skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> There were 600,000 to 800,000 people there.

Citation needed.

And what were the differences between these two protests?

What was the purpose of the protests over the summer? What was the purpose of the protest on Jan 6?

It's dishonest to equate the two. Jan 6 protest existed explicitly to overthrow the democratic transfer of power in this country.

Multiple explosive devices were found, guns were found, and the crowd came armed with pepper spray and tasers and clubs. They also were wearing body armor. Your representation of the events of Jan 6 is completely at odds with all the video evidence (and there is a lot of that) that exists.

The murdered a cop, ffs.
"Get a load of this bunch; they do everything with meat! Lets get out of here before they notice us."
Ah right the beacon of society with the trinity of childporn, fascists and misagony.
I'm okay with inconveniencing shitheads. If they are frustrated with how difficult it is to be a shithead, they can always stop being a shithead.
Host it in a different country... But it could of course still get blocked by the US government.
Nazi site The Daily Stormer was infamously dropped by GoDaddy, Google, Tucows, Cloudflare, Namecheap, DreamHost, and various others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Stormer#Site_hosting...

8chan was shut down by Cloudflare, Tucows, Voxility and others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan#August_2019_removal_from...

I'm surprised these sites haven't been disconnected at the BGP level yet; maybe that will happen this year.
Why do you say that? Are there examples of inaccuracies in it's mathematics articles? What do you wish were better about it? What IS better than it?
I'm for su-dough - to my ear it evokes the martial art Judo which makes some kind of sense considering what it does.

On the other hand Soo Doo sounds like a pig farmer's wife calling the swine in for their slop. To my ear ;)
A company cannot fully suppress communications if it does not control the communications medium. There is no company which has a total monopoly on any form of communications in the USA. Material is not effectively made unavailable without total suppression.
With Clearview's history in mind, would people rather live in world with or without facial recognition being used in public?

What are the bounds for such technology and/or companies like Clearview?

Are there quality of life differences in places where facial recognition crime technology is used vs not used?
That's what happens when your commander in chief is a narcissistic liar who creates chaos for his own benefit.

The "most powerful military in the history of the solar system" did not deploy for roughly 4 hours. The rioters were leaving on their own accord when the backup finally arrived.

Maybe you should reconsider your point.

It's also interesting to see how folks will use sarcasm and not speak directly about what they are defending. Do you realize what you are defending?
Not an answer to your question, but a few interesting data points nonetheless:

"From @YouGov poll: among Republican voters, 45% approve of the storming of Capitol, 30% think the perpetrators are 'patriots', 52% think Biden is at least partly to blame for it, and 85% think it would be inappropriate to remove Trump from office after this. This is not a fringe."
https://twitter.com/SMerler/status/1347089854958596098?s=20
> as CEO of a major non profit internet company opposing one of the biggest human rights issues of our time.

Obama, the president of the united states opposed same sex marriage at the time of the donations, as did most americans. I hardly fight it noteworthy considering how widespread it was.
> what are the decisions we want to leave to humans? What decisions do we want to leave to individual humans?

The problem is that to even ask these questions, you must already have an answer to them: you have to know who "we" is.
Every bit as disgusting as the nationwide BLM rioting, looting and arson. Anyone who disagrees is a hypocrite.
Well for starters, realizing it isn't just a lone political assassin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presiden...

Second, if you look at only those with the intention to kill or gravely wound, the numbers are quite comparable.

Third, one of these is an attack on a much softer target and done without any warning, making it a more dangerous threat.
California makes political view a protected class.

In fact, in 1986, the California ACLU sued a restaurant for excluding Nazis, under California anti-discrimination laws.

The restaurant settled.

http://volokh.com/2006/02/24/a-very-strange-but-true-aclu-ca...
Since 2016 I've tried very hard to understand and empathize with the baffling behavior of staunch Trump supporters. Certainly not to support their politics, but to restore some sense of stability to my world view--that people are generally sympathetic. This especially hit home when hearing my wonderful parents' supporting Trump's hateful rhetoric.

I'm now starting to think that his message is in fact too dangerous to even try and rationalize. The people that follow them are feeling something I don't understand, but there's just no excuse to humor them any longer. His rhetoric is tearing us apart, and it needs to end.

For god's sake, the hate needs to end.
Can you build an online business without depending on Google/FB/Amazon/Twitter?
The goal isn't "balance" - it's accuracy. Turns out that's tough for some sides, particularly those that eschew reality, to follow or understand.
> If it’s dead cops you want google 2016 Dallas BLM ambush.

That's not how this works. If you want to persuade me, it's up to you to provide evidence. Telling me to google something doesn't count.

Now, fuck off back to 4chan. You haven't engaged with anybody but me since you created your account, and I don't find your singular focus especially flattering.
Sure, but do we really want to platform to take an active and knowing hand in shaping politics?

Right now they have an effect through algorithms, but their actions don’t seem to be coordinated towards any goal other than increasing engagement with the platform. This is actively different than pitching centrist content to extremists because the platform owners are centrists themselves.

What if the platform owners become extremists like Parler?
> "Remember the case where someone got millions for spilling hot coffee on himself?"

Often trotted out as an example of frivolous litigation, you're likely referring to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restau...

> "Stella Liebeck, a 79-year-old woman who suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region"

> "Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her actual and anticipated expenses. Her past medical expenses were $10,500; her anticipated future medical expenses were approximately $2,500; and her daughter's loss of income was approximately $5,000 for a total of approximately $18,000"

McDonald's offered $800. Liebeck retained an attorney. After continuing to refuse to settle, the jury ultimately awarded $160,000 to cover expenses, and $2.7M in punitive damages.

If you want to argue the personal responsibility angle for the $20,000, you're entitled to your opinion. The millions were not what she personally was asking for.
Because in trying to imagine the worst possible outcome, I still see no way Joe Biden is not sworn in on January 20. I grant you some of the people there may have been under delusions that they could stop it, but it wasn't going to happen. I mean god forbid they killed the VP or the Speaker. The rest of the Congress, the military, the states, are all going stand aside and say "OK well, nothing we can do now, it's President Trump for life!"
Two sentences later:

> The command line tools are orders of magnitude faster

and from the previous sentence:

> Encoding AVIF takes a long time in general, but it's especially bad in Squoosh because we're using WebAssembly, which doesn't let us use SIMD or multiple threads
Ok, agree partially. I mostly meant privacy rather than security. What i wanted to say: iOS is nowadays famed for siding with the user (gateway process to weed out bad/malicious apps), restricting tracking and giving the user more control over what data is shared and so on. 3rd party stores would change that. Security could also be impaired by 3rd party stores neglecting to police malicious apps (eg. compare to some android 3rd party stores that often host pirated apps piggybacking malicious code). Likewise, apps on iOS 3rd party appstores might act maliciously (copying your credentials during auth in an embedded browser etc)

I also dont like what Apple did to Tumblr when they had to change their content policy and how BigTech generally projects US values onto the world (eg. nudity).

PS: I trust Android's F-Droid store more than the PlayStore due to its strong gateway process (anti tracking, pro privacy, FOSS only).
and no one has said that parlor has to shut down. if you agree with the train of thought that if twitter doesn't want you go and start your own, then you apply that same logic to Apple and Google saying they don't want parlor.
Most of the people there (including many who entered the building) were clearly not intending or prepared for violence.
And you can take this pattern even further back than Reddit. This is no different than the early 90s when everyone hung out in #warez on EFnet, even though very few people were actually involved in the warez scene. That being said, there were always a few true stars lurking in there. I got recruited from there to join private servers as a cracker in serious warez groups of the day. My point is, the social internet hasn't changed in 30 years and we shouldn't be surprised :)
Yeah I agree.

But de-platforming the radicalizing accounts is an effective way to de-racalize.
Self driving toy car that uses deep learning and comes with a web app for data collection (driving with a PS3 controller), data cleaning, model training, and model deployment: https://github.com/RyanZotti/Self-Driving-Car

I’ve been working on this for 5 years, and it has hundreds of GitHub stars, but it will probably always be half baked. I also haven’t had a chance to commit code in awhile
"A riot is the language of the unheard" ~ Martin Luther King Jr

In this one instance, I hope he was wrong.
I mean, anyone who has ever edited wikipedia can tell you. If you restrict your sources to ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT and friends, your article is going to read like a mainstream media story. And as the media gets more and more hysterical that starts to reflect on the quality of their articles.
Most content creators need to be compensated to continue making content. Advertising isn't the only solution but it does allow viewers to watch without paying.

PeerTube needs content creators to get on board. Having options for monetizing content could encourage creators to use PeerTube.
I had an idea for a library that follows log files and triggers some events that can be defined through python code. I used it for one task at work and gave up on figuring out how to structure it since.

The idea is that it allows you to verify and test logging, which is an odd concept but helps ensure that things are predictable and consistent.

https://github.com/arvind-iyer/logan/
Wikipedia is incredible. I find it frustrating when friends say it's unreliable/not to be trusted.

Of course it's not perfect, but I've learned plenty enough from it to be well worth the trade-off
And Trump got absolutely pilloried for having that troop presence at the time.
More speech is what got us here in the first place
I agree. Something that would help would be focusing on dealign with saboteurs and small unit attacks, and making it difficult to hold the island thorough guerrilla warfare. There is no indication that they are doing that.

Even more effective for China is to simply invest a few billion Dollars into bribing politicians. Some would argue that this has already been done with the KMT. They can also put pressure on the owners of the first generation of factories in China, which tend to be related to KMT. They will give up Taiwan in order to keep their business.
>Man you deleted the part about the leftist straw man lol!!

I deleted it because I didn't want to muddy my argument - I had a feeling you would focus on my critique of the video and avoid addressing my actual argument (which you did). I stand my critique of the video being a strawman, but ultimately I think it is irrelevant to the argument I was making.

Unfortunately, whenever I make this argument free speech "absolutists" are unable to answer or resort to circular arguments. If you do still standby your original statement, I hope you will consider the implications of such a statement which imply you are also willing to defend child pornographers from censorship.
> If Yelp picks the restaurants for me enough, I stop having nuanced preferences about restaurants. That energy expenditure is no longer needed for survival and reproduction. Dump those neurons. Over time people stop caring about the tiny details of what the difference is between a good and a great restaurant. Yelp handles that.

I think there's a distinction that's being glossed over, here: people can be desirous of eating at some restaurants more than others because of the results, but no longer pay attention to what those restaurants have in common -- what the underlying reasons are for the outcome at those restaurants that they prefer. Something which helps decide where to eat would ideally highly rate restaurants you'd enjoy, while not requiring you to learn specific details about the preparation of really excellent food.

I disagree with the assertion that letting a rating service choose the restaurant (or a list of restaurants of the highest rating) will result in not having desires about the experience at that restaurant, but I think "nuanced preferences" in the initial sentence must mean "knowing a lot about the kind of restaurants I like", instead.
Websites, RSS feeds, and email. Anybody who can't figure out how to run their own website can just do without. Social networking was a mistake. Human relationships and identity are not things that can be reduced to third normal form and stored in a database.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/31/meet-the-rioting-crimin...

This information is not hard to find.
I think those are useful distinctions. Not everyone in that crowd was rioting. This was an important distinction I feel was lost during the BLM protests as well: Any given media narrative wanted to paint the people involved as all one thing or another.

The truth is it's all mixed. I look at this also as a failure for a movement to generate leaders with a clear strategic vision that in turn guides participants with consistent boundaries. When, instead, the feeling is simply "anger" without a specific plan for channeling it usefully, you get people doing their own thing, others following along, etc.
Well, it's not provable whether or not something has qualia... but I will grant that if something can fool others into thinking it is sentient, and someone who believes in its sentience inflict harm upon it, it is still sadistic.
"Fairness" is the enemy of accuracy in cases like this.
This is interesting information, I have not read this. I'm curious about how you acquired this knowledge?

How did you determine their intent to shoot a congressman? Which congressman was targeted? How detailed were their plans to shoot a congressman? How did you uncover their plans?

On the death: did this person start having a heart attack, and then their gun went off and that was the cause of death? How did you determine the sequence/cause of death for this individual? Were you present? Or read it on the internet? If internet, what site(s) did you use?

Sorry for all the questions, just naturally interested in different epistemological standards people have!
Hate crimes and the related seem to involve a very small tiny amount of people dedicated to the cause of genocide and a revolving door of a much larger contingency who is susceptible to in the moment but eventually decides it's too extreme, not for them, etc and killing people of a religious group/racial group/political ideology doesn't achieve their goal of the other group actually isn't trying to kill them.

The exact same arguments were made for info wars when they were banned. There was a big jump in numbers the first couple weeks and when they could no longer recruit the susceptible they disappeared from all serious discussions of conservative view points. Elimination of bad faith arguments doesn't actually amplify those views on timescales that actually matter.
That will possibly be demotivating, yes. However now that the habit has stuck with me and progress is more like weekly, I have integrated it into my identity. As in, I am the guy who always goes to the gym on these days and does these exercises. I am now someone who "goes to the gym".

Once something is part of your identity, the ability to maintain it is surprisingly easy. For example some people have ingrained preferences that are identity-based, eg vegetarian, non-drinkers, non-smokers, non-soda drinkers, etc. It's easy for those people to avoid those things as it is part of their identity. Or habits that are part of someone's identity like "the person who always makes the coffee" or "the person who always takes the stairs". For you, it might just be "I'm a runner, so I run."

I will also say that while it was never an initial goal of mine, the vanity/esteem aspect of feeling stronger/in better shape than others my age still is motivating.
I agree! Ethereum is already to big and too expensive to use. I hold a lot but worry about both BTC and Ethereum. Normal people can no longer use either chain for everyday transactions and at this rate Ethereum will never work as a global computer. To me only Bitcoin Cash and Monero really have their use cases and code sussed out. Sia (and filecoin) work great but both have issues with their insentives, in Sia's case they issue too many coins and it's not profitable to host content.
Actually MEMRI has been quoting some of these Palestinian activists, and has been censored by youtube in return: https://www.memri.org/reports/youtube-censors-memri-removes-...
I think this event falls under the sort of unknowable that Wall Street can’t immediately price. Or there’s more information about it still to drop and that will break the market. It’s also clearly got some crazy amplification factors pumping prices very high up. It can be hard for the pumping function to be overcome even by huge events.

Now go say your daily 10-“0 Fed rate forever” prayers or the market might tank on the decreased faith.
[..] Sentience is the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively.[..]

So yes..robots can be sentient.
Idk, as a user blocking all autoplay sounds great to me.
Just build your own country. Oh wait, don't do that!
Facebook was amazing before it allowed you to see strangers' comments and before news was in your feed.

My feed ("timeline" at the time) was composed entirely of friends' personal life updates, conversations, jokes, etc. There was political stuff, but nothing more extreme than you'd hear at a party.

The news in the feed famously killed all of that. The worst part is that it would show you your friends at their most extreme, for example responding to rage-bait articles

It's not hard to build a great social network, but it's extremely hard to monetize one.
And you attest that malatov-throwing, firework shooting, armed, arsonist actors in Summer 2020 wouldn't do the same?

A huge protest with high emotions does mob justice. No surprises there.
It's only a matter of time before this project gets a cease & desist from Disney.

(Disney owns 20th Century Studios, formerly 20th Century Fox, owner of the Terminator franchise.)
I don't support it either.

However, this entire thread is a discussion on justfying the "deplatforming" by tech giants to uphold democracy.

Why these giants act so one-sided is my confusion.
Edgelords on this site love a Bernie dig about as much as they love hating on JavaScript comparators.
It's not just about whether Biden becomes President on the 20th. Because there's not really any way they could have stopped that. It's about how much further that could have escalated extremism and violence.
Just an anecdote, but those are the top 2 and only 2 things I know him for. Didn’t know (or at least remember) that he created Brave or was involved with Mozilla. I’d be willing to bet that, indeed, those are the top 2 things he is known for.
No mob has gathered to shut down Parler, so I’m not really sure where that fits in (ironic, though, since people are using Parler to plan literal mob attacks).

Parler’s business partners are abandoning it, sure, but that’s by no means a “mob”. It’s much more akin to the bar’s suppliers refusing to sell it ingredients for drinks, if we want to stick with this analogy.
I think there’s a legitimate question as to whether you’re just making this up on the spot because you’re angry, or if there’s any actual evidence of this that you’d care to share.
> But I've not seen any violence toward other people.

Goodness, then you haven't been looking very hard. Perhaps you haven't seen this? https://youtu.be/cJOgGsC0G9U?t=1224

The NYTimes also ran this story today: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/us/pelosi-threat-Clevelan...

> Is that some kind of sick joke? Al Qaeda burns people to death in metal cages.

Hate groups in the US have a long history of committing heinous murders and lynchings. Here's one such example which seems on par with your description of burnings in metal cages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Jesse_Washington

I don't doubt that there are members of hate groups in the US today that would commit such acts and that many of them are among Trump's most avid supporters; probably even among those that broke into the Capitol Wednesday. Let's please not pretend like that kind of violence isn't possible in Trump's America.

Let's also not forget Trump's own personal legacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump#1927_arrest
The Web Has No Design Standards
https://arweave.org has some options
So this video from that day of a man inside the capitol calmly convincing a police officer to go home because there's thousands of people surrounding the building? Is he a Q-Tard or is he Antifa?

https://youtu.be/lhjRXO72v1s?t=314
Wow... really? This is shocking to me. Where do you typically get information about stuff that everyone else goes to Wikipedia for?
How did the squats hurt your elbow? :(
I fail to see the critical distinction between refusing to associate and refusing to engage with, or how the freedom of association can be upheld without the ability to refuse such engagement.

We must provide social media services with protected freedoms, or we risk impinging upon the freedoms of its users. Users must be free to choose social media which allows them to _not_ associate or communicate with those they do not wish to. Nor should we compel them to support speech that they do not wish to, for similar reasons.

If your concern is whether certain legal speech may be effectively completely deplatformed, then may I suggest the solution is federated social networking and not to impugn the freedom of association.
Lots of people opposed it at the time. That’s pretty much required in order for it to be one of the biggest human rights issues at the time.
Better put your cash in some kind of asset because inflation is about to go through the roof.
For years these platforms have been getting rid of Islamist content. And thats a good thing. How is this any different? Is it because it is so close to home? Probably.