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Ask HN: Can new programming languages attract developers without funding?
Is corporate support the only, or main, way of attracting developers to a new programming language? And does this put other languages (without a corporate benefactor) at a distinct disadvantage?

The Go language benefits enormously from Google's support and resources. Similarly, Rust grew from the support and resources of Mozilla. For example, both languages have had (or still have) dedicated staff writing documentation for the language. This is a luxury that other languages cannot fund or afford.

New languages aren't necessarily in competition with each other but at the same time, all languages want to attract developers.

How can other languages without a big corporate benefactor attract funding to help grow the language and build related libraries?

Examples of new-ish "underdog" languages (for want of a better term):

- Nim

- Crystal

- Zig (not yet at version 1.0)

- Julia (?)

Zig already has a VP of community and Crystal are planning to hire a Community Manager. This is an acknowledgement of the importance of growing the developer community in each language.

What about Julia? Does it count as an "underdog" in the language race? Although not backed by a big corporate sponsor, they have gained a solid foothold in the academic sphere. The language's origin at MIT has also given it influence and attention. (Feel free to disagree!)

I'd hate to think that only langauges with the generous funding and support of a big corporate sponsor can thrive. Meanwhile, other languages face the uncertainty of funding.

Back to the main question: Without funding from a generous corporate benefactor, can a language still grow, thrive and attract developers? How?
Exposure to phthalates reduces testosterone in both men and women, and thus lowers sex drive. Phthalates are widely used chemicals, primarily for softening plastic.

https://news.umich.edu/reduced-testosterone-tied-to-chemical...

That's not the only cause. Increased obesity levels also play a role. Probably other factors.
Yeah but also... “If you want to upstream it, take it” it's not really something where ehi forked is working hard to send it back upstream patch by patch...
> In fact, if you happened to work for a growing unicorn, and you gained those rewards and promotions with those long hours, you may even have made lifechanging money from unicorn equity, from those long hours.

That's what happened to me. Unicorn -> long hours -> pay day.

> Which, comes back to the point, this is unhealthy and somewhat toxic

This is the unfortunate conclusion that I've come to as well.

High risk, high reward. There are people who work just as hard and for just as long, but don't get to enjoy the spoils. When I think of how close I came to not making it -- eek.
There are certain drugs that bring sexual desires to zero, and the experience could be really liberating, as I may personally attest. Life could be easier for those surplus men if they went this route.
> They could just as easily choose a car that didn't have ABS as originally equipped and no one would say anything about the omission.

That’s the kind of failure case I wish fancy electronics had. Component breaks = now you’re driving a lower trim-level. As opposed to $5000 touchscreen module dies and now you can’t use the car.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

You can do both but not at the same time.
I was not gonna comment, but wow, they really are not backing down. From their Intel vs AMD value page:

> We don't

> Put lipstick on pigs for sponsorship fees, our users are our only sponsors.

> Care for brands: red, green or blue. PC hardware isn’t a fashion show, performance comes first.

> Test at 1440p or 4K: high resolutions are rarely optimal for gaming (refresh rate > size > resolution).

> Get fooled by the corporate army of anonymous forum and reddit influencers that prey on first time buyers.

Righto. So they don’t shill. And they know how to benchmark and measure the right things; except for the period of time when they accidentally showed AMD topping the charts and then had to adjust their expert benchmark scores. 4K gaming isn’t real; it’s a conspiracy invented by Big GPU and no gamers want it because clearly all gaming graphics is chasing higher FPS. And not only are they not shills, YOU are!

What a convincing argument. Others more reputable in the benchmarking scene considered userbenchmarks to be poorly executed to begin with, but wow, they really do not know how to take an L, at all. Of course it is convenient that the cases where AMD processors would succeed at are irrelevant.

Now I’m not playing games most of the time so a high framerate in games is hardly important to me. But who would I rather get advice from: Sour grapes userbenchmarks, or literally any other reputable benchmarking site? They inch closer and closer to blatant SEO SPAM every year.

I know Intel is not good at PR, but they really ought to pay these people... to stop making them look bad.
Not the parent, but I don't think friends are a substitute for a romantic relationship, but having friends is certainly better and more comforting when you're not in a relationship rather than being truly alone.

Regardless, men in romantic relationships should still be sure to cultivate strong friendships
Warning - I read some early research about this topic, something I was interested in at the time, around 15 years ago. Since then I've been actively trying to avoid multitasking as much as possible over the last decade or so.

It did, I believe, have one unforeseen side-effect: I now struggle to multitask in relatively simple situations where it's necessary. Maybe it's just because I'm getting older (42), but I seem to struggle with it much more than any of my peers.

Still, I wouldn't change anything. I believe I'm as or more productive per unit of time than anyone I've worked with.

Edit - one more side effect: I used to regularly work 12+ hour days. Now I'm _completely_ spent after 7-8 hours, as those hours are so intense.
> At this point in my career, I am so much more comfortable saying "no" to upper management.

Me too. But I also don't care about career progression or money anymore. 10 years ago that wasn't the case.
There'll be a talk on Cinder at (virtual) PyCon in a couple weeks, there are detailed benchmark numbers in the talk. We've talked about getting them into the repo too, might happen.
While I don't disagree with your statement, I feel the need to nitpick (because I see it said often these days). Speculative investment is fundamentally very different from gambling. In gambling, you know the real odds of the game, you know the payout odds of the game, you can deduce on average how often you'll win/lose, and more importantly, you pay and lose your payment for every turn of the game. With speculative investing these dynamics do not exist. It is risk taking in the same way that gambling is, but aside the fact that they're both risk taking, speculative investing is in no way like gambling.

Your second paragraph basically distils down supply and demand, aggregate risk appetite in a market, and market cycles.
If you bought Bitcoin 3 months ago, you made no money
For all the hype about NFT riches, crypto speculation, and asset bubbles, it would seem as if many of these over-hyped investments have performed worse than the plain ol' S&P 500 or Nasdaq index fund.

The nice thing about large cap growth stocks , especially in tech, is I know I have a good shot at making money over a 3 to 6-month time frame. Even with Covid, stocks came roaring back to make new highs less than a year later. With crypto, who knows.It took Bitcoin 3 years to recover from the 2018 crash, and the next time it crashes, it may never recover, like gold and silver in 1980. I like the certainty of stocks compared to the uncertainty of crypto.
I think I remember something about the bottom level also including solo activities, which makes it much more reasonable as a physical need. The higher level was then intended to be with someone else.
Cool I’ll have a look sometime. I can definitely get the sense there seems like there could be something there with Ethereum, and if there is something there it could be very very big.

What remains unknown for me is whether that something actually exists.
I think that's an extremely interesting take -- that with the advent of the Internet, we've created a vehicle for mental illness to metastasize, and the only real solution is to treat mental illness like we treat malaria or even COVID, and upgrade our global healthcare systems to handle the influx of this "new" disease variant.

The analogy breaks down when you start to try and think of what our "vaccine" might be, though perhaps education can be a rough proxy. It's also possible there's nothing we can do, and we've reached a spread that is incurable...
When magazine reviews were something that was a seriously paid occupation they were often pretty good. The problem today is that they're often essentially algorithmic. Reviews in e.g. the New York Times review of books insert were generally better than random Amazon reviewers (though not always).
It doesn't have to be this way. If you're going to go all-in on the monolith approach like FB and Instagram did for their product code (at least when I was there), you need to have a central team whose entire job is scaling the codebase. This means actively refactoring other teams' legacy code, making sure that tests are fast, etc.
Medical errors kill around a quarter-million people a year. Third-leading cause of death.

Anderson JG, Abrahamson K. Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors. Stud Health Technol Inform. 2017;234:13-17. PMID: 28186008.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

Medical residents are capped at 80 hours per-week making around $50k/year, and this is sold as some sort of breakthrough over the previous system where they were working well-in-excess of those 80/week for years during their residency.

What is normalized in the healthcare system is beyond insane.
I was surprised that WA did this, so I went to check if what you said was true, turns out, they actually didn't ban non-electric vehicle sales in 2030.

The actual bill: https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2021-22/Pdf/Amendmen...

On page 12:

line 36 & 37: Nothing in this section: a) Authorizes any state agency to restrict the purchase, sale, or registration of vehicles that are not electric vehicles;

and the actual quote around 2030(starting @ line 16):

"... then a goal is established for the state that all publicly owned and privately owned passenger and light duty vehicles of model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased, or registered in Washington state be electric vehicles."
DSA tracks which versions of exim4 have these fixes applied.

https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/e...

Please remember to update your mailservers.
Ask HN: What code pattern you found useful and why?
Thanks for the suggestion. We will be adding more examples soon (both interactive inputs driving plots, and interactive plots driving outputs). Here’s one with a search box:

https://observablehq.com/@mbostock/us-covid-vaccinations
I mean, that is the immediate conclusion one can draw from what you're saying. It sounds like you're saying all sexually exclusive relationships are within the group of healthy relationships, which is different than saying only some of them are within that group.
Did Twitter actually contribute to Scala core though? They definitely created and contributed to various Scala libraries but they didn't fork/augment the Scala compiler like Facebook did with HipHop.
Depression and anxiety even more so, modern work-life balance and social media too...
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210209005804/en/Nor...
Why Some People Won't Be Fit Despite Exercise (2002)
I do not yet have kids, but shit like this is why i already have a bank account saving money for private school. This move will not produce more equality - quite the opposite. All those whose parents can afford it will be in private school learning Algebra, and the rest will be left behind.
I thought TEST did a subtract, setting the appropriate flags and discarded the result?
> The "memeplex" offers no such nuance to any of those that they oppose; and for all the claimed diversity within the movement the resultant behaviour remains the same.

On the contrary, memeplex indicates quantity, size. A massive ideology with a thousand schools of thought inside. J.K. Rowling and Charlotte Clymer both identify as feminists. So do both Naomi Wu and Sarah Jeong. Such an umbrella term of ideologies contains myriads of sub-ideologies, many of them often in direct competition and contradiction with each other. To judge such an umbrella based on a single facet is to equate all of Islam to Salafi jihadism, or all of Christianity to Joel Osteen. It would seem that I am not the one operating without nuance, in this discussion.

> behaviour illustrated in just one example I have given.

A single statement from a single video? Perhaps that's the measure by how you judge all ideologies, but most do not subscribe to that heuristic.

> I stated the situation and gave an example when pressed for evidence.

And thus it is up to you to further prove that such evidence is indicative of the ideology, broadly.
I don't. But neither do those friends who speak about sexual incompatibility with the people that they love. Children are a completely new factor that this thread hasn't introduced, and I'm impressed by anyone who can make it work with a toddler. But for the most part, the demographic I'm talking about have no kids, live together, are financially comfortable, enjoy spending time together... and yet don't want to do it for some reason.
We've already upstreamed a lot of changes, including one that makes all coroutines faster in Python 3.10. The big-ticket items in Cinder would be big changes for CPython and need discussion about whether CPython even wants them. You don't just slap a C++ JIT into a bugs.python.org ticket. Opening Cinder is the first step in the conversation, and we're here for that work too. It's not just "if you want it, take it."
Ok, we've changed the URL at the top to that one, from https://therecord.media/dell-patches-12-year-old-driver-vuln..., which points to it. Thanks!
Where is the de-emphasizing of STEM in the US? I see nothing but STEM being promoted everywhere in colleges, high schools, camps, etc.
I disagree, this logic doesn't work always unless you have investor money lying around. For a bootstrapped business, it could mean living or dying. As an example, a client of mine was paying close to $5000 per month in server costs simply because of the scale of traffic they had on their site.
By re-writing Wordpress in Elixir, I was able to bring their costs down to $1000 odd per month. It's actually cheaper than what any of their competitors are paying for, in servers as well.

This $4000 in savings actually allowed them to hire an additional full time developer to maintain their site.
So, your logic only works for certain use cases, not all.
Prometheus clusters/scaling/federation can be challenging to manage at scale, but Im a but surprised at how relatively popular Datadog is given its price and how feature rich prometheus is. Does anyone here have experience with both?

Prometheus strikes me as one of the most amazing recent pieces of open source tech, the query language in particular (while hard to grok for beginners) was such an eye opener early in my career. It has its warts but infinite kudos to the creators.
It's also scary just how many controls there are now, tactile or otherwise, that have little to do with safely driving the car and navigating efficiently to your destination. Until we have truly autonomous vehicles, all those distractions are accidents waiting to happen (or sometimes, sadly, not waiting).

Touch controls for anything a driver needs to manipulate while driving are obviously ridiculous, so there's not much else to say there. But given how dangerous using a phone while driving is under most circumstances, what on earth are phone-related controls doing taking up prime real estate on a steering wheel in so many modern vehicles, even if they're tactile? Either way, it's like the car makers said "OK, we get that using these features while driving is about as dangerous as driving while you're drunk, but the kind of person who will buy our premium vehicles is going to be grossly irresponsible anyway, so they might as well have an easy time doing it."

And then after distracting the driver's attention and giving them lots to look at other than what they actually need for driving, they act all surprised that the driver who was "required to be fully aware and able to take over control of the vehicle immediately at any time" was messing around with the infotainment system with lane keeping, cruise control and automatic distance keeping turned on instead of watching the road, and point to the legal small print when the inevitable tragedy happens because of course the driver was not actually able to take over immediately when something unexpected happened.

This whole issue makes my blood boil. It's like the worst example of prioritising flash and gimmicks at the expense of making something that actually works properly, and in a context where safety is a huge factor and people are literally dying unnecessarily every day. These kinds of idiocy should have been regulated out of existence the day after they were announced.
> I think you have the entitlement characterization backward though. It is entitled to think people should do work for free so that you can use the output of their work.

That depends on the license, though. It's not entitlement to think that someone that builds on something open must release it back if the license requires it. That's one of the main differences between the BSD license and some GPL variants.
If Twitter's port to the JVM didn't result in 10x fewer servers with 10x lower latency vs an identical Ruby implementation we wouldn't have done it. Sadly not much progress has been made on the RubyVM though Twitter did try with improvements to GC and other changes. We even tried JRuby as part of the evaluation.
"Language X is slow and we could save Y switching to Z" is always a false promise.

The thing that keeps software interesting for me is that there are almost no absolute rules. So I'll agree that complete rewrites are usually a mistake and performance problems are often not in the language.

But I can't agree that rewrites are always a mistake. esbuild is a recent good example of how much difference switching to a faster language can make.
We've changed the URL from https://therecord.media/dell-patches-12-year-old-driver-vuln..., which points to this.

From the guidelines: "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Where do you see that? Every result from my quick searching is listing women as longer than men. Example: https://www.purplemotes.net/2015/08/23/medieval-life-expecta...
That looks like broad assumptions about "culture" combined with total abuse of statistics that conflate children of immigrants from non-english speaking countries with 'east asian culture'.

I'm not going to read through a bunch of cliches to see if there might be something that actually backs up what you're saying in there. There was no indication from what you linked that 'the real competitive schools' are in asia.
[3] A more readable version of my work history with chronology in rows: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g306tj4kxry1bhf94e8rb/Full-po...
One thing keeping me on Apache I stead of NGINX or obhttpd is how easy it is to do overrides for particular directories. I use this A LOT for generating dynamic content.

Example: Let's say I want to generate an RTF doc for a power of attorney. I'll tell Apache via .htaccess to treat .rtf documents in that directory as CGI scripts. poa.rtf then is a Python script to process the QUERY_STRING or POST parameters into an RTF template and spit it out. End result is that browser requests poa.rtf and gets a file called poa.rtf -- generated on the fly.

Do you have an idea how you'd accomplish the same trickery in obhttpd? I guess you'd have to have the per-directory config in the main config file?
Note that there's no what-actions-we-will-take-to-fix-this statement in this update, which is unusual given the scope of this controversy.

They're quadrupling down.
>One (fem) writer claimed it somehow justified rape. That's as absurd as saying the need for food justifies armed robbery.

People conflate "explaining" or "causing" with "justification". They also think that by eliminating words they will eliminate the actual problem...
Apologies, I didn't realize you were the commenter I've been referencing as feeling attacked.

> See, I disagree, because I believe that we've evolved to prefer stable, partnered life, and that a large portion of the population is still substantially affected by those drives. Not all of us can just say goodbye to biological imperative.

Can you reference any legitimate science to back this up? I believe the push towards partnered life is a byproduct of capitalism, and has nothing to do with evolution or biology.

> But, this doesn't mean that it's unhealthy for partnership to be a major portion of life's happiness and fulfillment.

This is the strawman that keeps getting thrown around in this comment section. Nobody is suggesting that finding happiness and fulfillment in a partner is unhealthy.

> I don't know what the version of me without a stable, long-term relationship would be like. But-- I do know that my life became much better around the time that I met her; that the improvement appears to have lasted and cumulated, and also that it seems to me that a large part of my fulfillment and happiness comes from interaction with my wife. If this is unhealthy, I haven't seen the negative impact from it yet.

This is again a strawman. "Incapable of being alone" is different than "enjoying being together". The former is what is unhealthy, as has been referenced over and over again in these comments.
Yet multitasking is still being branded as something of a higher cognitive functioning. Byung-Chul Han in The Burnout Society claims that it is the opposite:

> “The attitude toward time and environment known as “multitasking’ does not represent civilisational progress. Human beings in the late-modern society of work and information are not the only ones capable of multitasking. Rather, such an aptitude amounts to regression. Multitasking is commonplace among wild animals. It is an attentive technique indispensable for survival in the wilderness.

> An animal busy with eating must also attend to other tasks. For example, it must hold rivals away from its prey. It must constantly be on the lookout, lest it be eaten while eating. At the same time, it must guard its young and keep an eye on its sexual partner. In the wild, the animal is forced to divide its attention between various activities. That is why animals are incapable of contemplative immersion—either they are eating or they are copulating.”

> ...

> We owe the cultural achievements of humanity—which include philosophy—to deep, contemplative attention.”
Instagram was bought for 1 billion and is now estimated to be worth over a hundred billion dollars. Facebook has acquired 89 companies according to crunchbase so even if all of those cost a billion each which they didn't, Instagram would have made up for all of them single handedly.
Was Cinder influenced by hhvm (Facebook's vm for php/hack)?
A project that maintains a list of different JIT implementations for programming languages and compares them would be a great way to see what are the different approaches to implementing JITs and which language features make it hard to implement performant JITs.

As an aside it is great that the Cinder team is specifically calling out that Cinder is not intended to be used outside of FB. Many people have been burned by lack of community around hhvm.
Isn’t Mazda discontinuing use of touch screens?