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Ok by your logic when the Young Turks blame the BLM riots on the republicans they should also get banned, right? It should work both ways not just when conservatives make such statements.

Edit: I like how I get downvoted but everyone is too scared to actually reply on this.
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> but the idea that Joe Biden is going to suddenly start doing China's bidding is ridiculous. What does he gain from doing it? The risk/reward is terrible.

To protect his son. The CCP has all kinds of video on Hunter, who's a drug addict.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/how-...

> As with everything Trump accuses anyone of,

It's not Trump making the accusations here. It's the DOJ and U.S. Senate Committee, documentation and emails on his laptop, as well as Hunter's former business partner.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-inv...

https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep...

Seriously, why are you defending the Bidens? The Democrats spent 4 years making baseless treason charges against Trump via the Mueller probe, while the Bidens had just moved a billion dollars around for them and the CCP. Are you really that partisan that you would sell out America?

Virtually every leftist comment on HN is contradicted with online evidence deliberately skipped by the MSM.
And CNN always tells the truth, right?
Doesn't Steve Bannon already have an entire media network he helped build, Breitbart? He can post his podcast there.
> Perhaps the people who were looting commercial districts would have looted the Capitol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
> What changed? The US Capitol riots is the specific moment that made them all wake up?

Why shouldn't it be?

For 4 years they said "we won't suspend a sitting president because we recognize our role in society but once Trump's not sitting he's fair game for bans"

I mean POTUS threatened nuclear war on their _social media platform_ and they let it go...

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It's quite simple, allowing sitting POTUS special privileges was a means to avoid limiting the reach of the American leadership to its people.

Well now Trump's a lame duck, and he was abusing the sitting president loophole to turn social media into a lightning rod for groups like the one that stormed the Capitol...

The math must have been very simple for them: give him 12? more days of increasing unhinged antics when he's already supposed to have started transitioning power... or don't.

tl;dr: It's no conspiracy that he was deplatformed right before the end of his term, the combination of the Capitol attack being triggered by him and the fact he was already on his way out was all it took.

You ascribe the timing part to greed, but it's even more easily easily ascribed to not wanting to censor the POTUS if possible while they're in power...

Donald Trump didn't suddenly become less profitable to Twitter after the Capitol attack, if anything he would have been more profitable. Note his "usual" account isn't even the POTUS handle, so it wouldn't have been affected by Biden's take over.
You can sue for defamation. We need similar laws for politicians (yellow cake WMD claims) and news media (Fox News blatant lies) where the people responsible are legally liable for what they say if they can't prove the veracity of their claims in court and/or if what they say turns out to be fabricated. Jail time is a must in this case. You can't have free speech without honest speech.
+ 1 trillion reddit gold.
Jail time for execs.
I'm curious how uncensorable this really is. If there's no moderation and there are posts violating FOSTA/SESTA, I'm pretty sure someone is going to be having a talk with their domain registrar at minimum.

They're running on AWS (ask Parler how that's working out) and their contact is a gmail address, this seems like the opposite of uncensorable.

Their github repo mentions "A host with good capacity and DDOS protection would be helpful to the project," which I'm assuming means it's also extremely vulnerable to DDOS.
Organizing an unruly mob to target people in every aspect of their life will inevitably result in death just as much as cutting off their head will.
There's an optimzation I'm aware of where nix will de-duplicate individual files with hard links. This wouldn't be safe in almost any other context, but is safe with nix because the files are immutable. So you have have 100 variations of libcurl and only "pay" for the unique files.
That is a good point, and is indeed the case. However, oil requires trading a tangible good, which makes it less efficient than the Bretton Woods system where money was simply infinite.
You still need a government that can get out of it's own way, legislatively, while still providing an environment (or the right incentives for one) where business can and does get done.
These things don't work anymore. They recently passed a law that says all exchanges must report everything that flows through them, and that's just the beginning. If you think those cute stories like selling virtual cats to an anon will work in the future, you're being naive. The government has made it clear what their intent is. They will be regulating crypto circulation through on/off ramps, and every user of those exchanges must do KYC and report where they spent their money. If they do things like what you said, it will now legally be classified as money laundering.
The world is backward... my friends that are poor vote republicans and the companies that benefit from the republicans shit on them.
Long term morbidity?
What part of "peer-to-peer" and "off-grid" is made better by allowing a third party to choose which people can and cannot use the platform?

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Either you build a fully decentralised platform where humans self-moderate by selecting which communities they participate in, or you create a walled garden that you moderate but that becomes more centralised when you do so.
Why would anyone care about using a p2p nonstandard messenger except for free speech? This app implies it will moderate certain groups. If you’re saying something uncontroversial you can just use a bigtech app.
The clients are all open source, so you can compile the code on your own machine.
Did Parler break the law? Or just their users?

In either case, is Amazon acting on legitimate orders from law enforcement, or are they taking the law into their own hands?

Other than your comment, I've yet to hear anyone imply this is a legal, rather than a moral, matter.

Edit: I see this is the Stripe thread, not the AWS/Parler thread. I agree Trump has broken the law, though it is true that even criminals have regular bank accounts that don't get cancelled as soon as they're accused. Same thing applies, Stripe was not acting on a law enforcement request. It's vigilante justice, even if it's on the right side of history. I don't like the precedent.
If you want to do this more discreetly and in the old-fashioned manner, probably the fastest thing would be to contact your state's attorney general or equivalent.
Please forgive me if I misunderstand but you are unwilling to let go of the kind of system/society you are in: "it's not a tradeoff I'm happy to do."

However, that very society/system has made a tradeoff that they will maintain a certain level of taxation which would allow them to maintain a certain level of services.

This does not seem realistic.
CNN ran with the Russia collusion story for almost 4 years straight. However when it was found out that Biden is meeting with Chinese companies or Hunters laptop they are extremely silent.
My past work is Very much this.

Edit: details. Our devops allies itself with management and kept “business secrets” from developers. It was abbhorant to witness. I eventually introduced functionality into the devops tools and openned it to developers and got bullied (2nd edit: by my own team and management, i was soft bullied: silence treatments, secret meetings without me, lies, etc. i was junior. My own confession: i did the work without discussing it with the team after being told “fuck the devs” by a senior.) to quit.
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Of course if you can be pinpoint, objectively accurate with your censorship of "calls for violence" then that's great (not being sarcastic). But the world doesn't really work that way.

There is always a line between black and white that some human has to look at and decide "yeah this is ban-worthy" or not. Sometimes it's obvious - sometimes it's not so much.

One example: remember that "documentary" "Loose Change" that came out after 9/11 and questioned if it was an inside job? I watched it out of curiosity at the time. It was later debunked - but if it had been just immediately removed from every site and nearly impossible to watch I think that could have had a reverse effect. Instead I was able to evaluate the details (or "misinformation", in some cases) from both sides.

So, I believe the previous poster is implying there are always going to be subjective, biased, and sometimes morally questionable issues that arise when censoring information across multiple major platforms - similar to the issue of allowing encryption vs banning it. If you could ban encryption only for child pornography distribution purposes then yes that would be great, but unfortunately that comes at a cost (and it's not like people/politicians haven't tried to do just that).

I don't think we have stepped into full great firewall of China level censorship or anything, but this is a step in that direction - for better or for worse.
It'd be an interesting twist in the simulation if the entities were materialized/determined only when the chest^H^H^H^H^H^H truck was examined.
There's clearly a line in the sand to be made somewhere here e.g. funding child pornography or terrorism. The easy answer for Stripe is "we ban any account that promotes illegal activity". In that sense, I can see the rationale of banning a political campaign that has clearly fomented an attempt at circumvent a legal civil process.
I think you are misinterpreting the article. Whether you are Apple or not, you have to prioritize.

If you are doing 2 features, and cannot both well enough, then it's better to do one (important) extremely well and one (less important) just to get by, than do two mediocre features. In the former case, you will get at least some happy users who will talk about you and hopefully get you more sales. In the latter case, nobody would vouch for you and mediocrity will drive you into oblivion.
LOVE THIS. So cool. How'd you build it?
This can be carried too far. Every business now has a director or consultant whose job is to chart the company's progress towards becoming a software business. This can have any number of effects:

1. It's not a slam dunk that software development is an asset to a business. Entire books have been written on how to keep software projects from eating your business alive. Many software businesses fail.

2. The hardware people notice that they're being treated as second class citizens, and wander away. Remember, the best leave first, including the people who fully understand how your product works.
All Nazi books should be burnt since we don't want certain information existing in the world. I actually think rounding up all Nazis and putting them in labor camps might be okay. Heck, what about actually killing nazis? Is there some kind of political idealogy where taking these actions against minorities is supported and allowed?
No need to sue if you can just ban your opponent from the internet.
I never ever heard anyone say that their grievances aren't real and that they are only motivated by racial hatred. I distinctly remember after Trump won the first election that all the talk on the left was about disenfranchised voters in mid-America vs coastal elites. I'm sure you remember that too. That does not backup your assertion in fact it refutes it. That they are all also racists is a different topic.
Because the definition of Nazi is applied so liberally that Winston Churchill himself would receive the label from those who use it in today's discourse.
The problem is that the pro-censorship crowd is openly using the internal open communication channels with full support and engagement from both HR and upper management.

Having numbers doesn't equate to having equal or greater power.
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Sure it has, Apple has no reason to adopt Linux on their consumer devices, in fact they are slowly moving away from POSIX, e.g. new networking stack.

And then I gave the list of the companies with very deep pockets that have any reason to ever bother having a Desktop Linux of some form.
> We need to deeply think about all this - allowing peaceful, objective, conservative opinions and policy (such as the Lincoln Project) while condemning hate speech, violence, white supremacy and other racist behavior.

But that’s the problem. Nobody trusts people in Silicon Valley or New York City to decide what those things are. These are people who have internalized ideas like “you can’t be racist against white people” which the vast majority of the country doesn’t share. And they certainly will not apply the same standards to people on the left glorifying violent radicals like Angela Davis. We just saw this happen this summer where the center-left media pretended for months that American cities weren’t on fire.

Your example proves the point. The Lincoln Project are basically fiscally conservative Democrats at this point. They’re not meaningfully conservative on any of the issues that matter to conservatives today: religious liberty, preservation of history, immigration, etc. And it’s not just an American thing. These issues are actually where the US right is increasingly aligned with the European center-right. Censors in NYC and SF would have censored a bunch of stuff people like France’s Macron have been saying lately.
That's true, as soon as a large enough group of people act offended by something, AWS and big tech are required to censor them, in case people get a bad case of the "WRONG" opinion.
This exactly. I'm even in favor of saying "ok, you had your chance to get the vax, we got 200 doses left. Give em to the first 200 people in line." I hate to say it, but it's almost got to be run with a little more chaos. Almost like how I would envision how decisions in wartime with scarce resources and a time crunch would be made. At a certain point, it doesn't matter who's arms its going into, it just needs to get into peoples arms, and asap. period.
The looting and rioting after the George Floyd incident (as a separate event from the peaceful protests) were not limited to commercial districts. Across multiple cities, government buildings and police stations were vandalized/looted. In an extreme case, in Portland, the federal courthouse was set on fire.

Also, the post-George-Floyd looting/rioting persisted for far more than a day. An example is the CHOP zone in Seattle, which lasted for 3 weeks before protesters were forcibly removed.

This doesn't absolve the Capitol Hill rioters either, but simply describing the BLM looting "looting commercial districts" downplays the amount of damage done. In my opinion, I think reasonable questions to ask are: over what period of time did the violence persist, what amount of value was destroyed, and how many lives were claimed during the looting.
As long as it is decentralised, the AWS thing shouldn't be a problem. It didn't seem to be for Diaspora.
The author, Ben Smith, was the editor-in-chief of Buzzfeed News before he worked for the NY Times. The subject of the story worked for Smith at Buzzfeed and last week was in the U.S. Capitol during the insurrection. I found this part most moving and telling:

If you haven’t had the experience of posting something on social media that goes truly viral, you may not understand its profound emotional attraction. You’re suddenly the center of a digital universe, getting more attention from more people than you ever have. The rush of affirmation can be giddy, and addictive. And if you have little else to hold on to, you can lose yourself to it.

Even as we sought to make our work spread at BuzzFeed, we faced constraints — by truth in our news division, by hewing to a broadly positive set of values on our entertainment side. But Mr. Gionet ultimately broke loose of those boundaries, seeming to follow the signals he found on social media without any scruple. The only through line was his desire to build an audience. He was boosting Bernie Sanders before he was chanting anti-Semitic slogans in Charlottesville, Va., then temporarily recanting those extreme views and later committing violent crimes to get views on YouTube. He built an audience among coronavirus deniers and then, when he apparently contracted the disease, posted the screenshot of his own positive test to Instagram with a tearful emoji. A few weeks later, he joined the pro-Trump uprising in the Capitol.

“His politics have been guided by platform metrics,” reflected Andrew Gauthier, who was a top video producer at BuzzFeed and later worked for Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s presidential campaign. “You always think that evil is going to come from movie villain evil, and then you’re like — oh no, evil can just start with bad jokes and nihilistic behavior that is fueled by positive reinforcement on various platforms.”

And so Mr. Gionet’s story isn’t quite the familiar one of a lonely young man in his bedroom falling down a rabbit hole of videos that poison his worldview. It’s the story of a man being rewarded for being a violent white nationalist, and getting the attention and affirmation that he’s apparently desperate for.

We spent a lot of time at BuzzFeed thinking about how to optimize our content for an online audience; he optimized himself.
Yes, the "left" represented by the Democratic party /s.

Every single thing you've listed is controlled by capital, not by the left. Tech, Hollywood/Media, Social Media, News, and payment processing. Academia is a very partial exception (google "Koch brothers university funding").

Do you think that any of the organizations that constitute these groups are run by social activists? These are overwhelmingly multinational corporations. They care about nothing but profit and the preservation of the status quo. They will appropriate rhetoric about identity politics insofar as it is a good marketing strategy, but they never make a move which is not motivated by their bottom line, which is why none of the tech giants acted against Trump until he threatened the orderly continuation of the system in which they're all invested.

"Left" media is a tiny, powerless fraction of the media. MSNBC and CNN toe the line of the DNC, a right-wing clique that represents only the interests of finance capital, and which, because it has comprehensively rejected any project of improving people's lives in any material way, has been forced into a politics of performative culture war posturing. Any leftist challenge to the status quo can be quelled by capital's complete capture of the media apparatus and government.

When you say "the left", it's very clear you mean social progressives, and nothing else. You're conflating co-opted woke capitalism with leftism, the same way countless liberals do.

You are however, absolutely correct about the coming repression that will be directed against the populace. It will be mostly directed against the left, as has always been the case, but we will definitely begin to see greater brutality in general as the overall immiseration and precarity of the average person continue to ratchet upwards.

In tandem with this, we'll see ever-increasing social policing of culture-war nonsense, as the social unrest continues to play out in a make-believe symbolic realm completely detached from material reality. People will of course continue to believe that it's "the authoritarian left" or "the bigoted right" that is ultimately to blame, depending of which flavour of news media they consume, missing the symbiotic relationship between two parties that both represent nothing but the short-term financial interests of capital.
What’s even funnier is that they apparently consider a support ticket to be valid service.
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Temporary emergency measures don't make a totalitarian government. For that matter, similar measures were temporarily taken and then rescinded in the past; proof of non-totalitarianism. Further proof is minority governments and recent changes in governing parties. Totalitarian governments don't have these.

I think further burden of proof on wether Canada is a totalitarian state reasonably falls on those who believe it is. It seems reasonable to accept that Canada isn't totalitarian as a premise, when I say that some restrictions on freedom of speech don't inevitably lead to totalitarianism.
The more cable news you watch the stupider you get. You can actually feel your IQ dropping minute by minute as you watch Fox or MSNBC. They aren't there to make you more informed, their sole purpose is to say whatever will keep you engaged long enough to sell you deodorant, prescription pharmaceuticals and pickup trucks. They are a Dunning-Kruger effect generator. Whenever someone mentions something they saw on CNN last night my opionion of them drops.

The good news is that your cognitive function is not permanently lost, it can be quickly recovered by just turning off the TV and reading a book, playing with the dog or going on a long walk.
Keep in mind the quote was about Nazis. Being able to stay friends with a Nazi is not something many people can do, such as non-whites and non-christians.

Trying to change the mind of someone who believes you deserve to die is painful at best and not worth the time.
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It's a nice sentiment, but it's not always true.

Case in point: none of the algorithmic improvements to matrix-multiplication has had any real effect on deep-learning etc (except Winograd convolution).