skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You make it sound like any of the conditions are pervasive, they employ 876,000 people, if the conditions were as bad as the media makes it seem I would imagine there being more outcry instead of the media having to blow up specific instances of things happening.

Where there's smoke there is fire is the saying, so maybe it is that bad but that's not what I understand it to be.

Edit: Also from all the documents we've seen it would appear Amazon leaks like a sieve so I would also expect way more damning evidence to have appeared by now.
Everything about git feels half-baked tbh
This was finally done away with in 2011. I only found out because I was surprised that our second child's SSN (issued in 2012) had a different prefix than that of our first child (2009).
For my fellow Americans, pissed in British English means “drunk” - which makes it even more hilarious.
> Why should big tech companies be able to challenge democratically elected representatives?

Every person and every (legal) institution should be able to (verbally and in writing) challenge a democratically elected representative.

I can't understand why that even needs stating?

She's literally threatening legislative retribution for being "snotty" to her. That's appalling, surely?
One of the explanations for this is that due to covid most public restaurants/bathrooms were closed, forcing some drivers to resort to alternative means... At the very least I don't think it's fair to jump to any conclusion about Amazon forcing people to pee in bottles.
Clickbait title. The author literally says "Spoiler alert. I do not hate submodules." and also later recommends submodules for language ecosystems that don't have built-in package managers.

The author also gives (IMO) 2 weak reasons against submodules.

(1) He says its hard to know which repo you're editing (main repo or submodule). I agree, but in practice this hasn't been an issue for me. A simple `git status` or `pwd` is usually enough to know which repo I'm editing.

(2) The author also says that committing changes with submodules can be confusing since it involves multiple commits: one commit in the submodule, and another in the main repo to update the commit it points to. I agree this is a little confusing at first and definitely tedious, but conceptually I think it is pretty simple.

That said, I do agree that submodules are confusing -- just for different reasons.

My main gripe with submodules are that they don't work well with the rest of git. Why isn't adding a submodule just a `git add` to a directory with a git repo inside of it? If there are new commits in a submodule, why doesn't `git checkout .` reset it back to the commit the main repo points to? If I clone a repo with submodules, why do I need to run additional submodule commands to get an exact copy of the codebase? Basically, to me it feels like submodules were slapped onto git as an afterthought and little care was taken to think the git CLI experience as a whole. I think submodules would be a lot less confusing if git had designed a better CLI for it.
Agreed, but I also agree with Warren that Amazon should be broken up. Warren’s stance pales in comparison to the machine of suffering that is Amazon fulfillment/retail. Nuance and pragmatism.
Yet options are dwindling here where I am. As a teen there was a shopping mall packed with choices. Now the nearby mall has so many vacant slots it's a wonder they're still open.
I disagree, the author seems to blame women:

> "If there weren’t both women who made false accusations and an audience eager to hear and magnify such accusations, then the upstanding investors would have nothing to fear about being candid. But, unfortunately, both do exist."
They aren’t making a whole lot of new conservatives in America. Centrist Democrats are either aging out or getting pushed out. Change takes time. Gotta defend against people like Bezos in the meantime ($187B? and still throwing a childish fit about your workers trying to have better working conditions? Really?).
30 years ago the feminist and equality movement was very different from today's view, and not all for the worse. A lot of focus was then to eliminate gender in the ways people were treated, with the more extreme parts of the movement wanting to eliminate gender roles all together. Gender segregation in Northern Europe held the best numbers 30-40 years ago, and has only gotten worse since with pretty large strides. Gender segregation today is more like the 1920 than the 1990's.

women murdered per capita has indeed gone down, but so have the general murder rate. Men are still murdered far more often than women, and reached the highest ratio ever measured in the last summery by the government agency BRÅ, with around 77% to 23%. I would be careful to attribute such numbers to gender equality, especially since the trend seems to continue upwards.

The statistics for assault and sexual assault has similar complexity. The combined risk of being assaulted or sexual assaulted has been historically similar for both women and men, with assault being more common for men and sexual assault for women. Between 2012 and 2018 there were a major increase in sexual assault, and especially rape after 2015. The reason for this can't really be discussed since it involve an other political hot topic.

It still might be a rapid change that is causing people to overshoot, but it is likely a much harder token to measure. Changes in political power.
wut?

Even before the industry was heavily regulated and hours limited, long-haul truckers chose to pee in bottles for efficiency. Faster, safer and made them more money.

Also do you have any idea how long it takes to get in and out of a construction crane? And how dangerous? It's absolutely a physical constraint. Operators have to climb and it's about 15 minutes each way. They have to take breaks so they don't get sweaty. You absolutely do NOT want to do that when you're holding in piss.
> They scrape your profile from other social media sites, then assign it a “value” with a dollar amount. You have to sign up to claim the value

Only if you are one of the ~1500 initial users they seeded the system with. You don't have any money waiting for you because nobody has invested in you.
About six months ago, I stumbled across a Github repository with zero stars, called Chromium Legacy (https://github.com/blueboxd/chromium-legacy). A seemingly-unknown Github account, with no profile and no other notable projects, had single-handedly backported Chromium Canary to work on very old versions of OS X, alongside an automated build system to keep everything up-to-date. Due to my interests, I was delighted!

The port had some major bugs, but I opened Github issues, and one by one, the developer fixed them. In a couple of cases, I helped track down the offending code, but he's done the vast majority of the work.

At this point, I have definitely opened more issues on Chromium Legacy than anyone else. I opened two more just hours ago, and I was going to open a third... but then I didn't, because I was feeling guilty. He's always thankful for the reports, but he usually apologizes (!), which makes me worry I'm just creating all this work for him... so I don't quite know what to do.
> it's also a type of sexism

I guess it depends on your definition of sexism. Reading these comments, and just general life experience, I believe different people have different definitions of what sexism is. Regardless of company policy or the law of your country.

Taking your definition of sexism I would say every interaction with a woman is a form of sexism. Everyone, at all times, tries to speak to another human being in a way that conveys a message. That manner of communication changes based on social norms. Which, as this article points out, currently seems to be differnt between the sexes.

Generally I believe people do try to "talk to their audience".

One example from my life: if I notice my colleagues have nice shoes, I point it out. If it was a female colleague, I probably wouldn't because of the risk of that social interaction "going wrong".

Someone could point out that complimenting someone on their footware is weird/wrong/shouldn't be done during working hours. If this is the case then I'm not talking sport or politics or local news or how you're kids are doing...

I think the article does a good job highlighting the downside of being hyper-aware of the social situation around a person trying to convey a message to another person, and how that could be labeled as inappropriate.
I don't see the point of submodules. If you want to make a change in another repo, do that. If you want to reference a specific version of another package in your code, do that. When would I want submodules?
> What about the last sentence regarding WIV scientists studying human-disease causing SARS coronaviruses until "permission is granted" by China's NHFCP?

What about it? This isn't any kind of warning that the lab is unsafe. It's completely normal (and good) for countries to regulate research into pathogens. Would you rather that China not require approval before labs study SARS-CoV?

I honestly don't think you understand what you are reading.
Indeed, if politicans are going to adopt the practice of governance by snotty tweets they can expect business and constituents to do the same as they have been doing. I do wish everyone would stop though.
I think the DX claim is pretty subjective. I find JSX much easier to use than all the others mentioned, and a great deal more flexible. The ease of use being that it’s just JavaScript (or more importantly TypeScript), with some DSL. That means it follows all the other rules of the environment in which it runs, and uses all the same tooling. It also produces a data structure that’s renderer-agnostic, so it’s trivial to adapt to different platforms and build targets.
A difficulty of being a minority of any stripe must be the not knowing.

It's incredibly hard to keep having an open mind, keep trying to figure out "Is this actually constructive criticism or toxic bullshit?" and keep trying to engage in good faith in the face of certain patterns. It's just exhausting. It takes all your time and mental and emotional energy to try to sort it out, which detracts from putting energy into things that will actually advance your career.

You can spend hours and hours wondering "What did he mean by that?" in an exchange that lasted under a minute. And you may never figure it out.

It's vastly easier to just start erring on the side of "You're all just sexist pigs!" Though, unfortunately, that seems to make the problem more intractable and unresolvable, but it makes is a little easier on a day-to-day basis to cope in the face of a situation that is inherently excessively hard to parse and navigate.
Hm; and yes, and no... in my case at least, I personally remember having more of those others - and for which I'm super grateful, they mean A LOT to me - i.e. the likes of, literally:

- The unforgeable "WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18295453 - my all time favourite comment that I don't stop mentioning when telling the story of my project, and that always makes my heart go warm.

- The pure "Just wanted to give you a thumbs up!" 'issue' - no strings attached, no "but [could you do this or this for me]"... https://github.com/akavel/up/issues/14 - plus, for some bonus love, a few follow-ups from other wonderful people... not even counting the people expressing their appreciation via the emoticons...

- A person came back a couple years later and said, they use and like my tool so much, they decided in act of gratitude to give me not one but three logo sketches that I could choose from; then they had enough patience to bear my pickiness until I fortunately finally came back to senses and took the first one of the sketches, which was IMO the best one from the beginning. https://github.com/akavel/up/issues/48

I still would say "yes, and no..." by which I mean, I'm still tired of this project enough that I can't muster strength to get back to it... sure, there were bug reports, and honestly, I understand and appreciate... I would open them too, and I treat them with respect... as I feel treated too (though also I have the fortune to be able to ignore or shut down occasional stupidity or demands). Yet I am still tired and drained of energy for now for this project. I sometimes muster a bit of it and improve some small parts. Sometimes. Maybe some day I'll get enough energy to again put more work in it. To finish some neglected PRs in need of love. So, as much as random demands can be part of the stress, and certainly don't make things easier, especially for some creators; as much as this, I think there must be also other psychological factors at play.
"Orphans of the Sky" by R.Heinlein, very much recommended read.
Is there a demo that we can play with? Collabora seems to be hiding theirs behind a web form.
This. It can be a challenge for anyone in the workplace, but I imagine it is harder for minorities.

One of the best pieces of career advice I have ever taken was from this TED talk: https://youtu.be/KzSAFJBLyn4

The section on Abraham Lincoln. Perceive no slights. It changed the way I approach people at work.
We're all out here only able to fix one bug at a time.
We bend in favor of comments that share personal experience, but after rereading this one several times, I think it crosses into trolling ("I’d do more or less anything to get away from women", etc.) and have banned the account.

Edit: also, please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post. We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You needn't use your real name, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26613077.
Please stop treating social issues like this as if they're Physics. There is no clear path to an answer and the more we try to reason and argue about these topics logically the more futile the attempt, it's like kicking harder and harder while in stuck in quicksand.

The effects of trying to find the truth show themselves as bi-products that affect culture and society in unhealthy and unforeseen ways. You can never know the intent of someone or why they act the way they do, you can only guess and even that takes a special type of person who feels comfortable enough doing so (reads lawyers) and a framework that encourages such speculation (legal system [0] or stock market.) Speculative systems are toxic and are festering ground for bias. If we want to live in a world ruled by truth and facts ironically the way to do it is not by forcing ourselves to understand something that is not Physics as if it is and by the same methods.

Ignore everything that pops up on these topics if your goal is to create a better society for all.

[0] some legal cases are clear cut, I'm not referring to those.
They claim to have received investment from Winklevoss Capital, and both the Winklevoss twins have claimed their profiles. I imagine that wouldn't happen for a company falsely claiming their affiliation.
"It doesn't work" issues are bad for all the reasons described in the article, but the ones that really boggle the mind are the _demands_ people think they can make of maintainers they have zero leverage over.

My favorite in recent history was a developer (who had never made any contributions to the repo, nor even filed the original issue) saying something to the effect of "if this issue is not resolved shortly, we will move our company to use a different software." Talk about threatening the maintainers with a good time.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/the-messe...

The Messenger Is the Message: Science Talk podcast, June 2020.
OAuth 2.0 password grant can be (mis)used for authentication the same way that LDAP Bind is used for authentication. That doesn't make either of them an authentication protocol.
Separately, another area where upside / downside risk of providing feedback is no longer good is in feedback to rejected candidates for positions.

Folks have said this can still be done, but our office was burnt by giving feedback, and the person in general likes to argue with it which is already a drain.

So anyways, no more feedback to folks not hired - period! Luckily this applies to all hires, you don't know at the early stage if someone is in a protected class.
I've banned this account. Laments for the absence of white-men clubs? No.

Creating accounts to post like this will eventually get your main account banned as well, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Agreed, I'm definitely not comfortable with her phrasing in several sections of the article, and it clearly has an impact since some people are saying that this behavior is also male sexism.

The author is, perhaps inadvertently, contributing to the problem.

BTW, yeah, this is one of my alt accounts.
Try to imagine a situation where this crappy job is the best of the available options.
I wouldn't either; that's why I don't. Just like how these people, if they don't want to work for Amazon, shouldn't.
The way I read the article, the majority of the cost is not on those "already at the top". Its on the women founders who are trying to make it.
The real problem is us, humans. We really struggle when all our coefficients and denominators go to 0 (cost) or ∞ (availability)

The Internet is Pandora's box. It's been wide open for 20+ years, and we just don't know what do about it, or even if anything should be done about it. Infinite information is something humans have never had before, and its greatest strengths are its greatest weaknesses.

This thread craps all over media (and with good reason), but the same force that makes that media available is the one that gives us hyper-local, unmediated information in near-realtime through Twitter, Facebook, et. al. You can't have the one without the other.
Steam does not exist in repos on ARM based distributions. So no, you can't just also run the Linux version of Steam and games without a need to use Wine... When it comes to using Box86 on ARM.
This does look cool. I wonder if there’s any interest in supporting JSX?
Don't feel like looking at it? Just ignore the bug report. Literally - don't even read the report.

Presumably this is what product management is supposed to function and give attention to, isn’t it-at least to an extent? Or have I misunderstood what those staffers do?

Seems lately I’ve seen developers frustrated about this because they want to be developers, but the company wants them to be everything and anything more (sometimes, maybe often-times because of poor resource allocation/chronic understaffing on the part of the business) from triaging feature builds to project managing entire releases.

Maybe I’ve worked at shitty companies.

In fact...now that I think about it.......
And possession of the original paper SSN card is sometimes required as a form of identity. Not the hardest thing to print.
“One worrying trend I’ve observed among my male investor friends is that they’re much more wary of giving candid advice to women founders than they used to be. They are afraid of saying anything that a female founder might misinterpret as sexism. So, when giving feedback to a woman they don’t know well enough to trust, they talk with less candor than they would with a male founder.¹ When this happens, women are missing out on potentially valuable advice.”

Oh. My. God. Just ask the person if they want your advice.

It’s the same in the (presumably male-dominated) workplace as it is in anywhere, such as giving unsolicited advice to someone at the (usually male-dominated) rock gym.
Hmm, that is not quite what I said.

If it did come from this research, which is being done openly with the help of many international collaborators, I don't understand how this could have happened without the virus being known to many more people, especially given the amount of time that passed from the first human infection to detection (which was enough for it even reach Europe!). It would be very surprising for no one else to know about it whereas normally such results are shared quite rapidly.

This is why the very person you quoted, and other people that were involved in such research that live outside of China, find the theory of a lab escape from this kind of research exceedingly unlikely.
More broadly: always set boundaries for yourself. You may not have a choice to ignore the bug in a corporate setting, but you need to be willing to kick issues back to the originator for lack of information and /or lack of willingness on their part to help isolate a way to reproduce the problem.
The difference in “level/depth of consciousness” between Minds and humans is an interesting one, because the scale matters a lot.

I say forget parrots and take it even further. Culture Orbitals are IIRC run by a single Mind, and contain tens of billions of humans. At that point, this analogy becomes plausible: “a mind is to a human as a human is to a yeast cell.” The name itself, “The Culture,” might be a sly reference to how we think of microscopic colonies!

Minds think on the order of nanoseconds or picoseconds too, fast enough for the distinction to be meaningless to me. That enables them to relate to humans with a vast timescale difference, perhaps on the order of (as a sibling suggested) a human managing a lawn, only with a full 3D (and x-ray and infrared and etc) view of each grass blade at all times. And the manager doesn’t have to sleep or generally spend more energy than raising a single arm-hair to attend to even the most troublesome specimens 99.999% of the time.

It’s a hard thing to comprehend, because in the novels the Minds are so engaged with individual humans: offering advice, presenting opportunities and options. If I carry the analogy through, we do the same thing by using probiotics, sanitary practices, etc. To a yeast cell, a sudden influx of sugar might look like a Mind’s sage advice does to a human seeking fulfillment.

Heady stuff.
In this case, the frequency of utils in your shell history.
Really cool. I've been looking for something like this and will be experimenting with 3d UIs. Interesting to see VR as well.
Can you give an example of what you mean by 'private communities'? Are they online? Can you give an example?
Sorry, I didn't mean any offense by the comment. If anything, I think even if the link was findable not finding it but saying you saw it somewhere is fine. In this case, ya, not being able to find the link is a good enough excuse to just mentioning that you saw it elsewhere.
All of which pay way more than $15/hour (median $27/hour for the crane operator, $21/hour for the trucker). There's nothing wrong with difficult working conditions - some jobs require it.

But when you see a job where the conditions are really horrible (for no reason, I might add - it's not like a warehouse worker taking a bathroom break puts an expensive piece of equipment on pause like a crane operator would) but the pay is incredibly low, that seems like a sign that the employer is using exploitative practices.
> Very real, also within corporations in proprietary code.

Yeah, I've fielded quite a few internal bug reports that amount to "it doesn't work". My stock response is becoming "what is the symptom you're actually experiencing when you say 'it doesn't work'?"; that usually gets more information.

(The internal ones are perhaps worse, as you are beholden to respond to them, since it's from a coworker.)
Marx is the most important critic of capitalism and dismissing his critique with “Stalin though” does not really address the point. Even if you think Marxism is totally bad in all it’s forms that does not mean that Marx’ critique of capitalism is invalid. You don’t have to be a cook to know if a soup is over-salted.