skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
At first glance I thought it would be another post about recent events. Still decided to give it a try.

It is surprisingly interesting, pointing out incongruences, mostly regarding the "anti-social media" business model and quite a few details we don't usually see in the medias.

E.g. potential links with russia[0]; The first thousands of accounts set up in russia; One of the shareholding LLC was set up by the US president's attorney's former firm... while said attorney was frequently travelling to Russia.

Which, if true, could prove to be an entertaining story in the next few months. It could also be a massive security threat on top of a very creative way of destabilising a foreign government.

[0]: https://twitter.com/davetroy/status/1327269280895918086
I'm not clear how twitter shows a double standard? It's the trump folks who were chanting to hang mike pence, and their leader, trump, has been banned. I guess the double standard that the right wingers don't get banned soon enough? Or that wealthy stars don't get banned soon enough? Trump should have been banned before becoming president even
That's illegal from lockdowns right now.
I've heard techies saying char with ch in "chair". I was terrified.
Yes we do, but we do not have an obligation to facilitate it. Private forums have no obligation to publish or distribute anything they don’t want to. Their owners and operators have rights too. Free speech simply doesn’t apply. Just go and communicate somewhere else, or build your own chat service, or publish a leaflet or book, or whatever. But I have no obligation to allow you to come into my house or business and say these things.
I have no obligation to listen to what you say, nor do I have an obligation to build you a platform to spread it.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if most video views were made on content whose creators are at least trying to make a living out of it.
> Anyone is free to set up a computer in their basement, install a web server, open up port 80 to the world, and serve to the world whatever blog or forum they want.

The internet as it exists for many people all over the world does not always include control over ports, or even a static IP address. Even if you do have a static IP you'll still need to go through a company to register a domain.

And as far as I know there's nothing stopping an ISP from refusing service, which could be coordinated just like this app store removal.
> Well well well, we finally found something CMake can actually do.

You mean, besides Cmake being the absolute best build system for C and C++ available, right?

> Please, everyone, stop using CMake. It doesn't do its one job.

What are you talking about? Can you provide a single example where you show Cmake not working?
Not OP. I don't think they "collude" in the traditional sense.

But every time one of the entities takes some decision or step or action, whether censorship or otherwise, it makes it a little bit more excusable and easier for others to do it and justify it.

E.g. (hypothetical)

1. Reddit bans /r/ABC for "TOS violations".

2. It's news and many reporters report on it across various articles. Some say it's due to "repeated" "alleged" "hate speech" violations, whether true or not. Probably 50% true, who knows.

3. ABC makes its own website and has a mailing list from some mail newsletter provider X because that's just what you do when you have a site and need to keep in touch with visitors/members.

4. Activists on Twitter notice. Outrage mob starts. "@X mail provider hosting known hate-speech movement" "@X mail provider...did you know you're hosting known white supremacists?" "Everybody, please stop using @X, they're supporting white supremacists!" "@AWS please look into what @X is using your infrastructure for!" ...all citing some selective articles as legitimacy.

5. Articles get written about a "movement" to have X drop service for controversial and "alleged" hate-speech website ABC.

6. X mail provider gets pressured and eventually drops service to ABC.

At this point, X mail provider probably won't get many "legitimate", "official" and "mainstream" criticisms for effectively dropping customers (even if all the mail sent by those customers on X's platform is 100% legal and innocent). Nor can their shareholders complain about losing profit because "we can't be seen supporting racists".

The problem is that each time this sort of thing happens, it adds "partial proof" of the accusations without an actual "court-like" process that decides if it's really true or not. After a certain point, it's just accepted and then carries an aura of truth/legitimacy.

Edit. Formatting.
It would actually be interesting to know how common that extension is as a percentage of wikipedia views. I would bet less than 0.1%
> There is literally no technology that the Stasi having would be a good thing, including pen and paper.

Not sure I agree with that analogy... pen and paper doesn't scale!

Having the ability to do something at global scale, like facial recognition or real-time tracking and saying "Honest! We won't use it for dodgy things" is not sufficient...

It'd be naieve to say I'd rather it didn't exist, however that cat is out of the bag now so there _must_ be incredibly robust and tamper-proof checks and balances round its use and the penalties for subverting that should be incredibly severe.
Happy birthday, Wikipedia.

Agree though that on the rare occasion I skim an article falling within one of my areas of expertise, I'm usually left very disappointed, puzzled about the mindset of editors seeing themselves nevertheless as domain experts going by the authoritative tone of Wikipedia articles.

The Gell-Mann amnesia effect makes me then appreciate articles out of my area of expertise again. That, and the fact that most sites when read in EU greet you with annoying cookie dialogs, something I wish search engines would indicate in advance in order for me to spare me visiting it (a turning away effect I wish was studied and quantified somewhere as it vastly changed my browsing habits).
I'm always surprised by lists like these that fail to mention Space Station 13, the most actively developed 10+ year old FOSS game on GitHub. There are numerous forks of it, with tgstation being the most popular one [1].

SS13 is multiplayer round-based role playing game, where players assume the role of a crewmember on a space station. Together they must keep the station running smoothly, whilst dealing with antagonistic forces who threaten to sabotage the mission.

Since most stations have dozens of job roles, each with content enough to last you hundreds of hours it's no surprise why people such as myself have spent thousands of hours on it and thousands play this every day. It has systems as varied as atmospherics, fully destructible environments, surgery, genetics, science, engineering, etc etc and the amount of content and interaction possible means that no two rounds are the same. Here's a very popular review which shares stories of some of the crazy events that can happen [2].

Unfortunately it's all built on the proprietary engine BYOND. However there are fully libre successors on new FOSS engines which are in-progress to match the massive amount of content SS13 has already accumulated, such as SS14 [3] and Unitystation [4]. I'm not a hardcore FOSS enthusiast about games so I prefer the amount of content SS13 has for the time being, but in time I intend to play and contribute to one of the successors instead in the future. They both have active servers if you're interested in playing them right now, with SS14 also already being available on Steam.

Watch the review at least, you won't regret hearing the funny stories at the very least.

[1] https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URJ_qSXruW0
[3] https://spacestation14.io
[4] https://unitystation.org
The point being that the fundamental problem of a police state being the authority granted to the police, rather than the specific tools they use? I do wonder whether tools like this will cause some people to think twice before demonstrating against government policies in the future. AI has the potential to vastly exacerbate the chilling effect of various policies of authoritarians. It will be interesting to see how the next iteration of BLM reacts to these tools being used.
The post made clear that it wasn't about the tweet itself, but the broader context and how the tweet was being interpreted by communities who sought to do harm.

You can argue that's not fair to Trump, and don't pretend his accounts were banned for the literal meaning of the words, when the post you linked to makes clear the thinking behind the decision.
It's really just up to the government to nationalize the internet and popular News organizations, and provide proper equal access to all as protected by the constitution.

Nationalization is the answer you're looking for
Weird thing is the current 'public forum', i.e. the place where debate is had, is fully run by private companies.

The fact that access to the public forum these days requires abiding by a ToS enforced by a private, no-apeal process is bad.
This accounts for like 15% of all comments on political threads here.
I think this post is just ignoring some of the realities that a lot of people have gone through. In many places you weren't allowed to leave your home at all. In spain, only one adult member of your household was allowed to go outside for basic necessities, without leaving your neighborhood, for 3 months. For about another 3 months you were limited to certain times and areas, which made having social distancing for walking/running practically impossible. Couple that with the fact that in some cities people live crammed in small rooms in shared apartments, the access for healthy movement for a lot of people was greatly impacted.
> I keep running into CMake based things not being portable, and being broken. And pretty much every single time cmake fails, it does not have ANY log AT ALL of what it did, and why it thinks libfoo is not there.

Google "cmake --trace-expand"

Is that your main gripe with Cmake?
Twitter thread – What was learnt from deplatforming ISIS
Like with the Pirate Bay, the demand for Parler is already there. Outside of being declared illegal, Parler soon come back online or another app/website will take its place.
Ugandan police chief says journalists are beaten for their own safety
Banning someone from twitter is still not mass censorship though. The ideas can still be passed around just fine over snail mail
Browsers still let you load even self signed certs, they just warn you.
These guys have been brainwashed for decades by Fox News, which always claimed the "I can lie about everything because free speech" defense. This is not about diversity of opinions anymore. Their side besieged key democratic institutions such as the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the Vice President, with the intention to overthrow the government and to kill democratically elected politicians.

This is not about diversity of opinions anymore. The people who did this need to be persecuted and receive lengthy jail sentences, whoever aided and abetted them needs to be sentenced, and there need to be real and actual consequences. Because if we don't do that, we only show that we are weak, and that you can storm the Capitol without any consequences. What is the lesson you think they will take from that? You think it stops here? Are they encouraged, or discouraged? If nothing happens to them, what do you think they'll do next? This isn't over.

The people who are fanning the flames need their megaphones taken from them. If whole platforms exist for the purpose of encouraging hatred and sedition, these platforms need to be banned. It's not rocket science. Fucking ban Fox News. Block Breitbart. Or drown them in lawsuits and persecute them for every lie they tell. It's either that or fascism. You choose.
Just because it’s also used by abusers doesn’t mean it’s always incorrect. Clearly the divide has been growing, and if you think deplatforming the right (which of course immediately went on to create their own platforms, so there’s now left wing and right wing echo chambers) isn’t at least partly to blame, then what is?
I was more sympathetic towards Parler until I saw a screenshot of a post calling journalists "soft targets" that are "fair game" and to be "stopped by any means necessary."

My understanding is that in Parler, posts are moderated by a jury of five peers. But if that jury is just as extreme as the poster advocating murdering journalists, what then?

Section 230 doesn't provide a safe harbor for criminal speech like advocating or planning violence. There has to be a second moderation channel to keep that from happening, or Parler should be liable as an accessory for violent crimes planned in the open on its platform.

I'd wash my hands of them if they're that negligent.
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I think it deep da on your age. Some among us who are older remember what it used to be like when people were much less political and less activism was occurring. These days basic concrete facts are subject to debate.
It would be great if https://media.ccc.de/ would switch to PeerTube but they have their own stack. Still, conference videos are one way to resolve the chicken egg problem.
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Every other Western democracy limits free speech by excluding "hate speech", which carries penalties. Maybe one of those definitions makes sense to you as a framework for what you would support in the US.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
It's not that complicated, when you incite violent insurrection against the government and people follow through with it, you get shut down. It's not like any of these platforms had a choice given Trump's violent rhetoric and history of lying.
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The US should steal Australia's point based system of immigration. Put a value on the attributes we are looking for and if you reach that number of points you can immigrate. It is far too difficult to become a naturalized US citizen.
Not super easily, but the entire site can be downloaded from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html so you can make your own copy and do what you want (technically this is a little involved. File formats are not the most convinent)

The full dumps include old versions of articles but there are also old dumps available at https://dumps.wikimedia.org/archive/
Internet was being used to promote and organize 2 more riots on the 19th and 20th in the exact same manner it was used to promote and organize the Jan 6 riot that ended in 5 deaths. Also, sedition, what was being planned and organized on parler, is a federal crime, it’s in the criminal code.

Not saying that Parler shouldn't have been banned, just that this particular argument is weak.
You're forgetting about donations / patronage, which everyone can do and I'm willing to bet has been growing in share for the past years.
Tales of Maj'Eyal is an excellent rougelike. https://te4.org/
Though the source is on a gitlab server https://git.net-core.org/groups/tome

I also want to highlight mindustry as mentioned elsewhere.

Assault Cube seems to have gotten their source code on github! https://github.com/assaultcube/AC
There are still some people (sometimes me) playing on the multiplayer server.
None of them was cancelled, they were not protested against by students. They did not had twitter yet. It is stupid term to use in relation to 1954 Russia.

That is not what instability of regime means. It does not refer to individual being forced to retire. The regime itself was more stable then before. Khruschev retirement did not weakened nor endangered regime.

Stalin did changed people on top too. Some changes and power struggles after his death are not more instability or "touched" communism.

Khruschev was the first one retired. Powerful people before him left power dead (by execution) or by being imprisoned forever. That is being more stable.

It did became safer to both hold power and not to hold it in Russia after Stalin death.
Probably. I've also been in Open Source around 20 years, UK based. I don't recall hearing about Framasoft before.
Gab swapped one set of vendors for another. Now they are at the mercy of Cloudflare, ProtonMail, Wordpress, their new underlying server vendor and any security vulnerabilities that pop up in their haphazardly maintained forks of the libre software that powers their website.
There is "fighting words" on both side, unfortunately. We just don't see it because it's in relation to the "accepted" set of opinions. It's part of what's so frustrating for the right right now. E.g. look at the "punch the Nazi" stuff that is apparently A-OK.
I hope it’s not the T-800[1].

[1]- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_(character)
At the moment no [0].
My undertsanding of the arguments is that macros and the type system already get you 90% of the way at compile time (while being able to cause compile time error if you made a mistake rather than obscure run time crashes) and that reflection has no benefit large enough to warrant the additional complexity and bug opportunities.

[0]: https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/solid-reflection-in-rust
Tada's business model was challenged in court, but they won. After Tada's legal victory, the National assembly under pressure from the taxi industry changed the law to essentially kill the "domestic" company -- under the new law, Tada was only allowed to serve tourists and the pick-up's and drop-off's limited to airports / seaports.

Sure, Uber was the first to arrive in the SK market and it immediately faced fierce pushback from the taxi union and regulators. South Korea's transport law does not allow private vehicles for commercial purposes, but it makes an exception for "car pool." Uber was declared illegal because it used private vehicles for commercial purppose and the company subsequently pulled out in 2015. Kakao launched the following year, but avoided Uber's misfortune by using registered taxis only. It appeased the taxi union, but it also meant that the company couldn't make any money and it is probably not the best example of the "shared economy" business model promoted by Uber.

South Korea's "domestic" companies like Tada and Kakao tried to enter carpool business afterward, but, after no fewer than 3 taxi driver suicides in protest, two in horrific self-immolation, and the gov't intervention, Tada was forced to close their shop this year; Kaokao's capool service is limited to only 4hr/day and during rush hours on weekdays. That is not what Uber would have pursued in SK.

I don't think Uber's failure in SK is good evidence to prove your case as many domestic companies, big or small, suffered similar legal troubles and fierce resistance from the taxi industry. I'd generally agree that SK doesn't have the best business climate, but I just don't see where it is necessarily hostile to foreign companies, or where "domestic" companies are favored over foreign competitors; or where all they do is to copy foreign companies similiar to China.
If anything, this is a classic example of "we're going to build our own platform, with blackjack hookers and insurrection", and seeing how far that gets you.

There's a line where continued operation becomes aiding and abetting, and it's also clear the content of that site represented a clear and present danger in the short term.

This isn't a theoretical discussion. This is a direct consequence of an attempted coup.
Is that a problem? Isn’t the usual complaint that foreigners are happy to accept less pay, and h1bs are used to fuel that?

You want foreigners to cost more, to incentivize usage of the local population first — and the whole point of the h1b was supposed to be to “improve the average”, by only hiring for those skills/expertise that can be met by local population.
It either does not have links back to the discussions on HN or they aren’t showing on mobile.
Its at the discrediting of platform owners what they allow on their platform. That’s it. Different platform owners will draw different lines, and that’s fine, they should have the freedom to do so.
Unless you don't have hardware accelerated decoding for VP8/9. Then it is very noticeable, especially on a laptop.
The whole "if you don't like it, vote with your dollars" angle doesn't really work when a handful of companies own, control and host 99.999% of social media. The power that these private companies wield is greater than the power of any government. They're not democratic. They are driven by the unending pursuit of growth. They have no moral compass, so their rules are in their own private interest. They dodge taxes, support populist movements to virtue signal, and they quietly collude with governments that wish to spy on their journalists and citizens so they can "disappear" them for wrongthink. Their rules are "whatever is best for us".

I don't know what the answer is, but having seen these large private companies censor rational discussion of scientific fact, this scares me.
Yeah, me also.
That's the problem: we don't know.

I don't have any particularly noteworthy political opinions; most people would probably put me in the "surprisingly ordinary" box if they had to categorize me. Despite that, I wouldn't dream of getting into something like a political discussion on Twitter. It's simply impossible to know whom the mob will go after next, or in 10 or 20 years.

I don't know how many others feel the same way, but I do know there are others out there. There is a non-zero chance that one of us has something really important to say, but won't, because we don't want to face a potential angry online mob in the future.
I don't think Mein Kampf is banned in Germany.
I think it's reasonable that people who were involved in actual violence or theft should face consequences.

When you say it's pretty simple, others are calling for everyone on the Capitol grounds to be arrested. Technically they were breaking the law by trespassing.
Amazon's history of cutting off cloud resources to anyone that the government might frown at goes back almost as far as this history of AWS. For example, way back in 2010, Senator Lieberman had his staff call Bezos and basically say "Hey, you want fat AWS contracts? Cut off Wikileaks." Bezos complied immediately (and later issued a press release that said, effective, "we totally did it because Wikileaks was not complying with our terms of service and it totally wasn't because a Senator called us and told us to."
Why would a business pay 2x to someone when they can get the same output from a local at 1x pay? Unless they(business) are doing some financial trickery
Unvanquished: Building a Communicty as a Service
Gekko: OS software used by the Danish gov. for economic forecasting
One of these days, I'm going to actually sit down and read through Juvenal's Satires[0]. I've read Plato's Republic and Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, but not any of the Roman classics.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satires_(Juvenal)
Turchin (not in the linked article, but elsewhere[0]) explicitly refers to rise in number of underemployed graduates as a trigger for the creation of a counter-Elite.

[0] http://peterturchin.com/cliodynamica/the-storming-of-the-u-s...

"Elite overproduction, and especially overproduction of the youth with advanced degrees, continues unabated. Our institutions of higher education have been churning out law, MBA, and PhD degrees, many more than could be absorbed by the economy. In a Bloomberg View article published just a few days ago Noah Smith provides the numbers for the overproduction of PhDs (America Is Pumping Out Too Many Ph.D.s)."
there is only one side with a president. If you had asked differently, you couldnt be so biased anymore because many many democrat politicians were quite explicitly encouraging more riots and even harassment of politicians. While police stations were burned down. Meanwhile a bunch of Trump supporters casually walked into the senate laughing and smiling and giving thumbs up to the camera. If you cant see which one is worse, nobody can help you