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“I discovered computers”, the title of this submission, is uttered very early on in this video. I feel the phrase to be terribly universal in that, at some age, at least, computers provide an antidote to the terrible. Confronted with an obvious and stark lack of power, we are suddenly granted power: the machine does exactly what I say, if I have the patience to learn how to say it. What an incisive and timely tool. What serendipity!

A stick on the ground remains a stick - no staff, no wand, no artifact of thunder - unless urgency presses the insignificant into significance.
There are many negative things about living in California, but I’ve never heard anyone say that an unstable ecology is one of them.
Exactly. Its the basically same way with vim. Some plugins are distributed with the editor and some are not
I think this is over played because the articles get views. First the Bay was in trouble because everyone is going to work from Tahoe and Iowa. Then tech companies continued to lease new office space so we've got to have a different doomsday.

Are the headquarters staff for these three companies vital to the Bay area economy? I'm not too worried.

The more interesting question is which city will have the largest crop of unicorns in the next business cycle. If those companies go remote or hit their hyper growth phase in non-Bay cities there will be something to talk about.
Many companies that assumed employees are working from home are discovering large numbers of employees are working from other areas and states.
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> Apple Support was also apparently cold to when Johnson admitted she wouldn't have been able to make a mortgage payment. The support person reportedly told her that "there's a setting, you should have known."

Pretty dammn outrageous if that's what they said.
I'd imagine the owners will, but who knows about the employees. Liberalization in general is happening through the government schools. Pull the kids out, teach them at home or put them in a private school you trust.
Yea I don’t disagree, but what development team has the luxury of choosing SwiftUI?

Most places hiring are looking for cross platform “2 developers for the price of one” ... and the burden of dealing with cumbersome react native falls on the developer.
This general topic seems to come back into focus on a regular basis on HN (last time, 1 week ago). People have been leaving SV in numbers for the 30 years I've been here, always citing traffic & cost of housing as the primary reasons. Though this time, you could add decriminalization of petty crime. Nonetheless, the population growth remains net positive.

The fundamental design of the Internet was to be robust against various forms of damage to the network. I see Silicon Valley as a similar type of system. It is not difficult to look back 40 years and see how at each inflection point, The Valley's constituent technologies, and the companies they spawned, led the rest of the world and scaled The Valley up.

- In the 1980s, Silicon Valley's Intel lost it's dominance in DRAM production to Japan. The economic impact was dire, and yet

- In the early 1990s, networking and workstations emerged from the likes of SUN and Cisco. They carried through until global competition stole their wind, and it was on to

- The late 90s and the .COM boom. And what a boom it was, Amazon, Google, followed by another death knell for myriad .COM corpses. Promptly engendering

- The 2000s birth of social media. MySpace faltered, then LinkedIn, then Facebook, then Twitter, came up and are still going strong on the foundation of

- 2010s open source platforms. Still mind-blowing: At one point WhatsApp had 40 software engineers and 400,000,000 users. At 3 years old.

I've heard about the exodus from California, usually citing so many thousands or 10s of thousands of people leaving. But looking a the net population changes, Santa Clara County is down 5,000 from 2018-2019. Alameda, San Mateo, San Francisco are all up.

Silicon Valley is a system that regenerates from one generation to the next, and so far, always bigger and more influential than the last.
AppCode. I used to use it a lot, and in many respects it's just plain better than Xcode. You can one-click install a plugin to use vim bindings, for example, whereas in Xcode you have to strip out the code signature so that you can install a third party plugin for vim bindings because, I don't know, fuck you I guess.

The problem was that AppCode was always a few months behind Xcode in terms of Swift support, and Interface Builder never really worked right. So the workflow was to have them both open at the same time and constantly switch back and forth, which at the end of the day just isn't great.

I wish Xcode didn't suck, but it does in so many ways. Not much to be done about it.
Even better than a part time legislature, in fact. Texas only meets for a few months every other year.
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So I'm screwed? :) I've hired in my passed and lead small teams. I put that in the slide.... but it's just so empty with just me and my credentials
Notice this comment is from Peter Norvig. ^^^^^
That is appCode, which has some pretty big limitations last I used it. For instance, you can only edit XIB files in XCode.

But AppCode's navigation and refactoring capabilities are much better.
What particular policies did people vote for that contributed to their reasons for fleeing?
tl;dr LSD binds to a protein containing a specific amino acid

This is one of the worst summary articles I've ever seen. If you care enough about science to be interested in protein binding,t hen you probably care enough to want to know it involves 5-HT2a, a serotonin receptor. At least the original study is linked.

https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)31066-7.pdf
Better PR too
And then they only work on wlroots rather than every Wayland compositor, and then we're back at the original part of the problem that wlroots now had to reimplement the parts of X11 that were deemed safe to remove, but were later found to be used enough to be required.

The difference is that on X11 since it's part of the standard it will work everywhere, rather than only with one window manager.
They will probably favor them in the beginning but I think a lot of that comes from the SF bay area echo chamber. Getting exposure to different cultures will probably average things out more politically leading to greater acceptance and diversity of thought.
DirectX was literally a game changer. PC Mag's 1995 article about DirectX:

https://books.google.com/books?id=FTbctntiaHgC&lpg=RA3-PA320...
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Agreed. They're companies trying to avoid taxes or regulation. Only companies on the downslide really consider that as an relevant option.
> First, they were not her reviewers.

They reviewed her paper, so tautologically they were. You seem to be suggesting that this was inappropriate though, yes?

> Furthermore, the review process does not involve anonymous review. And no similar process does.

Nope. I'm in an SV company similar to two FAANGs and it totally does. If you submit a paper and want the company to sponsor it, you'd better believe it does. Before your manager lets you even start the process on work time they'll have you meet with others above you to review the idea, and it goes to both your team's architecture review board (in engineering) and an adjacent team's review board. The reviewers aren't anonymous, quite, because you can look at who's in the groups, but they boil the requests down and present it as a list, not a set of feedback. You can ask to have anything reviewed, because it's not a one-and-done process. Some people sail through, others do it as an iterative process. And then legal looks at everything and they insist on seeing the final release version, even if you only tweaked a comma.

Of course they're stringent though, this is a new project you're proposing to release with their name on it, made in lieu of your other job.

> This was not scientific peer review: no scientific process has peer reviewers from one's own institution.

Generally your research institution, in your subfield, won't have more than 5-10 actual peers and they're all assumed to know you and probably your work. So it's not that it can't be, it's that it's usually not useful.

> almost certainly avoiding reviewers from the same institution specifically to avoid conflicts of interest.

Google has multiple interests. They're very concerned with their reputation and even if the paper didn't need more peer review (which it seems to) they clearly think it needed a second round of review.

> If I made a code review, a coworker approved it, and my skip-manager said "This was reverted because some people said we couldn't ship it, but I'm not telling you who," I'd feel entirely justified in objecting.

You'd be fine if you just said you disagreed for technical reasons, but if you actually objected and released it yourself over objection you'd be escorted out within minutes and very likely charged with unauthorized use of the work resources to do so.

They pay your salary. This job is about your work product, not your feeling of entitlement. Want academic freedom, separate it from your 9-5.
HP moving to Texas is the corporate version of my grandparents retiring to Florida.
Given that the Texas GOP leadership recently mused publicly about seceding from the United States I wonder how many of the people and companies that left California for Texas would be pleased to wake up one morning and discover they now live in a foreign country? My guess would be: "not so many".
These threads have to go. They attract the worst comments HN has to offer.
This is from 2016.

But it turns out we discover fairly major new things about the body fairly frequently.

2018 - did scientist really no know what 20% of the fluids in the body are?: "The ground-breaking discovery of the new organ meant that old mysteries could be solved. For instance, scientists always knew that 20 per cent of body fluids were missing in a total tally, in between blood, lymph, serum and other bodily fluids" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-28/scientists-discover-n...

2020 - extra saliva glands inside our head no one knew about: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/you-may-have-new-org...
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Oh. I see the title was changed. :(
“Liberalization” is a massive generalization and I don’t see what connection you’re making between public school curricula and reasons someone might move out of Silicon Valley. It seems a bit silly to do so.

Besides high housing demand and concentrated wealth, what contributed to the way Silicon Valley is today that has anything to do with public schooling?
They might go with a processor bump for the 15”. And maybe more thermal headroom and an external GPU. Hard to predict.
I wish the author had spent more time looking at Pulumi. I think I can boil the article down to the following assertion:

"True"/Better infrastructure as code means packaging infrastructure with code. The ability to define structure (a la classes/data types) and instantiate instances (a la class instances/value types) at the macro system level is important.

This is expressly supported by Pulumi's component and custom resources[0]. I think they don't even know how powerful this feature is, because it's buried so deep in the documentation.

[0]: https://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/concepts/programming-model...
In theory. Sometimes it only has one implementation and the details leak through.
Silicon Valley won't even leave behind interesting urban ruins.
Yes! That’s the one, thanks. It was a very interesting video.
Alternatively, the influx of tech money greatly increases the cost of property in Texas. In turn, senior residents start to no longer be able to afford to keep up their property taxes. Eventually a proposition appears on the ballot to limit the growth of property taxes...
could you give me like an eli5 explanation of what specific policies you are referring to? I ask this as a left leaning person living in a right leaning state. So from where I sit, I see some of the dumb things my right leaning politicians do but I would love to understand what specific policies people think are some of Califoria's dumbest.
Feedback: I did four years of college radio and have wanted to host my own call-in show since I was a kid, and this is seriously what I've been looking for recently.

I do a weekly podcast with my good friend and am going to try it out the next time I record a podcast but I have a couple of thoughts off the bat:

1. Using my phone means I can't (easily) use my condenser mic and pro headphones like I do with my laptop.

2. Rights/Distribution: I currently have 100% ownership over the content I create and I can choose where to distribute it because I have the raw files. Your terms seem on the face to be amenable to me being able to pick up and move my content. I'll be interested to see if you make the content I send through you available for me to download - or if it's required for me to (somehow) also make a recording of my own , which might cause trouble later.

I'm excited for this and think it could be big, and understand it's an MVP right now, so plenty to come just a couple things to think about.

Awesome!
I am curious if anyone agrees with my take:

HP Enterprise and Oracle did not move because Texas is "more tech friendly." Instead they moved because HPE and Oracle are no longer primarily tech companies. While they do substantial technical work, most of that will remain in SV.

It's sort of the mirror of Apple, which also has a substantial presence in Austin (finance, etc) but is headquartered in SV because it is primarily a tech company.
> As a regular user I can only go n+2 connections.

You just killed the whole dating app industry. And job boards. And regional marketplaces.
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"Fleeing California" articles are evergreen on HN. I can never tell if there's anything new, or if it's just people voting up the usual nothingburger, presumably to express displeasure with California culture or governmental policies.
Yeah literally nothing about Oracle is useful or innovative. It’s like the WalMart of tech companies; just kind of exists and has rested on its laurels for a decade+.
And they are pulling them back or requesting a full move, using taxes as the reason.
On top of that, a huge fraction of the laws are written directly in the constitution, meaning that without a supermajority it's impossible to change almost anything.
Totally agree, it all depends on where the next FAANG comes from, not what Oracle and HP are doing
There's a lot of land in Texas, and they're not opposed to building high rises.
What's lacking in Google Collab, AWS, GCP and Azure? In my non-ML programmer point of view what you're saying is already available. Why do you think it's not?

Isn't it true that the most high end hardware is available only in these clouds anyways?
I left downtown SF in 2018 for Nashville and couldn't be happier. I am fiscally conservative/libertarian so definitely did not align with the bay area politics and echo chamber. The last three years in Nashville have been some of my happiest, but also the most financially successful of my life. Just purchased a home here in Nashville that would be unobtanium in California.

I made this point about not voting for the same policies that caused people to leave California in the Oracle exodus story and got downvoted to death.
I don't know about unstable ecology, but I'm kind of tired of the yearly weeks of forest fires causing dangerous air quality here in the bay area.
I had a pretty popular take last week on Elon Musk leaving. The same station is now pushing this narrative. I think they are click baiting us all.

HP is not SV. Oracle isnt SV. They arent major players. Maybe there is a larger trend that may come to fruition, but I dont think that will happen. Also, Austin Tx is over crowded already. There is a housing shortage there, we are doomed to see another SF real estate shortage if this becomes true.<rushes to buy Austin property>
The LA mayor is telling people to not walk outside because of covid. If thats not absurd big liberal govt policy idk what is. Who would want to live somewhere where the govt thinks they can do that. Your rights as a person dont vanish in a crisis.

https://fortune.com/2020/12/03/los-angeles-new-lockdown-rule...

dannyincolor - He issued an order. Its not an ask. This isnt a where you live thing, this is a govt overstepping their bounds thing. Id have no problem with asking.
Agreed, but luckily the bay area includes all kinds of architecture that isn't corporate offices.
Lots of nimby policies (Prop 13, blocking new construction) significantly raises housing costs for everyone, I suspect this isn't a small part of why many people leave.
To be clear, climate change affects Texas too - it gets hotter here every year.

https://www.keranews.org/2019-08-22/austin-makes-top-10-list...

And unfortunately we have our share of deadly wildfires as well (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastrop_County_Complex_Fire), although thankfully not to the same degree that California does.
Feels like someone is pulling the strings here. Same thing happened a year or so ago with numerous articles about how robots and self-driving trucks were going to take all the blue collar jobs.
People really want to see California and silicon valley fail.

Crab mentality I think, people love these articles
I see the Tuskegee example trotted out pretty often and frankly I was ignorant of it. Is this a well known and discussed thing among black people or might it be more about a general distrust of the government, etc. and as you pointed out, being historically under represented in medicine.

I am just guessing a fairly small people asked about Tuskegee would know what it is but maybe it's just me. I am just suggesting maybe asking black people why they don't want a covid vaccine for example and address those issues.
Please don't come here to Texas. You'd fit better in New York.
Actually, it's one of the most commonly cited reasons.

One of the more common reasons people are leaving CA is retirement. In the 90s and thousands, it was pretty popular for people to move to Sacrament (Granite Bay and Auburn) to retire. Today it's Tahoe and out of state. People love to retire in the forest, but if it's going to light your house on fire, people will look elsewhere.
If efforts to secede gain any traction, that could disrupt this flow quickly. It's more expensive to do business internationally than state-to-state.
I’ve read a lot of “the party is over” Bay Area exodus articles and this one is pretty limp, it did nothing but reiterate the news that a couple companies recently left and then poorly rehashed all the usual tropes. It even misrepresents how taxes work with “the absence of a state personal income tax amounts to a 13.3% raise for top earners”.

Not worth arguing about here.
In these comments: "bad policies" are when we make insanely wealthy individuals and organizations pay their fair share (like the tech companies in question). "Good policies" are like those of the places these leeches and psychos flock to which will allow them to avoid paying their fair share and horribly exploit their workers, communities, and fellow humans. Maybe we should start opening something worse than Chinese gulags here in the USA so those jobs will come back from overseas?

EDIT: -1? The salt! I knew HN had its right wing (economically) bent because of its privileged demographic, but wow!
I think high profile sports people are an exception. For one, they're rich/famous/athletic and this leads to women being very forward with them. This run this lifestyle for long enough and they're bound to get into trouble. Add in that a lot of sporting clubs have heavy alcohol cultures and it's even more trouble.
What you are describing is formal methods. You can take a subset of C, use a formally-verified toolchain, and write your own formally-verified C code using proof systems.

Or perhaps what you want is a different language.

It’s just that what you’re describing—having the compiler detect UB and warn you about it, but still letting you write C code—without the burden of also writing correctness proofs using some formalism—it’s just not a viable option.

From a usability perspective, if you turn on aggressive static analysis / warning settings like this, what you usually end up with is programmers that just start ignoring warnings or turning them off, except for greenfield projects. C’s semantics don’t make this kind of thing easy. If you have a greenfield project and you are fighting the language this hard, that’s precisely the time when using a different language is the most viable option.
They’re evergreen anywhere you find people who low-key wish they could live in CA but can’t. It’s weird; just enjoy your state and do the best to make it better.

Truly don’t get why people who don’t live in CA have so many opinions about it. Most states have problems on par with their economic power and population size; not much more too it than that but “hurr liberal policies are gonna ruin the whole country!” get the low-hanging clickbait (RevContent, etc.)
And you think the people leaving are the ones that voted for this? Can you explain what leads you to think that?
I'm Texas, increased demand for housing results in production of more housing.

This keeps prices reasonable, and gives people somewhere to live.
Since cities thrive based on network effects, my question is: did everyone in past exoduses move to the same location? If not, is that not a good reason to believe this time will be different?

Smart, ambitious people tend to congregate, and capital follows. If during past exoduses, people moved to random places, I can see why SV remained the primary magnet. But, this time everyone seems to be moving to Seattle and Austin (based on my anecdotal experience of ~20 SV startups that have moved to Austin in the past 6 months).

Other things that make this time different: remote work being generally acceptable & higher state income tax

Of course, "every time is different", but eventually SV will fall. The question is just when and what the right conditions are.
I'll let my soul mate dispell such limiting thoughts:

https://www.twitter.com/desiraethinking
Are the people who are leaving the same people who vote for these policies? I suspect tech people who might move to texas are strongly YIMBY, not NIMBY.
I have the same problem with sleeping in over-the-ear headsets. The best I've found for sleeping on long flights are the Bose QC20 - the noise cancelling is as good as their over-the-ear headsets but the in-ear design makes them much more comfortable if you happen to rest your head on one side while sleeping, and doing so doesn't interrupt the noise cancellation.

Since they're cabled to an external battery box they can easily last through any flight, and you can leave the USB charge cable connected to an in-flight power socket while you use them to keep the battery full.
Many of those people and companies are coming to Austin. Austin is already awash with leftist values and California transplants. The people moving here can probably stay in an echo chamber here as well.
Yes, you are right – controllers are made on ATmega328PU chips so drivers could be easily modified and uploaded to the chips via FTDI cable. E.g. you could change color of the screen
> the government running every part of your personal life

Hyperbole much? The rest of your comment can be dismissed based on this alone.
Does anyone have more reading on this? Sounds interesting. I know Windows 7+ x64 has a user-mode scheduler but I hadn't heard of a Linux-based OS supporting this. How does it handle blocking calls and such?
Thanks Marv!
The "exodus" is referring to two companies: Oracle and HP Enterprise (spun off from HP in 2015). HPE is moving to Houston and Oracle is moving to Austin.

It also references Elon Musk moving to Austin.