skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> When will platforms start to be charged for their mistakes?

When they start to charge their customers.

I know I’ll get downvoted first this, but this kind of thing happens because each user in general is earning them cents and the the only way to enforce their policies is to do it on mass with automation and review by a human if the person complains (and then often rushed and not very well).

Although some large accounts will get account managers and are handled more carefully. The truth is that even if these are deleted, their viewers will just spend their time watching others.
In some ways, this entire site exists to promote him.
> The ex-Googler reflected that he missed the possibility of pages that link back to each other, causing "infinite recursion."

Although tangential to the billing issue, this is reckless. If you’re building a crawler of any kind, please, please, please prioritize ensuring this doesn’t happen so I don’t have to wake up at 3 AM.

I run the infrastructure for a moderate-sized site with probably about a hundred million pages or so. We can handle the HN hug-of-death just fine. But poorly-made crawlers that recurse like this? They’re increasingly problematic.

If your solution to fixing your crawler is “throw more concurrency at it and ignore the recursion,” and suddenly your requests start timing out, that’s a pretty damn strong hint that you’re ruining someone’s day.

From my perspective, this will look like an attack. I’ll see thousands of IP addresses repeatedly requesting the same pages, usually with generic user agent headers. Which ones are actual attacks, and which are just poorly-made crawlers? Well, if you’ve got a generic user agent string that doesn’t link to a contact page, and you’re circumventing rate limiting by changing your IP address, and you had the bright idea to let your test code run overnight, I’m going to treat it as an attack. At 3 AM, I’m not inclined to differentiate between negligence and malice.

This is happening more and more often, and I partially blame it on the ease of “accidentally” obtaining a ridiculous quantity of cloud resources. People deploy shoddy test code and go to bed. They turn it off in the morning when they see the bill.

It’s become so prevalent that our company has come up with an internal term for these crawlers that spin up a new thread/container for every page: snowballing crawlers.

Save a sysadmin: don’t snowball.

Oh, and include a useful user agent header so we can contact you instead of your cloud provider.
For HN, I would say that rational is the normal that we hope to maintain.
Does how long you keep it matter? I wouldn’t think so, since the dopamine hit only lasts a few seconds. In fact, replacing it quickly would only reinforce the skinner box cycle.
Is there an easy way to de-AMP?
Most users probably don't trust them much at all, but trust them just enough for the very minimal uses they might need them for. I would not use a consumer vpn if my life or liberty depended on it.
What’s incredible is that people presented themselves as “witnesses” and stated, under oath, stories that they just read on some random blog and not events they witnessed personally.

You would have thought the lawyers who prepped them would have stopped them from wasting the courts' time.
DRM really does ruin everything, eh?
People can start protesting getting killed randomly by the police once anything remotely resembling that starts to happen.
I'm naturally concerned about this because my brother in law has a regular, ongoing streaming music show/channel on Twitch with live and pre-recorded bands (most of them local to the SF bay area). He's putting a lot of effort into it: professional-level sound engineering and lighting (his day job is a recording engineer/producer and, pre-covid, stage lighting engineer), multiple camera shoots with dollys and booms and an experienced volunteer crew.

He of course is aware of Twitch's trigger-happy approach to DMCA and so one of the requirements is that bands play only original music they own the copyright to.

So far so good, but I fear one day the algorithm is going to have a false positive, or someone busts out a spontaneous Happy Birthday, and then his channel suddenly goes dark, and all that hard work gets tanked.
Because any power would corrupts eventually?
This is driven by overly cautious attorneys. Twitch has obviously been attacked by some rights holders so they over compensate in an effort to protect themselves from future legal challenges.
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In this case with Twitch, the person needing the support is the partnered streamer, who is earning them substantially more than cents.
I'm pretty sure being critical of efforts to censor information is part of the hacker ethos ("information should be free").

I think this is actually why the Twitter approach ("some or all of this tweet is disputed") is a good way to go. You're providing more information—links to people who disagree—rather than hiding information.
Every morning, while my wife is booting from hibernation (Unix aged lass, not so trivial), I automatically make coffee to be able to log onto her and start the day.
It was just a vague threat that MPEG decided to heed, they could have decided to ignore it too.
There doesn't seem to be much remaining restraint against suppression of conservative speech, since so many norms have now been revoked. You don't have to agree with these people to understand the basic formula that if a large enough group feels like they have been disenfranchised and are now being suppressed from talking about it by those in power the result is always the same.

The way out of this was for the winning side to get out ahead of it and do everything in their power to legitimize the election for these people. They didn't have a moral duty to do so, but it was foolish not to, since now by not doing so we've seen a deep, cemented, hatred and distrust of the outcome and the other side that from my vantage point is materially worse than before and could have been avoided to a large degree.

We're in trouble. People on the "winning" side of this dispute seem to be celebrating as the other side's hopes are dashed and their speech is marginalized, but in fact they ought to be terrified, since insofar as the other side isn't persuaded of their error and their beliefs deepen in light of the coercion being used against them being seen as a form of confirmation, things are going to be worse for everyone going into the new year.

A strange irony from this situation that I hadn't realized is that it seems that if one is on the winning side of a dispute its the point of maximal confidence the other side will be coerced into submission that one actually should be the least confident that the dispute is going to be settled, since it means coercion has been accepted as the only possible method to settle it. In fact, its that moment, the one where persuasion is understood to not be viable, which presents the greatest danger.

Our history points to another example of the point of presumed capitulation in fact being the start of anything but, but I won't make the analogy at the risk of it (rightly) being torn apart.
> The most earnest part of Europe is Scandinavia, and not surprisingly this is also the region with the highest number of successful startups per capita.

I find it hard to take sweeping statements like this seriously. What makes Scandinavian countries any more or less earnest than, say, Germany or France? This seems no better than to say, “The French make great lovers,” or “The British are terrible cooks.” Absent any evidence to back them up, many such statements in PG’s essays seem to be an expression of his prejudices. The very least he could do is to provide some criterion the reader can use to test “earnestness” at the population scale.

In this case, I imagine that he started from “Scandinavia is the region with the highest number of startups per capita” and inferred that this must mean that they are more earnest, rather than going the other way around.
> my countrymen are not known for their rational level-headed discourse

How does this help? Also it's not about being tech-savvy or not, yes we're all normal people. It's trying to maintain a level of reason on this forum. I'm genuinely interested in what people think of what Twitter does, but the tone of nearly every reply in the thread is somewhere between mildly polarized and extremist/conspiracy theorist.
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Contrary to the hypocritical ravings of the left, I think election challenges are healthy for democracy. I wish they happened every time. I don't have a lot of trust in them as-is, and whatever the outcome of Trump's challenges, one of them will be that anyone thinking about committing fraud will likely think again after all this.

https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-elect...
Maybe "where its going" is social media hitting a brick wall and killing itself in a petrol-fueled explosion.
> that will bring you and your children joy is in a different level

This oddly assumes in this example that somehow the Airpods Max don't bring a person joy because of the price tag

It's no different comparing cars or any other items. Option A can do what Option B does but is cheaper. People buy B because they want to. Why would this be any different here.

Anyone who doesn't want to spend $550 on headphones don't have to.

> "I will get these $500 headphones instead of the $300 ones that can do the same thing just because I can afford them"

But that isn't entirely true. If you want over ear headphones that support Spatial Audio, these are the only option.

I'm not saying Airpods Max being this expensive makes sense. I'm not saying they are definitively better. But there are differences and regardless, not a good reason to be repulsed about pricing. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Yes. It’s because of who he is. If I wrote this post, it would not have the same meaning as if he wrote it.

I know that sounds counterintuitive, but the reason is that we know that PG has huge experience of and access to startup founders and seen their outcomes and has had a great deal of opportunity to formulate thoughts like like this on the basis of what he has seen.

I have experience of startups too. I could have written something like this, but it genuinely wouldn’t have been as meaningful coming from me, because I don’t have the same perspective as he does.
> Proper nouns don't take articles because usually the question "which John?", for example, isn't a concern.

And they do take articles when the question is a concern, in exactly the same way as other nouns. E.g., (for a highly contrived example) “The John Smith in the story of Pocahontas is not the John Smith found in a contemporary register of tradesmen in London discovered last week”.
Twitter’s follow limit has been driving me mad for months
I use Twitter a lot

I love it, I will keep using Twitter. My problem is that I had had a follow-read-retweet pattern of usage for ~4 years and then 3 mos ago I snapped and started replying to others as well. My interest in the platform went from reddit replacement to a way to try to prove out my own opinions. My reliance on the platform, already high, skyrocketed

About a month later I hit the 5k follow limit. The established method to clear this hurdle is to become “famous” enough for Twitter to lift the cap

Four weeks after hitting the limit, I was frustrated enough to do the scratch maths and found that if I had had a 5k + 100 per month of use where I had sent 100+ retweets I would be fine which seems a simple fix conceptually

I get frustrated because when I have a nice conversation these days I have to go back and find people I had followed ~8 years ago and drop them in favor of someone I just met

I want to understand why this is happening in terms of incentives. I can only assume there aren't a lot of people trying to use the platform this way (unlikely), that Twitter doesn’t staff economists who would know about inflation (unlikely), or that Twitter feels the follow-celebrities concept of their early days is still the best way to sell ads

I know there are tech challenges on the backend and that Twitter is massive, but that seems subordinate to the idea that listening to more people than listen to you is a eu-social behavior

St Francis of Assisi famously prayed “Make me a channel of your peace... O master grant that I may never seek so much to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to understand”

Maybe if Twitter’s excess of revenues over expenses were all swept to the US Treasury less reinvestment rather than used to distribute to shareholders or buy back stock they could focus on promotion of eu-social behavior rather than eyeball/clickthrough optimization?

https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-follow-limit
Nope. AV1 has demand due to the companies behind it. I’m 95% confident it’ll start happening within the next couple of years.

There’s so much engineering knowledge that has to be built up behind how to make these things fast in hardware since the overlap with other mpeg codes is smaller. There’s also a market timing issue. AV1 will be more battery intensive so the consumer demand for AV1 has to make sense (right now the content ecosystem isn’t there). That means Google and Netflix have to transcode their entire libraries. That doesn’t happen often and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some investigation into how to do that more cheaply as the current encoders are unusably slow at the moment (ie they may need to put video encoder hardware in their clouds which I don’t think I’ve heard of these companies ever doing, making the undertaking even more expensive)
I have seen fifteen or so such top- or second-level comments on this and the previous thread. It was about one apologist to every two critics there, and one to four here. It is by no means a rare perception here.
Just so people aren’t misled - ASCAP is a not-for-profit, it isn’t a government agency. I think a more accurate word for it is “cabal” since most people don’t know much about them and that they often work against (IMO) the public interest.
PG seems to have a cynical conception of what "politics" is, since he seems to be saying that practising it is anathema to earnestness.

I understand what he means if by "politics" he means self-interest and hoodwinking voters. And that may be his experience of politicians, but it doesn't define the field any more than Mulligans define golf. Champion golfers don't take Mulligans, don't kick their ball closer to the hole, and don't miscount strokes. They are all far too earnest, and have been since they started in the sport.

Likewise with politics. MLK did what he did because he cared for the rights of people. So did Thomas Jefferson, They're not the only ones, though it is difficult to come up with examples that are universally admired because when it comes to politics, we all have different opinions, because we all have different interests.

But what is politics? When I studied it at university, we learned on the first day that politics is just who gets what, where, when, and how, in a society.

Anyone who fights for the rights of other people in society, whether for left or right, for rich or for poor, may be earnest, and virtuous in the eyes of their peers.
>Twitter users mock Facebook. Redditors mock Twitter users. Hacker News comments are frequently self-congratulatory for “quitting” other social media platforms and so on.

I don't smoke Marlboros like some kind of animal, I smoke Parliaments.

>Some times I suspect that what the social media cynics really want is for us to return to a time when the communicating on the internet was only accessible to the few of us who were willing and able to figure it out.

I think you're close, but I don't think the inaccessibility made that time period so charming. Not every website used to have a cookie policy and push notifications and a recommendation engine showing you the hottest articles you have to read.
looking at the division in society (not just US but all across the West and on the world-stage even), it's absolutely hard to remain neutral. not hard because I'm a "crazy commie" Democrat thinking Trump needs to go, nor because I'm a "dumb" Conservative thinking the election was stolen (not my language but the way these camps view another). This is sadly pretty standard political discourse even in other countries.

The thing that really scares me in all this is how each side is 100% certain about all the bad the other side is and how a single comment can land people as labelled as "the other". I know for myself and in my bubble that Trump and his cohorts are terrible and playing dirty, and responsible for thousands of corona casualties. But I take a look at the other side and see how absolutely hardened they are in their view that they got conned. They are equally convinced as I am about them backing the correct side.

It's no longer only about who got conned but by how discourse in this climate is impossible. It's easy to just hope things are going to settle if only the right kind of leadership steps in. But the amount of work that camp has cut out reuniting this division is almost impossible.

Impossible because the division has been instigated from the top so we automatically trust that it gets mended by the top. But the real work is in bringing those families back together that no longer talk, or those friends people lost due to "politics".

the only reason I still tune into my own biased news bubble is to scour it for signs of rhethoric, or ideas in how to mend this mess. and what scares me is I haven't seen anything yet that addresses some of the root causes here. class divide, racial divide, and the richest of this world (those leaders HN often celebrates, Bezos, Musk etc) having become richer even during the pandemic. Maybe we wouldn't have all this discussion if a human life was valued differently than just in terms of the revenues they generate for society. It also shows me that the place to find peace isn't a "democracy", or certain pocket of society, but within myself.
That type of damages (% of finished product) is not really a thing anymore, fwiw.
That’s a reasonable analysis. It’s very different from Trump’s claims on social media - he says that these facts are evidence of voter fraud, that any honest court would nullify the election, and that he still hopes to find a way to overturn the election result. If the discussion were just about improving the system for future elections I’d be all in favor of allowing it.
The (very short) article clarifies the title is suggesting this could be the longest exposure ever. And just happens to have been taken using a beer can — which is important because the metal can is better at withstanding the elements for such a long time than photographic paper. The title could have maybe used a comma before “using a beer can” to clarify.
It used to. If you look at the recent discussions, they have been very negative responses.
How many is “enough”?
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I agree with you! The way the police acts is often awful and overly broad. I'm all for diminishing their power. But this makes your comment down the thread even more confusing. You said: "He's trying to be clever and say "civil war" without saying "civil war". The LARPers on the right seem to be enjoying this a great deal. I'm sure the FBI will be very interested in their calls for violence."

So, are you against using police force unnecessarily or for it? Because you seem to be saying that people should be visited by the FBI for their comments online, like it happened with this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgqeJi_Z6aM. Or are you only for it if it's against your political opponents?
Do you think there are many people here that would support a breakdown of the democratic process, a coup? I'd hope that those people are in the vast minority. You can be passionate about a topic but that's different than extremist. I'm passionate about privacy but it's not like I think that people using Facebook are retarded and write about it in full caps.
The existence of white supremacy and bogus academia is not mutually exclusive. Of course it depends how you want to define it.
“There are ways to educate people to develop critical reading and identify when they are being lied to on the internet.”

Are there simple ways to learn the above?
Dr. Gelernter and Freedman proposed time as a better metaphor than space almost 25 years ago. It's essentially what every social media app uses now. Although the dissertation proposes better tooling for navigation.

http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/freeman/dissertation/etf.pdf
Challenging elections to ensure they're fair and legal is hardly undermining them. It forces them to be strengthened against fraud.

I don't think Bush/Gore undermined anything.

I don't think Hillary undermined them when she told Biden not to concede under any circumstances. I don't support her or Biden's politics, but I cheered that position.
Given the situation happened, was the fire caused by either the right to repair or the laptop going through a repair? Why did you drag the "repair" and "a bad charger causing a fire" into one category?

What a horrible strawman argument to make.
But if you wrote something today and recorded

I would need a license to print your words.

A license to use your exact song if longer than 7-15 seconds.

A license to perform a cover if it sounds the same.
Social media have tried and failed. They monetize disinformation and hate speech. How long do we wait for alternatives to emerge?
Texan here. Yes and no. The three major Metro areas of Dallas Houston and Austin/San Antonio already are Democratic strongholds. The suburbs and rural areas vote Republican. The big issue here is the demographic growth of Hispanics. Both parties are trying to win their vote.
You're equating fringe groups with a mainstream political movement. Those kinds of caricatures are only possible because half of US voters have been totally deplatformed and are unable to speak for themselves. I am very worried that is a recipe for violence.
> "And theres no practical way to determine whether the customer is “trying it out” or running a key part of their business on any particular resource."

Well there's a very easy way, adding a checkbox and an input:

[ ] I am just trying things out, don't charge me more than [ ] USD
DXF is useful as a minimal exchange format; For developers I would recommend a look at OpenNURBS(.3dm):

https://www.rhino3d.com/opennurbs/

It's a format as well as C++ implementation that's freely licensed and supports many features over DXF such as 5+ sided solid geometries. This is not possible in DXF without proprietary extensions.
You are thinking about it wrong.

This is not just "a good read". And what is my favorite part does not matter.

Because you don't even know how to ask the right questions yet. Think back before you learned anything about coding; back then, how could you have asked anything but naive questions about how you built Hacky? You're in that situation now, with marketing.

Read this book with the intention of letting it rewire your fundamental assumptions about what marketing is and how it works. If you do that, you will finish a very different person than when you started.
But can you sit down and record your own performance of Dragonforce?
What if he tweeted encouraging people to go murder [insert any of the groups he has repeatedly attacked] ? Would the absolutism of allowing that outweigh the obvious problems it would bring on?
But they are not doing it "extremely" well. It's shoddy, spotty, resource-hog. It's (is/was) innovative, but it's no longer an amazing added value over running your own (RocketChet) or picking a cheaper option.
Each of those pairs you present sound equally correct out of context (though in one case one is a familiar quote), but in each pair the examples have different semantics and each would sound better in different specific contexts (and sometimes they would sound equally correct even in context but have slightly different meaning, at least in connotation.)