skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think HN is more likely to have overlap with Mastodon and other federated networks. Most of us that seem to be arguing in support of Parler are really just worried about arbitrary and authoritarian approaches to content moderation and infrastructure.

HN is for discussing ideas even when they do not affect us directly.
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You might of missed a small fact, it was Thomas J. Watson, Jr. who fired Conway. As in the son of Thomas J. Watson the recipient of the Nazi medal.

[IBM Apologizes for Firing Computer Pioneer for Being Transgender 52 Years Later] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25146271

Picture of daddy chilling with Hitler https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/punched-cards/2/1...
Amcrest IP2M-841B. This works the best of the three I've tried.

The other two:

The cheap Wyze cameras which special software that gives access to the RTSP stream, but the stream is so jerky it creates too many false alarms to be useful. If you just want to have a cheap security camear, though, these Wyze cameras are fun.

I've also tried using a Reolink camera with Neolink to get at the RTSP stream, but it wasn't super stable. Missing frames. I wonder if that's because my laptops are old and slow. I don't know.

I've also tried using a Raspberry Pi with a camear. Get the camera that you can focus. Here's a video I got with the that combo https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rMmap4fWgj8iTAYCo5eNaTDMLlO...
Using this script: https://github.com/ctrager/opencv_py/blob/master/hummingbird...
This has to be up there with the Bible as one of the most misreferenced book in recent years.
This isn't for work, but I do know that a lot of schools (study groups, clubs, etc...) are using discord, because they have a lot of the same features, and are relatable to anyone under the age of 25.
No, not 'they're going to', but it's possible that it may happen and the fact that people don't care and just shrug this off (or even say that this is how it should be!) scares me.
Well there you go, thank you, I appreciate it.
It comes down to what you favor more: free speech or property rights. Property rights? Then clearly any company can remove any content for any reason it sees fit.

If you favor free speech I would say plotting to kill the Vice President of the United States and ISIS recruitment aren't meaningfully different.
> I mean we just got done watching Trump get labeled a terrorist merely for having a political rally.

I've been to political rallies. They don't typically involve storming government buildings and forcing elected officials to evacuate. If people are going to try to overthrow the government, it really ought to be for better reason than that a washed-up reality TV host can't accept the fact that he must settle for only getting one term as President of the United States.
Does ISIS still have twitter accounts? I know that Twitter is probably keeping many accounts active even thought they break their rules because the Alphabet Agencies have requested it.

The agencies don't need Trumps account active and Twitter wants to please the Biden camp. Getting rid of Section 230 scares the shit out of them.
that's how all forums are. For example I frequent r/quant and the vast majority of people aren't quants and instead high school students asking how to become a quant. it's pretty annoying

If someone made a reddit like site where you had to prove qualifications to get into certain forums, I think it would have the potential to do really well.
HNs algorithm has an anti-controvosy factor in it [0]. I expect having more comments than upvotes means the algorithm handles it harshly.

[0] eg, discussed 2010 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1781013
Majority think Boris Johnson should resign as prime minister
The left is still in favor of breaking these companies up.
The various "big provider X boots conservative platform/person Y" are all popping on and off the front page fairly quickly. The comments are mostly what you would predict.
Saying shit like Parler itself will then be unmasked as a major false flag operation perpetrated by antifa and well-known long-con artists "BLM"

and then saying

I'm half-joking, half-serious, but I'm not sure which half is which at this point

is the type of shit that needs to be flagged. Leave that kind of trash on Parler.
Yep still funny too
> Not without the use of threads, which brings a host of other issues.
Back End for Front End Pattern (BFF)
They certainly do have a right to their beliefs. I would like them better if they had a narrow focus of U.S. Police overstepping their bounds, and the mistreatment of black people in the U.S. I agree completely that that's a problem.

But they've expanded their agenda beyond that, and muddled their goals.
Indeed, and this can be a problem with "audiophile" gear that is sometimes built with exceptional craftsmanship but not necessarily designed with the best electrical performance in a mainstream sense. For instance if someone believes they must experience a feedback-free Class-A amplifier, well, yes they're going to have some thermal drift and poor power supply noise rejection. that can be hard to replicate. ;-)

Good mainstream designs take component tolerances into account, and it's worth remembering that a 1% variation is a tiny fraction of a dB.
I think this kind of thing is over-emphasized.

Most advertisers probably already understand that the person being exposed to their content for a brief moment isn't under the impression that the ad doesn't mean strong endorsement of the content by the advertiser.
Good.

If corporations are people then they absolutely should have the right to exercise whatever free speech they want to.

Nobody is preventing those deplorables to say whatever the hell they want, but also nobody is obliged to provide services and platform to those people to spread those toxic messages.

According to /r/conservative the entire tech industry is ran by leftists, and leftists are stupid, unemployed losers who live in their moms' basements. So it should be easy for them to recreate their entire own tech infrastructure to host whatever nuclear waste dumpster fire app they want, after all it should be very easy for "smart, hardworking real Americans" like them. Hey, capitalism is all about competitions right? Last time I checked there may even be some money involved in the tech industry so I'm actually a little puzzled why they haven't done so already.

If you think I sound like a smug douchebag in this comment that's because it's exactly how I feel from reading these news these past few days.
Disclaimer: I have never used Parler.

But I firmly believe in the principle of free speech and not stifling discourse.

And no, not just over Parler. But maybe over Twitter bannings. And Facebook bannings. And Parler. And deplatforming. Eventually people will build their own internet you can't control, and continue to talk. How will you feel about that? Let's say for sake of argument that that occurs, that a whole segment of society builds their own hardware infrastructure that the tech giants do not control and cannot shut down. What would you want to happen?
> When I was 11 years old I learnt to program starting with text based games in Turbo C++ or something.

I suspect those of us who grew up during the era when the games you wanted to play as a kid were Colossal Cave, Pong, Zork, and Space Invaders - had it _so_ much easier than kds today. The path for an 11 year old to get from from telling the computer:

10 PRINT "HELLO WORLD!"

20 GOTO 10

to a playable/fun game, for me, was not an inconceivable journey at the time.

These days, I wonder if expectations of Minecraft/Roblox/Fortnite/CallOfDuty/CyberPunk2077 (or whatever 11 year old kids are playing these days) have made the path from "Hey, I can make this computer print out some text" to "I could make my own computer game" much less straighforward or conceivable?

As a kid in the late 70s/early 80s, I wrote text adventures (as a tangled pile of global variables, if statements, and gotos) in Basic on computers like TRS80s, BBC Micros, AppleIIs, and an OsbourneII (a CPM/Z80 "portable"). I worked out that printing characters at the right place on screen fast enough could let me write "text mode" ascii-art versions of games like Pong, Lunar Lander, and Space Invaders. The performance of Basic led me to learn to write the inside event loop in assembler (On the AppleII you'd POKE all your event loop assembler into a block of memory, then CALL to it from Basic to run your game code instead of the Basic interpreter.) LoRes graphics, HiRes graphics, sprites and sprite collisions - stuff lie that was all an understandable and achievable learning path for a curious enough kid, where the "triple a" games of the time (Sabotage! Olympic Decathalon! Choplifter! LodeRunner!) were all things that an 11/12 year old with sufficient hubris and way too much time on his hands could "understand" how they worked, and imagine making it myself.

If "learning to program games" means to an 11 year old in 2021 "I want to write my own version of Cyberpunk 2077", I have absolutely no clue how Id even _start_ to help them along that path... What are the spepping stones between a hand-me-down laptop or phone, where a kid could start and imagine themselves ending up at something like the game they want to play???
That is a great point about "awareness of the body". I found that a lot of neck pain stemmed from improper neck angles while viewing my dual monitor workstation. And I would be so numb to sensation that I would stay in the incorrect pose for hours, leading to pain when I got up from work.

After some months of yoga, I am much more clearly able to recognise within minutes as soon as my neck is in any improper angle and fix it
rather than letting it pain me after hours
> The heck are you talking about? Bitcoin isn't illegal.

That's the point. Booting Parler off of AWS isn't illegal either. You know, conservative principles of free enterprise and all. AWS isn't government that will protect free speech.
You could isolate the college students within the campus however. I know that RMC (the Royal Military College in Canada) did that for its students. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid19-military-courses-1....
> It has to be stopped somehow, right? We can't have online communities pushing real world violence.

Seems like a function of a democratic government, not Jeff Bezos. Because Jeff Bezos isn't the government. Well, maybe, but not officially right?

What more could the FBI want than to have every extremist in the country communicating from one centralized server on AWS? Sad. Now they'll probably adopt a secure decentralized communication strategy and form into cells that can't easily be tracked.. wait, this happened before didn't it
Like I said you should read the first amendment. In the time that you spent typing all this you could’ve just read it.

I never said it wasn’t censorship or even that the system was fair, just that it’s not a violation in any way of the first amendment.
Yeah, but if BTC goes to zero, it's more relevant to ask "for every 100 investors who ever bought BTC, how many made a net profit and how many made a net loss"?
See my comment above. The cameras are on my WIFI network. They provide a URL you connect to and that gives you a stream. My python stream connects to that stream so I can watch my birdfeeder by looking at my laptop stream. FYI, VLC also knows how to be a RTSP client.
Would you also fire a BLM activist who was recorded setting a fire, breaking a window etc?
This is pretty lackluster reasoning, it would follow that since Benjamin Franklin was the discoverer of electricity and DARPA Net came from that so....

Taxpayer funding has no bearing on the commercialization of products down the road. It is not a special case of intellectual property...
I would think so, yes - the contents of their site.
> Actually, so is juice

Fair point. It's not as crazy bad, but in some cases pretty close. I try to avoid drinking any sugars.
Trump has frequently amplified Lin Wood.

On January 6th, people marched on the Capitol, injured many Capitol police members, and broke in while literally calling for Pence's head and having erected a gallows.

On January 7th, Wood said "Get the firing squads ready. Pence goes FIRST."

Is this incitement of violence? Why or why not?
If I jump the fence on Pennsylvania Ave and run across the White House lawn with delusions of grandeur about taking over the government—and promptly get shot—it isn't a failed coup.

The Capitol breach is not comparable to a junta raiding a presidential palace. It was more like the lone nutjob, except there were a few more nutjobs. And a bunch of LARPers and miscellaneous morons tagging along to riot because the protestors outnumbered the cops.

When I see a term like "coup" being bandied about inconsistent with its conventional usage, it looks to me like a rhetorical play rather than an honest analysis of what happened. "Sedition" carries all of the same gravity and probably is more accurate.

Edit: I found a good piece on Quartz that argues this point better: https://qz.com/1953602/is-america-experiencing-a-coup/
I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this.

I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship?

"First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"
How does AWS know what's hosted on their VMs?
> who said LEAVE IN PEACE is what we should be doing.

“we”?

He also called the insurrectionists “patriots”, and said that he “loved them”, while they were holding the capital building, looting, causing damage, and parading confederate flags through the halls. Just FYI. As like another thing to consider.

It’s sort of surprising how you didn’t mention that yourself. It was literally in the same tweet. I guess it must have slipped your mind.
That’s called Mastodon, email, finger, Usenet…
The huh? Are you saying if Twitter was compelling to let Trump on their platform and send messages that’s the same as compelling speech?

But it’s not Twitters speech. It’s Trumps.
I'm not sure of this, but I have a hypothesis that you're misunderstanding the Trump phenomenon.

Here's the idea to consider: Trump was sincere! Trump is basically always sincere. Even when he contradicts himself in a matter of minutes. He is a master bullshitter who grew up going to Normal Vincent Peale's church. His entire life is built on the idea that it's all a stage, all a game. The RESULT of that is: he's extremely practiced at coming up with stories and convincing himself. In other words, self-deception. He knows he's bullshitting, but he doesn't think a reality beyond bullshitting exists. He believes what he says all the time. That's why he doesn't give the normal tells that indicate shifty lying and deception. Unlike the other politicians who are obviously being calculating and withholding their real thoughts, Trump is transparent. He's saying exactly what he actually thinks, and even when it is complete oxymoronic, he experiences no cognitive dissonance. He's not really lying in the normal sense, he's delusional.

Check out https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/episodes/91612...

Trump is the ultimate self-deceiver. That's why his followers find him so appealing. He's authentic in that you can tell he really does say what he thinks and doesn't hold back. It's just that his mind is so constantly focused on whatever will get people to like him and otherwise what serves his interest, the content of his beliefs is similar to what it would be if he were consciously being deceptive. But if he were concerned about his stories being consistent and believable in content, he'd get all nervous and seem more like a liar. He's able to talk with sincerity because he doesn't care if his stories make sense, even as bullshit he still believes them for himself, at least enough to say the things in earnest.

Of course, I don't really know, but this would explain part of how it's possible for so many people to have still seen him as honest despite the plainly factually wrong things that come out of him.
This is an excellent point. I've been thinking about how to make it succinctly, I think this is as good a way as any.
Likely dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25707959

Over 400 points, over 700 comments.
If this is something that really concerns you, I would look to finding a good certified dietician if you can.

In my humble opinion, weight is not a good indicator of anything unless it's at the very extremes. I am hesitant to post my height and weight right now because that can be taken wrongly.

I think you are being proactive in YOUR health which is good! No one knows your body more than you. I hope this helps.
When did BLM try to overthrow the government? When did they try to execute politicians?
Plenty of subtle agenda-pushing on Wikipedia if you're paying attention
> Before social media these kinds of nonsense would never spread, but now so many people believe this kind of nonsense that it has become a huge threat to society.

Are you sure about that ? The Red Scare, the Cold War, nuclear weapons on Irak, and so on and so on ... I'm pretty sure a said nonsense would find a way to spread just like history showed us in the past.
Yeah, it seems to be some sort of snowball effect. If you're lucky and have a few initial users, then you can grow faster, acquire more users, and beat the competition.
Why would they need to be accountable? They aren’t breaking any laws and they aren’t elected officials...

Sure the government could interfere and make more laws and regulate but the typical conservative position would not be in favor of government meddling....
By banning them you only move them more and more underground. You will end up making them go to Tor and organize in a place where no one can observe them. But these people can feel free to continue shooting themselves in the foot. There is a reason 4chan is allowed to exist.
Read this article before you downvote or flag:

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/all-effd-up-levine
I can't tell if you're trolling. They literally even themselves responded saying that while they wouldn't approve, they think it's something the company should be allowed to do.
If you can't understand the difference, that's on you.
> Honestly what this reminded me of is the paper on Veblerian entrepreneurship[1]. People like this might have their finger on the pulse when it comes to entertainment content, or social media, but I have no idea how they're supposed to make informed technological decisions in the more narrow sense of the term. Venture capital seems to be more and more invested in entertainment, lifestyle, and content creation rather than deep technological and material innovation.

The same way I imagine random VCs and new funds do it -- hire experts and consultants until they get a feel for the field and more importantly connections to more private placements.

Money is capital because it allows you to do these things -- you don't have to be an expert in a field if you can just hire one.

Also, do we know how much alpha is actually generated by VCs as opposed to random scattershot (especially in a certain niche) and getting lucky?
Saying “good” here is like saying it was good for a baker to refuse making a custom cake for a gay wedding. Just because they have the right to do it does not mean it’s a good thing.
You just performed the exact rhetorical trick the OP described. You tried to reduce this to “disagreement.” These actions aren’t about disagreement. They’re about violence and sedition.
So you’re saying the individual you’re discussing is truly radioactive? If so, for how long?
Let people declare value of their copyrighted material. They then must pay x% of it's value each year as tax for the gov protecting it. Anyone is allowed to bid on the ip and if they give a higher price, the author is allowed to raise their assessment or sell it.

Nice system that taxes huge ip and allows small authors to keep their stuff(or cash out).
To put it on even footing with the current Parler scenario, add this one:

5) Hire a mob and storm the capital of the United States in an act of sedition, linking the planning and encouraging of the attack to your competitor's platform.
Free speech versus freedom of assembly. This is their collision. We resolve this by creating protected classes, a concept much of the Parler user base opposes on the grounds of religious freedom. Forcing people and groups of people to associate with those they abhor is also tyrannically tainted.
You understand that freedom of speech doesn't mean that private companies have to host or publish your speech, right? AWS is not Congress. They have no obligation to you, and you have no right to free speech on their platform.

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
What will you do when you stop making progress? Once you get beyond the beginner level, progress will flatten out, and as you age it will go backward.

As a runner, just slightly older than you, I am getting dramatically slower, and certainly haven't made positive progress in ~6 years.
No, the police haven't been told to "stand down" and take selfies when defending the nations capitol or congress.
This of course brings up the highly controversial issue of whether you should optimize your architecture for multicloud or go all-in on one provider.

Edit: I would recommend Corey Quinn's thread for more background, but tl;dr it's hard to get kicked off AWS and it's not happening due to political slant

https://twitter.com/QuinnyPig/status/1348130385411018752
What about phone companies then? Should a phone company be able to disconnect service of customers because of perfectly legal political speech? The phone companies are "free" to associate right?

What everyone fails to seem to realize is that once you are a public pipe (phone, internet, etc.) for millions of Americans to communicate over there should be laws that stops you from being able to be a gatekeeper for speech just because you own the hardware. In order to be allowed to remain in operation you should be required to certify that you do not censor.
It's private action, not government action. That's a big difference.
OMG, they've raised $4 million dollars??!! Clearly I'm not as clever at monetizing my ideas.
Section 230 applies equally to ISPs and AWS and it does not do what you say it does. (actually AWS is an ISP)

And B2C ISPs can discriminate because Republicans, you know, ended net neutrality.
> I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship?

The events of Wednesday of last week changed my mind.

> "First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wans't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to stop them from getting me"

First Wikipedia banned Church of Scientology, and no one really cared.

Then 4chan booted Gamergate, and no one really cared.

Then Cloudflare booted Daily Stormer, and no one really cared.

Then AWS / Apple / Google booted Parlor. And you know? Its not really nearly as bad as you think. We have real life examples. You don't have to talk about hypotheticals, choose a real life example.

Like, do you really think Parlor deserves a platform if the community is continuing to plot assassination attempts vs Mike Pence and attacks on the Inauguration over the next two weeks?

Instead of arguing in the abstract, how about you argue with what's going on this week.
'Deplorables'? And you're calling them toxic? :'D