, not being a Google employee I'm rather powerless to implement it.

Does anyone else think this could be a useful feature?
Bzzzt! Thanks for playing! No, I would have a problem with it from anyone if the attention was unwanted. It is the 'unwanted' aspect of things which is important. A woman in a bar is not necessarily looking for any action - she may already be in a committed relationship, she may have just had a hard week at work and is unwinding with some friends, she might be a lesbian, or whatever.

For your information I have also had to blow off very physically attractive men in much the same way. In some ways they are even worse than the fat bald guy, because they seem even less willing to believe that they are being blown off.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to make my main point. I used the example of an unattractive man because I felt that people would be better able to empathize with it, not because the situation would have been any different for an attractive man.
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Quip's like that don't help matters. I prefer peace to war, but it's meaningless.

How do you propose rehabilitating someone who has demonstrated no desire to be rehabilitated within this context?

Also, is it really the job of the developers to fix the bugs in a user rather than focus on the bugs in the product the user is using?
If your critic is a bully and he comes into your workplace saying he'd like to physically maim you so you can't work any more and calls you names and think it's OK because he was, (in his own words, while he's verbally abusing you) "the second person after Stallman to ever write any GNU code" then I think you'd call him a bully, treat his attempts at participation as toxic, and kick him out of your workplace. You might even call the cops. Actually, you would call the cops. And you'd be right to.
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I fail to see how the males aren't just the female stick figure with short hair. Your viewpoint is at fault here, not the comics.

I see what you mean in a way - that the male stick figures don't have long hair. Again, though, this is only your viewpoint - very rarely is the stick figure's gender actually mentioned in the text of the comic or otherwise. Besides, not all females have long hair, many of the not-overtly-female stick figures may also be female despite not having long hair. Only your viewpoint, again.

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Hey milang,

I'm Max's business partner. We do things that only really make sense to to outside of business hours right now. For instance every Monday before work we review all the projects the company has on its plate so we can be prepared for any conversations with staff at 9:00am.

Another example is that once a month we review every financial expense the company has so that we can build cash flow projections etc. Even as we grow we intend to keep our eyes in the back end of the business.

Another example might be research for a new product or service that is not currently generating revenue. Until we are willing to make a cash investment in the idea, the founders typically do interviews and customer development activities outside of business hours.
Except that most companies don't. Abusive customers are bad for the whole company and the other customers. They lower morale, raise costs, and are generally not worth the money they bring in.

So if a company wouldn't do it for money, why would someone take that abuse for free?

They wouldn't. And they didn't.
You can use perl's string-matching facilities (which really are not regular expressions at all[0]) to parse HTML.

[0] in fact it was a rather neat idea to rename those "patterns" (or something along those lines) in Perl 6. Unfortunately this name change has been rolled back. Shame.
I still don't understand why musicians continue to sign up with record labels?

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You would accept one of your 100,000 paying customers who comes into your workplace shouting "die die die" and telling you he'd like to cut off your fingers so you can't work any more? After telling him that wasn't appropriate when he came back days or weeks later calling you a simian and shouting at you, you'd deal with it how? By inviting him into your office? I doubt it. I suspect you'd kick him out or call the cops to haul him off.
i agree that it is a complex issue. the problem is that he negates his argument by saying "many women" and trying to say what they feel. "many women" is pretty much a gender enhancing phrase
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The question is, is the damage avoided here, or is it just moved to another place/person?

On topic though, I don't really understand why it should be obligatory to share any personal info that I don't want to share. If it's just so that the service provider can sell the info, then I think I would prefer to just pay for the service myself instead.
Does anyone know why he left out the $300,000 advance from the final calculation on how much the artists make? I'm not sure if that was just an oversight or if there was a valid reason for it.
That's not strictly true. If you've already got a report of the issue from other more helpful users, then someone coming in and calling you names and threatening to physically harm you, that isn't necessarily adding value.

We're very fortunate at Mozilla to have tens of thousands of but reporters who aren't bullies and who don't think because they wrote some GNU code once that they can threaten you and deride you. This means that the cost of kicking out the bullies is either trivial, or a net win.
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Mozilla is trying to be like Google with Thunderbird and Firefox, but they are failing.

This guy who's getting / who got banned deserved it, but the changes they keep making aren't all that good.

Firefox is eating a lot of memory, Thunderbird does odd things at times.

A friend has 500 corporate workstations which are running Firefox 3.6.x and Thunderbird 3.1.x. Will he upgrade them to the newer versions, in which they keep pouring poorly tested code? No, he will switch to something else.
I don't know about other open source communities. Perhaps they thrive on toxic environments full of bullies. But I do know quite a bit about the Mozilla community and I'm quite certain that we are better off without him.
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Steve Albini's explanation is much more colorful and now almost 15 years old, http://www.negativland.com/albini.html
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Usage and improvement of open standards. We are seeing an increasing number of closed protocols that should be open, such as IP Telephony (video and audio) and instant messaging. All those services could work with each other and increase the size of the market, but instead they work against each other.

If everyone used the same video calling protocol, it would be a lot more popular because the common Joe would be able to use any client they wanted and know it would work with whoever they want to call. Like a telephone. Could you imagine if every telephone network was different and you have to use a Sprint phone to talk to someone who only owned a Sprint phone? It's ludicrous.
A slightly more accurate summary of Tom Christiansen's excellent answer there would be: "Oh yes you can use regexes to parse HTML, but you usually shouldn't, unless what you want to do is really, really simple."

Actual quotations: "Even if my program is taken as illustrative of why you should not use regexes for parsing general HTML -- which is ok, because I kinda meant for it to be that"; "That was kinda my point, actually. I wanted to show how hard it is." (the latter in response to someone else who said "You can write a novel, like tchrist did, or you can use a DOM library and write one line of XPath").
I would say that don't consider it realistic, just an exaggeration of reality. Good for laughs.
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> Bzzzt! Thanks for playing!

Please don't do this.
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I would probably try funding an idea or 2 for that rate of return, but it makes me really reluctant to put an idea in the ring. It'd have to be an amazing idea, and even then, I think I could fund it myself.