skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Do you have a timestamp for a specific quote?

I don't think there's a single timestamp for this since the exact question was never asked. But the gist is very explicit in his numerous talks (which note includes both the
Future of Life Institute and Singularity Summit), and I think https://youtu.be/d-bvsJWmqlc?t=203 sums it up beyond reasonable doubt.

> I can point at "Geoffrey Hinton and Demis Hassabis: AGI is nowhere close to being a reality"

This is a disaster of a headline, since while Hinton does, Hassabis never says that.

> The rest of the guesses were scattered between these two extremes, with the average estimate being 2099 — 81 years from now.

Which agrees with my point.
Is the distinction here between Roblox and Second Life that Roblox has official apps on mobile and console (that seems to be where he refers to it as a "metaverse")?

I've generally been under the impression Roblox is basically Second Life for kids.
What is ironic about it? All spy agencies, everywhere on the planet, do two things:

* spy on others

* try not to get spied on
And if companies like Amazon can turn them into a SaaS they immediately do so.
Ah my bad, I don't have much experience with forex
IsoHub.org belongs to Cuba.

StandardsHub.org is occupied by ISO
People tend to rationalise every flaws once they buy something. It's the same for computers, cameras, headphones, anything that can costs a lot of money really.

Tesla made electric cars cool and for that alone they deserve some respect, that being said historical constructors are catching up. I think the magic you're missing is that Tesla is a car company selling itself as a tech company, which is more exciting than good old historical constructors. Add a meme lord on top and you get a very good marketing duo
Covid vs. Self-Interest Voter Hypothesis
> When I say "nobody uses PowerPC", I mean that its market share is miniscule and the industry has moved on, I am not claiming that there does not exist some nerd somewhere who maintains a 20 year old imac as a hobby, and finding that nerd is not a disproof.

Well that's bad analogy, because unlike PowerPC there are more users of Ethereum than ever before, and Ethereum is generating more revenue than ever before.

> Self driving cars are new technology. Online betting is not, it has been around since the beginning of the internet. Blockchain is doing nothing but helping the illegal gamblers to hide from law enforcement.

I think you're being obtuse. Ethereum is the new technology here, that enables a distributed betting platform that was previously not possible. Self driving cars are a new technology that enable a type of transportation (existing market, like betting) that previously wasn't possible.
Why invade a country, when you can shut down its infrastructure and force them to surrender? War isn't won by killing, its won by conquering. I also suspect that machines will be so effective at killing, that you won't be able to find soldiers stupid enough to fight them head to head. We have yet to see the full capabilities of a cyber super power.
I don't see how any of these are deal-breakers for the viewers and if the viewers are there, the streamers aren't going anywhere. The network effect is real - it doesn't matter how good your streaming platform is if no one is using it.
For those who are actively using esbuild with TypeScript, how do you check the types?
It is another level. So many people missed the bus and are just salty or frustrated. I am so surprised that this happened given all of us are in tech (and have good income and awareness of blockchain) and it would have made sense to invest just a bit in all these years to see where that takes us.

Now it is all about how Bitcoin is a ponzi, key reason for climate change and solves no issues whatsoever. Maybe all those things are correct (I don't know) but it sure was a good way to make a lot of money -- and most of the people here just missed it.

And this hate is not new. Look at this well commented thread from 2015 when Bitcoin went down to $180 and HN is still filled with comments like that this is not surprising and they don't see it coming back from hereon: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8884838

We haven't learned anything? Have we?
When I was in the last few months of tech school, Ft. Meade recruited our class. Apparently, the school had a deal with them.

I decided not to pursue. I wasn't particularly thrilled with being a janitor for six months, while they cleared me.

These days, I doubt they'd touch me with a ten-foot pole. Young folks are clean slates. Us old farts are baggage, personified. No "red flags," but I'm also really cynical, and they'd have a hard time getting me to jump through their hoops.
I used to believe. Bought when it was US$ 1k, sold at 1.1k when I ceased to believe, and have no regrets whatsoever. Perhaps I am missing something ("the market is always right"?), one day we will know.

If Bitcoin diverts surplus money from real estate for a while, and fellow software developers/cypherpunks sell it one day before the bubble bursts, therefore taking money from boomers and FOMOs, I am happy enough.
Sounds like someone wants their shorts to pay off.
Think that's out of scope - doesn't snowpack (which uses esbuild) cover this though? https://www.snowpack.dev/
Is it just bitter people who missed out on making a lot of money? Or is it sober and relatively informed people who are assessing Bitcoin correctly? How do we tell the difference between the two?
The bars are quartiles, so 25% of the probability mass is for ~53 years away or closer.

Note that timelines for the HLMI variant of the question[1], which was asked to more people, had more like a 50% aggregate probability for 50 years away, per Figure 1.

[1] “High-level machine intelligence” (HLMI) is achieved when unaided machines can accomplish every task better and more cheaply than human workers.
> An ISO standard costs fraction of what the developer's time reading said standard costs.

Well, what if I'm tinkering in my spare time? I think if you want people to use a standard like this, you shouldn't charge for access to said standard.

Or you can, but stuff like this comes up. Seems petty to me. There are lots of people out there that don't have money for this, and I can't think of any positives around that.
Can we get a title change to something like “Subverting Privacy-Preserving GANs: Hiding Secrets in Sanitized Images,” which is the title of the paper they are talking about and not the clickbait title?
> Sweden the government will actually garnish your salary and repossess your stuff for private debts.*

It's called "attachment of earnings" in the UK there is no special agency for that, it's just a court order sent to the debtor employer.

This also exists in most US states, I believe it's often called "wage garnishment" there.

Repossession or seizure of property also exists in the US and the UK (and indeed most countries). Here in the UK there's even a TV show about that, with the cool name of "The Sheriffs are coming"...
He said in the past that he's not interested in implementing HMR[0]

[0] https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/97
"And as if forcing IE on all Windows users wasn't bad enough, Microsoft forced Apple to bundle IE for Mac as their default browser instead of Netscape. If Apple refused, Microsoft would discontinue MS-Office for Mac. Steve Jobs was loudly BOOED as he announced that IE would be the default browser."

https://youtu.be/WxOp5mBY9IY?t=142
US Sues Diesel Truck Tuner EZ Lynk over Emissions Defeat Devices
That makes sense. If they did not deem it viable then, and their minds have not changed, then they should not deem it viable now.
I think there are two aspects to "simplest" here:

1. You want a compiler that's short and easy to understand.

2. You want a simple definition of what this subset of C is so someone using it knows what's allowed and what isn't even if the compiler doesn't give helpful error messages and perhaps doesn't even detect all errors.

The answer is probably something like C89 with no preprocessor and a simplified type system. Definitely no aggregate types (array, struct, union) and no pointers to functions. Remaining questions include:

* Are you happy with a 32/64-bit char and sizeof(everything) == 1?

* Are you happy to lose the distinction between signed and unsigned types? If you have everything signed then it is hard to avoid undefined behaviour, and if you have everything unsigned then there's a nasty mismatch with the prototype of main and standard library functions using int.

* If you do throw away the signed/unsigned distinction, do you tell people to survive without <, <=, >, >=, or do you tell them to only compare signed (or only compare unsigned) values?
The funds biggest stock is Tesla so she is doing her job of making them more interesting, as she should.
I would think overflow is a very rare problem for floats; I don't think any code I have ever written would need to handle the overflow case. The more significant problem should be precision loss.

Is the algorithm in [1] significantly more precise for inputs that don't result in overflow?

Edit:
I made a small program to check a few values. It is seems like the algorithm in [1] is better in terms on precision, but only by a small margin (on the small set of values I checked).
So? I'd be happy if people would consistently use RFC 3339 (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3339). This will solve 99.999% you're going to run across. If you're part of that 0.001% who actually needs the standard - then it will be worth a few bucks to obtain it.
> Webpack solves a lot of edge cases well

I would quibble with the word "solves". Webpack is a tool building tool. With Webpack, you can build a tool to solve your edge case problem, as long as you're willing to spend a lot of time and dig through random Github issues for your dependencies. Webpack itself however does basically nothing.
> Obviously, the Submit button should be over on the left, just under the main form, where the user will visit it in due course after dealing with the other widgets, and the Reset button should be way over on the right, where it is less likely to be hit by accident.

So, there is one plausible intuitive argument for why his preferred way would be better. Does that make his preferred way "obviously" better?

Here's another plausible intuitive argument. In left-to-right languages, right is forward. Left is backward. Submit is forward. Reset is backward. Putting submit on the right and reset on the left caters to our established instincts for going forward when things are satisfactory and back when things need to be redone.

Now we have two arguments pointing in opposite directions, which should not be surprising, because arguments of this kind are far from conclusive. They don't make anything "obvious."

> Does my “obviously” come across as superior and condescending? Honestly, it comes from a place of humility. My thinking is like this:

His thinking does not take into account 1) how weak his initial argument was, and 2) that every domain contains some truths that are obvious with deeper thought and experience but are counterintuitive to most beginners.
Maybe. I trust people more than machines for the near/moderate future.
Early is subjective too. Anyone who heard about it before 2020 is probably kicking themselves a little. I imagine most inexplicably angry HN posters first read about it before 2015 (missing out on at least 100x profit; $10k -> $1M).
People are leaving twitch because it's so bad. Unfortunately I can't share that data with you, so I don't expect you to believe me.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree because we're not finding common ground here.
> That's irrelevant to the question of whether prisons are wrong to provide it.

And that question was outside of the topic I was originally discussing.

> Bloomberg was famously forced to drop prison labor, regardless of the terms offered.

Because there was no real option to provide better terms. As pointed out by myself in that very same cousin thread, prison labor compensation in the state of Oklahoma has a monthly cap of less than $30, which is pathetically low, even when deducting room and board (which would itself be coercive, given that prisoners by definition can't exactly opt out of said room and board), and especially when factoring in price markups in prison commissaries.

The popular blanket objection to prison labor exists specifically because there are few (if any) prison work programs in the US that pay prisoners anywhere close to a fair wage. Indeed, if they did pay a fair wage, and weren't coercively presented to inmates as "you either work or you rot in the cell", then what reason would there be to object?
I love lua, but roblox ide and general way how it works have made an impression of gimmick only used to bait parents into "my kid is learning programming", when in fact the system is pretty dull and feels too artificial.
Because you are too lazy to start them.
Waymo study says autonomous vehicles would prevent deadly AZ crashes
> While not a perfect measure, proven cases can be used to estimate a persons immunity duration as well as the number of people who had covid but were never diagnosed with covid.

I made a site that does exactly that: http://covid.mremington.co

To estimate true recovered infections from cases, I am using the heuristic defined here: https://covid19-projections.com/estimating-true-infections-r...

Based on T-cell studies, I assume natural immunity to be long lasting, though I may introduce another variable for immunity length.
> If Bitcoin diverts surplus money from real estate for a while, and fellow software developers/cypherpunks sell it one day before the bubble bursts, therefore taking money from boomers and FOMOs, I am happy enough.

Interesting admission.

Wanting to see some group suffer seems to be the motivation for a decent amount of the bitcoin hate on HN.

Guess you simply hate some other groups more than you hate bitcoiners.
The Psychology of Loss Aversion in Portal
The Uyghur Genocide: An examination of breaches of the 1948 Genocide Convention
Seems like another case of "this should have been a tax instead of an easily circumventable kverly-specific regulation".
I’d prefer if other people were polite and didn’t accuse others of racism over innocent remarks.
I agree, I think the two things that killed Flash were "Steve Jobs" (aka - a lack of foresight around the explosion of the mobile market and no competitive offering in the space), and the continued treatment of security as a technical debt item rather than a differentiating purchase distinguisher that buyers were actually concerned about. That is, I don't think Adobe correctly recognized that corporate buyers would start buying Intranet applications that were not built on Flash/Flex specifically due to security concerns.
> since it at least puts more focus on creating rather than consuming.

My point is, there's no focus on creating. You're imagining Minecraft, but you don't make stuff in Roblox. You can make stuff in Roblox Studio, but there are hardly any 8 year olds doing that, because you have to write Lua, and 8 year olds categorically cannot do that. Unless they're prodigies, in which case, they will thrive doing many things, and creativity expressed in Roblox is the symptom and not the cause of their gifts.

What do kids actually do? There's a lot of "casual" role playing games, clicker games, shooter games and things that feel like Counter-Strike custom maps from the early 2000s. It feels a lot like a Steam Workshop page. Clunkiness abounds, stuff that even older children will not play.
So yes this is exactly why I hate it so much. Not because I personally didn't get rich from it.

But because we engineered a way to magnify the wealth of the people who need it least, at a huge environmental cost for no reason.

It's like all of the worst tendencies of our society reduced down and maximized.
My point is that our fellow citizens deserve dignity of work and an ability to feed themselves. This is but one example of automation displacing workers, but there are plenty of other examples that also include non automation related job eliminations.
Will wait until the solo mode is available then :)
Netflix? Books? Youtube?

They're giving up on streaming because they hate twitch that much.
Unless they're going to reject your credit card for being associated with another account. Which seems entirely possible, though I don't know if they will or not.

You could also get another credit card, but what a hassle.
I appears to me that my actual statement "backup to other servers" is clear enough.
So show track location, cookies and show ads instead?
Personally don't think it's a FOMO thing it's more of a "why is this so profitable" thing?

The success of Bitcoin isn't entirely rational. And people generally (probably disproportionately so on HN) try to analyze phenomenon like this analytically.

The thing is though...financial markets are not always rational. This isn't unique to BTC.

Edit: typo
MS Office is a good example, and like you mentioned Word is pretty much Word from 10 years ago.

But you know who else does this? Book publishers. Specifically, textbook publishers. Every year there is a new edition of a calculus or algebra book. So this is a business model that has been around for awhile, and takes a variety of shapes. Such as planned obsolescence.

Software has it easy today, though. They can just cry "security updates" and instantly have a solid case for the subscription model. Even if it is nonsense.
Well the S&P is an index of the largest companies so they're going to be more solid than the rest of the market. WeWork was attempting an IPO and had a ton of hype, if that hype was because of improvements on marginal costs you would have seen it there. The S&P 500 PE ratio is objectively high right now. Whether it's high because of strong fundamentals or bubble effects is the million dollar question.
https://www.macrotrends.net/2577/sp-500-pe-ratio-price-to-ea...
This life is not just about expanding our wealth.
Humblebrag alert: Yes, I was blown away by what my 12yo was doing with Lua
because of his Roblox obsession. As mindless and addictive as Roblox looks,
there's a very important silver lining here.
How do you survive without any money?
Tech recruiter here. What you are saying fits neatly with my observation that during a bull market the specialists tend to do great, amazing compensation, lots of contracting options.

When the market turns these are the first to be downsized because they are very expensive. The generalists are more sought after because firms try to produce the same output with fewer resources, and for this you need the jack-of-all-trades types.
"Worst" compared to packaging software in other languages.

> If you have something better in mind, please implement it. It’d get used.

Nonsense. It's not a dearth of better options that causes C folks to clutch their autotools and bash scripts and punting-altogether-on-dependency-management; we've had better options for decades. Change will happen, but it will take decades as individual packages become less popular in favor of newer alternatives with better features--build hygiene will improve because these newer projects are much more likely to be built in Rust or "disciplined C" by developers who are increasingly of a younger generation, less wed to the Old Ways of building software.
Pain is information, and an encouragement to change what you’re doing or how you’re doing it.

A little reorganization of your code can make an order of magnitude difference in how fiddly the scaffolding is. Does that mean your code structure is informed by tests? Yes, yes it does. But classic car designs are informed by access for repairs, and some vehicles are cherished for their ease, others become a topic of complaint and camaraderie. Really any industrial design has an element of this.
This is how I read things as well. so much jealousy.

I stop reading any btc criticism at the endless climate impact/criminal activity discussions.

Of all the things that impact climate change, this is the offender we decide to focus on?

Of all the ways criminal activity is facilitated, this is currency we focus on?

Such a brilliant technology seems lost on HN because people are jealous they missed the boat.
No? Your link says nothing about "completely," you just made that up. What it does say is that they remove the "nonessential" bits, plus flip the HAP bit. You can do both of these things yourself with me_cleaner, but it's not good enough. Exploitable vulnerabilities have been found in the bits that cannot be removed.

edit: E.g. https://nitter.dark.fail/rootkovska/status/93845887552266649...
It's also very regular. I have been monitoring "new" and looking at it's content and I see a lot of regularly posted negative Bitcoin content. I actually don't think there are any other subjects on HN that are so universally attacked with such regularity.
That's a false dichotomy.

I think bitcoin is genuinely hated, just like a lot of people and technology are hated.

It doesn't necessarily come from an analysis of bitcoin, whether rational or irrational.

And it doesn't necessarily come from people who are upset because they think they are too late to make money from bitcoin.
Is there a version of this article that doesn't spend so much time dicking around?
That situation is one of the most costly mistakes, in every way i can think of, in software engineering period.
CERN: Licensing the Web
There is a moral obligation to blackmail people who have material information about an imminent terror attack, or anything else which may threaten innocent lives. If I were you, I'd be much more concerned about why being exposed as gay in the Palestinian Territories is a threat capable of flipping an asset.
[snarky comment removed, my apologies]
This is a very poor assessment. I'd suggest watching some Devin Nash videos. Whoever you're talking to on discord is not giving you a complete picture.

Twitch is essentially a hardcore user's platform. Engagement is extremely high vs other platforms. That's what keeps content creators on twitch, even if they're making the bulk of their income from putting the VODs on youtube: they can't create the same content and interactions on other platforms.

Again, as explained in a sibling comment, competing against twitch is a terrible opportunity. It's a miserable business to try to make a profit margin on, and your #1 competition doesn't care if twitch loses money all day. The ad market for streamers is all wonky because so much of the content is radioactively toxic.
I don't understand - is your logic that frustration means you didn't make money? If you made money off bitcoin would the hate be more or less warranted? I'm confused.