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need an option for "have an invite but they're over capacity and won't let me sign up yet"

I have no opinion yet, I was backpacking for a few days during the announcement, just got back and had these invites. To me, it's nothing more than a product name, and a damn confusing one at that. I'd have accepted google++ ;-)
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What makes me hate facebook is that it is closed, So yes I would switch to G+ as I see in future all my google services[mail, calenader, maps, doc] integrated into my social networks and devices with the onset Android and the Google TV, and chrome browser all well intergated, privacy is not my concern. Rather I would love all my digital services intergated witha single vendor so that it can provide me with the kind of AI services google is known for[that too for free].
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Unpaid internships are essentially a form of serfdom.

The serf system in Russia IIRC started with free peasants who sold themselves into slavery to the landowner when they fell into debt - unlike African slaves in the US, who were essentially kidnapped into servitude.

In the same vein people are taking up voluntary servitude in order to get a paid job - sometimes even paying for the privilege.

Moreover - a point not raised in the article - in expensive cities the only way a fresh graduate can survive without salary is if their parents subsidize them. Who can afford to do so ? Rich families. So it's a form of discrimination.

A company has no excuse for not paying at least minimum wage. If you can't afford the employees you need you shouldn't be in business, period. Any company that uses unpaid internships is morally bankrupt and should be boycotted.
Personally I got a lot of value out of my unpaid internships (Kate Spade & Sports Illustrated). Though I understand the reasons against it, I got to a) work with a great team, b) make some great business contacts for future job referrals, and c) get experience that looked great on my resume.

That said, I completely understand that my experience was the exception rather than the rule. Plus, both companies I interned at most likely could have afforded to pay me too.
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It's easy to get an internship today. Douchebag companies who will not pay me at least a minimum wage can have someone completely clueless who knows nothing.

You can get experience and not get paid working on any large open source project. You'll probably get even better mentoring.

In fact, it's not that hard to get paid doing open source work now that you have GSoC.
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"Using business buzzwords a lot to appear like they are in the know" is the sign of a psychopath? Holy crap, I'm totally surrounded!
Problem is, Facebook is pretty much business card level today. You don't really exchange email addresses with someone you met socially, nor phone numbers: facebook is better at this.

So it's definitely not that I want less people in my friend list, just that I want to be able to easily limit what they see about me.
The CV still rules when it comes to getting past HR departments and into interview. The HR departments (and employment agencies) I've worked with look directly at the Work Experience section of a CV and then tick off a bunch of boxes for the job they're trying to fill. Unpaid internships are one way to fill a CV with relevant experience. Find a way to bridge that gap and you don't need to do an unpaid internship. I went through 3 months of unpaid work with an ugly little company for exactly this reason, and it paid off, but those were the most trying 3 months of my professional career.
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I'd very much appreciate a look at Google+
Just could not stop myself from posting this comment from 'lifebyexperimentation' .. the blogger[with hands on experience ] says my point in much better manner

"Everything is smoothly integrated into one place, from Google Chat to the notification center in the upper right. I wonder if I will be able to access my gmail and iGoogle widgets from Google+? If so, then it could provide a one-stop-shop for everything and take over as my browser homepage (something Facebook never had a chance at doing). One thing I have to be thankful for in that Google+ works well internationally because it remembers my Google settings. No other company could manage this.

Overall, like any social network, the #1 determining factor will be adoption. If my friends use it, I will use it. But adoption is based upon a good user experience and a service that solves a problem, and to my surprise Google+ seems to be accomplishing just that (I actually did not expect to like it).
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Only because Snoracle hasn't ported Oracle to it, yet.
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So one should introduce category theory along with its usage. Category theory makes little sense without it -- it turns to mundane symbol (or rather, diagram) manipulation. The category-theoretical notions do not seem to have any relevance if you do not know what other notions they try to generalize. What I mean is that it is more natural to notice that various products in all kind of mathematical structures have some universal property in common, than to say that these are examples of categorical notion of product. Or, it is more natural to notice that van Kampen's theorem really says something about connection between fundamental groups of a space and its subspaces, than to say that fundamental grupoid of a space is a colimit of a diagram created by fundamental grupoids of certain families of subspaces, with arrows being induced by inclusions. The second approach in case of van Kampen theorem (and many more, actually) is useful when you want to prove or use van Kampen theorem, because it is a bit easier to prove an universal property of a colimit than to prove that the fundamental group of a space is a free product product of the fundamental group of its subspaces with an amalgamation along fundamental group of their intersection. Nevertheless, categorical approach does not provide you with the intuition which initially led to the formulation of this theorem. I believe that the case is similar with your friend's work -- it's his intuition and insight which led him to notice this equivalence, and category theory only helps him formulate his thoughts in an elegant way.

Learning category theory before learning more substantial facts is in my opinion going totally in backward order. Or maybe I'm just an (metaphorically) old grump and refuse to acknowledge the revolution just like mathematicians in the beginning of twentieth century were refusing to accept set theory.
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I find it silly that China blocks Google+, but not 4chan.

(http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/index.php?siteurl=4chan....)
It's not really about the 'development effort', it's about the performance. Message passing will always be alot slower than communicating through shared memory. Just like user-space filesystems will always be slower than kernel-space filesystems.

This means that in areas where performance is paramount, the system stability benefits of a microkernel design just isn't worth the loss in speed. In other areas it might be, but as the current OS landscape shows it's not in huge demand. Part of this is obviously that monolithic/hybrid kernels really aren't that prone to crashing (bugs get fixed), which means that in practice these kernel designs offers BOTH performance and stability.
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If you become an unpaid intern, then you better be learning 10 new things per day that you couldn't have learnd any other way. I can see where interning where be beneficial for both individual, company and society. However in the vast majority of cases the intern is just getting ripped off.
I think it should be evaluated in terms of where it could be 10 or 20 years from now. Somehow when i think of it that way, and then i compare that to thoughts of facebook in 10 or 20 years... i have faith in google.
Linus wasn't very clear, but the issue has more to do with the cost of context switches between the kernel and a userland process to support a userland filesystem. These switches are relatively expensive; a good example is the relative throughput of a LUKS/DM-CRYPT encrypted volume compared to a Truecrypt volume with equivalent cipher selections.

LUKS' throughput is much higher, simply because it does not add at least two more kernel<->userspace transitions on every read and write.
Complete and utter bullshit.

When I started work I produced little output, because I was a newbie and knew nothing. I was paid just a little over minimum wage - but I still produced, even if it was crappy code and routine tasks nobody else wanted to do.

Companies used to do this all the time - you start at the bottom, fresh out of school, and you have to learn.

But you are still f*ing paid.
Six months is definitely different, I would agree that in that time you can become effective.

In a way you are agreeing though, as you said, it took two months for you to be working on core services, so there is a significant ramp up time. If we are talking about a summer internship then it is questionable whether you will really add more value than extract. This is irrespective of ability level and just the reality of getting to know an organizations processes, codebase, etc..

In any case, I'm not quite sure what the article's beef is. If there was no market for unpaid internships, then there wouldn't be any. Clearly some interns are finding it worth their while enough to go work for free.

Do totally agree that it is an absolutely awesome funnel for candidates though, and worth drawing those candidates in via pay or other fringe benefits.
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Eloquent js was recommended in this HN thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2016334

Crockford, 2008, JavaScript: The Good Parts received higher recommendations there. Crockford has a js resouces page: http://javascript.crockford.com/

I guess from I'm looking to write well-crafted code to accomplish meaningful tasks on web pages you are interested in client side, and from solve small, on-the-fly problems, much as I currently use Python, AWK, and Bash also server side. In that thread I linked to, vladd recommends keeping client-side and server-side js programming apart. To be honest, I don't really get why server-side js is so popular, but in any case, I recommend starting with client side.

Aside - I think it's OK to raise this question again, because AFAICS, no one has raised it as an Ask HN post, so this should be more focussed than the thread I cited.
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If you still have an invite I would be eternally grateful! twohanded at gmail. Thanks in advance!
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I did raise the point about discrimination at the end but it's easy to miss in the wall of text. I fully agree with Intern Aware http://www.internaware.org/ on the issue of discrimination
And that's great if you want to resell BT's normal ADSL line. You can't do anything else using that particular interface.

There is, unfortunately, no affordable real unbundling (as in "deliver the copper to my equipment") in the UK.
Sorry, thanks for pointing it out. Good article that raises the issues with this appalling practice.
That's a terrible screencast. Mostly just a tiny terminal window with barely any explanation of what's going on.
Just for fun I translated this to F#, https://gist.github.com/1056026

I'm not going to put any performance statistics up, though if someone has enough free time to compare the two, it'd be interesting to see the result.
I have to disagree with calling unpaid internships a rip-off.

As a student, I see this as a way of getting something on the resume to break the catch-22 situation of having zero experience.
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If you're compute bound and are trying to optimize for performance, then sure, you only need to worry about loops.

One way to think about this is that if you need optimize something, it's only because a particular task is taking at least a few seconds to execute. A few seconds means a few billion instructions on a modern CPU. There aren't any executables with billions of instructions of straight-line code so your code surely has a loop (or a million loops).

However, as many others have pointed out, this CPU-centric view won't give any insight into optimizing I/O bound applications.
I'm not a software developer (researcher), but are there really no tasks simple enough for interns in your average software company? When I worked as a sysadmin for a couple of months, the two (paid) intern programmers seemed to do most of the work on some (small) contracts. They definitely had some things to learn, but they got it done (with some help) and were absolutely net positive.

Maybe we just had unusually good interns, though (this was in the Netherlands).
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The place I'm currently contracting in (mentioned in article) has their summer intern programme in full swing.

Not only are the guys getting decent pay but they are building a useful in-house app while getting trained up in technologies like OS X, Linux, Git, Ruby, Rails, MongoDB etc.

Win-win!
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Lots of folks in the "Skype's Evil Ways" threads (pt 1 & 2) were bemoaning how this signaled the beginning of the end for Andreessen et al. Interesting development.

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I'm not really blaming Apple. I mean, on top of the core version they've implemented about 100 extensions with names like GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_NV_fragment_program2, GL_ARB_instanced_arrays, etc.. But the OpenGL 4.1 specs were released a year ago and I've got 3D code that runs significantly faster when I boot into Windows. Exact same hardware, but it's OpenGL 2.1 (+ extensions) vs. Direct3D 9.
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Especially in the case of liberal arts internships. A programmer is one story - paid internships for essentially unskilled labor are very rare.
The only reason for me to do an unpaid internship would be to do it a 'brand-name' company. You do see the best practices, meet an amazing team and it might lead to an eventual job with the company.

For an unknown company - not a chance.
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While I think it's horrible if companies don't pay interns, I can see how the "you're learning things!" angle could seem more reasonable in the US.

My outside view is that a lot of Americans pay thousands of dollars to go to university.

Universities are, for a lot of people, just a means for learning a discipline and giving them more/better possibilities in a future job search.

While most internships aren't as "prestigious" as a university degree, they probably don't cost as much either.

In the end, both of them will have allowed you to make some new contacts, learn trade-specific things and add a new slot on your résumé.

p.s. this certainly doesn't go for all professions/internships. But the general direction seems about right.
I'd like to try it too, if you have an extra invite. Thanks in advance!

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At my organization, we used to have unpaid internships for college students, but they would receive college credit. We thought that was still kinda B.S., so we found some money and created paid internships.

Back in the day, when I started my career, to get my foot in the door, I worked at a temp agency. "Word processing" was all the rage and they needed people who knew how to use Microsoft Word. After a couple of months the boss noticed I knew how to spell "glaciolacustrine" correctly, so he asked if I had a degree. A couple months later I was hired. All the time I was getting paid $10/hr.

That's the way firms should be finding and cultivating young talent: paid internships, temp services, and recruiting. Unpaid internships are indeed bullshit.
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