skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It's clear the U.S. is totally Balkanized. The two sides are living in completely different realities. There can be no discussion between them when the claim is "My side is truthful and your side is full of lies."

Anyone making the claim that his side is the side of truth and justice and the other side is the one of delusions and falsehoods is not looking for healing or reconciliation. He is in search of either total domination of the other side, or divorce, or worse.

The question is: do you think your side will be able to totally dominate the other side? Is it possible to totally dominate 75 million Americans who view your domination as something evil to be opposed, possibly violently?

It seems you're betting it is, and your side will pull it off.

Though I wonder: what is this confidence based upon?

Your side controls the institutions and the cities. What happens when the people outside the cities simply stop listening to what the cities and the institutions say? What happens when the media and academies and federal government can say whatever they like, but everyone outside the metropolises simply starts to ignore them and make their own rules?

This is the real problem with Balkanization: once the dialogue breaks down, everything else starts to break down after it.
> In fact, once the social media companies have to assume legal liability — not just for libel, but for inciting violence and so on — they will quickly change their algorithms to block anything remotely problematic.

If websites are legally liable even for libellous comments made by users, then "anything remotely problematic" will include "any negative claim by anyone about any other person or company". Perhaps the author needs to read:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200531/23325444617/hello...
It makes you wonder what will happen ofter the tech cartel completes its project of silencing half the country.
You know, this whole not liking career politicians thing... isn't it kinda like not liking career doctors or lawyers? Why would we not want people who have spent their careers learning the ins and outs of the political landscape to represent us? Would we really rather have an amateur? How well did that work out when we elected one president?
The real danger isn’t in what people say on a platform where everyone disagrees. It’s going to be what happens when we have divided into different social networks, payment processors, banks, social networks, films, and credit unions. Do you know what you call people you can’t talk to? Enemies. It may be satisfying, but I can’t approve of these actions when I can foresee the horrific conclusion.
Thanks for providing the CNN link as well. Submitting WSJ’s own subtitle of “JPMorgan and Citigroup to halt all PAC donations” seems like it would have avoided the confusion entirely - it’s clear and accurate.
No, but nobody ever in anybodies wildest dreams would hold Apple liable for having one application in the store (among thousands) that belongs to one service (among dozens) that a couple of users (among millions) once discussed organizing violence (which they never organized, and the violence that happened has no relation to anything there). Pretending like Apple (or Google, or Twitter, or Facebook) censor politically because they want to "avoid liability" is either ignorance or hope that your opponent is so ignorant that they do not know what liability is and how it works.
Thx for your thoughts. You mentioned R&D flavor tickets. Really curious about the mechanics of this. Does the responsible engineer update once a sprint, weekly? I've seen junior staff spend months on dead ends .. curious how to manage that via process.

Also, if the R&D project is a team project involving multiple people, what is a reasonable update/sprint cadence?
This is more of a political statement from Stripe than a business decision.

They made their choice, we'll see the consequences of their actions now.

It's one thing to ban a normal person or business. But to ban Trump, the current sitting president, leader of GOP and the person that represent almost half the country, is tall order.

There's good reason why business should avoid politics, like Coinbase has done so far. It's a slippery slope that doesn't end well for the business.
Censorship is the seed of genocide. Change my mind.
> public declarations that violence was needed

Can you source these in the case of BLM? That's what I'm missing. Preferably equivalently specific plans, which amount to "our intent is to physically harm police officers and destroy a police precinct" at a minimum.

> how long the violence took to kick off, or who made the first escalation don't strike me as very relevant.

I think they're highly relevant to discussing the goal of the protests. If a group of protestors shows up and demonstrates peacefully, but is eventually goaded into violence by the group they're protesting[0], that's very different from a group that essentially immediately attacks the people they're protesting.

And, of course, all of this entirely assumes that both groups have equally valid concerns, which is just plainly not true and important to realize. If you're going to take a stance that violence is absolutely never valid, that's an interesting opinion that I don't believe I share. But if you're of the opinion that violence may be an acceptable response to injustice, well, there's a whole lot more reason to believe that BLM protestors have justification for their claim of injustice than stop-the-steal protestors.

[0]: I'll reiterate the importance of this, in general, especially with police tactics that escalate and force violence, such as kettling. While I don't think that specific tactic was present at the 3rd precinct events, tactics that escalate violence are often used against BLM protestors, to predictable results. The fact that violence was reached quickly and without any of those tactics at the capitol speaks to, I think, a different mindset.
Your numbers are wrong. There are 21 million COVID-19 cases in the U.S., and 350,000 deaths. That's a CFR of 1.67%. You picked the number of worldwide cases and compared it to the number of U.S. deaths.
If QAnon is truly "pretty common" on HN, then I'm sure you could easily point out, say, 3-4 QAnon posts on here from the past week.

That should be easy if QAnon is common on HN, right?
JuiceFS is the missing piece of ML eco around MLFlow / JupyterHub. We deployed it as researcher's primary storage solution as it perfectly scale a traditional linux (uid/gid based acl) experiece to cloud OSS.

Highly recommend to any team wanna build their internal machine learning platform on cloud.
> I am just explaining the psychology of how people can get swept up in the fervor of crowds.

So, “Whoopsie! I accidentally entered the Capitol through that broken window and got peer pressured right into the Senate?”
> Interesting thought. I imagine just about every language spec (with the possible exception of assembly languages) states something like If memory is exhausted, a handler is executed or If memory is exhausted, the behaviour is undefined, and it's always going to be up to the compiler/interpreter to make reasonable use of the available memory on the specific target platform.

I would have expected some words to those effects, but extensive browsing and grepping in the C++ spec did not reveal such language. (They do not mention the call stack at all, which is a fair enough decision.)

I was first looking into this, because I had hoped the standard would specify a way to check for whether the next call would blow up the stack before you actually engaged in the call.

> Would a C compiler be non-compliant if it generated code that used 100x the memory that would be used by code generated by typical C compiler? How about 1,000,000,000x so that its generated programs always failed immediately?

You could ask the same for speed of execution. I think it would be standards compliant, but not very useful. Standard compliance ain't the only thing people look for in a compiler.

In practice, you could make a C++ compiler that does the standard compliant thing to virtually all of people's programs, by just emitting the nethack executable regardless of input. After all, virtually all real world C++ programs have undefined behaviour somewhere, and undefined behaviour is allowed to 'travel backwards in time'. (Ie undefined behaviour anywhere makes the whole execution undefined, not just after it is encountered.)

Hey, you could even just start nethack instead of producing any files with your compiler at all. Enough undefined behaviour goes all the way to compile time, like eg not closing your quotes, I think.

> I imagine the formal methods folks must have done some thinking on this topic, as their whole field is about doing better than just go ahead and test it out. Could a standards-compliant C compiler used in a safety-critical domain generate code that, only very occasionally, uses a billion times the memory it typically uses?

I think for safety-critical code, you solve this conundrum by relying on extra guarantees that your compiler implementation makes, not just on the standard.
The politicians are 0.1% of the government. I'm sure government is getting along fine even with "people like me" out here.
The CFR in the United States is 1.67%. Your numbers are wrong.
It seems unlikely that there are people in the US with any interest in politics that aren’t already well aware of who Trump, Bannon, and Guliani are.
I agree with this position. Too many people seem to be looking for a small "patch" to the law to fix the problems we have today, or just more banning and censorship is the solution (which is permitted by Section 230).

I think shielding websites from liability for user comments is just a bad idea. Yes, it would probably mean the end of comments on the internet as we know it. That's the point of the article.
Yeah.. The piece you quoted is underselling it too. It's not "they will change their algorithms to block anything remotely problematic," it's more like "they will literally cease to exist because they'll be stuck in a legal quagmire of court dockets alleging that every post in a debate is libelous."

Imagine that every time someone reported a post on Facebook, or someone flagged a comment here on HN, that it had to go to a court/tribunal/government committee to decide if it should be taken down, if the platform should be punished, etc. It's just a total non-starter to even suggest that S230 be repealed. The entire interactive Internet depends on it.
The implied threat of radicalization should be dead to you, and those who try to make this argument. They are already radicalized.
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It seems like flax is popular amongst newcomers - I don't know if I've heard anyone who swears by it or says it's what their grandparents used.
I wouldn't say 'better'. Certainly, they're different. GCC does better in some ways, but worse in others. Somewhat notably, GCC doesn't do as good of a job at register allocation on some RISC architectures.
U r just a non-human typpinger. China, Chinese! Someone who is sane is able to do the right typing.
Correct. While silencing him may be satisfying, this road will lead us down a dark path. It is better to suffer a little evil than to loose everything good.
A culture war against the political and business elite Worked well enough to get Brexit passed.
Steve Bannon is beyond the Streisand Effect. It only works when something obscure is banned. Everyone who might be influenced by Bannon already knows about him.
Hyundai confirms talks with Apple on possible EV project
Not through the doors, but here's a window and a baseball bat, after breaking the window with a shield. https://youtu.be/SocnM1lHZB4?t=156

The link you posted before is a selection of the protests away from the building. I skipped through it and could not find any view of storming the building at all.

Is this what you were looking for? Or are you specifically looking for people who had their weapons in the open and visible to cameras and staff before even getting in? Because I don't think they would be that stupid.

And no, I don't believe the majority had any serious weapons with them. There is a decent number of people with padded gloves though - not something you normally take with you.
Except in California (where Stripe is HQ'd).

https://californiaemploymentlaw.foxrothschild.com/2018/10/ar....
Bought a brand new OLED off of Amazon. Arrived and set it up. A week later the picture goes out. I register the TV with manufacturer and open a ticket for repair. Meanwhile since it’s the holidays I see what Amazon offers for support.

I chat with someone who helps me out. They are arranging a freight pickup courier to return the TV. I tell the agent I threw the box out to the TV. They said well without the box to ship it back I’d have to get one and it’s costly. So the agent refunded me the OLED TV with my word I’d e-waste the TV. Not even a week old. So I’m still waiting to see if the manufacturer will warranty repair the TV.

I’m wondering if I got lucky because of Covid or the holidays?
That is exactly you counter cherry picked data. If someone cherry picks data, you show it's cherry picked data by showing your own cherry picked data. I'm not sure you have a point here.
I think it's because old radio circuits were topologically fairly simple but designed using priceless experience and big budgets (e.g. tangentially Tektronix had a scope with synthetic sampling rates in the THz in the 60s or so), whereas modern stuff is becoming - even in simple designs - harder and harder to analyse as margins are being chased.

You can usually work out the basics by finding out the main working chips in a product and reading their application notes - as long as it's not Chinese it should be well documented.
You should probably put that edit first, or just delete the post.
Steve Bannon called for the beheading of Dr Fauci. I'm not sure where you find consensus and compromise there.
Same for some parts of the US
Sir Tim Berners-Lee Is Building a 'New Internet', Where You Control Your Data
My god, bonfires?
However, cast iron will never be as non-stick as a good non-stick pan

a NEW non-stick pan. The advantage of cast iron is it gets better with age where a non-stick pan gets worse. Not to mention I have never gotten good self release of stuck food from a non-stick pan where as cast iron works a treat.

Also I always put bacon in my pan dry and hot, never have an issue
I've found if you are good at your position being part of the cost centre operation side means you will be left alone and ignored. Because of that you are less likely to be promoted. The profit side often gets random kudos, awards and probably bigger salaries.

For me being unimportant enough that money spent on a scrum master doesn't make sense is the right work-life balance.
What about if we don't rewind to 9/11 and talk about today's platforms?

I'm for banning anyone who's inciting violence like what we saw at the capital regardless of political leaning, so it's not a rhetorical question

I want to know who to report
Its always funny when people act like others are crazy when they are uneducated and don't understand why they said that.

The vaccines were rushed through the approval and there was an intense amount of pressure on the FDA to approve just about anything.

There is nothing wrong with vaccines that are safe, but we aren't sure this one is safe. It takes many years to find out if some drug is safe.

So the nurse was right, you are completely wrong to make fun of her because you're the one that doesn't understand why its important to wait.
>I think the “deeper problem” is thinking that Californians and Iowans share anything in common at all

I think just the opposite, there is virtually no difference between "red states" and "blue states", because nearly every urban area is "blue" and a few minutes drive away, every rural area is "red", no matter what state you're in.

And there's also the split between people who go to college and people who don't.

I think these are obviously the fault lines of today and therefore we aren't going to see a repeat of certain states seceding and something like the original Civil War.
It’s possible the other people were implicitly saying private companies should be free [to not publish someone’s speech]; I can’t argue on behalf of all the other people you have talked to.

But I can say that to me these are just different situations. It’s not contradictory to think that companies should be free to not associate with individuals for their brand, but should not be free to buy ads impersonating a competitor, or blocking links to a competitors products. The phrasing of companies should be free to do X doesn’t carry over to a different issue.
Well, in Scheme you need to rely on TCE, if you want your code to run for more than a specific finite time. There are no other looping constructs.

Haskell does have several macro systems, but they are not nearly as pervasively used as in Lisp languages. (Mostly, because laziness makes it easier to add eg something as foreign as even eg Prolog as an embedded DSL without macros.
And, of course, adding to Haskell syntax feels less natural than in Lisp.)
I think banning things temporarily to finish Biden take presidency seems OK to me. But banning permanently means we are failing with arguments to win over people.
Opposing violence permanently seems OK to me, but then a law should be made for it and not left for individual company.

Usually it is recommended that for complex and emotional content email/text communication is not good. It should be done in person. In social media complex/emotional things are being discussed in text form which causes more rift. So we need better tools video/animation/pictures to discuss things that are being discussed in social media. These better tools should be easy to use for common person to use and communicate.

It will be also good to have a tool, which for any argument gives all the assumption being made. Such a tool can also help in communicating better.

In short we need better communication tools and better laws.
(minor edit and added last sentence)
I wouldn't use a dishwasher. I can't speak to the soap harshness but yes, you don't want to soak that long.
You should use PPE but don't say it prevents covid. If that were true then it would have been under control long ago.

PPE reduces transmission. It doesn't stop it.
Disclosure to trial subjects of risk that Covid-19 vaccine will worsen disease
Ancient Viruses Are Buried in Your DNA (2017)
What do you mean by 'exactly as useful'? I can see how they are both useful, and there are even some problems were either approach works. But I don't see an exact correspondence?
Shh.. first rule of *
Things 'Explicit' Is Not
Presumably 20% of LAPD officers will find themselves on unpaid leave.
Nifty, but I found the navigation to be a little odd at first. I didn't immediately realise the bottom row is always the OP, and so tried to hit my back button to travel back 'up' from a thread but because it does not load a new page I couldn't.

It makes sense now that I figured it out (the bottom n rows keep expanding to be the full width, meaning you can always breadcrumb back) but that wasn't immediately obvious to me.

This is a cool idea though and definitely allows me to see the 'controversial' threads because they're usually the biggest flames :)

Does this order left-to-right based on the upvotes that HN itself uses for ordering?
Ironically you're failing my civics test here, because you seem unaware that tests as a precondition of voting are unconstitutional because they were used for a century to deny black people the right to vote. You real don't want to go down this road: It leads to wide scale targeted voter suppression.
"Oops, I may have committed some light treason"
There is a reason why they pay that much, they have trouble finding people comfortable with their insanity. That's also what I think is the real reason behind why the interview processes are so contrived and kafkaesques, they reflect the place.
It does make it harder for them to recruit.
Here's the full quote:

"Second term kicks off with firing Wray, firing Fauci. Now I actually want to go a step farther, but I realize the president is a kind-hearted man and a good man. I’d actually like to go back to the old times of Tudor England, I’d put the heads on pikes".

Now the generally understood figurative meaning of putting someone's "head on a pike" is "fire them in disgrace". But Bannon's ruled that one out in the first sentence. So I'm honestly at a loss as to what he meant.

Can you, as a "native-born American citizen", help me understand what his figurative meaning was here? I've asked a bunch of people on here who claimed "no big deal, it was a figure of speech" but they failed to explain what it means.
I wonder if the right answer to all this is some sort of parallel justice system with the responsibility to moderate things on the internet?

If you are a website which allows users to publicly post some kind of media, and have a user base >N per year, then you have to connect your website to the public moderator API, and pay some amount for the privilege.

Social media companies don't want responsibility for moderating things people publish on them, nor the blame when they get it wrong (or when they get it right but some people disagree, or when it's just plain judgement call).

At the same time, most people probably don't trust social media companies to do that moderation correctly. Also, as individual and companies we want some certainty about the rules and access to timely recourse if we do get moderated.

Not having moderation isn't an option (see child porn etc.).

(The fact that these are international platforms makes this extra difficult.)
Ahh, yes. The unheard such as <checks notes> CEOs, the sons of state supreme court judges, the wife of a US supreme court judge, retired millitary intelligence officers, general counsels, and state legislators.
Just consider the birther gaslighting, or everything else.
I think facebook has made the right call by cleaning up this mess but I do wonder if a corporation is the right one to be making these calls. Tech companies now hold more power than most governments which makes me wonder if we should start having public elections on who gets to run them. Or maybe they should be tied in more with the government. If someone starts inciting violence on facebook maybe it should be the job of the police to deal with this rather than some moderator sweatshop.
Thanks!

This article helped me wrap my head around what you just said:

https://journals.openedition.org/revdh/2680

> Hence free speech initially drove whistleblowing protection, and whilst it has been irrelevant for establishing whistleblowing protection, free speech is still driving whistleblower protection.
> It's not possible to fix information on Wikipedia by using primary sources

You're confusing "original research" (something you've personally researched and have not published elsewhere) with primary sources. Primary sources are absolutely suitable for Wikipedia, it's only original research that is disallowed.