skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Gebru [did something Google didn't like] and was terminated immediately.

You got that part right.

Unless I'm missing something it hardly seems outrageous.

What you're missing is the central point of contention here: that Google is claiming she "resigned" when quite plainly she was terminated. Along with the secondary point that Sundar is now trying to make it sort of look like he understands what went wrong and it apologizing for it. Except he doesn't and he isn't, really.

Gebru wrote an email to a wide audience with a series of unprofessional complaints

Would you care to enumerate what these were, specifically?
Will be actively doing testing, and will likely be among the first wave of "guinea pigs". Still going to take it, unless science says otherwise at that moment. There's a lot to be said for taking this more seriously than the current WFH group on HN (which seems to be quite a large one).
Did you just imply that it's racist to support face mask requirements and mandatory stay-at-home orders? Is it racist to support legislation against drunk driving? Against firing guns into the air? Against throwing objects out of cars and off overpasses?
> There's no product reason why App Engine couldn't start deploying custom containers.

There better not be because it already does: https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/flexible/custom-runt...
They typically need to go for much longer for two reasons:

1. You normally don't expose so many people to an untested medicine, so trials tend to be smaller than this. In this case there was no shortage of volunteers, and the larger the trial the faster it can reach a certain level of confidence in a result.

2. Normally, with vaccines, you need to wait a very long time for enough people to contract the disease and measure how effective it actually is. In this case, there are so many people infected in the general population, that reaching the required number of participants infected happened much faster than usual. In fact, when the trial was planned in the spring, it was expected that it wouldn't reach its required 164 infected participants until sometime in late summer 2021. The reason this happened so quick is that the number of infections in the general population exploded, and so the required data was available much earlier.
> And even better, actually deciding that politics is pretty insignificant

Unless you think civil liberties are at stake. The Supreme Court will be tilted to a way I believe is harmful for my children’s future, and personal health, and so I consider politics to be very significant.
The 'IS LIFE' was probably meant to go at the end.

"BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH IS LIFE"
I will not be taking anything under any sort of widespread social pressure or appeals to authority. I fundamentally lack trust in modern medicine and society in general to the point that it doesn't matter what "scientific evidence" says. Modern medical care gives us robotic, heartless nonsense like "routine" circumcision. Humanity cannot be trusted to act intelligently and empathically on a collective level.

I'm a skeptic asshole who second guesses claims just because I have access to Google scholar and sci-hub, a good for nothing contrarian made dangerous by the internet. Adult hall monitors trying to shame people over anything covid-related are disgusting people. I'll take the firing squad before any injections.

To some degree it doesn't matter what sort of revelations or facts I come across, not that they can't or won't change my opinions. They will, and I can admit being wrong. I'm very much interested in an empirical worldview. This is different, however. It's "fuck you, I don't trust you to work in my best interests".
its also location dependent. the cdn for the free tier is different (less PoPs) than the cdn for the enterprise tier.
Remember Thalidomide? Remember asbestos?

I'll wait.
Early thinking is that the virus still lives in the throat and can still be passed if you have had the vaccine. You won't get sick but the whole problem with this virus is people spreading it because they have not yet developed symptoms. Short answer, it doesn't look like it no.
I’ve seen lawn mowers that do that. No solar charging, but it does cut grass in the dark. It’s actually pretty creepy to see the head light pop out from behind a corner.
Who is it that repeats the "fine people on both sides" comment again and again, never mentioning Trump's explicit condemnation of white nationalists? It's not Trump, or the Republicans. It's Democrats and the Democrat-supporting news media. If there are any white nationalists taking comfort from the (incorrect) idea that the US president is sympathetic to their cause, it is not Trump's fault. It is, to be blunt, YOUR fault.

And the same for bleach. Why did the news media portray Trump's comments as a recommendation for people to drink bleach, rather than (correctly) portray him as suggesting research into something related to bleach? (If they have to criticize Trump, they could then mock him for thinking he knows anything about what the promising directions in medical research are.)

We all know why, don't we? They prioritized political gains over lives.

ADDED: To address your other point: Sure, one might be able to argue that people wanting to keep up a statue of Robert E. Lee are really more or less white nationalists. Just as you can argue that people in favour of a minimum wage are really more or less communists. Conflating these "more or less X" views with actual X is not a recipe for maintaining a stable democratic society.
I use Streaks habit tracker, Apple Watch and Shortcuts. Streaks can pick up health data to keep my on track for my weekly sleep and exercise goals. And I’ve set up Shortcuts so it increments a counter in Streaks to keep track of when I open Instagram or Twitter. That stops me from mindlessly checking social media but allows me a couple of visits in a day without it breaking the streak.
The world’s twin energy problem: high emissions and energy poverty
That's such a happy, beautiful story. EV and EV Nova are still some of my all time favorite games. I used to have to play it at a friends house because he had a Power Mac so when it came to Windows I was beyond excited.

Thanks for being part of all of that!
Iron-based storage seems promising...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24996153
I have heard that a large chunk of the employable software engineers in the United States are located in the Bay Area. Because of this, it is almost a requirement that if you are a company in a hyper-growth phase, you need to be in the Bay Area, otherwise you will struggle to hire enough people. Maybe that will change post-COVID, but I doubt it. Certainly we can expect more companies to be supportive of remote work, and I think that's a good thing.
Surely there is also not enough information on how long after vaccination someone is protected. This doesn't seem like a strong argument to me.

If infection with the actual virus doesn't confer immunity, I don't see much reason to think that the vaccine will work any better.
People aren't perfect. Mistakes abound. If the bare minimum for a position was "no mistakes" you'd never find a qualified candidate. I'll go further and add that your attitude makes things worse in practice because since mistake can, and do happen, your wholesale rejection incentivizes effort spent hiding mistakes and scapegoating. That's effort that could have gone into getting useful work done.
Most towns won't do this because most of its existing tax base will hate it despite it being a good idea. And they vote!
If that is the case everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game and I can't imagine that this would be the norm, especially since I suspect the thieves will get greedy and screw up quickly.
No, they mean the administration that still hasn't provided for adequate PPE, that turned down the offer of another 100 million doses of the 95% efficacy Pfizer vaccine, which is available now, and instead bought 300 million doses of the Astra-Zenica 62% efficacy vaccine, which does not meet the task force's minimum efficacy requirements and will not be available until summer.
How is it “natural” for many industries to coalesce into oligopoly? This requires a legal system with strong property rights for corporations and lax competition law enforcement. These conditions have not always existed. You can argue that the status quo is welfare-optimising, but I don’t see what’s natural about it.
also CI/CD + CDN + serverless functions + identity + forms...
Next time somebody tells you they're just following the science, simply ask them to explain it so you can understand.
For one because 3% of 7 billion is a lot. For another, because a good percentage of those who survive will have super long recovery times and suffer needlessly. For a third, because are you willing to risk it being considered a preexisitng condition and not having your lungs covered by any medical insurance in the future?

And lastly because it’s really fucking dumb to skip it because “I’ll only kill 3% of my friends and family.” Don’t be a nitwit. Get the fucking vaccine.
Curious do you feel crummy after other vaccinations like Flu, MMR, etc? Or was this the first time with those symptoms from a vaccine?
Why do I need the vaccine? I can just just setup rsync on a Linux box instead.
That's great to hear. He's still generous and giving to developer communities in what he's doing now. Learned a ton from him and his tools make our work better.
Indeed... natural phenomena do not go away when human beings get tired of talking about them.
They don't replace ads. Brave allows you to block ads (just like any ad-blocker). Separately, you can opt-in to see Brave ads via system notifications.

Accusations of stealing are pretty foul. Please can we keep the discussion focused on the facts?
> But paucisymptomatic transmission – transmission before symptoms have manifested in people who will eventually be symptomatic – is much less rare.

The definition you give is for presymptomatic not paucisymptomatic (the latter is basically having trivial/mild symptoms that don’t raise complaints), but transmission in both cases is a significant risk, much more so than true asymptomatic transmission.
Fwiw, every time I have taken a flu shot, it has guaranteed 2/3 days of feeling horrible.

That said, I don’t get the flu every year (iirc, I’ve had it twice in the past 20 years).
The microchip is not a opposite viewpoint. It is a fantasy that is trivially debunked.

It is on the same level of the viewpoint that the vaccine is unicorn blood.
In 2020 there’s science and The Science. The latter seems to be more religious in its application and what it means to its devotees. That makes life difficult.
If I acted the way Gebru did when I was upset by a professional setback, would I expect to be fired? Yes, unequivocally.

Fair enough. Then Google should call it what it is.

And apologized for having lied about it - and what an insult to everyone's intelligence this was.
Looking at the data, you're right.
Well luckily we _do_ know what happens with a great deal of certainty when you get actually infected with covid, and it turns out it sucks pretty hard.

i find this "better the devil you know" mindset really weird when the "devil you know" is an extremely infectious virus that has killed _three hundred thousand_ americans (not to mention more worldwide), and thousands more by the day.

these hypothetical vaccine side effects that have not come up during any of the trials that have been going on for _months_, across thousands and thousands of participants, would have to be pretty insanely bad in order to outweigh the negatives of millions more people contracting the actual virus.
Not sure how to take an incapable president seriously, other than he's very good at manipulating. Letting hundreds of thousands die while providing special treatment for himself and his cronies. However, there must be grave concerns that should be addressed politically, that shouldn't be ignored by either party. It seems both parties are hostage by the political system and dark background billionaires. Unfortunately, either is unable to break the stalemate into more constructive middle-grounds. This is the most serious concern, that this is exactly the intention.
Wow -- the cards keep falling.

I wonder though how many companies will renege or are simply blustering in an effort to extract concessions from California?
> I'll take the firing squad before any injections.

You know that firing squads aren't usually working in your best interests, right?
Free sites like Netflix to watch free movies (they are all legit and safe)
> That month, "is ted cruz the zodiac killer" was the second highest suggestion in Google's autocomplete for "is ted", but by April it was not in the autocomplete at all.[1][5] News.com.au writer Matthew Dunn suggested that Google was censoring the search term, showing evidence that it accounted for 89% of total searches when compared to other terms in the autocomplete

How often does google censor autocomplete? Does apple do this on their keyboard as well?
Is most YC advice completely wrong for hard tech? Market vs. technical risk
It isn't. Provided you got consent, defined the scope in which the data will be used and is held accountable to not change the scope without clearly asking for consent again.

This also requires the user to trust you will act within the scope defined, and that can be hard to verify. From a user perspective it's generally safer to just not grant consent.
Nice! Are they going to spread out into other areas? Drilling rigs? Muckers? Something to replace the Sandvik rigs and fully automate drilling and blasting would be cool. They are already partially automated (pattern, depth) but require a human to operate. I think getting humans out of mines should reduce insurance costs and health risks.
Not who you're replying to, but not for ignorance.

On the other hand, if someone knows they've been exposed and still behave carelessly, I'm absolutely fine with charging people with attempted murder, endangering the public health, or something similar.
Well, I'm wrong but why are you so certain I was intentionally lying?

I was probably misremembering something I read on Slashdot in the 90s.

I don't think you're lying about saying I'm lying... you're just wrong (as I know my own intent)
Thanks Tom. Always loved having you work there, definitely tried to work to live rather than live to work! /andrew
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Maybe just Palemoon, but the archived copy’s a bit glitchy for me: https://ibb.co/3vK1zwv
I'm going to agree but offer a different focus. The agreement is in that YouTube can do this legally and that is not the problem.

But this is also about the practice of ideals. I watched a Chris Martinson video (PhD neurotoxicology, runs something of a prepping channel on YouTube because he doesn't see how the current US approach will resolve comfortably for people who trust the government) on Vimeo the other day because they'd yanked it from YouTube (it discussed the coronavirus). If it has reached the point where YouTube won't let a medical PhD talk about medical research, what use is this platform to me? Music videos, I suppose.

The reason free speech is ideal happens to be because it is better - YouTube is less fit for purpose as an information distributor, it doesn't represent a full spectrum of opinions. I already know what the official government message is - they have a website. I read it on occasion.
>I'm a skeptic asshole who second guesses claims just because I have access to Google scholar and sci-hub, a good for nothing contrarian made dangerous by the internet.

Watch out everybody, we got ourselves a badass over here.
In my personal life, I try to have kind, reasoned discussion. This is sometimes effective.

In general I agree with the news media complaints in this thread. In February this was all just racism against the Chinese. In March masks didn't slow infections. A vaccine has been a month away since April. We should be so afraid of brown people overseas that we should bomb them before they get us. Trump is Putin's buddy. Etc. All bullshit. If someone had been trying to undermine public confidence in journalism, they might have made the same editorial decisions. I totally understand why people don't believe what they're told. I have myself been accused of skepticism.

Let's not despair, however. It is still possible to learn facts about the world around us. The headline on TFA shouldn't surprise anyone; I've been thinking the same thing for weeks. (Granted, I'm a moron not a CDC director. However, I don't have the wishful thinking disease that nearly everyone on TV seems to have.) Even so, it is news to someone. Vaccines, even if they're effective and available, aren't going to save us for many months. More people could be wearing masks right now. Some people will start wearing masks, this week, in response to the perfectly natural comparison between covid and 9/11.
Texas isn't precisely poor. Sure, 20 years ago California was a magnet for startups, but that is apparently vanishing as the democrat curtain closes in.

Also, I reply to the poster above, since "I am posting too fast"

@jeffbee

It's not how it works. In the last 30 years people have tended to clusters of population. Specially the most skilled and immigrants. The clusters of population in US are California, New York, Houston and Chicago, 3 of which are democrat. Thats how it started. Now 3 of these clusters will start decreasing, and one will grow. Guess which.

The same story of urbanization happened in China, Japan, Europe, Russia, etc..
I will take it as soon as possible.

I don't have allergic reactions.

The risk of the vaccine on 50k people has proven safer than a random sample of 50k people exposed to Covid-19.
A lot of people don't spend time outside in most places :|

I personally like the heat (over the cold). I mountain bike with my kids at dawn in summer. We camp in Flagstaff which is 30-40 deg cooler (7500ft elevation) and only 2 hours away.
I pulled down a copy of HN earlier in the year for analysis and was shocked to find polls among the data. It was a very small % of the total content, small enough I assumed it was an old feature that got removed.
Fair, but for the record, the algorithm is open source and runs locally on your machine.
Hard not to reflect on the great example set by Aaron Swartz leading the way to reform PACER when no one else would. Rest in peace.
Sadly my license key was lost along with my old AIM email address (!), and the Ambrosia representative I spoke to was unable retrieve it for me. I'll have to try finding the cracked version...
Maybe SpaceX should raise a cryptocurrency ICO?
Why would I read the FAQ if I don't have any questions?
It seemed like you were suggesting that the COVID deaths should have less impact because it wasn't a terrorist attack.
And who can forget the crab walk from ALL SHALL FALL: https://gfycat.com/afraidnastyflatcoatretriever
My engine supports back to Netscape 2.0, Mosaic 3.0, and IE 3.0, among many others. Support for even earlier browsers is intended.
I'm speechless, even in a mid-end android phone every animation is smooth, is like dark magic to me.
Oh I’m sad (and totally unsurprised) to hear that.

I wonder if there will ever be an exodus from Austin similar in scope to the influx of the past decade. If I could time travel I would definitely visit Austin through the years to see how it was and how it ends up.
> Modern medical care gives us robotic, heartless nonsense like "routine" circumcision.

That's more of a religious thing.
Pandemrix caused many cases of narcolepsia not only in Sweden, but in Finland too. (And other countries, but in lesser numbers)

Apparently there are two types of narcolepsia, type 1 is an autoimmune reaction against a hormone which regulates wakefulness and sleep. Pandemrix caused the type 1 in some people.

The whole situation is quite well known in Sweden and Finland. Over the years, there have been news articles and documentaries on TV, and so on. It is very sad to see young children injured for life because of a vaccine which was supposed to be safe.

The majority of the cases got symptoms in a few months, but some after 1.5 years.

To crown this whole debacle, internal GSK documents with signals of safety concerns were ignored (Pandemrix adverse effects were compared to an almost identical vaccine called Arepanrix). [1]

I took the Pandemrix back in the days. I'm definitely not an "anti-vaxxer", but sorry, I won't be the first in line for another rushed pandemia vaccine.

[1] https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/glaxosmithkline-fails-...

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> I wondered if you'd omitted it because it wasn't present in those people you knew.

Yes, I only mentioned people which were consistent with the TIV template in the article.

> I kind of wonder though, if the way we end up classifying these things is unreasonably influenced by the existing classifications which maybe just sort of coalesced from observations that psychologists have made of their patients. Since they're often things that people won't get treated or don't even think of as disorders.

Unfortunately, It's possible. Moreover, some traits are not considered as illnesses until it starts to affect one's life (hoarding, some forms of OCD, etc.).

Another problem is, as noted by some other comments, TIV looks like a siamese twin of narcissism when looked from a specific angle. It might be just narcissism without self esteem, or as I've seen in one person might be completely different trait because it can be devoid of narcissistic traits or traces while being extremely efficient in draining someone without giving itself away until just before the victim proverbially dies.

Since psychology is not an exact science, it'll always be up to debate I think, however this trait is a good candidate to think well on. It's much more common than it seems.
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It could just be better policing. If you catch someone after they kill once or twice, they don’t get the chance to become a serial killer. But I haven’t looked up any stats on this.
Extreme capitalism is a society where the risk taken is not just encouraged, it's a necessity.

Ironically, in such societies, people will latch on to anything that provides stability. For example, vocational degree that signals high skills or petitioning for NIMBY laws.

The reason people latch on to these is simple. There is too much to lose. The crash is too deep. If one loses a job, they lose healthcare. Not because of shortages like 200 years ago, but because of the extreme capitalism taking over healthcare, incentivizing providers and insurance companies to lobby for shitty laws instead of true competition.
> My question is how someone can justify paying $550 dollars for headphones from Apple. I can get mid-range studio quality headphones for that price, from a company that is actually focused on producing the best headphones.

The exact same people that buy Beats headphones instead of AKG or Beyerdynamic prior to Beats getting acquired by Apple. In other words people who buy them as a status symbol, not for their function, because they themselves are not informed consumers.
Hrmn. There are an awful lot of luxury products out there. When folks are driving around on $50k+ cars, I’m not sure what’s wrong with $500+ headphones. (Not that I’m about to buy either.)
I made that game in college with the help of some very talented artists, and my friends who helped with the sound effect. It was written on a Mac IIsi IIRC! We def had fun making it (and playing it while making it) /andrew
Mercator: An ESP32-based spherical persistence-of-vision display
> everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game

Agree. From how prevalently I watched tests get mis-allocated a few months ago, however, I’m not optimistic about enforcement. Particularly given the political implications it would have for the leaders in power, who are supposed to be doing a better job at this.