skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Just open an account on some real broker website like DEGIRO that does not engage in to pay for order flow like RobinHood and Trade Republic do.
I can still buy GME if I want to there, although I am not doing it.
Because spam isn't helpful to other ordinary people browsing the store.
Rotten Tomatoes has pulled the same shenanigans before when a "this was supposed to be popular!" movie ended up with poor ratings from mere users. If anything, the lack of kickback to them has only emboldened moves like this one.
What If Wall Street Bets Was a BBS?
As crazy as it might sound, an interesting thought experiment would be what if WSB was a dial-up bulletin board system. Putting aside the fact that most people don’t even have a dial-up modem anymore, is it conceivable that the phone company would shut it down? The FCC? It seems like the old days of BBS’s were a decentralized social network.
some are in-house but doing code surgery on the tool and then redeploying our stack is annoying. we'd rather make quick modifications on the front end.

some are SaaS where we don't have access to the codebase. think Salesforce, Zendesk, or Jira.
*some customers don't want.

I personally would love to have the option in return for a portion of the 2-3% + fraud fees.
I think with Robinhood Instant you can by stock before the bank transfer has cleared, so they need cash on hand to fill the orders. The rising demand x rising order amount means they probably blew out their liquidity allowance.

With new accounts starting with Instant capability, they are all on margin until the transfer clears.
I mean, you can totally "meme about stocks" in a way that's blatantly a violation of the law. There are laws about what you can and can't say when you've got a financial stake in it/something to gain. (As an example, Elon Musk's SEC troubles from his Twitter use)

I'm not suggesting the average poster/average discussion has necessarily broken the law, but there's likely more than a few who have.

And if Facebook went "What's happening in here may be illegal and is too much of a business/legal risk to us to continue to condone, so we've shut it down. We've also updated the rules for all groups in the future to reflect this." - That'd seem to be kind of reasonable.

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Banning it with an arbitrary, inaccurate reason and seemingly no clear guidance as to what the lines of acceptable/not are going forward? That's what I take more issue with.

I think platforms have to be able to moderate content to function, but that the rules surrounding it should be as transparent and consistent as possible.
The position of essentially every platform is that you can shut down however you wish to draw a circle (a person, a subforum, a website, a business, a demographic) as long as you can prove someone inside of it said nigger, or whatever your "content violation" du jour is. The natural effect of this is Soviet/Chinese style effective bans on more than a certain number of people congregating in one place unless they are explicitly approved.
Pairing maybe?
Please note that this is a slow process and the stocks may be worthless by the time you completed the transfer. They will also likely freeze your ability to do anything with those stocks during that time. Some people say up to 15 days.

If you're doing the meme stock with RH, it is probably safer to leave it there for a bit.
At what point is UX meaningless or indistinguishable from "best practices" though? I agree it's a shame it's conflated with cosmetic/UI work.
I never said "deserved long term return." I'm saying that a hedge funds made bets, deals, ultimately with these WSB crazies. That position represents risks that they are being shielded from.

Most of these people aren't holding any stocks. They're buying derivatives, so they technically have no stocks to dump. They will likely bet like crazy on the downward part too.
You don't want a world where people can be deplatformed, but you want facebook to deplatform people?

If I built an uncensorable distributed/federated FLOSS Facebook equivalent (fedbook?) with distributed moderation (personalized so it censors out the things that would offend you/spam from your feed, or whatever you set it to) and it became popular, would you be for that?

Do you think it that Hateful Ideas wouldn't be compelling on such a market?

Would you deny facebook to everyone if you could, because the shape of facebook-like sites is corrosive to the mind in and of itself, in a way that private chatrooms aren't?
I could respect wanting to deplatform absolutely everyone, in a unabomber way. But somehow I doubt that's your position.

I just don't see how whatever advantages you claim facebook has given to 'assholes', it hasn't given to e.g. BLM twice over- with feeds tuned to engagement and rage etc. and also the Official Blessing.
It is, but the Firestorm cores can do 2x more scalar FP executions per clock than Zen 3. Still, for a full browser benchmark like Speedometer 2, I would've liked to see better results from 5800H/U given their large cache bumps from last gen.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16226/apple-silicon-m1-a14-de...

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-di...
> In a normal mortgage the bank cannot take your house if you make payments.

Depending on a loan agreement... It can

The last time this has happened en masse was as recently as 12 years ago.

Since then, people started reading loan agreements a bit more carefully, hence the decline in the number of banks demanding completely unconditional recall clauses.
There used to be a guy on Twitter/Facebook/other social media who kept harping about how the system was rigged....
Scary to think that after four years of solid market gains it could implode because of retail investors getting angry.
My understanding from other threads is that RH accounts default to being a margin account, and that most people don't opt-out of margin.

I would never apologize for RH, I thank them for pushing mainstream retail commissions to $0, but I don't do business with them (and never have) because they don't seem to have focused on the important parts of being a brokerage.
>why aren’t these platforms helping WSB mods instead of banning the community

I saw a news item that said Discord is, and was, and the server is back up with improved moderation.
Pateron? What? Pateron has the worst UX of any platform I regularly use.

Sign up to be a pateron of some artist to download their works. Your only way to do this is to scroll through the list of all their posts one at a time in an endless scroll. And to add insult to injury the page will crash and you have to start over from the top of the scroll, there is no way to start 50 or 100 posts in.

For artists offering media via pateron a good UX might be something like Mega.
It might help but they were charging the fee back in May, which is as far back as the wayback machine shows for the page.
My experience is similar (no transfer fee), neither from personal brokerage account or from a 401K into my personal IRA.

I didn't notice that, that's bullshit.
Most brokerages charge for ACATS out, it is also very common for the brokerage receiving the transfer to pay the fee for you.

https://topratedfirms.com/brokers/fees/brokerage-account-tra...

You can see most brokerages charge around there, some charge nothing, some charge more.
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You do not appear to be arguing in good faith.
The irony of the company's name just occurred to me.
So... Viral content?
Liquidating your stocks to transfer them between firms has significant tax implications, both because it can cause a large number of capital gains events and can be seen as potential for being categorised as a wash sale.
If there is any adult content (in the form of swear words) it is moderated and marked NSFW on wsb.

If that was the issue, all Facebook had to do was issue a warning and make the group adults only or something like that. This outright ban is just insane.
IOT medical device security is an increasingly worrying issue, particularly with many platforms wanting to warehouse the data generated.
> the frictionless, almost-free trading platform they imagined it was

Maybe we all should stop to consider whether free & frictionless are worthwhile aspirations. Ice has a lot less friction than concrete but I certainly don’t want to walk to work on it.

Maybe a little bit of friction in our news, investments, social media, communications, etc. is a good thing. Give our brains a chance to digest information and let the intelligent & cooler minds prevail rather than impulsively smashing the share or downvote button.
It might be fishy but there is also a lot new interest in WSB and everything related. So much interest that /r/WSB voluntarily shut themselves down for a while because they couldn't handle the moderation situation.

So why it's happening now can more multifaceted than the more conspiratorial reasons. Even increased media attention is enough for someone to act -- The Hackernews community uses that all the time to get apps unbanned from the app store, for example.
Zucc's buddies called in a favor.
I think it is probably illegal but SEC fines are so light they are just considered part of the price of doing businesses. If the SEC did something more reasonable like charge 5% o revenue for a year then these companies would sit up and take notice.
March 4th.
Whoever gets to decide what's "violence and terrorism groups" can just remove whoever they want. So your stance, combined with centralization, immediately leads to tyranny.
I know with Vanguard I can make trades without the funds in my money market. But that's perhaps because the trades can be covered by liquidating other holdings(I have x days to get the money in and they say they will liquidate to cover it if the money isn't there).
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Are you looking around? So is Fakebook.
I thought the point of universal basic income was that it is universal. Everyone gets it so you don't have welfare cliffs.
Cloudflare helps dictators stay in power, but sure is nice for marketing to roll on “freedom of speech”
The whole idea of protocols instead of platforms is that there's no central owner to turn evil or foot the bill (having to make money to scale up to user growth can create a conflict of interest). Users aren't as locked-in as they would be on a closed platform.

I wrote about this in detail last night: https://seirdy.one/2021/01/27/whatsapp-and-the-domestication...

Users aren't necessarily the product in social media; this is only true of mainstream centralized networks.
Bro just build your own AWS
> Access to margin is not automatic to everyone, and requires you to upgrade to Gold.

https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/margin-overview...
That would make sense, except they allowed sells instead of buys. Right?
There are higher frequency indicators capturing essentially the same dynamic derived from securities lending agents (e.g. borrow rate, availability) and option markets (estimated from end of day open interest)
Swagman
I don't know, I was expecting some super clean, low level, robust compiled code; and what I found was an angular mess with terrible UX.
Etrade charges the same $75 fee for total account closure, but i think the fee for ACATs without closing the account is lower. It's not entirely uncommon to screw customers already severing ties with their brokerage, but the receiving brokerage is usually happy to cover it or throw you some other bone to incentivize you.
Almost all brokerages charge a ACAT fee. Stop trying to make this in to something it isn't.
you forgot the most important one:

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it's a good place to start because it's easy and can give confidence for tackling the harder ones
Have you tried calibre? It’s a proper ebook reader app that allows you to define custom dictionary URL patterns.
With wireless headphones / earbuds becoming quite common, bluetooth for a laptop is less "optional" than it used to be.
- If you bought with $5k, $5k of stock - no leverage

- If you waited 3 business days for your deposit to clear

- If you waited for stock settlement before buying other stock.

Basically no margin, no 'instant' deposits, and needing 25k+. You wouldn't even bother using robinhood.
How do they make money? And why does it matter who executes your transaction as a retail investor.
The most fun use of OpenMCT I've seen was as part of a Finnish sci-fi LARP set on a spaceship: https://www.spatineo.com/odysseus-a-story-about-survival-usi...
Hardware: Starlink, ARM/M1, NVMe/SSD, active noise cancellation, AR, VR, OLED, MicroLED, Wifi, GPUs, portable cameras, quantum computing, multi-touch, self-landing rockets, drones, battery tech, robotics

Software: GPT-3, voice assistants, blockchain, compression, H.264/H.265/AV1, image processing, search, databases, BitTorrent/DHT, open source, MMORPG, autonomous driving, Wikipedia, Linux, map/reduce, deep learning, deep fakes, NEAT
Doesn’t webrtc use UDP?
A whole lot goes on behind the scenes with securities trading, your interface to it as a retail trader buying and selling is only the tip of the iceberg.

Most of the people talking about various conspiracy theories about brokerages have clearly very little idea of how brokerages work on the back end (and not very many people do know this) or what regulatory duties brokerages have and hwo that might inform decisions they make.

If you are a bit of a masochist, you can read all about it in After the Trade is Made https://www.amazon.com/After-Trade-Made-Processing-Transacti...
> Then you have to consider how they're getting these accounts which need credit histories and social security numbers.

Presuming an investment advisor pitching themselves as providing some kind of standalone, non-brokerage-affiliated "AI Investment-bot-as-a-Service" platform, the "bots" could be being operated in the name of their clients, acting upon said clients' brokerage accounts, with full explicit consent. (Like how Mint operated in its clients' names upon their online banking accounts, with full explicit consent.)

Ironically, I believe Robin Hood themselves offered a similar "AI Investment-bot-as-a-Service" system; though theirs was a much more mundane design, legally, in that it operated upon the clients' accounts within the Robin Hood brokerage, rather than upon the clients' accounts in external brokerages.
“GameStop effect” could ripple further as Wall St. eyes short squeeze candidates
"When you sign up for a new account, you’ll automatically start with a Robinhood Instant account, which is a margin account."

https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/robinhood-accou...
There is no safe dead code removal. If the code being removed has any effects in it (the encoding of which is possible in a pure language), the fact that it's unreachable could be a bug. If you sneakily just remove it without telling the user, you're colluding with the bug.

Recently, I discovered an like-new pair of shoes at the bottom of a closet. I bought them some four or five years ago, I guess, and somehow forgot about them. They got buried under other items. This was a day or two before Christmas; it was like an unexpected present.

Now, someone could have surreptitiously entered my home at any time before that and removed these "dead shoes". I would never have known.

So therefore, it wouldn't be stealing, right? It's a "semantics-preserving transformation of someone's belongings".
Curious what crime should be be charged with?
Do you think Judges who interpret laws should also be abolished? Because there is a lot of ambiguity in the law and we need the justice system to interpret and carry out laws.

Are you for Anarchy? otherwise, people in position will decide a lot of things for you including truth.
B2B SaaS companies offer a great UX to the people who pay for their software - long golfing trips, fancy dinners, powerpoints full of feature checklists. The users aren't the customers.
Aren't Deustche and VW German companies?
Given the number of new people being the size of a substantial city, the worst of them is statistically guaranteed to be worse than the most horrible professional troll, I would argue.
> Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive.

That's the way 4chan presented too, and it turned out that the community wasn't entirely as ironic as its members claimed.

Cultures turn toxic really, really fast. And this kind of "ironic offensiveness" turns into a shield for genuine hate in a way that even long term participants don't notice until it's too late.
> Because ultimately, all the finance whiz bang talk doesn’t change common sense that only allowing trades in one direction is unfair

Trump’s executive order in November is forcing Americans to divest from a bunch of Chinese companies - liquidating orders only.
Sure. I don't mean that it's unequivocally part of a conspiracy. But like I said, It can't go unaddressed. This isn't a Hacker news story about a banned app. It's international news, and the news isn't about WSB's (admittedly) bad language.
Doubt it. If current rates of progress continue, in 100 years five million deaths will be considered immensely tragic
+1, It's very rare I run into people on the internet that seem to understand this. We're all obsessed with getting our delicate stacks of tools to work together that we fail to realize we're building at entirely the wrong abstraction level.

The solution to slow SPAs is higher level frameworks and tools that compile away the slow runtime. Svelte is a step in the right direction. We have many more to go.

Honestly, I believe the role SPA front-end developer is overvalued at the moment, not because the job is easy, but because the tools are so poor. Once we see platforms that properly balance ease of use with expressiveness and composability, I believe there will be huge opportunity for development agencies to undercut the market.
Yes. They are a private company. Yes they can do what they want. And people can critizise. It was the same with Trump and it is the same now.
> Free speech is a nuanced topic, and not as cut-and-dry as you have been led to believe.

It is, actually. Your edge cases are disingenuous (or maybe you've just misunderstood them). It's like saying killing someone is a nuanced topic. Sure, there's moral complexities with things like abortion, war, or euthanasia, but, generally speaking, killing someone is pretty black-and-white wrong.

Free speech is the same way. Let's not mince words.
> paid social networks should be normalized.

Or social networks are so critical to our existence that they should be subsidized – and scrutinized – by the government. Like any other infrastructure.
Social networks come and go. There's an entire new generation of people who don't use Facebook.

It would be solvable with the free market as long as we don't allow big companies to consistently purchase their own competition.
Yeah,

and the so-called abstraction, either in the UX world or engineering world,

should be a mere default of how the underlying mechanism works, but everybody should still have access to the nitty gritty details.
> Came here to say that. UX should, by and large, be staffed with deep experience in User Psychology

Maybe if you're trying to convince people to part with money. Most applications just need UX designers that understand the users workflows and what they're trying to accomplish. When a person comes to this screen of the app why are they there? What data to they need? What are their next steps? Are the doing it for 1 item or 15?

Programmers want to create generic, do everything CRUD interfaces with 15 layers. "UX" people just want to make it pretty. No one is left to understand what they users are actually doing with the software.
> they don't seem to have focused on the important parts of being a brokerage.

That's because they don't. The entire application and order flow seem designed to limit the amount of information given to the actual user, in order to make them more confident in the decision. More confident users trade more stock.

I guess you could argue that "a brokerage makes more money the more stocks are traded, so they are doing the best of the brokerages", but would personally argue that a brokerage should have a responsibility to at least partially work in the best interest of their clients.

Out of curiousity I went through their option buying flow the other day (100% expecting to lose that money); it felt more like buying a lottery ticket than a financial investment.

I feel gross agreeing with Robinhood here, but it doesn't really sound like they were in a position to not take the action they did (this time).
This device monitors pressure needed to cause transient digital arteriolar occlusion using MEMs sensors.
It then uses an algorithm that uses this data along with pulse oximetry data to estimate the brachial arterial blood pressure.

In situations where it actually matters ( patients with abnormally low or high BP, patients with low peripheral perfusion, patients with peripheral vasoconstriction, critically ill patients ) this will be measuring something with little or no correlation with the brachial BP.

Theranos made similar promises...
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Not the OP, but I find Calibre burdensomely heavy for what I want, and Okular far too glitchy. Also, sometimes I am at PCs where I can't install arbitrary software.

I think we still need far more/better solutions in the open source e-reading space.
> It's much better to argue that FB is a monopoly than a natural monopoly.

Many laws and public discussions related to monopolies in general, as opposed to natural monopolies, are focused on pricing. FB can argue by saying "that's not applicable because our product is free for users".

> It's not at all obvious why FB cannot instantly die like all social media companies before.

About 35% of global population use facebook at least once a month. Global population counts newborn babies, and 10-15% of adults who can't read or write.

None of the prior social media companies achieved that size of their network.
But you don't have to regenerate everything on every pageload.
Could you explain a little bit more about this? Or point me in a direction where I could find out more? Super curious.
Thanks
A non-margin account can “Instant deposit” and begin using $1,000 immediately prior to the transaction clearing. Now, whether this is considered ‘traditional’ margin to the masses or Robinhood for the purposes of this freeze, I’m not sure.
In real time and willing and able to sell it to whomever bids more?
Wouldn't you see a similar rise in app store reviews though? Seems like that wasn't the case?
Arguably 10% may turn out to be the direct-attributable number if you zoom out far enough nationally or globally, but locally & temporally theres been significantly higher numbers. Also remember there’s a lot of death not captured in that number of people who died at home / were never tested / etc that gets captured in the “excess mortality” stat.

In NY State and NYC in particular its closer to 30%.
Counting total “excess mortality” in NYC is closer to 60% on the year. Note that we’ve annualized here and ~90% of the death in NY took place in about an 8 week period, where the daily death ratepeaked closer to 500-1000% of normal for a week or two. So yes, there was mass death.

There are many similar stories in areas of California, Italy, England, etc.
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