skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> The one group highly unlikely to blame here is web standards bodies

I'm pretty sure I can blame a web standards body for not standardising colour management for the web!

The colour space of embedded images is no longer the only concern, and is not separate from the colours as defined in CSS, SVG, and Canvas to name a few.

Not to mention that even greyscale images need colour management because Macs, PCs, and Televisions all use different gamma curves.

W3C's efforts have been so underwhelming that Apple, the "bastion" of web standards support has been forced to come up with a non-standard extension: https://webkit.org/blog/10042/wide-gamut-color-in-css-with-d...

Of course, their extension supports exactly two colour spaces: sRGB and Display P3, because fuck everyone else who isn't using an iDevice or a Mac, am I right?

If I sound salty, it's because I'm a photographer, and as such it grinds my gears that it is literally impossible to use wide-gamut images on the web for any purpose without degrading quality for a substantial fraction of the viewers. I fully expect this to be resolved satisfactorily some time in the 2030s, perhaps the 2040s. Any decade now...
By what measure are you attributing all of this to any App specifically? What if 60% of the violent offenders were radicalized via Twitter? If this were a court case all of the platforms would be implicated.

On what ground will you stand on to prevent another crypto war? [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_Wars
Of course it's concerning, but it's also concerning how quick people are to dehumanize and call for censorship, putting a lot of energy into discussing endlessly just how evil or stupid or unreachable those other people are, rather than root causes [0]. The mainstream is whipping itself into hysteria just as much as QAnon does, and it really does seem like circus all around. Just for some perspective:

> The capitol has been the site of multiple bombings, shootings, assassination attempts, and stormings for centuries. Pretending its an unbespoiled sacred Church which has never been penetrated so vulgarly is just ahistorical.

-- https://old.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/kt0xpm/in_1954_4...

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiCeqySVhCE&t=20m55s

edit: clicking a button doesn't constitute an argument. You can only ignore Chomsky, neither tie his shoelaces or address his points. Shame on you.
I was there.

Java was never a shiny language. It was many things. It was, most particularly, a ticket out of the world of the Microsoft sharecropper, needing to learn a whole new Microsoft Framework every second year, and discovering over again each time all the shit that didn't work, that couldn't be made to do what it was for, and cobbled-together ways to get around it instead.

I managed to never need to code on Microsoft until a bit around 2010, so missed the appeal.

I was amazed to discover that, even in 2010, nobody who had coded for MS their whole lives knew any better than I did how to get an MS OS to do any sensible thing. I would ask, and they would start rooting, trying random things until something seemed to work. The idea of a documented, stable, standard library component that actually did what it said without crashing was an absolute revelation, but the opposite of every shiny thing imposed on them before.
If you want to kill websites, don't traget the DNS, target the certificates.

If Let's Encrypt bans a site, for example, as well as the other CAs, it is effectively dead.

But there are hundreds of CAs...

Of course, if Google says that of your CA accepts a particular site they will remove you from Chrome...

So this come back to overly centralized systems
Please do not take HN threads further into ideological or nationalistic flamewar.
This is slightly distressing — I’m fascinated by a lot of complicated math concepts that are far above my comprehension level, and Wikipedia is high on the list of places I check.

Do you have any suggestions of better sites to read?
> That's a tough job to be a mod, for sure, but there is also a thing called free speech which grants even lunatics like the scientologists, freedom of, you know, speech. And it doesn't mean 'free speech you agree with'.

And yet, Wikipedia was allowed to ban them when they started to wreak havoc on the site in 2009. And I don't believe it was very controversial, but my memory may be a bit foggy from the years. (Also, being caught up as part of the Anon-mob at the time probably warps my understanding of the events).

> I don't think it's good for the country to derail to this level of totalitarian censorship, even temporary, no matter what yours or mine political beliefs are.

As far as I'm concerned, this is not much different from Hay's Code: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code

Hollywood in the 1930s conspired to censor movies that didn't follow the code. Today, we're seeing that websites that don't follow a code (ie: don't insight violent rhetoric) are open to censorship.

Now I love myself a good pre-code Hollywood flick, and even may find myself oogling at a bit of pornography every now and then. And obviously, the rule against interracial marriage was not very kosher. So I'm certainly happy to be living today rather than in the code-days. But I think you're over-exaggerating for how bad things will be if we go down this path.

--------

Up till now, we lived in the glorious "pre code" days of the Internet. Alas, as we move forward, we understand the power that this new medium holds. And like Hay's of the 1927, we're realizing that we must hold websites accountable.
Do you think that extinguishing the fire of your house burning down helps or hurts the overall situation of arson?
G4S – January 2021 Washington, D.C.,Security Outlook
Published 4th Jan. Not the best security company (see other HN posts) but a fair assessment of what would happened on 6th Jan
I just gave you proof of Twitters unwillingness to remove posts on their platform. I have reported them all months ago. None of them have been removed. There are plenty like this. As long as it suits the left-wing narrative it will be protected.

And don't even get me started on Facebook, Amazon and Instagram. These websites have promoted anti-Hindu content for years now. Keep reporting accounts and none of them are removed. It requires a massive boycott movement to get them to remove hate content. Take this for example:

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/amazon-india-hindu-sy...

"Amazon Takes Down Underwear, Doormat Listings With Hindu Symbols After India Backlash"

Why do they need a backlash to remove something that is obviously egregious?
What do you think an existential threat to the republic would look like?
And what do you think would have happened to Minneapolis or the Portland courthouse or the White House during the summer riots if there had not been a more competent security response? What happened at the Capitol was serious. So was what happened over the summer. But over the summer I heard nothing by "mostly peaceful protests" as literally billions of dollars of damage was caused and numerous deaths were racked up. Captiol protesters break some windows and I hear nothing but "violent rioting insurrectionists".

Back during the summer, Trump being secured in a shelter because of the riot security risk was LAUGHED at by the left. They accused him of being a coward for being taken to a bunker due to the risk of BLM protesters who burned a church across from the White House. Where's the same media laughing at the Congressional representatives fleeing from the people they're supposed to represent?
> Do you want them to police which IP addresses "don't promote insurrection"?

Should've thought of that before repealing net neutrality.
Oh, I disagree a lot of these Leftist websites.

Especially the NYT, they have so much BS and I can almost agree that they are fake news.

But there is a huge difference between BSing and inciting violence.
I do the same. I also say et cetera in my head but E T C to other people, and soo dough in my head but soo do to others.

I wonder how many other people code-switch in this way to try make themselves better understood, when actually we would still understand one another if we just used our internal pronunciation?
I'm already there and don't need this article. If hard work was enough, single parents with jobs would be billionaires.
Wait, I'm missing the connection between this and libertarianism. Libertarians vigorously oppose both antitrust and public interference with private companies. A libertarian looks at what AWS is doing and shrugs: the market will sort this out.
Twitter and FB, for all their failings, appear to basically be operating in good faith (re. removing incitements toward violence). One cannot seriously say that about Parler.
First the came for the fascists and we didn’t say anything... and then they stopped because having more people on their platform is actually good for business. It actually a pretty well balanced situation from a game theory perspective.
Nio, not Tesla, is the better EV stock pick for 2021
I'm not sure what your point is. That sentence is entirely correct with reference to the conspiracy theory - there's no actual conspiracy or "intellectual tendency" to conspire along the posited lines. Marxist cultural analysis is a rather different animal; to be sure, there are genuinely weird interactions between it and e.g. radical Maoist politics/worldviews which push some proponents of either towards an ideological extreme that's somewhat reminiscent of the 'Cultural Marxist' claims ("Destroy the Four Olds!") - but even then, that's a random/contingent political equilibrium; not a willful conspiracy or even a well-defined "intellectual tendency".
I’m interested in the relative CPU costs of encoding, so this doesn’t really address that.

When you say “many” videos are AV1-encoded, it makes me wonder why other videos aren’t AV1-encoded, if supported. Presumably there is some cost/benefit analysis at Google to decide which formats to use, and it is decided that a particular video should not be encoded using AV1 due to the resulting impact on disk/CPU/network usage (more disk, more CPU, less network egress).

I also suppose YouTube has a massive pool of low-priority batch services for transcoding and can do last-minute encoding for unpopular videos / unpopular formats, so YouTube’s tradeoff will not be the same as your tradeoff. I just wonder what the tradeoff is.
Most immigration attorneys would do a quick consult for a flat fee. Find a local one.
Milo who? ;)

(That's a RHETORICAL QUESTION!!! Don't anybody dare answer!!!)
This comment is a mess. The fact that Reddit has banned /r/T_D does not make them liable in any way for what that community migrates to. These people espouse an ideology of "personal responsibility", yet it's Reddit's fault that they are choosing to interact with a more extreme website?
Also ex MS and I recall whack. I also heard a story about a server called paddy, so its shares were whack whack paddy whack.

Never heard bazillion. But many of us used to memorize a bunch of hexadecimal codes and know the symbolic names based on the visual of the hex digits. After repeat lookups the common ones just stay in your brain without effort. The one you shared looks like STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION.
Regardless of the precise definition, it seems quite clear that it ought to include those who organize premeditated violence. This is not exactly a slippery slope.
You're right. And yet, weirdly, it's the people who flew the Thin Blue Line flag who beat a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher. (If this reads like snark, I don't mean it that way; I'm interested in what you think about that observation.)
If this is two oblique of an answer. Consider this. The same principles can be applied in two near identical circumstances and come up with quite different conclusions.

For example, vigilante justice or mafia-led street enforcement activities can be considered criminal acts, even if it would come to the same results and verdicts as a law enforcement operation and/or judicial process.

I don't think anybody is proposing banning police officials because they lawfully "kidnapped and trafficked" someone by arresting them.
The Battle of Taranto preceded Pearl Harbor and was a direct inspiration for it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taranto

Italian battleships were targeted & 3 were disabled.

Also the British tried to sink the Argentinian aircraft carrier during the Falkland War and it escaped preatty much just due to luck.
It’s pronounced similar to schmaltz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmaltz

The trick is one continuous motion of pursing your lips, closing and then opening your mouth as you roll the constants together.
And that’s fine? What if AWS doesn’t like your business and gives you 24 hours to vacate the premises?

I think hosting should be treated like ISPs, which cannot force you out of internet.
I hear ya. It’s not a terribly common consonant cluster. (In fact I think all English words that start with s[c]hm are Yiddish loanwords, but don’t quote me on that.) Try pushing your lips forward before making any sound, and drawing them back+together as you make the sh sound. It’ll come out as a single shm sound.
It is somehow sad that "caring about content quality" is considered SEO and not just making a good website.

I think more than half the things you mentioned are only good SEO because search engines want to send people to websites they will like reading. I think when that is the case, we should be crediting people for making good websites, not good SEO.
Because if there was one thing it wasn't, it wasn't an "existential threat to the republic." Hyperbole like this make it hard to talk about the rest of it reasonably. It was a protest gone off the rails, with a few bad actors, and an embarrasing lack of preparedness by the Capitol Police on that day of all days, given what has been going on all year.
This is a great example of why platforms have so much power. If you look at TFA source, it's designed by someone else. And that dev is shilling for digital ocean, so I'm assuming that's the host. The internet is specializing, and hosting is a very hard specialization.

TFA goes on to talk about how we don't think anymore, and we abdicate our choices to group think. Then they compare the social effect of telephones and FB.

Then they go on to compare social media to an extinction level event. Hyperbole aside, I understand why people are so agitated.

FB has been going for about 18 years now, I don't think this has been what's caused the unrest that we're seeing. Poor living conditions for the bottom half of society has given this legs. Yeah, we can kill of section 230 and make everyone choose from a list of pre-approved messages, but that is not a fix.
Invading and occupying the U.S. capitol with a fatal anti-democratic insurrection seems like a good place to start.
I've always said F S check in my head but never said or heard it on conversation. I started my computer journey with msdos so I think chkdsk is to blame for me saying 'check'.
Cable giants face criticism for enabling the spread of misinformation
The planning wasn't done there, just bloviating. The planning was done on telegram and signal (and to a lesser extent Keybase and wire). Lots of people doing osint on the events could tell you that.

Interestingly, the banning of all these accounts has caused the size of the telegram groups to increase dramatically and the discourse to get much more violent.
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A review of Jimena Canales’ book Bedeviled: A Shadow History of Demons in Science [1]:

> They are not supernatural creatures; rather, they are particular kinds of thought experiments, placeholders of sorts for laws or theories or concepts not yet understood.

[1] https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691175324/be...
Are you suggesting that the mainstream media would lie to you? BANNED!
I’m a staunch Taiwan advocate. But sticking nukes all over the place removes our ability to slow proliferation. And sticking nukes in others’ backyards is, well, impolite.
This comment does not contribute to the discussion, and in fact deliberate conflates a "hot-button" issue to score cheap political points.
Attacking the user:
"IMO, you want to run away to an imaginary world where the events of last Wednesday do not matter"

Agressive tone towards OP:
"I'm not going to let you"

They also edited the comment slightly from what you see now.
If 60% is from Twitter, we eradicate 60%. Good
Is Osama Bin Laden really really bad? Yes. Was he an existential threat to the U.S. He wishes.

Were the mob capable as Osama Bin Laden? Not even close.

Even if they did explode the whole congress building, it is far far far far away from an existential threat to the republic.
Alt right terrorists Steven Carrillo and Robert Justus murdered FPS Officer David Underwood in Oakland during the BLM protests. Steven Carrillo then murdered Sheriff Sergeant Damon Gutzwiller when officers showed up at his house to arrest him.

They also seriously injured another FPS Officer during the first attack.
Its fascinating how these companies think they are fighting against some radical revolutionaries. All the Trump supporters they are scared to death of are ordinary people all over the country. There are not hundreds, or thousands, or tens of thousands. There are tens of millions. Right now this looks like a very small set of scared shitless tech companies and politicians that are overreacting when they finally had to meet people outside their bubble. This will hurt these company's businesses unimaginably. Their uptime whent from 5 nines to no nines.
I’m not sure I understand how the OP supporting mail in voting is relevant.
I submitted my email address and got a prompt to confirm, but no confirmation email came through. Is this what you meant by "not built out." I am sure it is clear to others but I'm so non-techie I could be retro. I could definitely use the help though. I have a bunch of file folders on my laptop that represent a fair few side projects...but I can't build my way out of a paper bag. I need an executioner. Someone who can just execute the basics all day so I run traffic through them and test to see if anyone else finds the idea worthy. I would love a simple, one sheet build guide that tells me what APIs to string together in what order...
"There is no explicit limit to the number of people that can be added to a Signal group chat. However, if the group becomes very large, it can become difficult to manage and you may notice that messages take a bit longer to send."

Seems like it wouldn't bet too hard for it to become a social network.
Please don't parrot Trump's propaganda and talking points here. You're not the judge of who gives a shit about this country.
I recently wondered about the best way to pronounce commands of the `[...]ctl` family, which seem to get omitted from most of these lists I come across. I personally now use "cuttle", but am curious what others say (for example, Kubernetes [1] is one notable exception, search "cube control").

[1] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/blob/master/CHANGEL...
All of the platforms are used to radicalize terrorists. Not just Trump, look at Anwar al-Awlaki or Anjem Chaudhry. All platforms need to work together to eradicate incitement to violence.
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — Hundreds of armed, predominantly Black, activists demanded justice for Breonna Taylor...

Enjoy the photos. Took all of one google search.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation-world/2020/07/25/breonn...
Y'all would probably enjoy Wikipedia's discussions of English phonotactics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonotactics#English_phonotact...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_phonology#Phonotactics

/ʃm/ is not a legal onset in native English. (Let alone /tʃm/, which is how I pronounce "chmod" - two syllables, /tʃə 'mɔːd/.)

"Schmear" is a Yiddish loanword coming from German, where /ʃm/ is perfectly legal. So it's pronounceable by the human mouth, it's just a little awkward for English speakers.

/sm/ and /ʃr/ are both legal in English, so you might think of it as something like those. Can you pronounce "smear" or "shrine" as one syllable?

(I'm not sure /tʃm/ is valid in any language - words or names that start with "chm" seem to be Polish/Russian words transliterating /xm/.)
I got into better shape during lockdown by buying secondhand kettlebells and working with them with my laptop mic muted during conference calls where I'm expected to listen without saying anything.
> owner lets a gang hang out and recruit members and plans crime

Then the thing to do is call the police, not gather a mob to shut down the bar.

If people openly plan violence on Parler, then shutting it down will only make it harder for police to prevent it.
Please stop using HN for ideological battle. We ban accounts that do this. I'm not going to ban you right now because you've been around for many years and have used HN in the intended way in the past. But please stick to the spirit of the site—intellectual curiosity—in the future. We're all responsible for protecting the commons here, no matter how others are behaving.

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If you think about a lisping pronunciation of smoke, sounding like "shmoke", this is how I imagine it would sound. One syllable.

I wonder if the grandparent is French, because I would never have considered to pronounce chmod like this. Then again, I say C H mod and C H own, which apparently isn't the standard pronunciation, so what do I know!
Listen to yourselves in your echo chamber of the left try to justify this. Q-tards and Antifa stormed the capital. The people you so righteously call racist and seditious are not and did nothing of the sort. What Antifa and a few Q-tards did on Jan. 6 doesn't discredit the fact the establishment politicians and our corporate overlords have sold out to China and don't want to be held accountable and would prefer to follow their script to divert attention to the bad orange man's behavior. When Antifa burns multiple cities to the ground they're the good guys but Schumer supposedly "survived pearl harbor" because patriots had their own movement and are trying to remind the actual corrupt politicians they work for us and not the globalists and China trying to keep us all locked down forever, fighting one another.
They are scared. scared shitless.
First, that's clearly not what happened; here's the transcript of the whole call, not a "4 minute clip":

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-...

Second, as you've now been informed (and could have verified with a simple Google search), the call was not privileged, nor was it "confidential" in the sense we ordinarily mean. Disclosing it was perfectly lawful.
Re: #2, when did the violent parts of the BLM protests enter the seat of national government with intent to harm?
> ... it must not censor censorship.

Doesn't this imply that censorship must be allowed for a free society?

Coming to the main point, I think the meaning behind the phrase is that absolute tolerance is not sustainable; a line must be drawn somewhere and yes, we can argue till end of time where that line needs to be drawn as long it is drawn somewhere.
Yes I had the same thought, then I guessed parent might be referring to how wiki doesn't present topics in a way that's easily digestible for someone approaching new topics in math, which I can get behind. It is an encyclopedia after all.
> The western liberal value of free speech has never extended to incitement of violence

Here is the court precedence behind this in the US.

"Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court interpreting the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.[1] The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action""

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio