skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I pronounce etc in my head as “ets” as if you’re about to say “et cetera” but stopped short. I read etc. in print the same way and have since I was a kid.

I suspect that split pronunciation between head and mouth is very common. I do the same thing with some words, like giblet, which in my head has a hard g, but when I say it I say it with a soft g.
Thank you, I now see the central point "absolute tolerance is not sustainable". That reads far better than the original paradox.

Discussing the point itself: Yea it makes sense though and I had arguments with a liberatarian friend who wants 100% anarchy. No police, no laws, no anything, no FDA, no Fire department and no medical laws, no lawyers, etc. My argument was that such a society is impossible and would crumble upon itself. One bad actor and the entire society falls apart.
The Wikipedia page dedicates an entire section to explaining that comment, under "Appointment to CEO, controversy and resignation". He was forced out of the CEO position for this political view. It was a pretty significant news story, and I think they are right for including this as part of what he is known for (particularly outside the HN community).
Yea, if SEO is to have a useful meaning, it really out to be "changes you make to improve search ranking holding quality fixed".
Is this particular move by Apple, Google, Facebook, and Twitter the end of big tech in the US?

My concern the following. These companies have shown that they wield a huge amount of power. With their actions in the Georgia Senate in removing Republic ads, hey have likely frightened 50 sitting Senators. The democratic party has never shied away from regulation. So we likely now have two parties aligned in their desire for control of social media. Will this result strong federal regulation for social media and its ecosystem (AWS, Google Cloud, App stores)?

I wouldn't expect nationalization or audience distribution limitations, but instead perhaps application of exceedingly strong federal oversight over any media distribution platform and its ecosystem akin to early days of radio and television.

An end result of this would be a dramatic change in how freely they operate, putting them in a regulatory position akin to Microsoft's 2002 consent decree.
What does balanced mean? It's supposed to be well-cited not balanced
We were talking about sedition. People have been charged with many crimes, but not sedition.
> What makes the "attack" on the Capitol any worse than the "attack" on the White House in Sep 2020?

Those protesters didn't have bombs and guillotines. And they were being beaten and gassed by police, they weren't killing police officers. I hear you that if that mob killed someone it would be just as bad, 100% agree.

> It boggles my mind to think that censorship is how to handle dissent.

Because you have the right to be a jerk in your own house, but not in mine. Twitter is not Trump's house, it's Jack's and his shareholders. Trump's being a jerk so them kicked him out. Some things that will get you banned on Twitter, FB will let slide and visa versa. If people don't like their policies, they can leave. It's a free market, which is a traditional Republican position. It's never been a Republican position to force a company to allow someone to create their own Terms & Conditions or User Agreement or force companies to accept someone as a customer until this modern "free speech should apply to private companies" movement.

And dissent is different than lying. It's clear his ego can't handle losing and he will desperately resort to pressure folks to "find votes" in Georgia, or pressure Senators to not certify electoral votes that withstood every legal challenge. This isn't normal and this isn't OK. It's not like this is a healthy debate or a passionate dissent that someone's getting deplatformed for. This is a dangerous, self-indulgent, completely self-serving game of lying to the public that's already resulted in multiple deaths.

If Trump gets arrested for speaking his mind in a public park then we have a huge problem. Until then, he can build his own platform and spout his ideas there. No one is stopping him and no one should.
The Instagram post you've linked to here came up with a giant "false information: verified by independent fact checkers" label. You're citing random links and assertions, and when they're knocked down, you move on to new ones. That's what a Gish Gallop is.

The fallacy you're exploiting is the notion that we're not supposed to see your assertions failing (and you refusing to acknowledging those failures) and draw conclusions about the rest of your assertions. A reasonable person looks at this exchange and concludes that there's no particular reason to take any of your arguments seriously.
It sounds like it should be possible (CMake also has eval), but the lack of OOP isn't so much a problem for what I needed. Packing and unpacking the vectors was more annoying. I can live without OOP, I've written enough C to get used to it haha.
Physical therapists, however, are pretty darn good at diagnosing muscular problems and excellent at providing problem-specific solutions.
That would be a different tangent and will beg the question, ‘is rape natural?’

Sociobiological theories may suggest that it is so and we have seen instances of rape amongst humans(Altho it also happens in the animal kingdom and possibly birds...I don’t think there is even a notion of ‘consent’ there): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociobiological_theories_of_...

This is not an easy read but worth a glance :

https://cyber.harvard.edu/vaw00/theories_of_rape.html

And

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1037/1089-2680.12.1.86
This was just before she announced her candidacy, I saw some interesting posts on Reddit. I can't say for certain what exactly happened but it was just super fishy.

Some further reading :
https://old.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/gni8t5/using_wi...

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/kamala-harris-wikipedia/

https://old.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/hk6eo3/kamala_ha... (check other discussions also)

I hope that gives a good starting point.

PS: I don't have a horse in this race, I just know my trust in wikipedia was shaken.
You can't see the difference between a single lone wolf attack at a baseball game, and an entire mob instigated by the President of the United States, at the US Capitol? Taking place while Congress counted the votes of that President's political opponent?
There's no need to ban email. It's unencrypted plain text, with a small number of majority providers. Filtering extremist content at that level should be easy enough.
I mean, it's what he's known for. It was a very big deal when it was discovered that he opposed and donated against gay marriage. He resigned as CEO of Mozilla over it.

Many people outside of internet communities like HN first learned his name when this all went down. Creator of JS wasn't as big a deal to most people at the time as CEO of a major non profit internet company opposing one of the biggest human rights issues of our time.
You cannot base your judgement on emotions, especially in times like this.

> His followers have now begun talking about returning with arms. Only fools would assume that these threats are idle talk or jokes.

I don't understand why it is so surprising for anyone, but this is what happens when you're trying to censor people. Banning Trump and censoring his supporters was a mistake, because it's basically like a declaration of war. If the social media waited like a month into the Biden presidency, Trump supporters would scream about the Big Tech into the ether and everything would die down eventually, but instead they decided to do it at the worst possible moment.
Signal doesn’t focus on discovery. It requires the relationship to form outside of the app.
People also need to think for themselves and take responsibility for their actions. Remember the case where someone got millions for spilling hot coffee on himself? Hot coffee is hot and it's the drinkers responsibility to not spill it. We can't blindly follow what we read or see. If we do that, there won't be any issue.

The other problem is that platforms try to be the arbiters of truth. That can't work because most things are in shades of gray. When platforms take sides, the other side feels slighted.
Jeez, thanks. I know someone who goes by Ola and is Polish, so I suppose her name is actually Aleksandra?
There's a huge difference between a lone actor and the large amount of people who went into the capitol on the 6th.
I think the point is that "pissing off" radicals is more cathartic than useful. What moderate people want is to thwart their ambitions, but ideally de-radicalize them so that they are no longer dangerous people in need of thwarting. The main argument I see against a move like this is that it may temporarily achieve the former but only at the expense of the latter.

Personally, I believe that de-platforming is a useful tool when radicalization is spreading like a contagion, but only if it is applied in a consistent way and with well defined boundaries.
I stopped using it. If they Can Block the president then fuck them,,, One way to stop twitter and facebook is for the 75 million people that voted for president trump to stop using twitter and facebook... The consumer can fire any company just stop using there product.
Sometimes the "simple English" version is better than the "full" English version - perhaps especially for mathematics.
I guess he's known for it in the sense that he made a $1000 donation to support prop 8 and a bunch of people overreacted and he had to resign. Really, he's known for a specific controversy around gay marriage.
I would imagine Amazon is likely to be sued if they continue allowing Parler to remain on their cloud without dramatically improving moderation of violent and illegal content. Sure Amazon could probably fight such a suit and win, but why would they waste that money and take that risk? Plus, who really want to be seen as fighting for Parler right now?

Maybe Amazons motives are not really based on their obligation to protect the company from unnecessary liability. Maybe that is just a handy excuse for getting rid of a customer that is hurting their reputation. It is difficult to say from the outside. But even then how do we decide which companies are allowed cease business with customers damage their reputation. What if a smaller provider has an existentially large customer who threatens to leave if they don't stop doing business with another unsavory customer. Will have a rule that is so strict they just have to go out of business? Or will we not allow the large customer to leave? It is god damned mine field.

This is all such a beautiful example of the immense complexity of the real world. People must make hard decisions where there are no clearly right answers. Maybe they try to do the most ethical thing, maybe they look out for their company, or maybe they serve their own selfish interest. Regardless, there is lots of potential for unintended consequences. For one, others will then frame those actions and the consequences in a narrative to support their own business or political goals.
Having looked into it a bit, I've been severely disappointed that we have no good theory of why Wikipedia works. There are lots of putative explanations, but they all predict the successful existence of all sorts of collaborative projects that we don't actually see. Wikipedia is such a treasure, and it would be extremely valuable to know more about how it works so we can replicate aspects of it for other projects.
> That "protest gone off the rails, with a few bad actors" would have absolutely executed a member of Congress or the Vice President if given the chance.

So BLM mob killing random innocents is fine with you? Seems like brave new world of "all lives are equal but some are more equal than others."
-site:wikipedia.org

Now you'll have to find something else to rant about on the Internet.
Maybe that'll be my next project. Or instead someone should just write a compiler which outputs a printf format string, perhaps?
I also love making threats on social media then flying across the country and taking weapons into buildings where they’re not allowed so I can definitely not use them for anything.
If it’s dead cops you want google 2016 Dallas BLM ambush. 5 dead, 12 wounded enough?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting...
According to the Toronto Star [1]:

> ...work was being done to fire up Pakistan’s main Tarbela power station in the northwest, which would lead to a restoration of power in the rest of the country in phases.

> ...the Guddu power plant in southern Sindh province developed a fault at 11:41 p.m. that triggered the shutdown of other power plants in seconds.

[1] https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia/2021/01/10/minister-...
Likewise, private companies are not required to host any speech, as long as they aren't discriminatory against a protected class.

Cory Doctrow put it best: Let these companies ban whomever, for whatever (legal) reason. Then, push for anti-trust and decentralization, because the REAL problem is we have an oligopoly controlling social media.
It is never about Taiwan. This move itself is to attack China. Everything to do with Taiwan is not about Taiwan, 1972 and 2021.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Taiwan
Who has been out of LEO lately?
I feel the same, and TBH this site really isn't much better. It's a groupthink incubator just like Twitter and Facebook, and though I've only been here less than 12 hours I regret signing up.
It's literally on his website, and yes it's true (about him, no idea about the other people on his site). There's a lot of drama and such in that entire space, and I've spent many months following it all and listening to many different viewpoints from different people in that space. Each election/primaries cycle it's the same story over and over, Nate silver is cringingly wrong, states the opposite of truth as fact. On the other hand, you have other groups of people/companies who are like an order of magnitude quantifiably/verifiably more accurate, and they all make jokes about his "predictions." Basically he made a baseball algorithm, sold out, and now uses his influence to do what he's paid to do, support an agenda, just like CNN/Fox and other super biased news sources.
The consumer can fire any company just stop using there products.

I stopped using it. If they Can Block the president then fuck them,,, One way to stop twitter and facebook is for the 75 million people that voted for president trump to stop using twitter and facebook...
An Eternal September can easily be avoided by joining a small server with a community you like. I and others would recommend over a couple hundred but under a couple thousand.

As for improving discourse, I think you are exactly right. Unlike big tech Masto mods don't have the weight of the world on their shoulders and can moderate however. Nazi pits will still exist, but they'll be isolated.
Were they a part of a mob swarming the baseball practice? If so, then yes, they were all complicit for not stopping an escalation of violence. If not, then no, it was a single actor. It's not that hard to apply a tiny amount of critical thinking to avoid false equivalency.
Slavery was the main cause of the civil war, but it wasn’t just human rights. Slaves gave the confederate states a massive manpower and economic advantage in the long run. Not to mention the slave trade made massive cash in itself.

The union was forced as much by economics as it was by human rights, unless all the northern states would also undo their abolitionist views.
everyone has a limit. for google, amazon, Twitter, Facebook, tik tok, Twitch and reddit. It is the point when there are screams for violence against lawmakers, the vice president, the president elect, the speaker of the house and the speaker of the senate. These are no empty threats as we saw last week and the companies which have the data are seeing plans for more violence being made on their platforms. They know more than we are and they are reacting like this. I think it will get worse in the next days and if there is a coup you are complicit and more important if your intentions in this post are honorable you will try to discuss the exact same thing we are discussing right now and will be shutdown and laughed at.

This is no morale debate anymore your choice is life or death. As a German I think about 1923 the attempted beer house coup in Munich and the lax response to Adolf Hitler and can only shake my heads at people like you.

At least I hope your sentiment comes from a high morale standpoint and not from misdirection as so many are in these threads.
A grand total of 5 deaths I believe. For what it was, that's probably just about the best possible outcome you can hope for. (Small consolation.)

If they had gotten hold of anyone (especially Pence), the violence might have spiraled completely out of control.

It was a really dangerous situation.
Bernie didn't tell him to do what he did, and he was just one guy. This was a large mob, and Trump had just instructed it to do 90% of what it did. The possibility that violence could occur was clear. That's not at all a valid comparison.
> 3. DO NOT treat exercise as a priority. Because then it is subject to your other priorities. Instead, make it a habit.

This is the key to making it work. It's not about commitment, it's about making a part of your daily routine, like brushing your teeth. Commitments are easy to break, habits are easy to keep.
> (I'm not sure /tʃm/ is valid in any language - words or names that start with "chm" seem to be Polish/Russian words transliterating /xm/.)

Oh it sure is in Croatian (and other Slavic languages), "tʃ" is written as "č". We even have slang words like "čmr-lji-ti" [t͡ʃmrʎiti]. "r" (rolling r) can function as a vowel.
I don't understand the beard trend. (Pictured in the article) It seems like a huge portion of anti-government and/or ardent President Trump supporters have those big untrimmed beards.

Is it regional based on where many such supporters live? I certainly don't see any ideological link to untrimmed beards, so it must be some other co-occuring factor.
I purposefully stayed away from the "Lazy" word, since I do think that starts to lean towards unhelpful (and if I'm claiming you're unhelpful, then the very least I should do is be helpful myself).

I purposefully used three words to describe your argument: unhelpful, abstract, and too hyperbolic. Which hopefully provides you enough room to move forward with the discussion.

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I wouldn't sweat it. I don't think your argument is "lazy". If anything, you're posting in too many threads simultaneously.

If I were in your boat, I'd start cutting out the threads which are least helpful, and start focusing on the discussion threads which are most promising.

Not all discussions are fruitful. If you have fewer discussions, you'll find that you'll naturally result in higher-quality discussions. You shouldn't feel the need to respond to everyone.
In grad school back in like 2007 I took a 2-credit class called "The History of Nuclear Enterprise" taught by one of those long white-haired Doc Brown type professors. The final project was for each of us to make Wikipedia pages describing some important topic that wasn't covered yet. I made one on the university's nuclear reactor which had just been shut down. I dug through many linear feet of archived info, scanning photos and collecting various info for the page. It was super rewarding. I was hooked.

Variously since then I have gone deep into some fringe but important-to-some topic and found hard-to-find sources. I've found it effective to collect and present this information in Wikipedia pages.

Like a few months ago I made the page for the Aircraft Reactor Experiment [1], the world's first molten salt-fueled nuclear reactor, built and operated with intent to make nuclear-powered long-range aircraft. I'm pretty proud of the page, and go back to use it somewhat regularly. Having the platform of Wikipedia inspires me to go the slight extra mile in personal research in a way that can be used by everyone.

Thanks Wikipedia, for existing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_Reactor_Experiment
You should read more, then.
The whole point of these patent pools is that they charge a uniform fee schedule to all users of a particular technology. There isn't much room for Mozilla to negotiate. MPEG-LA demands their pound of flesh.
Who said they should?
This might not be quite the examples you're looking for, but here's a study of Wikipedia's leftward bias from Harvard: https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/41946110/greenst...
Breakage happens less in testing. That's the main reason I'm using it vs Sid.
The consumer can fire any company just stop using their products.
What sources do you have on the decline of it's reputation?
Exactly. They have no right to the megaphone that social media offers.

Let them build their own websites and find their own audiences.

This is quarantining of ideological violence.
On May 31, they set fire to the Church of the Presidents, threatening the entire city.

(To be clear, as in most cases, I'm sure this was only a tiny minority of extremists.)

> Until then, he can build his own platform and spout his ideas there.

That's exactly what this is about: Parler.

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EDIT: Not to mention there was an astonishingly low number of casualties for such a deliberately violent attack force.
Very useful information here. I particularly liked the snippets + print debugging section. Would love to see an LSP + autocompletion article in the same style.
They focus on certain things while plenty of other companies run their own hosting services. It is not needed effort.
These are the same people who say "WeLl WhY dOnT u ReWrItE iT iN C???"
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I’m not sure what you are reacting to. Of course war is not desirable.

The parent post said that America could not stop China from taking Taiwan. I want to know what they mean by this.

What do you think are the US core interests? Is maintaining and defending our allies not one? Would it be different if it was Australia or Canada? What about Alaska? Where would you draw the line?
What you describe is indeed the problem, but SHOULD it rightfully be the problem? Or should we really be concerned about the truth of who won, and leave it at that? The mistrust was fueled entirely by Trump. Prior to Nov 3, more Republicans than Democrats expressed confidence in the integrity of the system. So if you dont dispute the election result, then the problem would seem to lie entirely with Trump lies, and all who choose to believe them over evidence. You know Mccarthyism was a thing? Was it because there were systematic issues at the time making our Congress susceptible to a Communist majority, or was it because of a demogogue, lies lies lies, and willfully ignorant believers?
> Since Wikipedia just repeats what the mainstream media says

Citation needed.
How in the world did you get that from my post? No, that is not fine. I don't support rioting at all, certainly not the deaths of random innocents, whether it was BLM or what happened at the Capitol.

Why would you attribute that belief to me, something I gave exactly zero reason for?
Yep, I do think it's more of this and dealing with things on a case-by-case basis to asses a company's stance as opposed to setting a precedent. I have a hard time imagining aws booting off a company that is making a good faith attempt at moderation.
Either Rust improved dramatically while I wasn't looking the last few days, or that's some of the most beautiful trolling I've ever seen. Someone needs to be congratulated, either way ;)

I love Rust. It's like a beautiful puzzle that keeps my mind sharp and lets me make things that are truly elegant and performant. But the borrow checker is omnipresent, inescapable, and complexity-inducing... far from straightforward.