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> But we were talking about tolerance.

Tolerance for incitement to violence? I don't personally support tolerance of that, which is my right, and what I personally feel is better to avoid the spread of toxic cultures like found on Parler. Tolerance of diverse and non violence-provoking political opinions, including those I disagree with? That is something I totally support.

Parler clearly does tolerate incitement to violence, which is their right. Good for them for exercising it, but nobody has to support them, nor should anyone be prevented from supporting them. Likewise, if there are consequences (commericial or legal) for tolerating incitement to violence, Parler owns those too.

You are also free to tolerate it and provide services to support those who do.
I'm still not sure what this means though. Just that if you keep a blog your political leanings might slip out, which will cause you to get fired if you are discovered to hold conservative views?
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Of course Mr. Musk wants to hype up the impact of carbon emissions....Tesla Motors wouldn't turn a profit without the ability to sell ZEV regulatory credits to other automakers.

If Mr. Musk really cared about carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, he wouldn't fire rockets around up there every few days.
There are separate issues.

i) Antitrust - AWS's behavior may be viewed as an antitrust issue, acting in conjunction with a cartel. A party does not need to have majority market share to function in coordination with other dominate players in order to form a cartel that can manipulate the market. There's case law concerning market manipulation, access to industry and consumer protection issues where parties didn't need to directly coordinate to be considered a cartel.

ii) Practical dependence on service providers for access to critical digital infrastructure. To what extent do we depend on particular services for participation in society and the marketplace will influence the analysis. At what point does a data service provider begin to resemble a common carrier (i.e. cable, phone or internet provider) and in what context would common carrier laws apply?

iii) Contract issues - A few of the foreseeable issues include sufficient notice, contract breach, degree of harm (irreparable harm?), performance obligations.
They can't though. The states that would lose representation have the most incentive to block amendments. Amendments aren't done by referenda.
It was pretty much the standard story for any nascent steam preservation society in the 60s and 70s: is this worth a day trip to Barry Island, to find something.

I may be wrong, but its possible predating on wrecks there early on, reduced the viability of restoration for the latecomers. Its one of those net-present-value things.

The really good locos got held back, didn't wind up in Barry. Stuff in the York railway museum, the flying scotsman, Sir Nigel Gresley. But steam enthusiasts like domestic, boring, black little saddle-tank shunters, factory locomotives, the wierd and wonderful. They didn't have good hopes for being kept, in the big switch to diesel-electric.

I believe some stuff wound up being kept, because e.g. british steel (as was) hung onto them to run shunting in private railroads. So, if you had steam on-hand, you could convert from a coal fired steam engine, to a steam engine which re-charged its tank, and not have to do anything.
AGPL is meant to address the situation where someone takes GPL code, such as a database server, runs it on their systems (possibly with proprietary modifications), and provides network access to it to users, and does not provide those users with the source code. That is perfectly acceptable under GPL, GPL doesn't trigger if you aren't distributing the program.

What AGPL changed is that they made it trigger on distribution (like GPL) and on interactive access of modified versions over a network.

If Amazon's plan had been to make money by hosting a proprietary fork of the server, which would give them some sort of advantage over other clouds like Azure or Google that only have the non-proprietary version, AGPL would thwart them.

But that doesn't seem to be the case. They don't appear to trying to make it proprietary. They seem happy to run the same code that everyone else does. They are making money from it by selling management and support services for it.

AGPL doesn't impede doing that at all.
Hand computation mixed with theory.
If you do not know what you are doing and exercising with bad form, especially weight training, you will either a) get no where or b) injure yourself.

a) if you are not making progress. b) if you are.

This isn't a controversial statement. I'd love to know how many snark responses are coming from people who actually have experience training.

Seems to be this modern disease of the internet era where everyone assumes they know everything just by reading about it on their computers, with no respect given to actual experience doing the work.
It could be a norm in journalism that trans people are referred to by their birth names.

In fact, it used to be. It was a bad norm, we changed it.

I don't think this should be an unprincipled exception, that journalists should casually refer to people in ways they don't want to be referred to, unless they happen to be trans.

I think it should be the rule. Because not doing that makes you an asshole. And journalists shouldn't be assholes.
Reddit being just a synecdoche for "message board culture in the year of our Gritty 2020".
“All that nonsense”
Are the realities of running any software.
My working theory is that they didn't notice it until AWS pointed it out in the reply brief.

Their previous attorney apparently dropped them as a client sometime around the 8th, and I suspect this lawsuit was put together in extreme rush on the 10th to keep Parler running. It absolutely wouldn't surprise me if neither Parler nor the attorney actually reviewed the agreement in enough detail to notice that AWS had the right to terminate immediately. Admittedly, this theory doesn't explain how the antitrust count gets added.
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Right? "We are a representative democracy" is some Orwellian doublespeak. It leaves out "But some people are more represented than others."
> I really, genuinely, truly don't understand why people insist on understanding this only in the context of partisan censorship.

Because the same content exists on Facebook and Twitter (for the same reason: moderation is hard) but nobody is trying to disconnect them.

> If Big Tech really, truly wanted to censor conservative opinions for partisan benefit... why did they wait until months after the presidential election to do it?

They didn't. Twitter locked out the New York Post for reporting on the Hunter Biden story before the election.

What this appears to be about now is that the backlash from that sort of behavior was enough to cause a right-leaning social media site to become popular, and it continuing to grow in popularity would prevent them from doing similar things going forward.
Perhaps it will be. I'm super excited about Materialize! If it really takes off, it will surely inspire other projects.
"Requiring strict liability..." which is why I did not write that.

I would propose that moderation decisions be logged and reviewable on demand (at the plantiff's cost) in front of a reputable arbitrator of the platform's choice.
Ah, that's what I thought. There are FAANG offices in neighboring countries of course.
Sure, but this wasn't about calling Lana Wachowski "Lana" instead of "Larry", but rather about disclosing that Lana was formerly known as Larry, which is something the NYT still does.

And, of course, not all norm changes are bad. But I'm suspicious of norms imported from message boards, especially if they have the effect of depriving people of information. Better, in a situation like Alexander's, that the article simply not get written --- which is what happened.
The reason doesn't have to be political (at least in the sense of national politics). It could be something more prosaic: "if morpheuskafka writes about string theory and conference interactions they could just as well write something negative about how things are done around here."

And in fact morpheuskafka could write something negative about their institution, even (and most likely) accidentally. But then again morpheuskafka could write something positive about their institution, even (and most likely) deliberately.
That sucks though I’m not sure your story supports “the Bitwarden process for unsharing is broken”. If you could remove shared passwords from someone else’s vault wouldn’t that just leave _you_ with access, effectively locking out your spouse?
> Where is the controversy there? Did he sign a non-compete?

Controversy is that he accepted patches from OSS contributors, but assumed his own copyright on them, then sold his rights to big corp (Sun), which (Oracle) closed some sources, it is probably not very clean behavior.
And there's not a way to remove the egress pricing moat because it's so natural. Of course it costs less money to move data within a datacenter than outside of it. So, why wouldn't it cost less to do everything inside AWS? Egress pricing is probably multiples of this actual discrepancy to erect the moat even deeper.

It really does feel hopeless to run an open-source service that isn't running on an existing crowd. Perhaps that's one reason Snowflake is doing well.
It makes more sense to me to be honest. If I want to roll just a little bit to get a better position in a parking box, I don't want my foot to leave the break or be super careful about accelerating. I want to just barely move / not-be-stopped, and this implementation works just fine.
Right but "who is wrong" is what the disagreement is about, and if Elastic made the mistake then arguably it is them who are wrong.

In contrast, a number of people here are acting as if AWS is totally in the wrong. But the only wrong here is Elastic making the mistake and then acting as if the whole thing is AWS' fault. No, if you license your software improperly that's on you, not anyone else.
No, you can get punished for holding any negative views about your field.
Could you share more about the cable situation?
Why didn't Elastic release some SSPL v1.1 or SSPl v2.0 with this kind of clarification? SSPL v1.0 is considered by many kind of vague in terms of p. 13 "Offering the Program as a Service".
It's your last predicate there, about "journalistic value", that the whole debate take place within. Further: the NYT will studiously refer to Lana Wachowski as Lana, and not Larry, because deadnaming people is a dick move. But the NYT does not avoid pointing out that Lana used to be named Larry.
All the partisan boards I've seen, left and right, all plainly labeled themselves as such. If you're going to be a place for like-minded people, that's a selling point.

It doesn't make a lot of business sense to say, "we invite everyone in" and then plan on kicking out a lot of users.

There are loads of simpler reasons why lefties thought they were getting booted, especially incompetence on Parler's part.
That's a good argument against having a one-world government. Do you want a one-world government? I don't.
He's a talented writer.
i would hate this for a workspace. i would have to actually "be" there.

i would love this for use with my friends. we would get to "be" there.
Good. Australia is woefully out of its league when it comes to all things tech, with the strong encryption ban being a recent example. Send them back to the stone ages where the media industry is stuck. This bill is nothing but a cash grab.
Yea it's mostly a joke and shows how a lot of this is contextual. I personally consider 1999-2000 the transition into the 21st century. Arguments otherwise are little more than awkward pedantry. Year 2021 could be seen as either the 21 or 22 year of the 21st century but i'm willing to side with the validity of OP's title.
None. That's... kinda the point of OSS.
I think the origins of the joke is the Jargon File: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/R/recursion.html
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But they are opposed to increases in density. This article is a response to Nathan Robinson (a guy who goes around dressing like a plantation owner) writing an article that poor people should not have density because they deserve to live in picturesque SF Victorians too. (Which, if they're public and you give them out for free, excludes whoever doesn't get there first.)

The entire point of the left-NIMBY alliance is that the NIMBYs want everything to look like the 50s farmland it was when they were born, and they get this by pretending to be leftist and calling it "not affordable housing".
yeah can we not login with google
This wasn't team 1 vs team 2.

It was one team splitting half-way and taking everything from the other.
I would be interested in this as well but I believe that the omission was intentional. In cases like this, enumerating the precautions one is taking (and by extension the precautions one has rejected) would be unwise.
AGI = Artificial General Intelligence, watch this for the main idea around the goal alignment problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUjc1WuyPT8

They're explicitly not political, lesswrong is a website/community and rationality is about trying to think better by being aware of normal cognitive biases and correcting for them. Also trying to make better predictions and understand things better by applying Bayes' theorem when possible to account for new evidence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes%27_theorem (and being willing to change your mind when the evidence changes).

It's about trying to understand and accept what's true no matter what political tribe it could potentially align with. See: https://www.lesswrong.com/rationality

For more reading about AGI:

Books:

- Superintelligence (I find his writing style somewhat tedious, but this is one of the original sources for a lot of the ideas): https://www.amazon.com/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-...

- Human Compatible: https://www.amazon.com/Human-Compatible-Artificial-Intellige...

- Life 3.0, A lot of the same ideas, but the other extreme of writing style from superintelligence makes it more accessible: https://www.amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligenc...

Blog Posts:

- https://intelligence.org/2017/10/13/fire-alarm/

- https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/artificial-general-intelligenc...

- https://www.alexirpan.com/2020/08/18/ai-timelines.html

The reason the groups overlap a lot with AGI is that Eliezer Yudkowsky started less wrong and founded MIRI (the machine intelligence research institute). He's also formalized a lot of the thinking around the goal alignment problem and the existential risk of discovering how to create an AGI that can improve itself without first figuring out how to align it to human goals.

For an example of why this is hard: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4ARaTpNX62uaL86j6/the-hidden... and probably the most famous example is the paperclip maximizer: https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/paperclip-maximizer
Most people would expect an open postmortem on Twitter or at the news blog of the service, as this is normally what is done. Going through level 1 support or through any of the support channels is too much of a burden for customers, due to likelihood of this resulting on an unknown, not so fast, number of communication hops. Being a company with focus on privacy, is normal to expect them to be quick to give explanations and open by making it easy to get to postmortems
Nah, with VLAN tagging you can do it as a single legged router, or as a virtual switch if you’re running it all in a hypervisor.

My home network has 12 VLANs, but each VM cluster node only has 2 NICs
The unskilled labor market has monopsony power. This is effectively telling people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps.
I have never used neither kafka nor differential dataflow, but I would like to offer an personal anecdote as an illustration of an importance of a greater system:

I have once needed to set up webapp written in Python. I did this by running the code in WSGI instance, and it via nginx. Setting up all the activation files, locked-down permissions, secure sockets was pretty finicky to get right, and took non-trivial amount of time.
It would have been much easier to use Python's built-in web server and expose to internet directly. It has fewer moving parts and generally more predictable.

I still went with more complex solution -- because I needed logging, security and large file offload. And I used built-in web server for development.

There requirements of "production" system are pretty different than "development" one. Sometimes people are willing to install bigger (and therefore more fragile) system when they need more features.
More generally, a tower doesn't cause displacement because it's built up in the sky. Displacement is caused by taking up land, which single-family houses do the most of because they fit the least people on the most land.
>I'm curious if they use a throat mike or something bone conducting.

No, and no. Just good, old-fashioned microphones and speakers. If you're lucky, you have a set of "communication ear plugs" wired up to your helmet so the speakers in your earcups aren't trying to compete with engine noise and your ear plugs.
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I use a hetzner cx21 with two CPUs and two GB RAM. So far it is performant enough.
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> Tolerance for incitement to violence?

That's the thing which is illegal because it isn't speech. It isn't information, it's action. See above.

> Parler clearly does, which is their right.

No, they don't. It violates their policy and they removed all that was reported to them.
The harm to AWS is in "interfer[ing] with AWS’s ability to prevent its services from being used to promote—and, as the events of January 6, 2021 have demonstrated, even cause—violence."

I wouldn't call that a laughable claim...
Sure you can, and lots of people do.
> American politics have gotten pulled so far to the right, center is pretty right wing. Idk how you can deny that?

80+ million of us Americans voted in record numbers for the left leaning candidate, our biggest media platforms promote left leaning message, right wing individuals have been censored, etc.

Maybe not everybody in the United States is left leaning, but I wouldn’t call this a politically right leaning country.

Also, the only irony I see is that this thread continues. You already alluded I reply like a ring wing troll. Perhaps it’s better we both disengage as this is going nowhere.
Huh and what would've happened if they didnt get caught and this is what they do. THat's not the first time! Google and Anthony L. are one in the same two thieves in a pod! How one can not see that their actions are exactly same makes no sense.
>or Amazon in particular, are somehow state actors

They operate under the extremely valuable liability protection granted them in section 230 of the CDA.

If I were to take government funds to build my warehouse, there's a pretty decent case that it is at least a public forum, if not a park.
Well, Google will never succumb to this pressure from the Aussie government. If it did, that'd be used as a precedent all around the world.
> What right is being violated here? You as a user can run your own Elasticsearch software; I haven't modified it and thus I don't need to publish anything specific.

I as a user can no longer fix bugs in the Elasticsearch that I'm using. So I don't have the four freedoms that copyleft is all about protecting.

> What the SSPL says is I must publicize my entire SAAS product - but the user isn't paying me to run their own Elasticsearch SAAS product, they're paying me to run Elasticsearch.

That's like "I'm not blocking you from going into the building, I'm just blocking you from going through the gate outside". The point of copyleft licenses is that you need to give the user everything they need to run (or hire someone else to run) the same software (or their patched version of it) the same way.
It is more likely the guy in Nashville took out that particular location because it was being used as an NSA collection node. He was a nut, but he clearly didn't want to hurt anyone.
I decided it based upon reasoned perusal of available evidence, as any rational being must...

But were I undecided, your "Antifa Inc. Pvt. Ltd." would be unlikely to sway me, as it mocks the very idea that Antifa organizes in any cohesive fashion (when we can see on Twitter, Facebook, and other such avenues that they clearly do)
The irony here is that AWS offers licenses for some products but nothing for Elasticsearch.

However how AWS is doing this is ugly and my hope is it will make people stop using AWS managed services.
I thought of the Portuguese meaning, but also a Latin meaning (it's the Latin noun meaning "health").
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Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud.

Just to clarify, AWS has a feature called PrivateLink [1] that charges $.01/GB transferred between a Service provider and the end customer (I thought there was a free variant for same AZ, but I seem to be wrong about that).

We offer a similar feature called VPC Peering, and in particular Private Service Access [2]. Because we can be sure that the traffic is in the same Zone (or not), talking to a third-party service in the same Zone does not incur egress charges.

But did you mean this $.01/GB or were you thinking of VM <=> Internet / External IP pricing?

[1] https://aws.amazon.com/privatelink/

[2] https://cloud.google.com/vpc/docs/configure-private-services...
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