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Do you watch CNN? For about 2 years they had cnn playing on a tv near the break room, so as I refilled my water bottle, I got to see what cnn thought was the most important (Trump) news.

They spent a week on how much diet soda he drank. They had experts on saying why it could cause mental problems and that they should use the 25th on him.

They spent several days when he had 2 scoops of ice cream at a White House dinner, while his guests only got one scoop. I wish I was joking about this, but I am not. I sometimes wonder what Wolf Blitzer thinks as he’s commenting on some of these stories. Such a name, wasted.

Those are the two most comical, but the scary thing is all news is biased. Two sides of the same coin. If you don’t think so, I suggest you search out other sources. Why wouldn’t they be biased? News today is about making money, and cnn and others cashed in on the hate for trump.
For someone with such deep knowledge of the law you surely must know that a person can be considered a criminal only after being convicted by a court. So in this case the punishment was carried out based on allegations only.
Wow, nice answer. I genuinely didn't know any of that. This is why I continue to read HN despite the somewhat horrifying partisan turn of a lot of these topics.
Stanford frosh (freshman) here. What's disappointing about this is not _that_ they cancelled — most of my friends agree that it's the prudent thing to do — but that they waited so long to cancel. For context, classes start tomorrow [0]. One of my friends literally got the news about the cancellation when he landed in SFO yesterday.

Just a few weeks ago, they sent us an email reaffirming their plan to bring us back, yet COVID cases in California have remained relatively flat since then. It's unclear what specifically made them pull the plug. Maybe it was the 43 students testing positive. Maybe it was the rising cases in Santa Clara County. But nine months into the pandemic, it’s hard to see these as surprises.

Personally, I wish they did it two or three weeks ago. Or even a week ago. Or even last week. Just not the Saturday night before classes start. (We got this news yesterday.) The writing was on the wall the entire time — they could have saved everyone (including themselves) a lot of time and effort by just being realistic.

Oh well. Surely there are sides to this I'm not seeing.

[0] Classes do start tomorrow (Jan 11), but most students would move in around Jan 22. A small subset of students (RAs, international students, etc.) have been moving in over the past few days, and they won't be asked to leave.
I think it's always important, when talking about Al-Alndalus - that even in works like The ornament, there is the temptation to selectively play up cooperative elements of the society and turning a blind eye to the fact that the general circumstances of the society are not one in which we as moderns would see as particularly 'multicultural' or 'tolerant' ; Scholars are good at holding these things in separation lay people generally muddle the two. Holding other religions as subservient classes is not in line with our ideals of modern religious tolerance.

I think its somewhat inevitable that pagan works would be lost over the centuries, and less surprising that they would survive in dryer climates. Ultimately, I think to make the christians look particularly oppresive and destructive one has to overlook a lot of pagan violence.
In the case of the islamic world, we can say for sure that there was a general destruction of churches, existing infrastructure and a general looting of most of the areas that came under islamic domination. And this is the pattern for the exchange of cultures nothing unusual. Taking the Dome of the Rock for an illustrative example - the Mosque at the dome of the rock began as a looted Marian shrine, built over the ancient roman temple which the romans themselves built over Herod's second temple.
I have a dog and have set times where I have to take it out.

The benefit is like rubber-duck debugging. For about 45 minutes I have no interesting things to distract my mind and I automatically start thrashing any meaty problems I left specifically for this. Works for me.
I found this page when searching for the ICs in (what I now know is) a tuner module. Surprised that this site has never been posted to HN before. I'm working on FMCW radar related stuff so it was super interesting to me too.
How are you covid conspiracy blatherers still active. What do you get out of this?
Do you have any actual evidence of coordination, or are you just making stuff up?
They are free to buy hardware and self host their website. It's not rocket science.
Do any of them solve the problem?
Even if corporations were to pre-emptively ban all speech that threatens to undermine the public faith in our elections, there is still a legal system which allows for complaints to be heard fairly. For all practical purposes, "How many people can you broadcast your message to" has effectively zero bearing on the strength of your legal case. Therefore, I don't see how banning seditious speech opens up an avenue for someone to actually steal an election.
You do have to know something of the history of the account in order to really respond to our banning it. We wouldn't have banned it just for that one post, even though it obviously breaks the site guidelines by being flamebait and name-calling ('thoughtcrimes') and ideological battle.

Banning all politics from HN is not an option, for reasons I've explained many times. See the links here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25723581.
Which gave rise to the Cow Tools trope (TVTropes link warning, abandon productivity all ye who enter here): https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CowTools
> not sure how the vpn thing got started

Some VPN apps use their own kernel extension and macOS Big Sur discourages that. https://tunnelblick.net/cTunTapConnections.html

Some VPN apps that weren't using VPN but used proxying also are affected. Also read https://protonvpn.com/blog/big-sur-exclusion-list/ for more info.
Does this gratify anyone's intellectual curiosity though? Ie. Is it on-topic for HN? I don't get to make that decision, but I do think the bar for US Politics Article #5046 should be higher than "rendering a square on a quad".

A good analysis article around _why_ technology companies are moving in one direction on moderation policy at once? Yes. Excellent.

As-it-happens news articles? Ehhh. Not as much. There are other places on the internet for that sort of thing.
What's lunacy is inciting your supporters to be violent and try to overthrow democracy. Replace insurrection with child porn and see if your argument still stands.
What a weird thing to consider. The farmers' opinion is possibly the least relevant thing here. One might as well argue against environmental regulation on the grounds that you can't convince Volkswagen. "I'd love to see you try and convince a diesel car company executive that electric is the future". Yeah, I'm not going to do that. He's going to play along because the market and I will make him.

I'm not going to convince farmers of anything. It will simply be untenable for future governments to have public roads that are not usable by cars.
> would throw their work over the wall to me
For myself as QA, I would see the throwing the opposite direction. Devs started having me close out unit tests, giving incomplete work hoping I find their issues, gathering requirements to know what to test etc.
Another notable thing about the Spanish flu vs. today. Back then, they had no alternative. They could not deliver their service -- not even a fraction of it -- without having the campus open. Today this is largely not the case. Remote learning sucks but it is doable for most competent young adults.
>Then just present the ideas as ideas about society, economics, and technology and forego the damaged title branding associated with the deaths of tens of millions and suffering of hundreds of millions more.

Other people consider capitalism, western powers, imperialism, islamism, christianism, and others to taste, associated with "the deaths of tens of millions and suffering of hundreds of millions more" and yet you probably have no problem with at least one of those, if not more...

As if Marx or Marxism implies some inevitable association with Stalinism (or e.g. Christianity = the crusades, the spanish inquisition, etc.).
I am also worried. It feels like Big Tech flourished in last 4 years with advertisement revenue while staying hush about these issues, but all of a sudden they have an epiphany now.

Big Tech leaders are selfish, cowards, clueless and just as vulnerable as the government leaders. They were interested in milking billions in Ads from these hate speech, particularly Twitter.

If I were employees at these big companies, I would raise internal questions - why wasn't this done earlier? What changed? The US Capitol riots is the specific moment that made them all wake up?

These are rhetorical questions. All big tech leaders appeared in front of Congress in last 4 years, and weasled and squeeked instead of prowl and roar. Spineless and immoral, speaking double speak to appease the board of directors and the shareholders. At some point, the world would be destroyed but we've created a lot of value for our shareholders. Reminds me of this [1]. Pardon my cynicism, open for your comments.

[1] https://twitter.com/Benioff/status/549339156854214656/photo/...
> AWS and Visa feel like the former, though they are legally the latter.

Back in the day, you had to rack your own servers in your own data centers and manage them yourself. Had any of these 'free speech' services spent any time considering how reliant they were on 3rd party services, they should never have engaged those companies in the first place.

There was a day when you had to build your own servers to host your own websites. Not that long ago, imo.
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/vax.html

Haven't used it, but here's the simulator. For some software options:

http://simh.trailing-edge.com/software.html
>They are capable of evaluating claims made by the GOP.

Do you really believe that?
> There were attempts to address their complaints.

The complaints were not heard without first attempting to call to shame an entire group of 75mil people.

And your second source can be read a different way: “find the votes that existed that you shred”, he’s not saying make up the votes, he’s saying find the ones he believes they fraudulently shred. Part of the divide in this country is taking something like this, twisting the words to make a sensational title that’s then thrown at every moderate or conservative. Think about how much this has happened over the last 4 years.
Which itself is clearly driven by the sea change in the climate of political violence in this country over the past four days. On which we've clearly spent the many thousands of comments mentioned in tpacek's upthread comment. Bannon got banned for being part of the same violent subculture that got Trump banned and Parler canceled. I don't know that there's more that can be said that wasn't already in the other topics.
yeah...Gets harder and harder every year.
(insert joke about naming things & cache coherency here :-P )
>It's not stupid to believe the president of the United States will be honest with them

I think it's pretty stupid. The entire Iraq war was based on lies. Trump in particular is a terrible liar but has lied consistently for forty years.
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If you posted here and soliciting early adopters it would be good to have it working.
If you truly think a mass of armed people stormed the capitol then you too have fallen prey to lies.

What I’m saying is both actions didn’t end with a good look and they both should be condemned

Edit: I seemed to have touched a nerve. I was rewatching video from people storming the capitol. They were not armed and they were all milling about without a plan. Even the lady that was shot was unarmed

Edit2: I think we are being hoodwinked. We saw lots of angry people storming the capitol out of frustration, provoked by false information fed to them. I don’t think the disinformation campaign stopped at the rally, I think it is continuing now. Everyone is being led to believe that the folks who walked in were acting the same as the Michigan capitol protest earlier last year. It was not like that. It was a bunch of people thinking they were going to make a difference and ended up not having a clue of what they were going to do. The orderly exit of most leaving the capitol building is proof of this.

I just ask before you rage downvote to pause and think is this the division they (those making the narrative of DC burning vs Capitol Siege) are trying to sow? Both actions are heinous and doesn’t look good for America regardless of how you try to spin it.
Even if those opinions call for murdering journalists? Like many countries in Europe, calls for violence should be illegal. It's also pretty easy to not care about these things if your are a white conservative male and not the target of these things.
Hopefully a modern solution to DNS comes knocking sometime soon.
You're welcome. Looking forward to try it out once it's fixed :-).
The comment was edited after I replied to it—in fact it was basically rewritten. If it had been written that way in the first place, of course I wouldn't have replied.
Well, NitW was released first, but the story runs out of track about 80% through - not sure if they ran out of ideas or money.
That they show up on a site of otherwise reasonably intelligent readers (HN) baffles me most.
Nursing has a sizeable crowd of mid level marketing, "alternative medicine" and other such frauds. Doctors of course do too because it can be big money to have your doctorate attached to it.

We need to remove these people from operating in public care but unions and friends don't currently care.
This explains the return I tried to make last week!

I bought a dip bar attachment for power racks so I could dip after my bench presses at the gym. These were $65. I also bought $15 barbell clamps.

Unfortunately, the dip bar attachments were too narrow for the power racks I was using. So I decided to return everything at once.

I was able to return the dip bars but when I tried to return the clamps, Amazon told me to keep the item despite refunding my money.

It was so weird.
False equivalence. Looting commercial districts (while objectionable) is not the same as falsely claiming a federal election was stolen and looting the Capital.
One factor they might have been considering: it does seem like these covid spikes reach a point, and then calm down. They might have hoped the top of the peak would have come earlier, and they might have been able to announce that it were safe to return. For example, if Cali had peaked a week ago, by the time y'all were set to move in, it would have been relatively safe.
I don’t distance myself from people with a different opinion. I distance myself from people that have a different opinion for the wrong reasons.
> And it involved multiple "sides" in various states of cooperation or opposition.

This is a good point that deserves to be reiterated. At its worst you certainly had the stereotypical "pig" cops that everyone likes to ACAB at. The kind that intentionally incite an otherwise peaceful crowd; the kind that may shoot at erstwhile peaceful bystanders (including people standing on their own porch) with rubber bullets; the kind that aim their gas canister launchers directly at people standing nearby, against all common decency, and often department policy/law.

But you also had police departments that merely monitored a situation without forcefully intruding unless necessary. Some even that put away their weapons and peacefully marched with protestors.
> If you don't mind me asking: what do you do in tech, and why are you on YC if you are so averse to it?

I am not averse to tech, I just don't think that it currently has a place in (or instead of) politics.

I work for a company on network testing software (packet generators), as a principal software engineer on the middleware of one such product. Nothing world-changing, B2B, far away from any kind of societal shaping effects like ads or social networks.

I am mostly on YC because of my interest in tech itself, and because I am interested in the political and social views of the tech community, not because I think we tech people have some special insight, but simply because I am part of this community.

For the rest of your post, I will reiterate my position: we can't outsource governance or politics (what ought to be) to technology, until we have something close to AGI. We don't have the required knowledge to create software that can arbitrate social or economical truths, we would need a working formal mathematical model of society or the economy before we could even start to write software for that. Any attempts would probably end up more like 'predictive policing' (racism with a technical veneer) than any positive outcomes.

Bitcoin is a failed experiment at creating a digital currency, it is just a speculative asset with some appeal to black and gray markets.
Yes, that is a theoretical problem, for sure. All choices have pros and cons.
You edited your GP comment after I replied to it, to remove the place where you had broken the site guidelines. Sometimes people do that to make the mods look bad, but I'm going to assume you didn't do it for that reason. Please don't do it again, or at least not without explaining to the reader that you did. That holds whether the other commenter is a mod or not. It's just good manners.

Also, please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait to HN (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25696652). We're trying for something different on this site, especially now.
ProtonVPN Prevents Apple Apps on Big Sur Exclusion List from Bypassing Firewall
But is it helpful for that discussion to repeatedly restart it for every social media platform in the sea? The specific details of the source article here don't seem to have added any new information; 100% of the comments I see would have fit equally well on "Stripe bans Trump campaign" or "Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler" or any of the other threads we've had over the past few days.
Russian opposition is tamest of the tame, yet, it is routinely deplatformed and prosecuted, guess for what, calls for extremism and violence! And a large portion of population believes that to be true, because government controls most sources of information.

I think US might look exactly same in a few years. The mighty benevolent Party will care for thankful citizens, with the exception of a few outcasts who can't even create a simple website and are laughed at all over the media and social networks. And of course the Party will win all the subsequent elections for the next 70 years.
I too remember the uproar of Obama wearing a tan suit. Or his mustard on a burger faux pas. And the weeklong intervention into the lack of an American flag on his lapel.

This is why I say both sides hide skeletons in their closet.
Do you remember CHAZ and what its abbreviation stands for? Double standard.
Seems like cars get spooked by odd things in their paths just like cows, huh?

Well, I see 2 aspects that make this a "good" failure scenario, regardless of how they solve it.

First, having the sensor+algorithm interpret something conservatively as "should stop" for it rather than "ok to go through" at possible grave cost, is the right behavior.

Second, this is already (as you can tell by the exceptional nature of the story) a very rural and special case where the driver should be driving alertly (and slowly) anyway. From the photo, this is not something meant to be gone over at high speed blindly.

As for the cars going off the road, that needs more explanation as the only action cars should be applying automatically is braking, not turning.
So what is the alternative, do we make all media completely responsible for the content that they carry in the same what that you tube is responsible for removing copywrite content that is posted?

Will this not lead to all posts having to be moderated before being published? Do we really want to go down that path, and the inevitable removal of many open discussion forums that will be unable to effectively moderate content?

This is a very difficult problem but I don't think the solution is to hold hosting organisations either legally or morally responsible for the content they carry.

Where does this leave the voice of minority groups that for some reason are seen as "unacceptable" to the majority of the population?

Should a non-religious voice in a religious society be banned from talking just because they express it would be nice if women could drive cars?

Should we ban the gay person who talks about the shitty treatment they get when trying to get medical treatment just because they live in a primarily heterosexual society.

Should we stop a group organising protests against deaths at official hands just because they are really pissed off and there is some potential that official organisation may react badly to the protest.

Personally I find the language and behaviour of your president and his cronies to be completely unacceptable and frankly unhinged. However would you prefer them standing in public sprouting their rubbish where we can all hear them and point out the ridiculousness of their words, or would you prefer to have them hide away in private, able to say whatever they want with no chance of opposing voice?

I don't really know what the answer to this movement is. I know one of the answers is better education, teaching people critical thinking, but I don't know that this is going to be something that happens quickly. What I do know is that you can never win somebody to your point of view unless you actually engage with them, rather than just tell them they are wrong and cut them off.

To quote a song that escapes me at the moment, we need to "Keep on Talking"!
I saw it on twitter, but this article has it too along with a good overview of the subject:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/several-well-know...

You keep dodging. First it was "these groups aren't there" now they're just LARPers in camo and don't matter. People keep shooting down your arguments and you keep moving the goalposts.
Your data is not limited to your messages. Who do you talk to, how many times, when, where, your social graph, when you go online, how frequently you are online, what avatar you have etc. etc.

And remember you are authorizing yourself with your number, which is for most people is valid identifying point, and can be used to trace back to individuals.

While Signal claims phone numbers are hashed and never used for any real identification purposes and whatsoever, I think this is still very questionable. They could easily design the system to allow one to authorize with username from the beginning.

I don't wanna go into much details, but I personally will never take anything Signal tells for granted for two main reasons, first it's centralized (it's doesn't matter if it's owned by non-profit organization), second it's operated in the USA, meaning they are bound to cooperate with intelligence agencies when they have to.
relative to the size of the crowd it was very few. I'd say less than a hundred.
There's a quote that I think of in situations like this:

"Be the change you want to see in the world" - ghandi

That said, you can't do that with windows or macosx.

Now capitalism works, so apple and microsoft apply the money they make to hard/unsexy things like sleep-wake bug fixes and APIs and sane defaults.

But they also bake advertising into their codebase and leech data home to the mothership and prevent you from running all the programs you'd like.

So look at linux as an opportunity.