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Appealing to history's greatest minds is a weak appeal to authority. Several of history's greatest minds also spent significant time on pursuits such as alchemy. It does them no disservice to suppose that given modern tools and knowledge they would have formed different opinions. But now we have the ability to explain evolution, brains, astronomy, energy, weather, etc.

Whatever your take on religion is, pointing to the opinions of people living in a much more inscrutable world is not good evidence.

Personally I fall into the camp that omniscience omnipresence and omnibenevolence are just logically incompatible with the christian belief of a good god.
Previous HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20761449
UK has historically had low church membership. Even novels from the mid 1800s (Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy) talk about how village churches lay mostly empty due to lack of adherents
The difference in politics is interesting too - in the USA politicians have to be shown to be religious - people discuss the possibility that Bernie Sanders' might be atheist like its a potential major scandal. In the UK its the exact opposite, we don't want our leaders to be religious. Its ok for them to go to a big church service or lay a wreath or something but if they start talking about their 'faith' (as Tony Blair did somewhat) we get weirded out.

Jeremy Corbyn's atheism is an interesting example - the right wing press found all sorts of ways to vilify or criticise him, but his atheism never came up as a criticism - because atheism in the UK is a complete non issue. No-one cares. Compare with Bernie Sanders.
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I don't mind some tool discussion but:

>Wherever tools are used there are tools made of shit.

I find it's super easy to shit on tools. That doesn't mean another tool is better / will have a better outcome. Most of the tool talk is very focused on a few problems that I am not so sure actually point to the outcome of using it.
For all the reasons you might criticise JavaScript, that’s one of the least reasonable.

Python is specifically known as a “batteries included” language, and Go has stdlib support for the core use cases the language is designed for.

I wouldn’t say that C++ or Java have particularly rich standard libraries outside of IO and common data structures, and C is downright anaemic.
>in the late 90s (fishwrap I think? out of MIT)

That's a project I haven't heard mentioned in a long while! We're both getting old though... Fishwrap is from the early 90s... got started in 1993 and the main paper on it was published in 1995.
Yes, experts will lie to you sometimes
Evergreen is the company, Ever given is the boat.
Evergreen is the name of the company, all of their ships have an Ever prefix. This one is called the Ever Given
I think a better question would be:

Should we listen to UBM just because he is UBM?

The question here in general is:

Should we listen to people that know nothing about our situation?

The question is not: Why we are not using Closure?

The question should be: When is Closure a good tool for use to use?

And the answer to that is not because its 2021.

A better question always will be: What is the right tool for solving this problem, building something or reparing something that is broken.

Yes you should look into other languages.
Yes you should not use one tool for all problems.
Also you should not use a new tool every time a new problem comes.

You need to balance this out.

In the beginning you will not know if this is the right tool but you should try and you should be ready to destroy what you build. So that you have learned from it to build something better.
You don’t care about it’s positive influence on other people? I understand feeling like you are enlightened and psychologically adjusted such that you don’t need anything beyond science and your own intellect, but surely you see the positive effects it has on other people, and cultures? Do you really think a world without black churches is a better world?
I tried Rust a while ago (I do mainly Python) but not for long enough to get my head around it (the borrow checker).

Is it now past the peak hype cycle, or do people still love it?
I admit to missing this point.
Evergreen is a huge Taiwanese shipping company, Ever Given is the name of this particular ship.

There are probably several dozen ships around the world with the words "Evergreen" on its side.
Note that the egyptians were also planning for the "maybe weeks" scenerio. They were assembling the team for a litering operation (cranes etc) should the ship need to be partially unloaded. And a great many ships began to divert around africa, some of which may now be turning around. Certainly the shipping industry as a whole was headging against the "maybe weeks" option.

Not everyone on HN is a software nerd. More than a few here have worked in the shipping and logistics industries.
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What is the use cases for having the TTL shorter than 5 minutes?
There is a strawberry tree not far from here and I find the species name very apt: unedo in Latin means "you only eat one".
With everything that has occurred over the past 20 years, from the collapse of bee colonies, to the alarming decrease in fertility and disruptions to our endocrine systems, I think it’s clear that something is going on. Pesticides would logically seem a good place to start eliminating until we better understand what these chemicals are doing to our bodies overtime.
Evergreen is the shipping company, ever given is the name of the ship
>All in all Javascript interpreter is becoming something like a JVM. Everyone wants to use it but without writing vanilla Javascript.

Except not because lots of people prefer to write JavaScript and those other JVM languages are usually less verbose rather than more verbose.
"Cultural Christian" is just what western culture is. "atheist Jews" can exist only because they exist in the cultural Christian west.
He didn't apologize for his comments about sex between adults and children.[1] And he didn't say he changed his mind until after he came under pressure to resign. It was his current opinion as far as anyone knew. And that's just 1 of the examples they gave.

Neuroatypical people I know are pretty angry about mostly neurotypical people using their condition to rationalize Stallman's bad behavior.

[1] https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September...
But that IS intellectuals getting involved. QAnon is quite cleverly constructed. Just because it uses mechanisms similar to Nigerian email scams doesn't mean it's not intelligently constructed and administered. There are already intellectuals involved, they're just not pursuing disinterested goals.
I wish to see a satellite photos to see a traffic jam from the above. It is definitely not too common to see that many ships waiting in queue to entry the Suez canal [0].

[0]: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:32.3/cente...
There's already a script to block people on GitHub based on signing one of the letters, written by an infosec furry (but i repeat myself):

https://twitter.com/kyhwana/status/1375651591672324096
I’m amazed it is even 47%. That’s crazy. I don’t know anyone my age that goes to church regularly. I guess there are tons of old people that do so.
We need more downstream projects like this putting pressure on the library authors to cut down their dependency trees as well as generic usage.

Perhaps, we need better tools for this. Take `cargo-bloat` for example: if library A makes a generic type from library B to monomorphize, would the build time reflected in `A`? It would be good to have something telling us: this API has a build complexity metric of 1.23 - something we could feature and/or track on CI.
But you don’t get full control, and that’s why people go native. Because platforms rightly distrust web apps. This will likely be true for a long time as security becomes a bigger deal everyday.
Upvoted because it's not a bad, offensive, or content-free comment, so it doesn't deserve to disappear even if one doesn't agree with it.

I don't agree with most of this agenda though. A lot of it is just garden-variety right-wing freemarketism, with all due respect; and most of it is really in the realm of things that nation-states are better positioned to tackle. It's also largely not related to digital matters.

Some points:

- it's a bit ironic to complain about EU bureaucracy on one hand, then on the other to ask Bruxelles to regulate building standards, down to ventilation (!), across a very diverse continent.

- "Get rid of all payroll taxes" is obviously a non-starter, particularly in countries where these are the only taxes guaranteed to be collected, but it's not really a EU matter anyway. What could definitely be done at central level, though, is to simplify cross-border procedures for workers who live in one country but work remotely in another. This would actually be a good candidate area for diverting some responsibility and money towards Bruxelles/Strasbourg.

- Again, nation states should deal with their agri practices, no need for EU to be involved unless there are internal competition issues.

- "border security" cannot increase in the Mediterranean Sea. Militarizing the sea even more is just going to make things worse: the more ships are around, the more illegal traffickers are empowered to send dinghies and rely on humanitarian efforts to rescue people at the other end. So you'd be spending more and likely obtain the opposite of what you're looking for. Some of that was attempted (the "Mare Nostrum" strategy), and the results incensed right-wing parties so much that they scrapped it shortly thereafter.
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> But this is a fantasy you made up

This is an ideal held by many that we should strive toward. We may never achieve it in our lifetimes, but it’s still healthy to have a common goal we all work toward.

It’s disheartening if I just say “fuck it, we’re hosed, so what’s the point.”
The HN crowd tends to be heavily bearish on pretty much everything here, and there's an ironic lack of respect for experts in fields beyond those few HN favorite topics (e.g., low-level programming languages).

So, the difference in the expected outcome here doesn't surprise me.
The parent is referring to the (actually, legitimately, really bad) philosophy that you can find in the most puffed-up theology books. It comes from the same process of domain envy that makes some philosophers put the worst math ever in their papers, except it started several hundred years earlier. To cut one slice through it, I can point you to a page of 100% fallacious arguments[0] that only survived as long as they did because they had a popular conclusion.

[0] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ontological-arguments/
Part of what VC investment means is that this is not his decision to make anymore.
There is no separating economics from politics, really. If God can't deliver, people have to, and that's inherently a political position.
Lots of articles quote a $XXX billion dollars per day figure, but those numbers are normally for "worth of goods delayed" which, while interesting, doesn't tell the story to me.

Are there any estimates as to the actual cost of this "mishap", due to e.g. spoilage, financial/contractual repercussions of late deliveries, personnel/fuel costs?
Yeah, but sitting around and reserving judgement wouldn't make for a very interesting comment section. :)
This entire post is a bad, unfocused rant driven by author's opinion against the tweet's author but choosing the wrong one to write about. The tweet mentioned has no _elitism_. Recommending a product (a programming language in that case) is anything but elitism. Author makes the common claim about _using what others use_. Some products are new giving you a choice, and not every product is made by a team. More importantly indeed no client gives a shit about the language. The choice is about making YOUR work easier, enjoyable, better. Those are correlated by the way. If something makes you enjoy programming (some people DO enjoy programming for the sake of it), then this may lead to you producing a better product.
Just 14% of Americans are 'Happy'
I believe the other popular suggestion is Ørberg's Lingua Latīna:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_%C3%98rberg
>But over a decade later, we find server-side JavaScript hopelessly fragmented, deeply tied to bad infrastructure, and irrevocably ruled by committees without the incentive to innovate.

Trying to sell something based on FUD is always a bad sign.
I replaced recently an unreadable bash-script through a small maintainable JS program. It's doing the same thing as the bash script and accepting the same parameters but does not require a black belt in regexp and going through hundreds linux/unix command man pages to understand what it does.

I think you'd be surprised how many modern applications are written in JavaScript or Python.

One of the more prominent ones is VSCode.
"If it's popular enough to be forked by the community"

Yes.

And if it isn't you need to switch.

If you are tied in in a way to proprietary tools or APIs then you have some major migration in front of you. If you don't you you might be able to use Node.

If you have a tight schedule already, or no development capacity for the migration, you will need to buy a license because you might not want to run your code on a plattform that no longer gets security updates and you no longer get support.

When this happend to me in the past, I've got some major bills for licenses b/c most of them are server based (or core based) and also count development, testing, staging and CI servers (>$100k/y).

"You only need to be concerned if you're heavily invested on their platform and it's not popular enough for community support and you need new features added. In this unlikely scenario, [...]"

s/unlikely/likely/g

I have no data but would assume this is the default ending, because most projects are not being forked (Mongo, ...) and create a successful community around a fork and most companies I work with are heavily invested in a plattform and do not adhere to the standard APIs and tools (e.g. I'd say 10% of my customers use AWS in a standard way, 90% are heavily invested in the plattform, same for GCP.) If you have other numbers and/or studies, I would be interested.
> the manifesto itself was a revolution in our industry

Am I allowed the opinion that it was bad for the industry, and some of the ideas it integrated are harmful and still holding us back as an industry?

It's convenient that we have no crystal ball into a parallel universe where agile never became popular.
How is turning blind ( outer ) corners full speed not violent?
Just the levels of indirection involved in the tyranny.
I think hypocrisy is inevitable for a couple of reasons.

1) In theory, people go to church because they want to improve, not because they are already perfect. It's not hypocritical to make mistakes.

2) Hypocrisy is everywhere. No one really does scrum, no one really does TDD, no motivational speaker is happy all the time, and no christian is without sin. This shouldn't be surprising.
Membership vs. attendance, though, unless I'm reading the title too literally.
I only visit 20-30 sites over a week that I feel obliged to unblock as I visit them weekly and they don't offer a subscription for an ad free experience. If it helps them in anyway, I'm all for it. 3 of the admins I have managed to email questions to have also declined me sending them money or buying them a beer/coffee via paypal
I'd love if every small website had a tip jar, buy them a coffee every week/fortnight/month
I grew up Protestant but have considered myself Agnostic for a while.

However, lately I've been having the urge to dig into spirituality more, as I'm starting to suspect there can be something there, it's just that, except for a single sermon I sat in about people destroying natural rock formations that have been around for millions of years on a whim (yeah the pastor actually said millions of years), I haven't found anything that seemed worth reflecting on in church services I've attended in a very long time.

The book you posted seems interesting, I'll give that a read. I also found Tolstoy's 'A Confession' very interesting back in the day. Do you have other resources you would recommend I check out?
I assume it's the same kind of luck that places gas stations near motorways.
Your first paragraph is white washed. The “radical” parts of the civil rights movement weren’t swept under the rug. In comparison to what? Who MLK really was appears to be swept under the rug here.

As said in other comments, it does sound like you’re saying the, among other things, centrist / status quo wanting of people to sit down and be quiet.
Saying (as I do) that everyone should be able to express their ideas (no matter how atrocious) publicly without facing administrative punishment does *not* mean that other actions (such as keeping a close eye on them) should not be taken.

I doubt that preventing the Nazis from discussing their ideas would have stopped them. Having their ideas not suppressed from public forums at least gave the chance to others to understand what was going on in order to try to stop it (which, in this case, failed miserably).

When "explaining doesn't work" it's time to take action. But not while the only proof you have against someone is what he said (instead of what he did).

The "brain washing" power that continuous propaganda has is not under question, but still I like to hold accountable those who do, and not those who say (I know this is a very unpopular opinion, that's why I like to discuss about it!).
I disagree with a lot of what was said here especially now as new languages are starting to stray away from the same C++/Java pattern of doing things. New tools can provide new and better ways of solving old problems. That being said I feel like this entire article was written for a co-worker of his who won't stfu about his favorite new language that changes every 6 months.
I grew up attending church, and on the whole have nothing but good things to say about the whole experience. It gave me both spiritual and moral support when I needed it the most and some of the best people I have ever known, I got to know through church. In fact in ways I mourn the loss of both my faith and my 'church'.

However once I realized that, on a very fundamental level, the core of what they where claiming as true wasn't in fact true, I felt I had no choice to walk away.
A Venn diagram of top coders in world and coders passionate about democratization of technology:

Deno are in overlapy

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| Coders \|- coders \
/ passionate /-|\-- in |
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There is just enough overlap to bring any/all of the best ideas from the non-web world to web tech.
Many people here have mentioned staying interested in the technology. Just as important to me: 1) staying interested in people, 2) finding pleasure in helping them out, and 3) enjoying getting things done.

All of engineering is using technology to help people. People never run out of needs and desires. Technology keeps improving, and most current technology as deployed is such a poor fit for needs that if I just spend a few hours watching somebody do their job, I'll see a dozen ways to help. And getting some improvement actually in their hands? A joy.
Speaking as a person of faith, religion has been largely obsoleted by social media and political tribalism. Most people get their moral compass from Instagram or Twitter or whatever. Celebrities, op-end writers, talk show hosts, and corporations have become the bishops of the new American moral universe.
To be fair, there were a number of people chiming in who were claiming to be experienced in that area (ex Navy captains, people who did dredging ops, etc). One of the big things that changed the timeline was that the highest tide of the month occurred yesterday; if not, I imagine that ship would be stuck for another month!
I did some thinking about this idea on my blog - https://www.moderndescartes.com/essays/homeostasis_volatilit...

the short: think of it like the Kelly Criterion. There's an optimal level of risk to take here, which you can update based on real world experiences.
I suspect you're setting up a false dichotomy. There are more choices on theology than ones that require you to check your brain in at the door, such as 1. fundamentalism and 2. feel-good pop psychology.

I am not taught emotion over logic. In fact, the Wesleyan Quadrilateral (a framework derived from but not described by him) has you evaluate beliefs with reason being a co-equal base. In confirmation and later in-depth adult classes, we were instructed to wrestle with the scripture. For example, we dug into the context of the times to understand better why certain things would have been said. We acknowledged selected verses made no sense. We agreed some parts we have no choice but to disregard. We frankly don't take Revelations that seriously because it's mostly batshit crazy. :-)

I am not taught testimony over evidence. My church fully embraces evolution. We see Genesis for the story and the poetry.

Authority beyond understanding: that gets back into the theological allegiance insisted on by the fundamentalists mainly.
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> I find it neat? strange? that IMO numbers have checksums:

It’s a relatively common feature of ID numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn_algorithm
I read it was six, running 24 hours a day, which moved 27,000 metric tons of sand.

Which, sounds like a lot of sand to me. Seems like software engineers would have the best understanding of slowly but steadily working towards a goal since that's been my life since I started in this field!

But, also, I admittedly bit the hype train too on how hard it was going to be to get this thing dislodged.
> stagnated under his leadership over the decades.

I disagree. I think FSF is/was until recently the strongest ever.

Free Software has advanced greatly in the past 20 years, that’s not entirely due to FSF, but in part. I don’t think RMS is the singular force behind FSF but I don’t think it’s correct to say that FSF sucks or that it’s sucked because of RMS.
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Pulse oximeters have been a notable instance just this year:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/16/9472260...

The problem has been known for some time, but has only been front page news recently. I don't know of any technological improvements to come of this yet, but I hope people are working on it. It might be exactly the kind of thing a bright high schooler could figure out.
Prospective employers often do...
Note he fires them while supporting the union movement Solidarity in Poland. Totally sick. The beginning of the capitalist destruction of democracy.
And that's why, almost 40 years later we have another HN front page post [1] right now saying the NMP package netmask, used by more thank 250K apps to handle all the esoteric standard conventions for notation in IPv4, this microservice got a few edge cases wrong and so everyone needs to update !

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26620538
If people need to fear a God or Hell to be a good person, there is value in the stability that generates. Plenty of people out there who do believe and still do terrible things to others.

If someone has a positive experience at church and it adds value to your life, I’m not judging nor do I have anything bad to say about the value it provides.
Also, a note to dang: this is poorly titled, but it's a good question. It should be unflagged.