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This piece does a good job reminding me of the larger context for what I've been feeling the past few weeks. Communications freedom is basically my main political issue, but I've had a really hard time caring about The Purge. It seems basically inevitable after what occurred.

What is happening with Big Tech is the same arc as many other instances of American exploitation - an industry springs up around some type of obvious exploitation, but everybody speaking out about it is ignored because they're preaching against business expedience (eg the handful of HN users talking about centralized webapps being a bad idea for the past decade, outnumbered by those with get rich quick startup dreams). Finally the externalities grow too great to ignore and the industry finds itself in an untenable position (financially and socially). The innovative exploiters retreat, while those that bought into the system fight to preserve the status quo, creating a pleb-vs-pleb political issue while the initial exploiters have simply moved on to creating a new manner of exploitation. Even slavery fits this general pattern, and we're still suffering its resulting mess today.

One question I've been pondering is if polarization/propagandization (foreign or domestic) is even possible at the scale we're observing without these centralized watering holes? It's really big tech "social media" that offers this promise of unsophisticated users connecting with socially-distant low-reputation nyms as if they are other good-faith individuals (ie non-Sybil), essentially filling in the companies own reputation in their place. High fanout bad faith actors (political demagogues) will always exist, but it takes an impedance-matching middle layer creating social proof to enable them at such scale. It feels like that would be harder to pull off if people were only connected to closer nodes by default. Although this is probably a hypothetical question now that such structure has already been created.
How does Moore's law figure into this? I suspect that TSMC runs into the wall that is quantum physics at around 1-2nm. Considering that TSMC has said that they will be in full production of 3nm in 2022, I can't see 1nm being much beyond 2026-2028. What happens then? Does a stall in die shrinks allow other fabs to catch up?

It appears to me that Intel stalling at 14nm is what opened the door for TSMC and Samsung to catch up. Does the same thing happen in 2028 and allow China to finally catch up?
Not defending anyone here, just adding another (AWS) perspective:

https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/keeping-open-source-...
> Intel can become a fab company

Not unless they catch up with TSMC in process technology.

Otherwise, they become an uncompetitive foundry.
The days when Intel could single handedly successfully introduce a new (incompatible) ISA are long gone (if it ever could). I expect they will stick with x86 for as long as possible.
I am 20+ years on Apple products. This is not the way for me.
I cannot trust them anymore. If I have payed for my computer and the vendor is using it without my permission - there is no fix for this. What's next? Jailbreaking Mac OS? I don't care for Apple apologists or cultists, they have a right to choose. My choice is to move away from Apple products and replace everything that I can with Linux and FOSS.
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Hmm, what's the difference between the BSL and Elastic's license?
I think you're generally correct, but there are a few things worth noting:

- There's still a lot of frustration in the lower classes: people without college educations, living near the poverty line (either over or under)

- A person's sense of poverty is unfortunately relative. 100 years ago, people didn't necessarily have running water, or access to any medical care whatsoever.

- There seems to be a lot of frustration with the makeup of the popular culture, and a misguided belief that an election can fix this. (eg, "I hate those elites in Hollywood, we'd better elect someone they disapprove of!")
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> If 99% of the screen is blurred and the audio has been transcribed then how does the receiver know this is a real leak at all?

There is probably a way to eliminate the possibility of revealing the source without compromising any significant amount of fidelity.
This is typical Hacker News. Yes, some people "seriously optimize" but the vast majority of software written is not heavily optimized nor is it written at companies with good engineering culture.

Most code is worked on until it'll pass QA then thrown over the wall. For that majority of people, an M1 is definitely close enough to a graviton.
> I am ok with them making money off their project, but it isn’t like they are owed a billion dollar company for their work.

Because no other companies build on a foundation of open-source software today? I think that describes every company. Yes, the actual core product is the open-source software, not just components of it, but does that really matter?

I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make here.
Built like a tank.
Servos and closed loop systems are almost mandatory on large commercial mills due to the sheer scale and mass involved, but they’re not as mandatory on the hobby level.

In practice, hobby level machines don’t have near enough rigidity or spindle power to warrant high movement forces in the first place.

Nearly all of the hobby CNC machines on the market use open-loop steppers. They’re definitely not losing steps during normal operation.

The topic of steppers vs servos has been covered over and over on every hobby CNC forum for the past two decades. Closed loop systems are great if someone has extra budget to spare, but they’re unnecessary for machines using hobby-level spindle power.
Well, you try to make it sound unlikely, but it's exactly like corporate messaging that there are no plans for layoffs in the wake of bad financial news.

The idea that a license change made to prevent competition and enable a business model centered around extracting monopoly rents from customers has no effect on customers is ludicrous. It's whole point is to have an adverse effect on customers.
Yep, my dad was getting live stock quotes back in the 80's.
Given that aws just built DocumentDB, I am not sure if the licensing changing anything. I would even say that this choice actually hurts MongoDB because I am less likely to choose it since they have less practical hosting solutions.
Great post, thanks, had totally missed that, great that they are evaluating BSL as well, this should really get up there on the HN front page as well.
>> Yeah, right up until you're talked into electing a dictator.

> And now he's out.

Trump was never a dictator.

> bad policies, bad choices, and bad outcomes.

Got any examples?
Yes, it is a screw up. If something is in tolerance, it goes into the hole it was designed to go into, that's what a tolerance is. What I am describing is something that is out of tolerance for which corrective action needs to be taken to get it into tolerance. This is not an uncommon occurrence, it is the norm. There are times when you deliberately put in room for fine adjustment, but you don't do fine adjustment by bashing on things with a hammer (or if you do then you've made some other mistake).

In the case of the thing that needs to be retightened periodically, I'm referring to a case where a cost/benefit analysis would show that regular maintenance is more costly in the long run. Imagine a $1 Million dollar machine that is supposed to cost $50k per year to run over its lifetime of 10 years, but due to poor design winds up costing $100k per year to run. No one is going to pay an extra $1 Million to build a new machine to save $500k, but that's still $500k lost due to a screw up.

There isn't some secret army of engineers performing optimizations behind my back. Engineers design things to work, but we are fallible human beings who suffer confusion, exhaustion, distraction and at times just pure incompetence. Depending on the complexity of a system, we might have fellow engineers review our plans to look for issues we missed, but those reviewers too are fallible so things nevertheless get through.
"After all that happened, Now it makes sense for a country to have a grasp over the communication of its citizens."

Wow. Fear ushers in tyranny, for sure.
I agree that most jobs are not creative in the typical definition, which is why in think the distinction between creative and flow state is important.

I think it’s a mistake to focus on happiness because it’s a mind state and by definition transitory. With that said, I think you can cultivate happiness without checking all those boxes because we can affect our mind state by deliberately choosing our perspective. From that stance, almost any job can lead to happiness. I also think those other things you mention are the means to continuing on with a job when it’s not creating happiness. They can create the perspective to develop motivation when happiness is lacking. Maybe “fulfillment” is a better goalpost than “happiness”. “Happy” is the experience in the moment, “fulfillment” is the experience in reflection.
And Elastic was built on top of Lucene.

I slice it this way: as a company that is highly invested in AWS it is easier for us to deploy AWS ElasticSearch service than to use Elastic's cloud offering or set it up ourselves. But that doesn't mean I like it. Or are you talking about a different end user?
syncthing is the tool i use for that now
But what about going through a HIIT routine or keep rest low between sets to keep the heart rate high. IMO you cannot tell what your body is 'telling' you until you have pushed and 'suffered' to the point that you know when you body is truly hurt and when it is just feeling some resistance and telling you to stop that because it's too much effort.

I know plenty of people who I have tried to train and work with who would give up on the first bead of sweat.
> The source code is still open source, but you should pay for re-selling or providing hosting services around it. They have salaries to pay. Period.

That's not what Open Source is.

What's actually happening here is that people disagree with the goals of the FOSS movement, which is fine, but then instead of going out and joining any of the many other movements around software licensing that are better suited for them -- instead of releasing products as source available or shared source or noncommercial-reuse/creative-commons or just under any generally permissive license -- instead they act like this is our problem to solve.

The point of Open Source is not to share knowledge, it's to allow people to reuse/share code. There are other movements that are better equipped to solve your problems if your goal is primarily just to share knowledge. But we're not going to drop everything we've worked to build just to accommodate you.

Nobody is forcing you to be a part of this movement. Nobody is forcing you to release your software under MIT or GPL licenses. You can do whatever the heck you want with the software you build, just leave us alone and stop acting like it's our problem that our movement isn't accommodating your goals.
Yep, this happens with alot of open source. Either a big company maintains a project through paid engineers. OR some poor guy gets burnt out because everyone is demanding free changes to some OSS package constantly without providing PR/MRs.
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The probability of any given step being missed is proportional to the amount of value lost of the step is missed. Pretty weird how that works ;)
> typical hacker news

Let me have my fun!
Commercial Open-Source Software. Took me a very long time to figure out what that stood for.
> Could this potentially drive users to the Amazon fork?

Um, about that...

> When Amazon announced their Open Distro for Elasticsearch fork, they used code that we believe was copied by a third party from our commercial code and provided it as part of the Open Distro project. We believe this further divided our community and drove additional confusion.
It's kind of like the same feeling you get after you graduate college and work for a year. You realize your whole social scene and life has completely changed and you feel weird / depressed about the lack of face to face interaction and making new connections.

A friend's Dr told him he has never written so many anti-anxiety prescriptions in his career until covid started. People are experiencing the same enmasse.
For me economy is like a forest.

Trees (companies) compete for sunlight (purchases) and adverisements are their trunks.

They 'waste' enormous amount of energy on trunks not because longer trunks increase the amount of sunlight. They just lower the probability of being overshadowed by the others.

If somehow trees could agree on how high the trunk should be at most they could limit this waste.

Instead they literally grow trunks as long as the physical laws allow.

Instead of tons of in your face advertising everywhere you could have just one goverment manager directory of stuff and services. Where companies could register their products, services, pricing.

Of coure there would be law breakers and positive publications about brands paid for under the table but I think overt ban would lead to economy wasting much less money on advertising to outcompete itself.

I don't think such a drastic change will ever happen. Large percentage of our culture is created directly for the purposes of advertising. So advert free society would be different in so many ways. But I would bet it wouldn't be worse. And if it was, we could just lift the ban and see trunks grow back.
An aside: to say we should use technology build to better sound insulation is one thing, but first we have to build at all, which some American cities cannot even manage. This old 1920s-built 3 bedroom 1 bathroom unit I live in rents out at $3500/mo. Renovation is vastly cheaper than demolition/reconstruction (assuming such a thing could even be approved).
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> by just installing and maintaining that product as a service?

You are seriously underestimating the value Amazon provides by "just installing and maintaining" those services. Maintaining a service at the scale they offer is a huge undertaking.

You get the high-availability, the hundreds of engineers working to keep those services up and make them talk to other AWS services easily. You get teams of engineers on-call to react to any failures.

I agree with you that this has a bad effect on the companies that originally created those projects, but I do see a huge value in what Amazon offers.
State media must focus on content that is useful to the society, not what is popular. Otherwise, why do you even need the state interference?
Same. I haven't made a mistake on this issue for a long time despite switching languages with conventions frequently.

The only thing I will say is terrible is I believe julia had something you could do to make it a 0 indexed language just for you? That seemed like a terrible idea, haha. I have never seen anyone use it thankfully
"OSI certified" doesn't mean shit regardless in a legal manner. It's just toilet paper. Always have your own legal review by IP lawyers.
I think you’re approaching this discussion from a commercial/industrial scale.

Hobbyist CNC machines simply don’t have the same issues as large commercial-grade CNC mills. None of the popular hobby CNCs use closed loop motor control. Skipped steps are simply not an issue at this scale.
(as you might be able to tell) this is of great interest to me so if you have any reading recommendations I'd appreciate them (thanks).

some of the people (other than Scott) who influenced my thinking on this would be:

Berger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_L._Berger (especially http://perflensburg.se/Berger%20social-construction-of-reali...)

Jacques Ellul https://archive.org/details/JacquesEllulTheTechnologicalSoci... (also Propaganda)

and Nassim Taleb (e.g. his view on Switzerland) ...

also I'm admittedly thin on anthropological reading (still have Agner Fog's book on my list since ages: https://www.agner.org/cultsel/warlike_peaceful.pdf)
I make products that use that package. I want all the packages I depend on to be compatible with my license. I don’t want to run into an audit years from now during due diligence that I have some liability from an incompatible license.

I can’t afford lawyers to determine compatibility today. And I suspect that they would say “not compatible, pay to be safe.”

That’s the difference to me as a user.
Your options are "OSS ES that you can set up on your own for free" or "Closed source ES that you have to pay for". Not "Use AWS" and "Use Elastic".
Sorry, what is “EEE”? Brief search turns up a horse disease?
> Elastic could have released ES as closed source, but they didn't, and the OSS ecosystem is better for it.

A relevant question is "would they have been that successful if Elastic were 'just another closed source enterprise product'."

Elastic was successful because a lot of companies tried it out for free and then purchased licenses, or because hobbiysts used it on their personal project and then pushed for it at work.
can you describe the complete process you use to convert your documents?
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Yeah I've had a couple of managers try this. I always tell them my estimate is how long I think it will take take. But if he believes that estimate is incorrect he's welcome to modify it as he sees fit. (Over e-mail of course).

Sometimes they'll modify it, sometimes they won't but at least I won't have to argue about it or get in a situation later where suddenly they pretend like their estimate is my estimate.
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this post from a year ago: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/launching-open-distr...

sums up amazons stand pretty much, they talk about how they are suffering from "Elasticsearches bullying behavior" but in reality Elasticsearch were abusing Elasticsearch in their marketing ("partnering with ES.." lies), they created their own fork instead of offering back to upstream, they partnered up with a company that were stealing enterprise code from ES and selling it as their own product, i mean AWS does not have the privilige to express themselves as opensource evangelists.
"...given that the people most angry with the direction of society are disproportionately wealthy..."

Fairly sure that's not true. The insurrectionist hew from red states that are lagging the rest of the country hard. Less educated, under or unemployed, very little upward mobility, extreme feelings of powerlessness (hence the gun fetish to feel powerful) and truly are not really represented by anyone in government except their local officials and congressmen/senators. And they get disparaged by the coasts as dumb hicks. You'd be pretty chaffed if you were in their shoes, too. It doesn't excuse their behavior, but it explains it. If you want peace and a thriving nation, those people need their place, too.
I would think the number of developers that have “that exact hardware” on their bench is extremely small (does AWS even tell you what cpu you get?)

What fraction of products deployed to the cloud even has its developers seen doing _any_ microbenchmarking?
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I agree, a git repo would be a good place. Another option if you are just creating a blog is NeoCities [1]

[1] - https://neocities.org/
Good point, amps are a bit harder to get by than motors, but then again, there are plenty of them on offer. I only paid full price once for a set of servo amps and that was because I wanted to have a particular type for a very special set of motors (pancake servos).
Very cool, I've always wanted a tool like this that uses Vim macros. This doesn't quite meet that need but looks very useful nonetheless.
They don't produce richer text, they might write in a richer format, if you can all it that. Non-printing notes/comments were quite common in the DOS days, similar to the "front matter" in the screen shots, or what people would put in separate UI sections in tools like Scrivener or Ulysses (chapter notes, marginalia, cork boards etc.)

A more code-like (and probably extreme) perspective would be this screenshot from sci-fi author Vernor Vinge:

http://www.norwescon.org/archives/norwescon33/images/Vinge_s...

All kinds of annoations, references, etc – only the indented text is actual for publication.
>Elasticsearch B.V. owes you nothing.

And we owe them nothing. They have a right to relicense and we have right to complain about it.

If you have an argument then make it but trying to kill discussion is in bad form imho.
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It's still mind boggling to be that this isn't taken into account when deciding on the order of vaccine distribution. The incremental protection conferred to a recovered covid patient is far less than that conferred to someone who hasn't contracted the disease.
I'm not saying "just" as in "it's easy". I'm saying "just" as in "they can install and maintain but don't have to develop it too".
This is almost, but not quite, the "Tivoization" that prompted the creation of the GPL3.

The requirement to give something back and/or avoid taking profit from the work of others is something the OSS world has a complicated relationship to. GPL is quite clear that there's a requirement to pass on source changes, if not explicitly to give them back, and many people were outraged by even this limited requirement and instead chose licenses which imposed no requirements at all.

Similarly, people want their work to be used for free by everyone .. but haven't really considered that this results in them working for the Bezos fortune, for free. Or the US military, for free.

There aren't simple clear answers to these questions, only a slowly evolving discussion.
Very very interesting reads, thanks for sharing!
I wouldn't blame the West for the Arab spring though, that was an organic, local movement. NATO bears some blame for what's happening in Libya since they did side with the rebels (though I think if you want to calculate blame you should compare the current situation with what would have happened if NATO had not intervened, which still would have involved a lot of casualties). But Syria? The West's support of the rebel movements has been token at best, and actual military support has been devoted almost entirely to ISIS and ISIS-aligned fighters.
Why would they be shooting themselves in the foot? From their perspective, Elastic doesn't get anything out of your going with the AWS offering, and Amazon's behemoth-level resources allow it to outcompete Elastic's own hosted offering, as you found, while contributing nothing back to cover development costs of the software itself.
“reign in authoritarianism”?!?

It’s not dissimilar to a tax audit. Heaven forbid we could all be a little less hysterical.
Maybe microsoft and google would like to pitch in some legal support
Yes, I read this article several years ago. Why is it reposted with a recent date?

Anyway, besides all the BS the author wrote, I didn't see the business model. What was the basic - dumb business model?

So you find which is the best painkiller. So what? How do you charge users for this? This is one-time info. Once we all agree which is the best, why would anyone pay you for this?

And why the fuck did you draw diagrams on your parents' windows? Have you watched the facebook movie too many times?