skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
My own personal speculation:

The timeline of events almost feels like Google, Apple, and Amazon took those steps as part of a means to convince Twitter to commit to a ban.

Without Parler, Twitter is able to stem any right-wing exodus due to a Trump ban.
Isn't this only an issue on sites that allow custom css? There aren't many of these sites around (the only one I know of is reddit). In most cases if you're in a position to tamper with the css you can also tamper with the js directly.
> toxic individuals

Are you perhaps referring to Bill Clinton, who pardoned Susan Rosenberg, a convicted terrorist that set off a bomb in US federal buildings and committed armed robberies?
During and after, but mostly after.

During: President begins speech at approximately noon. Some protestors already amassed at Capitol. During speech, crowd begins moving away from the speech location, gather at the Capitol building, and breach outer perimeter “bike fence”.

After: The President’s speech ends at approximately 1:10pm. Crowd is still outside the Capitol doors. Congress begins certifying the vote. Protestors clash with police, both sides spraying chemical irritants.

Protesters continue to gather in numbers, surrounding the Capitol building until breaching the exterior doors at approximately 2:10pm.

Other than the planting of pipe bombs at the Capitol/RNC/DNC (which I haven’t seen reporting on the timing), all significant violence took place shortly after the President’s speech ended.
I don't know if it's actively maintained anymore because it's been a while since I played, but there was a mod for Arma 2 that simulated real radio physics and depended on Teamspeak.
> Why should Silicon Valley play the roll of unelected police-state.

Since when is a corporation deciding not to do business with someone equivalent to throwing them in prison?
There's a Slack plugin for time-limited channels from Postlight https://dashforslack.com/
HN has always had horrible UX and no desire to fix it. This tracks and does not excuse the original site at all.
Hibernate, so I don't need to spend time re-opening my IDE

If I'm in the middle of a larger task, add a failing unit test with a few thoughts about what I need to do next

If I've come to the end of a block of work, ensure that the top of my TODO list has an actionable, and quick item to start off with before I stop.
They aren't deciding what free speech is acceptable, they're deciding what free speech is acceptable on their private platforms.

People are pretending like the platforms that deplatformed the group inciting violence are the only platforms on the internet that they could have used, they're not - they're not monopolies in regards to that. They are however the most convenient platforms to use because of various reasons, however we're not talking about having a right to convenience - we're talking about having the right to free speech, which everyone still does in America and on the internet.

Some advice: if you're going to have a mob boss and wannabe tyrant like Trump and rally your followers on a platform, I'd recommend using, depending on, technology layers of owners who are aligned with you and okay with inciting of violence; Trump goes on Fox News to say whatever the fuck he wants to millions of people while saying he's being prevented from free speech - come on now people, let's come back to reality and stop getting sucked into the gaslighting.
Actually, it’s not in Sweden either. I thought it was, but it’s apparently not.

There are other laws that prevent business owners from denying people entry or removing somebody from their store or similar (see Supreme Court decision NJA 1995 s. 84). They can’t even prevent people who have historically stolen from them from coming in and spending time in the store. But apparently they don’t have to do business with them. I thought they did.
That’s pretty much the case for all American food. Tomatoes, strawberries, cucumbers, and every single fruit and vegetable I buy here pales in comparison to what I ate as a child. Once in a while I’ll get a blueberry that tastes close to the real thing and it just serves as a reminder.
For those who don't know how to use a rotary dial phone, here is a 1940 educational movie by Bell Telephone they made to teach customers about this new technology [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p45T7U5oi9Q
But in your grocery store example, if the stores rules are “customers need to wear a mask, wear shoes, wear a shirt,” and I refuse to do those things, or I strip naked inside the store, or cause a commotion and start screaming epithets at other customers, that store is more than welcome to ban me from entering again. Now, if it is literally the only store in existence, that’s a more complicated question, but me being inconvenienced by having to go to a store further away as a consequence of not following a place of businesses rules is fair game.

What a store can’t do (at least in the US), is say, “we won’t let you shop here because your skin color is this, or you’re from this part of town, or you practice this religion, or are this sexual orientation.” Now, if a person who matches one of those descriptions and chooses to violate rules and screams at people in the middle of the store, they can be denied service for that reason, just not on the basis of their race or religion, etc.

Parler violated AWS’s terms of service. I’m not going to be obtuse pretend that the type of political ideology that Parler actively seeks out/evangelizes/caters to, doesn’t make them a target, of course it does. That doesn’t negate the fact that the TOS was violated and there was no real plan of action from excising content that violated Amazon’s TOS from the platform. (Although I want to be clear, getting a bunch of conservative celebrities and Fox News hosts on your platform as a way to try to buy respectability doesn’t mean that the rhetoric extolled by Parler CEO and championed by the service is mainstream or even mainstream conservative. Parler was/is a place that was not about free speech but about pro-Trump speech; dissenters were banned from the service, which is Parler’s right, but it was hardly a “free speech” platform.)

Again, I’m not arguing Parler doesn’t have the right to exist. But I am arguing that AWS shouldn’t be obligated to host it. I’m also arguing that as big as AWS and the other clouds are, they are not yet at the point of being true pieces of immovable infrastructure. And honestly, I hope they never are. Even those of us who don’t shed any tears for Parler, probably agree that we don’t want to live in a world where the only options for hosting a website or app belong to a FAANG.

If it were an issue of an ISP or a backhaul provider denying access to the service, I would be the very first person criticizing and standing up to the action. But that’s not what happened here. Someone came into a store without shoes, without a shirt, without a mask, screaming in the face of the employees and other customers. They aren’t allowed to shop at that store anymore. But a store that might be a little further away is still an option.
Generally agreed. Another distinct possibility being that there's a legal / national security interest, no longer subject to Trump's obstruction, compelling action.

Greenwald is way out over his skis, with ample invective but thin ecidence.

And yes, some bit definitely seems to have flipped. Use ECC RAM and validate your hashes, peeps.
You might be talking about the way the CIA reused code to communicate with sources in Iran in its China operations? Then got a ton of people killed by being stupid/lazy - despite internal whistleblowers going to Congress to warn them it was dangerous?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/11/03/dozens-us-...

Something similar happened in Lebanon IIRC. Lazy reuse of tradecraft - a pizzeria and some mobiles I think it was.
> how is that just a unusually deadly seasonal flu

A smaller percentage of a very large number is still a very large number.

In March / April, people were claiming something on the order of a >10% fatality rate. We are much closer to 1%, and it drops off down to practically nothing once you get to anyone below middle-age.
> no it is not. Saying “covid is a hoax” should be protected by free speech because it is an expression of (stupidly false) opinion.

But I shouldn't be obligated to let someone put a sign saying that on my lawn, nor should I be obligated to remain friends with someone who is pushing that lie.

Most of the people who are complaining about free speech being limited are really arguing for things like the above.
Given the drastic differences in their stomachs I doubt this would work on cattle but it would be interesting to try. Add a few ounces of seaweed to their daily diet and see if greenhouse gasses emitted is reduced.
are you even reading yourself right?

>and to redistribute copies with or without changes.

you are saying free to redistribute copies with or without change but you are saying connecting to official server is bad for brand. what happened to copies without change? how can you justify that? arent you restricting that line?

if moxie is so worried about the sugarflake brand, why does it not copyright the brand name? shouldnt that solve their problems? why pretend open source when its not
Additionally in many locations (California), if that conversation is plausibly private (in person, in a hallway that isn't super busy or not in a cafe), it's illegal (albeit not perfectly) for it to be anything but ephemeral.

People can of course reproduce what they think you said in another form, but that is always open for debate and challengeable. For better or worse.
> If you're promoting armed, violent protests and insurrection - that is also a crime.

You are conflating Parler with it's users

> this is happening to a small degree on Twitter and FB - but they make some attempts to stop it

From the article:

> And contrary to what many have been led to believe, Parler’s Terms of Service includes a ban on explicit advocacy of violence, and they employ a team of paid, trained moderators who delete such postings. Those deletions do not happen perfectly or instantaneously — which is why one can find postings that violate those rules — but the same is true of every major Silicon Valley platform.
>I think the answer is pretty simple: restore neutrality and objectivity to epistemological institutions. This doesn't mean that empirically false right-wing viewpoints need to be presented on equal footing with empirically true left-wing viewpoints, but rather that subjective issues should be described objectively rather than in the left-wing narrative.

How does this actually work in practice? What does this look like in terms of the coverage of climate change?

>Similarly, when popular left-wing mistruths arise, these institutions should call them out as they would right-wing mistruths, however infrequently this may happen. In a word, "honesty".

This already happens. Look at the NYT repealing of the Caliphate stories. How often do we get a retraction as big and public as that from the right?

>Conservatives (like everyone) need to specifically believe there is a path forward for their legitimate viewpoints, rather than the current system which more-or-less equally discredits legitimate and illegitimate conservative viewpoints. In addition to restoring objectivity and neutrality to epistemological institutions, we could also actively encourage more conservatives to participate in these institutions (and of course, treat them fairly and respectfully as they accept the invitation) to reverse decades of driving them out of these institutions. Yes, this is basically affirmative action for conservatives, and I appreciate the irony.

I will repeat my question from my last comment. Is there an example of this actually working? Is there an example of an institution that has lost the right's trust that was able to get it back through catering to their viewpoints while also remaining loyal to the truth? I am genuinely asking and not trying to be a jerk by just presenting rhetorical questions.
> With all the CVEs we see every month due to what can be only called design flaws in C, I have a hard time saying that C did fine for last 30 years.

We can argue endlessly about which metrics of success are most important.

Zig looks cool. I've seen it mentioned a few times over the years. Looks like manual memory management is the default, yeah? That's important IMO if you're really trying to replace C. Rust is great but I just can't iterate fast enough (yet). Does Zig offer an optional GC?

EDIT: Also I never said Go is a good C replacement. But I'm finding it useful for some of those tasks and suspect it will be less useful for them down the road.
As the right flirts with nazism, the left flirts with communism. I dont think its particularly surprising and doesnt require deeper meta-analysis as youre trying to propose.
Someone that thinks a newspaper is making up a tweet can handle the couple minutes of effort to find it somewhere else.

It's no more effort than looking up something in a speech or a press conference.
Big fan of frameworks like this. AdonisJS is similar in this space: https://preview.adonisjs.com/
If you think that real research isn't dependent on funding, then I really don't know what to tell you.
UK science advisers: publish evidence behind Covid vaccine changes
So you're saying you'd rather lose all the productivity benefits of a solution that's not instant messaging than use Outlook? Powerful stance!
Maybe they are also short staffed due to Covid?
Email isn't searchable by people who weren't on the threads. In an org that uses IM well (they exist!) the chat system actually becomes sort of like a wiki, except a lot more helpful.
Something can be important without it being politically important.

COVID was very politically important when we were choosing a president. Now the gameplan seems more or less settled.
> The real answer is: just fucking use email.

I know of at least one large company that forcibly deletes emails older than N months, as part of their legal retention policy. (I'm assuming it means non-retention to limit exposure to lawsuits.)

That would be problematic for persistent documentation.
Most people would rather live with a bad battery than do a replacement. And the battery issue is long after sales and warranty has expired.
How to Eliminate Organizational Debt (2016)
seriously, fuck greenwald. he's an idiot

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1190700971233619968
> I'm not sure what you even mean about public health official greenlighting protests.

I don't think we'll see eye to eye on this topic if you think public health authorities had similar stances on earlier protests and BLM protests.

> https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27408/w274...

Interesting. If corroborated, it indicates that as much as cases rose among protest participants, the non-participant population strongly decreased their willingness to engage in other, non-protest activities. Though presumably that would also apply to the non-BLM protests, which raises the question of why public health authorities said that the non-BLM protests would raise COVID rates among participants without also noting that they would decrease COVID rates among non-participants.

> That appears to be an argument about saving lives versus returning to normal.

Not really:

> Harald Schmidt, an expert in ethics and health policy at the University of Pennsylvania, said that it is reasonable to put essential workers ahead of older adults, given their risks and that they are disproportionately minorities. “Older populations are whiter, ” Schmidt said. “Society is structured in a way that enables them to live longer. Instead of giving additional health benefits to those who already had more of them, we can start to level the playing field a bit.”
It sounds like the author was mostly thinking about INTERNAL discussion, but I think the real tragedy is in using chat like Slack for your public customer community forum.

Think of all the knowledge and employee-time locked away in the scrollback of a chat based community forum.

Better to have chat for informal community discussion, but when someone asks a question that others in your community might find useful in the future, politely direct them to post it in a more permanent (read: accessible via google search) medium.
I agree with the concern author is expressing. Usually, we do not start conversations leading to a decision/important, but it evolves into useful discussion. Onus is on us to move that convo/thread to GitHub issue & socialize it there. May be that is what author is hinting.
It's not like on pthread where we have a trhead handler, that will complicate many things.

Like you said, We stop the go routine by telling it to exit the function, it's quite straightforward I think. Not more than a channel and switch case (+ context)
But you know that people only think about the narrative. If its BLM everything goes. If its the other side, its evil, has to be stopped. And the best thing is that they are completely oblivious to their double standards.
Maybe I am one of those "old people" but I don't understand how discord is better than more traditional forums or mailing lists for technical discussions. With a mailing list, forum thread, or GitHub issue, I can search and find something relevant to me from years ago. By contrast, discord seems so ephemeral: I have to hope I can be in the same place at the same time as the person who has the information I need. And it's a closed platform, so it's not searchable or indexable the same way as content on the open web. And if discord closes their doors, or changes their TOS in the wrong direction some day it might all just be gone from one day to another. I would be happy to understand why you think chat is a better tool for the job.
I asked for evidence. What was provided was insanely weak.

Again, put up some evidence that is equal to the charge: show us violent rhetoric.
It's very hard to make strategic decisions on CentOS replacements that don't actually exist. Looking at the Rocky forums, there's far more energy complaining about the name than seemingly in assisting any release.
Is it really that bad?

I'm just a dumb machine operator that uses Outlook at work, Fastmail for myself, and Gmail because I'm an idiot too, and really can't tell the difference.
> That's too much power with one person.

Well, the USA could impeach and remove that person, or they could reduce the power of his office. But so far the people and their elected representatives have opted not to do either of those things.
I don't really understand this. But no, not rich snobbish. Just francophone snobbish.
Very cool, looks like it only works with Node.js and possibly React. I've a huge fan of Hasura which just sits in front of Postgres and presents GraphQL queries (and is easily deployable as a container).
Especially since the timing strongly suggest they are just changing whom they sycophant for, following the change of power, and we might very we'll be in a position of not liking whom goes to power next; assuming these company allegiance is to the just side and not to the side with power is quite naive and the questioning of their role in society legitimate.
The speculated anticompetitive behavior wouldn't be described as monopolistic, it'd be horizontal conduct. Tsk tsk, Greenwald.
I don't think the point was that they didn't matter, but structurally, it is 2 errors repeated 70 times as opposed to 140 distinct errors- might even just be one if they are lumped together as "post label" rather than "name" and "time".
Not American per se, but free speech has limits. People breaking the law should be prosecuted in courts.
I'm a member of several squad gaming communities on discord. We always do our briefings in teamspeak for the better audio codecs and features for ducking and crowd control.
Would the highway not be better equated to the internet itself?

With AWS, Google Play store, iOS store as toll roads (Pennsylvania Turnpike, Golden Gate Bridge etc...) and Parler, Facebook, HN etc... as car brands?

Manufacturers can be forced to take all of their cars off the road for repair. Take Toyota or Waze.

You might have an argument about iOS taking Parler off the store as an issue because you can't sideload, but you can directly install APKs onto Android. You can self-host Parler with physical servers. I guess I'm less bothered by this than a lot of folks cause one of my rules is basically "Be nice around other people's things and ask before you touch". AWS and the Android + iOS stores are other people's things. And Parler poked at a sore spot: being used to plan attacks
I've been living in Vietnam for almost a year, and there is a crazy amount of superstitions here. Some of them are eastern Asian, and some were proudly invented here.

- Number 4 is an unlucky number. 6 and 8 are lucky numbers. In fact, most wifi passwords here are 66668888 or 88888888.

- Don't stick the chopsticks in rice in the middle.

- Don't flip the fish as it mimics the fisherman's boat flipping.

- Burn a ton of stuff to help the diseased at Tet holiday.

- Don't boil the same water more than once.
Ask HN: The world has trusted Google with their data. Is this now rational?
I'm not concerned about the competency of Google employees. I'd like to think the people in charge of the security aspects are best in class, and that the developers in general have a relatively high class of security awareness.

The threat model I'm concerned about now is the politically motivated insider.
Thanks. I'll take a look around for one. Sadly they did remove or disable the coin handling circuitry so it's just a funny analog phone now. I really should try to crack it open and see what's inside.
Is there an easy way to have people donate "to" my project where the money goes straight to my chosen charity but I still get some sort of notification / running total of how much has been donated? I think I'd like to know people were donating - I could ask they tell me but I'd never know if they didn't bother emailing or if nobody thought it worth donating - but I don't want any of the (tax) hassle that might come from personally receiving a donation, even if I always remembered to re-donate it on.
But aren't these both pretty terrible tools or storing information?

Slack is an attempt at legitimizing and organizing stream-of-consciousness. It has short feedback loops and therefore cannot communicate deep research, novel concepts, nor well-cited evidence.

This is the wrong way to bring the tools of the consumer to the enterprise. Nobody asked for this chat tool - Slack is something sold to somebody who doesn't want to worry about something, not somebody who wants to do something well with low attrition.
Sites like Upwork (https://www.upwork.com) will let you define a job just as big or small as you like
Parler, a Chosen App of Trump Fans, Became a Test of Free Speech
i used to come to HN precisely to avoid this sort of stuff, that anyone can read in a newspaper. jews vs nazis at github? really? is this gratifying your intellectual curiosity???
We got to the latter because of years and years of the former.

"You're allowed to talk people into believing that they need to violently rebel, but you're not allowed to actually do the rebelling" is not a particularly reasonable position.
How Silicon Valley, fearing prosecution under 18 U.S. Code § 2383, dropped Parler like radioactive waste.