skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think a lot of people have been using HN for political battle since January 6th, but I stand by my comment history, and I think that I more than earn an ongoing voice in the HN community with my contributions each week.

I don't think it's fair to say I have been using "HN primarily for political battle". When I do post on political threads, I try to do so with reasonable counter-points, logical debate, and appeal to avoid hyperbole and flame wars. I am certainly not perfect, but that is my aim. I'll try to do better.

Over the last 2 weeks I've posted 48 threads, 30 of which were non-political. Some of the highlights;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25684154 (+128)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25585764 (+31)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25697136 (+30)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25589742 (+6 posted late, underrated)

Of my rare political post, which of course have been +3 sigma more frequent since the 6th, here are some that I fully stand behind;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25695844 (+21)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25688330 (+10)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25691821 (+9)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711604 (+4)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25711572 (+1, was in fact disinformation)

And in full disclosure, some that were less substantive;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25677651 (+3)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25680846 (+1)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25710688 (-2)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25693504 (-4)

I'm not sure if you took issue with this particular post, which is currently (+12) and a totally fair point to question an incorrect factual claim by throw_m239339, who by the way I usually agree with.

EDIT: I see that you posted a ton of these warnings throughout the site on many profiles, which helps me feel less singled out. Again, I'll try to do better. You have an impossible task the last 6 days.
> On the other hand, do we really want a handful of unelected billionaires deciding what is acceptable speech

Yes? I mean, look where you're posting. HN is very heavily moderated. Check out dang's post history for all the work he has to do. HN has very clear ideas on what speech is "acceptable" and what is not, and they are significantly more complicated than the "don't incite political violence" standard being enforced against Parler.

I mean, really. Parler failed to clear even the simplest, most straightforward, most consensus- and norm-driven ideals of how public discourse is supposed to work. And they didn't really get "moderated" any harder than any of us would have.

Yet we still have to rally behind them as the standard-bearer for megacorp censorship? Really? Can't we wait for at least a tiny bit of evidence that they're misusing their power first?
I helped set these up as a workaround for a system that's main audit logging mechanism had gaps for data being deleted from a few important tables.
Republics don't fall internally because their 'armies are defeated'.

These are 'coups' and they mean to overthrow the legitimacy of the government. It happens all the time in other countries.

This was a 'coup by mob' with obvious incitement (but not technically direct) by Trump & Co.

"The election is illegitimate"

"Mike Pence must stop the count"

"Everyone come to Washington and we will protest the count"

"Walk with me down Pennsylvania avenue"

"This is political combat, we need to fight and never give up"

There are parallels to BLM, but the fundamental difference is the violent mob wanted to stop Pence from validating the election results, which is a very scary existential form of interference going right to the core of the Republic.

There are legal consequences to this: if Pence does not validate the vote, then in fundamentally calls into question the legitimacy of Biden.

If that transaction doesn't take place, then 'Who is President' in a few weeks is completely ambiguous.

How would SCOTUS rule?

And does it matter?

Trump is playing straight out of the '3rd World Despot Playbook' - this is pretty much how it goes down in the Congo.

This insurrection would have physically been deal with, surely, but it could very easily snowball into something much worse.

Revolutions to start with a starting gun, they build up to a crescendo, one event propagating to the next.

Consider this: during the insurrection, Trump was not calling for people to stand down, he was not coordinating with Pence, he was not calling in the National Guard - you know what he was doing? He was on the phone with members of Congress who were on lockdown the phone being passed among them while he pressured them to 'stop the steal' and to thwart Mike Pence's vote count.

If that isn't straight up Treason what is?

What happened on Capitol Hill was not dangerous for the momentary bit of violence, it was dangerous because it's a strike to the essential foundations of the Republic.

Finally - I don't know what the RNC had to do with any of this, which is why I asked.
What's your point, that they apply TOS inconsistently? I don't think anyone will disagree with that assessment. They let Trump violate the TOS for 4 years.

They are perfectly within their rights as a private business to make those exceptions. Is it fair? No. Would we much rather they apply things consistently? Yes.

The question is, do we want to enforce who and what they can and cannot allow on their platform via law, or do we want private businesses to control who they are allowed to do business with?
Mill may be the most passionate philosopher to defend this maximalist interpretation of free speech, but he is hopelessly out of date. Mill was a proponent of the 'marketplace of ideas' delusion that has been shown over the past few decades to be an illusion; Mill seems to think that knowledge, and only knowledge, emerges from arguments between dedicated opponents. These quaint bon mots from twee English gentlemen of the Victorian period are about as relevant to modern life as are their opinions about medicine, hygiene, education, and the role of women. Interesting as a historical artifact but not for much more.
Jesus - does everyone on this site live in a bunker using only candle light? Tip: you're insignificant and nobody at Amazon (or any company, for that matter) cares enough to spy on you.
Parler wasn't a hate site. You're parroting far left propaganda.
The reason is obvious: the US is enacting barriers to the internal market. But Huawei is developing all kinds of technology around the world.
Yes, not reporting that information would also be non-neutral.

You could have very bland neutral reporting by omitting information that offends both sides (as long as you do so in a ratio that is roughly equivalent to how it occurs in the firehose), and you could have extremely provocative neutral by similarly highlighting that information.

There will be times when one side's opinions are more in conflict with facts of current events than the other, so you probably won't be pissing off both sides equally (this is why my original comment was pondering that, in the current environment, a neutral source could not remain trusted), but if you truly act as a service to that strives to fairly convert the "firehose" to a "drinking fountain" then that's what people (or I at least) mean when saying "neutral source."
Don't talk about it at work. Create a user handle and use that for your project. On About Us, make it generic. If needed to bill, setup LLC, you should be doing that anyways. Or while you have a job, keep freeium model or use ads.

Once idea is validate and ready to quit, put project on sale at flipp or any othet site. And then buy it using your real name. Yes, it will cost you some money.
For anyone who's interested, Iddan from the founding team recently gave a demo of Amplication on our "What's new in Prisma" livestream. You can watch it here: https://youtu.be/wQo_Ii_IjXA?t=4279

Really love the work they're doing, definitely check them out!
Postgraphile is a great tool. The main difference is that we generate code that you can use any way you like and deploy anywhere you want.
If you are a Node.js developer you get a boost that helps you focus on your business logic without giving up on the flexibility of code.
Also, on our roadmap, we want to provide developers with a full set of features to make development easier, e.g. integration, connecting to different DBs, and much more.
The crazy thing is that the Q-Anon people will inevitably see the spate of arrests and censorship as "The Storm" prophecy coming true but in reverse, an "Anti-Storm". I have a feeling this will only make many of them even more committed and possibly now that they can point to something real, could even grow the movement. Crazy stuff.
I think there are a lot of things that can be referred to as options to avoid your ISP from dropping you. But when your service is spending over $100k a month on an AWS bill like Parler claims to have been you are scaled up enough to need a lot of power, bandwidth, and storage to recreate that infrastructure. There are a lot of P2P and blockchain decentralized (or mostly) people could try to use. But the main issue with them is how tech savvy need to be to even access them. Most of the things in this example list require deeper understanding than most Parler users probably have.

https://github.com/gdamdam/awesome-decentralized-web

Even something as simple as DNS can be blocked or altered by the registrar or provider(s). So you need to have a top down solution to all the various potentialities.
> I feel like we've all been a bit brainwashed by the government in our notion that "free speech" must have limits. I very much doubt that that is true.

Then why are you posting that on a heavily-moderated discussion forum and not 8kun?
Ducks eat bugs and poop fertilizer, it's a win-win.
> We should have trials to get to the truth

You're still being cryptic about this. I'll ask you again what the basis of these trials should be? who and what should we be investigating?

I'm aware of a few trials that have already happened, my favourites:

Paul Manafort, former campaign chairman of the Trump campaign sentenced to 7.5 years in prison[1]. Collusion with suspected Russian operatives, lying about that collusion. Sentenced separately in Virginia for ~4 years for bank fraud, tax fraud, and hiding foreign accounts[2].

Michael Cohen, former personal attorney to Donald Trump sentenced to 3 years in prison. "charges involving campaign finance violations, tax evasion and lying to Congress"[3].

A fun list of the rest of the swamp dwellers that have been charged or convicted[4].

> If we assume the worst about people because they were born into a wealthy family where does that leave us?

We aren't assuming the worst about people born into a wealthy family. We're asserting that they cannot relate to those born into a lower or middle class family.

> You don't believe the swamp could be that corrupt. I do. Is it ok for me to hold that opinion? Is it ok for me to speak it, or will I be silenced for wrong think?

You're intentionally ignoring the fact that the man who told you there was a swamp is entirely surrounded by people found guilty of some form of fraud or corruption...

[1] https://www.axios.com/paul-manafort-sentenced-years-prison-r...

[2] https://www.axios.com/paul-manafort-sentenced-prison-mueller...

[3] https://www.axios.com/michael-cohen-prison-sentence-mueller-...

[4] https://www.yourtango.com/2020336767/trump-associates-have-b...
>The main problem with projects like these is that I don't know (without manually checking myself) whether they are actually tracking the Signal source code effectively.

That's my main complaint with Signal - lots of widgets. More code to audit and keep an eye on.

More users is good, but stickers and stuff.. meh.

Maybe teach zoomers how to use emoticons ;-)
> the unmuted state is only during the bootup process during which there's no processing or recording of audio going on anyway

Is there any reason to believe that there's no processing or recording going on?
God forbid anyone wants to discuss anything "that the larger social networks stifle, and categorize as hate speech". Anyone that expresses such a desire is guilty of hate speech and must be silenced.
The group says it now has more than 700 dues-paying members.

Dues are 1% of total compensation [0]. With 700 members, that’s already 7 whole Google salary and bonus packages. No small chunk of change. I hope the union will be transparent with their spending.

[0] https://alphabetworkersunion.org/power/faq/
Thanks for putting this together. Most of the commands are new to me.

exa -DT

produces a directories-only tree structure. Very helpful.
>"Obviously all of the insidious planning and hatred that presumably occurred on Parler is abhorrent. I think I can hate all of those things without believing that the site should be censored."

I have yet to see any evidence that the capitol protest was planned primarily on Parler. I have seen plenty of evidence that it was planned primarily on Facebook (that has since been deleted/hidden by Facebook). You'd think if the goal was to punish or curtail such events Facebook would be getting at least similar treatment as Parler.
I hear a lot of chanting but no threats of any kind
When it comes to issues like these I tend to agree with the sentiment of "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

But this isn't about criminalising speech promoting conspiracy theories, radicalisation, and racism. It's about private entities withdrawing the infrastructure of speech, which obviously gets a lot more complicated to reason about and legislate.

I'm mostly okay with Apple and Google removing the app from their stores. I'm slightly less okay with Amazon withdrawing their services. But if Parler ends up reborn on a server running out of someones house or business I would be very much against their utility providers cutting off access.

So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm with you and don't quite know what to think about this either.

However I do worry that if we're not careful as a society someone posting on HN (or maybe a government approved Facebook group) will eventually say:

>The internet was a hate site, filled with conspiracy theories, radicalization and racism. So it's no loss that it's gone, and it took far too long to deal with it.
Built on top of immature overhyped tech (nestjs, prisma, etc...) with lots of issues. Something very common in the JS/NPM that always gives you headaches down the road. There's an arms race to sell hosting through immature buggy magical frameworks in the JS world, so this is to be expected.

I'll take the one/two days to set up node, express, postgres with libs for now. What takes up the majority of the time is domain modeling anyway.
Congrats and thanks! you inspired me to add a ko-fi dontaion link to my github project https://github.com/naikus/svg-gauge
You're moving the goalposts.

The transition from a situation in which public officials can speak to the public directly to one in which they can only do so at the whim of corporate titans is not a safe precedent.
In the US, imported Ford Transit vans go through customs, and then the rear seats, seat belts, and windows are torn out. All to avoid a tarriff instituted by Johnson in the 60s to retaliate against Europe for instilling tarriffs to avoid the US dumping cheap chickens on them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-strange-...
> unbundling

and re-bundling:

https://acrowdedspace.com/post/166470695392/the-re-bundling-...
> A phonebook is a single list compiled by one organization.

There are mutiple phonebooks worldwide, each compiled by different organizations. There is just not one phonebook, similar to how there is not just one DNS-server.
They gave 98 examples, and Parlor refused to moderate those examples even when they were specifically pointed out by Amazon.

It's not that they could only find those examples.

And among those examples were specific calls to bomb AWS data centers.
This is one fallacy I saw over and over and over again back in November. Taking 10 counties in Pennsylvania and saying "Doesn't that look suspicious to you??"

It's all meaningless junk stats without a random sample of other counties around the country and from the last few elections for comparison.
Sorry I don’t know any good vendors but I do see an i7 with the rarer IPS 1920p display on eBay for 500 bucks and I’m sure other marketplaces have more than a few.
Indeed. It's impossible to stop the spread of disinformation completely, no matter what we do. Instead, what we need, is better education on how to parse and digest information we receive from others. To stop taking everything we hear as automatic truth and instead consider all opinions, even if they sounds wrong at first. We need another Age of Reason instead of what we're executing on now.
Generate image from BioNTech mRNA sequence
We still manage an old vmware install where Flash or a Windows client is required. I guess we're down to using the Windows client now.

Yes, it should absolutely have been upgraded, but some client are a little slow to make a decision.
> Vinod poses with a bunch of banana varieties.

Just look at the pride in that man. Way to go, Mr. Nair! You brought your dream to life.
It feels like they are just legalizing what they already are doing. I've been seeing ads on Facebook because of WhatsApp conversations.
Back when I still had a landline I used to "impress" people with my ability to call their cell phone using only the hook switch on my desk phone.

I'm pretty sure I was made aware of this trick from the 1995 Hackers movie, so there is at least one accurate thing in that movie.
I think it is the reverse. If a baker can't be forced to bake a rainbow cake (for members of a protected class) then AWS most certainly cannot be forced to provide service to people espousing violent political action (not a protected class.)
Whenever I hear these comments I wonder what the recommendation is to shrink the movement. Obviously open conversations did not stop the movement from growing.
> that larger social networks stifle, and categorize as hate speech?

Let me fix that:

> that multiple countries and international organizations categorize as hate speech?

A casual reminder that when most think these open air rules are intended to stifle conversation it is generally for very clear legal and moral reasons. If you believe this is used by them to control people then you should also believe that a replacement should view this speech as antithetical to the existence of the free speech social company.

It's one thing to ban talk about the platform you are talking on.

It's not the same thing to ban intolerant behavior.

It all leads back to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
For bigger groups it is actually quite good.
Its also a more lightweight experience as opposed to Discord with all the chat ect. functionality.
And I have found it to be more ressourceful than Discord.

That being said nowadays I use Discord 95% of the time.
Parler was providing material support to terrorists. Not cutting off Parler would also be providing material support to terrorists.

This Administration publicly announced a policy of maximum prosecution of offenses connected in any way to domestic civil unrest, in general (now, at the top this was obviously, though not on its face, politically targeted at their opponents, but the career prosecutors called on to execute the policy are perhaps less likely to apply it narrowly in that way), and, in specific, both the D.C. AG and the US Attorney for the District of Columbia have separately indicated that they will be actively pursuing all connections out from the attack on the Capitol, including incitement, in the DC AG’s case explictly including that which may have been committed by the sitting President’s inner circle, and, though charges would need to be held until after he leaves office, the President himself.

There's a reason people are fleeing from any material connection to the terrorists or anyone seen to have a connection who isn't themselves actively cutting ties with them.
because spying.
Is anybody keeping track of all the potential CentOS replacements that are appearing in these months?
Yes, because the trade off is worth it, and we should treat people like grownups who can think for themselves. Why not encourage critical thinking and wider reading, instead of being the police of literally all the information on your giant social media platform?
Cool so now there's a ~$220M (x standard finder's fee %) bounty on cracking IronKey
I'll simplify the issue for you. Your tribe won out in this particular battle but you're worried that may not always be the case. You should absolutely be worried about that.
I believe the bus was operated by National City Lines. Could be wrong.
That's kind of what I was getting at with my original comment. A reasonably neutral source could quickly become untrusted by all those who are politically engaged.
Ask HN: What are you telling your children about last week's events?
Not to mention, in recent years there's been a rise in adoption of Nazi symbology: 88, Nazi salute, swastikas obviously, plus co-opting of Norse runes and symbols they perceive as associated with the Aryan race.

But it's not just Nazis that are the problem. They're clearly in the minority. There's growing interest in garden variety fascism. Some of the hallmarks of that are nationalism, militarism, submission to authority, anti-intellectualism, fomenting fear of "the other" and outsiders. Umberto Eco has a list [1] that encapsulates and explains these. And, I'm sorry, but a lot of these describe the trajectory of the current Republican Party, especially under Trump's rule. (note: I think the GOP has largely abandoned what we would call "conservatism". Even though many of those left in the party might self-identify as conservative, they have veered into fascist ideology, they just won't admit it)

[1] https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list...
Well funny you mention 8kun specifically it is down at the time of your comment. I find HN to be a good balance of moderation and open discussion. Like all platforms it has it's biases but, people are relatively civil and open to discussion which is commendable in the current climate of online discussion.
Facebook for a long time refused to remove holocaust denial. What do you think about that?
Are people born "QAnon"? If you consider yourself moderate, are you Bi? Am I cis-liberal?

I think this analogy needs a lot of work.
From the letter AWS sent, a better analogy would be:

Craft store noticed their brand logo was on a poster board with messages calling for rape and execution of named individuals (a clearly illegal act). Craft store said in their sale recipt that the reserve the right to stop serving customers that promote illegal conduct.

First, however, the craft store asked the organizer to stop providing their poster boards to people organizing mass rape and execution event planning. "Please moderate, and you can continue to use our service"

The organizer days "go bleep yourself", to the store, followed by "if my members want to organize a mass execution of people, that's their protected speech!”

Store says "okay, your not welcome here anymore, see our terms of service"

AWS gave them a chance.. but at the end of the day, those messages calling for illegal acts are stored on AWS servers.. and Parler wanted to promote that kind of content to continue and amplify (it's good for business), but every day AWS is probably getting 50 warrants for information tied to having Parler as a customer. AWS service mark up doesn't cover 20 full time lawyers
qemu?
Floating buttons are…kind of annoying, to be honest. Just like those “back to top” buttons a lot of websites use.
Ironically, college-educated white collar workers (like those at Google) have sped that along by driving a wedge between economic liberals over social issues: https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-trump-won-in-two-dimensions...

When Amazon’s managers are Democrats you think any progress will get made on workers issues?