skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
They hijack ads to show their own ads.

The only interesting thing about Brave is they haven't yet been sued into oblivion.
There is nothing anti-privacy about an 'account'. Someone having an arbitrary email address doesn't constitute a breach of privacy.

Downloading games is greatly enhanced by accounts.

Playing most games require accounts.

Banning cheaters effectively requires accounts.

It's 100% perfectly fine and there is nothing wrong with it.

The hyperbole here gets really tiring after a while.
What aspect of Brave's model here was specifically anti-consumer? Instead of just being, say, anti-Apple-IAP.
No way with getting off the thread’s rails. This is a good point and your examples of How strong some of your comments are for referrals is helpful.
Ocean Cleanup gets ready to tackle most polluting rivers
It's a warning about the future... from the 1980s.

It's more an alt history at this point.
My understanding is that these sorts of events are most dangerous to very long cables (miles long, like telegraph cables or power lines). Unless there's surges as transformers blow up, your electronics at home should be fairly safe.
Loved your analogy
There's an episode where someone is forced to watch adverts for rewards, and they're harangued if they close their eyes. I can't remember the details, but it's the concept of explicitly selling your attention that caught my eye. It seems pretty dystopian to me.
What problem would this solve?

Seems like it would just be bureaucratic nightmare and a tax drain if you're leaving the exceptions up to a new court. I mean, even in the criminal system the current wait times for trials are about 2 years. That money would be better spent on adding courts to the existing system, you know, to give people their constitutionally guaranteed right to a speedy trial.
Your domain gets banned in that specific subreddit?
The s-expressions in lisps and clojure are one of my favorite attractions. There's so much less cognitive load when the syntax is so simple. Elixir, another great language, has a painfully complicated syntax (plus a lot of syntactic sugar and cases of there's more than one way to do something).

Clojure is a bit noisier than lisp in terms of syntax, but it's also more expressive. I find the balance and design choices pretty reasonable.
(crickets...)
Obscure and complex are different concepts. I'm part of that "secondary consulting market" FWIW, so I'd like to think I know a thing or two about it.

Does AWS have high-margin prices? In aggregate, somewhat, but this is mostly driven by the big ticket managed enterprise items: Aurora, Redshift, Quicksight, probably Fargate, etc. A lot of their more popular stuff (S3, Lambda, …) offer incredible value for very little money. EC2 is the exception I believe, because I understand it to be high margin for how popular it is. But EC2 pricing is one of their simplest ones.

Could AWS simplify some of their pricing? Yes, probably. There's always room for optimization. Personally for example I'd like to see their pricing be global rather than different by region (with understandable exceptions for govcloud and china).

Is AWS making its pricing complicated for nefarious purposes? No, there is no evidence to support that.

AWS pricing absolutely is not simple. It's a part of the AWS stack. You need to study AWS's events/signals system to be able to write apps that make the best use of AWS's interconnected stack. You need to study their APIs / SDKs to really understand what you're able to implement. And you need to study their billing systems to understand how to implement apps that run cheaply, and be able to predict potential runaway costs.

It has to be a part of the design. That's why you may want to hire consultants for it: People who understand it better than you do, and will be able to assist you in reducing your costs.

It's just another kind of optimization. Maybe some software engineers don't like it because it hits them where it hurts (the wallet) when they don't do it right, rather than be able to brush it off as they usually do.

It's much easier to ignore the waste produced by, say for example, the 3000 javascript dependencies shipped with the fat, unoptimized electron app they ship on their users' desktops, that do a ton of unnecessary expensive computing; when all that crap is client-side and it's the downstream user's electricity bills and CPU time that's being used.
Let's take a moment of silence in solidarity with all the engineers who will now have to make their company's blog support this.
Downtime has cost.

But being able to blow away a k8s node and bring it back up in 2 minutes (or have k8s auto-spawn a replacement node) is WAY faster than having to reinstall wordpress, reinstall nginx, set IP addresses, fiddle with your DNS, restore a database from a backup, etc, etc, etc.
This article is basically saying: "leverage network effects to make yourself immune to competition". I get the logic, but think it is bad for society. Our system of innovation relies on continual competition. And when I look at big companies with big network effects (Visa, Facebook, Twitter, etc.), I find that I dislike all of them, wish they faced competition, wish customers had choice, and also wish employees had choice. I'm not sure what the right solution is here, because customers do derive value from social features that are executed well. But such a moat lends itself to a lack of real competition.
From TFA: * Of course, it won’t upend textbooks or revolutionize math research, Ullisch concedes, because this problem is an isolated one. “It’s not connected to other problems or embedded within a mathematical theory.”*

A island peak hinting at a submerged continent of mathematics.

Unfortunately since our brains evolved (under a regime of calorie cost vs survival benefit) and are therefore limited, we might never discover the continent.
We’re living in a cyberpunk dystopia. Fiction of the past (1984, blade runner) were exaggerated extrapolations of the path we have been on. The path was clear then and it’s clear now. Nothing has changed.
There is an episode where you essentially directly pay with attention. Each episode is different, often inducing "mind fuck" with respect to alternative futures based on differing societal or behavioral standards
Fair point - it's probably a mix of both. But I find the idea of selling attention to be a fundamentally unsettling one.
Incisive and based in clear economic motivation -- that sounds more like the big G these days. George Washington himself warned against the meddling of foreign powers in our democracy, but if we cannot entertain discussion on such things it's unlikely we'll be able to detect it.
From what I read in Blood, Sweat, and Pixels, he’s kind of a case study in what NOT to do. I’m very glad Stardew Valley ended up being a commercial success, but if I were his friend at any point in his process I would’ve tried to get him to get something into the users’ hands immediately.
I just want to say Brave has been an awesome browser. It’s fast, it blocks ads, it upgrades connections to SSL, it’s stable. Runs great on desktop and mobile.

I’ve never once cared or noticed the crypto stuff. It’s a simple toggle off.

We’ve deployed Brave across our entire enterprise worldwide, mobile and desktop.

The negative anti-Brave campaign that comes sweeping through every time Brave is posted on HN is probably all (or mostly) from Google and Firefox employees. My guess is that they are very scared of Brave because they realize how good it is and they are scared of the competition.
Exactly. You can't have a monopoly on stupidity. If idiots want to pay extra to buy into a walled garden nothing should stop them. Apple customers pay for lack of functionality and to signal to others how much money they have. A FAR cry from a monopoly.
eh, I had an AirBnB in Houston, TX in the summer with no AC. We left before the first night, and AirBnB wouldn't even give me my money back, much less a suitable place to stay.

They aren't an honest company, they're just burning through goodwill.
Yup. I can't even access the new version. I've attempted to email them asking if they'd keep the perfect content-centric HTML-as-a-document site up but never received any responses.
Most CPUs are not hitting 100 percent anyways so what's a 10 percent loss?
All machine learning happens locally with Brave. The user retains control of their data.

https://brave.com/intro-to-brave-ads/
> They control all ingress onto their platform. Nothing gets on that they don't want.

> Then they proceed to control the economic activity of everyone in the Apple ecosystem.

> You literally cannot do business with Apple customers.

This describes every brick & mortar store ever and just about every gaming console since the NES. I'm not sure what differentiates Apple from Nintendo or Target here.
You don't need one. But it's extremely useful in most cases, necessary for many things (playing other players, game accounts) and absolutely nothing privacy-invading about it. Giving someone a random e-mail has nothing to with identity. You're giving someone a random set of characters, so that if you chose to re-engage with that entity, you have some way of doing that.
I know we're in December, but I still made sure to double-check the date...
3 people, ~12 cards each - that's about a binder of cards, I'd say. If they had good credit to begin with, it would take some time for it to degrade.
FBI Fraud Probe Catches SF Mayor London Breed
> Every monopoly dispute comes down to defining the market in question. Whether the market is phones, tablets, smartwatches or personal computers, Apple's market share comes nowhere near close to being a monopoly.

Exactly, which is why it's in no way clear that "Apple's market share comes nowhere near close to being a monopoly." If you defined Standard Oil's market as "fuels," it wasn't a monopoly because it was competing against coal and wood. If you defined AT&T's market as "communication services," it wasn't a monopoly because it was competing against TV, Radio, and the Post Office. And if you defined Apple's market as "3rd party software distribution, in general," you'd get the same result, but maybe not if its market is "3rd party software distribution for ~45% of all American phone users."

Since the advent of antitrust law, every monopolist has a definition of its market that magically makes it not a monopoly and obscures its anticompetitive behavior; but that's not the definition we should use to judge them.
It does not sound like the same thing if you are not forced to watch ads (I think you have to opt in to receive rewards). In fact what Brave does is they replace existing ads, iirc.
As J. Paul Getty once mused[1]:

> If you owe the bank $100 that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.

Crappy situation for OP and his startup, but I find the part about reading up on bankruptcy to be a bit premature.

Perhaps not the most ethical choice, but what stops OP from just not paying the bill, and finding a different cloud provider? Obviously they'll want to not repeat the "experiment", but seriously... there's no mechanism at Google to stop a new client from running up a near-$100k bill in a single day?

That's absurd, and should be a learning lesson for Google more than this startup. Some malicious actor could apparently consume hundreds of thousands of dollars of Google resources and "get away" with it.

Wait and see what happens, then deal with it - would be sane advice.

[1] https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/j_paul_getty_129274
I think you know the real answer to both your question to the insurer and your 2nd question.
I wouldn’t mind if the app started up and said, “download the $country_or_region extension,” but that is just me (assuming it doesn’t require re-creating an account, or re-entering billing details).
My understanding is that one paragraph should represent one idea. The OP article certainly doesn't follow this. It seems like it made a new paragraph out of what should have been a sentence, and it made a new section out of what should have been a paragraph.
Does HN auto remove the word "penis" from submissions or is that just a typo?
Each episode presents a dystopia based on an element of our current world, overstretched, in a way that makes you uncomfortable because it looks like we are almost there.

And actually, some episodes have been realized since their release.
In this particular case the harm isn’t obvious, but the benefit isn’t either.

Safari and Firefox both have good options for blocking ads on iOS.

The larger point is that the benefits of lots of garbage being filtered out are worth it even at the expense of niche capabilities, like IR blasters or selling my attention.
Solving River Crossing Puzzles with MiniZinc
Doesn't seem like ENI trunking is yet supported for r5b?
Can I just pay the sites that I visit with money directly? I would say "can I buy BAT" but I don't like that this makes brave the middleman.
Oh god no
And let's take a moment of silence in solidarity for all engineers who worked on this when this gets scraped.
The private HS advantages are rubbing shoulders with other kids whose parents can afford private HS. You're much more likely to meet friends whose parents are in a position such that your friend can max out their credit cards.

Same is not true of any private college, since the government hands out loans without discretion to anyone. A selective college, however, offers you similar benefits.
Acute mortality of NW Pacific salmon due to tire rubber residues
I don't understand your point, if you have one.
> I'd need some evidence that 1.1 million gallons is a drop in the bucket

As I said, 1 million gallons of water evaporates from Lake Michigan every 10 seconds. That’s the deal: where water is abundant, it’s really abundant.

Almost all of the cost of municipal water, for example, is from building and maintaining the distribution system. In non-arid areas, there almost never is any shortage of water at the source, and water pricing is priced per use not because it costs that much to “produce it” or because the reservoirs are running short, but rather to limit the use so that there is no need to expand water carrying infrastructure.

If Nestle is building its own infrastructure, and the water is so abundant that there is absolutely no risk of it running anywhere close to short, why should the government or people care? Suppose Nestle builds a farm of windmills, that slows down a million gallons of moving air by 20 miles per hour every day. To be sure, they would be using up large amounts of natural resource, the wind energy. Should they pay significant fees for the privilege? I don’t think so; that would be completely ludicrous.

There are of course circumstances where Nestle should pay more. For example, if they were using water coming from government built and maintained infrastructure, or if the water was not so abundant as it is in Michigan. For example, if they were pulling it from deep aquifer that’s depleting faster than its refilling, as it is the case in many places of arid Southwest. But, to my knowledge, none of this is the case for Nestle in Michigan.
We’ve been following a similar process for our internal tools and have found it to be a good solution. Manually including native libraries is probably the only lousy part. Out of curiosity, what are you using to achieve the windows service installation? We’ve been using nssm, which has worked okay, but I’m curious if there’s a better way of doing it.
In the episode “Fifteen Million Merits” the main character is fed ads on the walls of his bedroom and his eyes are tracked. If he wants the ads to stop and close his eyes in peace he has to pay a small fee each time.
Getting away with it until you’re worth $3.5B through fundraising is pretty good. Makes it seem like you shouldn’t care about the issue. It only becomes an issue when you’re already really successful.
I can drop Stripe as quickly as I can add another payment processor to my codebase and still have access to the same market.

I can't do the same with Apple.
I think that's pretty much going to be N-Gate's summary of this post :D
It's got a real "back streets of Shinjuku after dark" vibe for sure.
Everyone:

Google: Stories are cool now, no?
It's a great library for a lot of things. When originally introduced it was also heavily oversold by Apple as a magic bullet for concurrency.

Here's one account: https://tclementdev.com/posts/what_went_wrong_with_the_libdi...
Lerner is a fairly common German/Jewish last name
Solving the tech part of the issue while ignoring the societal aspect is somewhat condemning millions to misery though. Here in the US, it's expected you work, the economy and society are built around it, and millions of people would scream at you for trying to make a system that some people "don't have to" work in
Should not be considered secure, only for research. Dang it. The premise sounded really cool!
Deploy an Alexa Skill and Get an Echo
Chocolate+Peanut+Butter+Cup+Cookies
It's pretty obvious that collecting a binder full of maxed out credit cards is a bad idea that most would avoid. The point PG is making is one of contrast - despite how dumb this is, they did it anyways (and it happened to pay off). He's not endorsing this action.

Why can't we get back to a place of finding the good in every story/person instead of trying to tell everyone that they're doing something wrong?

Also, holy cow! From credit card debt to billions. It makes the story that much better!
Completely agree. They are even using tiles for the radar image which makes it look awful and blocky because they don't all load properly.. unlike the local radar of current version which is the entire image of that radar site.
Wow, I guess this is what FOMO looks like when taken to the b2c megacorp level.

It feels like a safe bet that this is Google+ all over again, and it'll fail just as badly. But hey, set a 5 year reminder and I'll happily take the "I was wrong" on this if I indeed am.
Sure, that makes sense. I was responding to the grandparent post which argued for no accounts at all.
I don't understand why you can't have the Apple controlled platform you want while I have the freedom to use the hardware I bought however I want. I really don't get why Apple won't let me opt out of this restrictive stuff you like so much on the phone I paid for.
Wow that was neat to see him build and troubleshoot.

That said, I'm starting to have a problem with all these creator videos on youtube, and that is the fact they pay for so little of their stuff. It's frustrating to have to scrimp and save in hopes of buying a cool project like this to only see a video of someone get a bunch of them for free to make videos of them.
> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data.

-- https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
True, which is what I meant why I said the Apple situation is more complex. I was responding more to the phrase "you literally cannot do business with Apple customers."
I also like his floating point numbers' explorer
https://float.exposed/0x3fb999999999999a
Looking forward to how this will clutter simple Google search results!
oh cool! another google product that's going to be deprecated in a couple of years
It'll be dead within 18-24 months.
Anyone has the unpaywalled version ?
for anyone in your circles
> And all that just by selling some cheap cut syntax sugar on the corner.

I suppose you could dismiss a lot of what Kotlin adds as mere syntactic sugar. But it also makes some much more fundamental improvements. It provides a much cleaner, unified, object-oriented type system. It provides about as sane an approach to null safety as is possible on the JVM. (Clojure's is arguably better, but I'll concede that nil punning is not for everyone.) And it provides a clean set of core libraries that doesn't have nearly as many friction points and inconsistencies as the core JDK does.
Limited hang out.
> It's up to the charlatans filing the frivolous lawsuits to "PROVE" their claims

This is true. It is up to them to prove it.

> I've already provided you with links and citations, but you're ignoring them, so I'm not going to waste my time on that again, since you're arguing in bad faith, and have already proven you won't read them anyway.

These are the three links you provided, prior to this post:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll#Concern_troll
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/09/944744105/trump-asks-supreme-...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZmyFid7FRg&ab_channel=LateN...

The first link is an ad hominem attack. The substance of the second link is summarized by the below quote from that link:
"As election law expert Richard Hasen put it about the Texas filing, "This is a press release masquerading as a lawsuit. ... What utter garbage. Dangerous garbage, but garbage."
That link was entirely missing in substance and provided no useful information, it just called the lawsuit "garbage" without providing any detail.
The third link (youtube) was likewise missing in substance and was very similar in substance/style as the second link.

I didn't realize you were expecting a response to these links, as they have no meaningful substance.

If you can provide a link with meaningful substance, that counters the specific claims being made in the Texas lawsuit, or any other election lawsuit, I would like to see it.

> If you support states rights so much, then why do you support Texas interfering in other states rights, or does it only go one way?

I actually don't think Texas should be interfering in other states elections. The reason I posted a link to the Texas lawsuit, is that the document very well summarizes the evidence that is available in the various states.

If Texas loses that lawsuit because the judges determine that "Texas has no business interfering with other states elections", that would be a positive outcome for me.

If it's fine with you, I'll disregard the rest of your post as it was based on a faulty assumption, and seems to be getting off topic. If you have anything productive to add please do so, but I would prefer if you stay away from the ad hominem attacks / strawman arguments.
OP claims that the budgets are not real time, they are eventually accurate but if it happens that you spend too fast you may end up with a larger than your budget sum before anything triggers.
Thanks apple, the worlds richest, most petty company ever
Related although previously cited on HN
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/sunday/pornhub-ra...
Well, I did not have this in mind but I can't wait for the N-Gate summary now!
If both of the candidates are crooked liars, how do you choose? I picked the party that I think is closer to being right.
How is a cryptocurrency that anyone can transact with a closed model??
I sure hope not. One of the reasons I still stick with Android is because of Firefox on Android
Too bad the game is an unfinished mess and the PS4/Xbox One version is pretty much a scam in its current form. 20fps (not even stable!) and blurry ultra low 720p textures. Just unexcusable. I feel bad for everyone with last gen consoles getting this as a christmas gift. So as for the devs. Work 6 days a week for year and now continue to do the same for bugfixing and working on the PS5/Xbox Series X version
I wonder how what they are working on relates to what's discussed here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvZA9n3e5pc
I say just ruin the information collected. let them fingerprint you all they want, make the data collected extremely useless
One or the other, I think they usually try to put you on a PIP before firing though. It can feel like an up or out kind of culture, but the timelines are fairly reasonable IMO - e.g. they give you 5 years to progress from an entry-level SWE to mid/senior-level SWE (L3 -> L5).