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The magic of chrome is basically it's javascript engine, which is the first major implementation (from scratch) of a js engine since the advent of ajex/client side heavy web applications.

Your analogy with Apple is fitting I think, Apple's iPhone raised the bar on customer expectations for smart phones, hopefully Google' Chrome will raise the bar on Javascript performance in browsers to move the web forward.

They just need to release a damned linux version!
They seem to hype the whole 64-bit stuff a lot. I've had a full 64-bit Gentoo running for quite year and the difference to 32-bit wasn't even noticeable.
I was expecting this to be a poll.

There has been a lot of commentary on Chrome. I do think it has been too much. I wouldn't say too much hype though. Quite a lot of the commentary has been on the problems with the EULA and questioning the benchmarks.
Make them read code.

Take a chunk of good code, a chunk of bad code (real code, not toy stuff), and ask them to explain it, find any bugs, and recommend improvements.
Couple ways this could go:

1. Ability to easily add the application shortcut to the start menu. Almost like a pseudo installation.

2. Use the bookmarks (or some special form of the bookmarks menu)
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As a mobile developer I feel the same way about Apple - iPhone (with bugs and all) is the dawn of new era, similar to how PC+modem was the dawn of the connected world as we know it today.

These are the most exciting times in recent memory as three new platforms are being born before our eyes: the mobile PC, the cloud and the "web browser 2.0".
my thought exactly
Agreed about people being hype prone, look at the comments system on Digg. It doesn't particularly matter if your comment on any submitted story is as insightful as the rest, just as long as your among the first to comment your almost guaranteed to get boosted high and to reap the associated benefits with it.

It doesn't seem to be limited to any particular "group" of people either.

The same thing happens here on HN aswell to a smaller extent & I fully expect to get modded down to all heck because of this comparison.

To me, wisdom of the crowds is abit of a misnomer, as once there is an original "acceptance" by a small group of people, the web 2.0 echo chamber kicks in.

This kind of effect is not just limited to social news sites either, the exact same thing happens with blogs aswell - eg, a story might appear on Techcrunch, and then 1000 "me too" posts will pop up around the place.
You browse mobile?
how many of you browse HN with mobile? Or any other site? I'm realy tired of 800k+ pages with fancy graphics, want to make mobile browsing bearable. Any takers?
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what's the problem?

at least Google delivered a very nice product
Perhaps the dumbest thing of all is bloggers don't actually read up before posting blogs like this particular one. One of the developers debunked the idea, he listed when the browser communicates with Google ( here: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ ), and he insisted that they hold no rights in a public blog post that can be cited by any two-bit lawyer from the way-back-machine. Scandalous of them, huh?
This is a repost from the same topic as this: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=293947

Perhaps the dumbest thing of all is bloggers don't actually read up before posting blogs like this particular one. One of the developers debunked the idea, he listed when the browser communicates with Google ( here: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-communication/ ), and he insisted that they hold no rights in a public blog post that can be cited by any two-bit lawyer from the way-back-machine. Scandalous of them, huh?
I will be excited when it works in more than just windows.
Their references fail to support all their statements. For example from the introduction, "In addition, "natural history" studies of free fall indicate that failure to take or deploy a parachute does not inevitably result in an adverse outcome." Chasing down the reference for that statement points to the case of Vesna Vulović. According to wikipedia she a) was in a plane at the time of impact which will exhibit significantly different freefall characteristics to the human body and b) she "suffered a broken skull, three broken vertebrae, one crushed completely, and was in a coma for 27 days" which to me would be an adverse outcome.

Further studies are clearly needed. I suggest animal studies in pigs.
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Why is only 1/25 of the United States interested in Y Combinator?
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true, you can also turn it off in the options
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The comic book might be Google Chrome's biggest innovation (a new way to launch products?)
Exactly. I was wondering what the big deal was over the weekend (I didn't get a chance to read anything about it until Tue), but now that I've used it, I think it's going to be amazing. Either a) other browsers will speed up and clean up to match it (unlikely due to backwards compatibility with extensions) or about 6-12 months from now it will be my only browser (it is already my primary browser). Same thing happened with Google search, Google Maps, and Gmail. I'm not an uncritical fanboy but I've been here before.
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Running what?

Unless you're doing CAD, 3D or video editing, 64-bit on the desktop is just for bragging.
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I actually thought he brought up a good point the third paragraph: perhaps it's best to have a representation between Javascript and machine code that other languages can target. The VM should do what V8 does - optimize to machine code - but it might open up the potential for other languages to be embedded in browsers.
This isn't a repost of the EULA article and has nothing to do with who holds the rights to content. It only has a little in common with Matt's post. Matt mentions that Chrome will communicate with the search engine when typing in the location bar, but he does not discuss any of the implications of that.

Perhaps the dumbest thing of all is commenters who don't actually read up before posting comments like this particular one.
I guess it was just to test if anyone cares. I still don't think they will change anything because that's what they are aiming for, information control.
Sad but not surprising. There's a small group of people that wield a lot of influence on Digg, and there's bound to be a subset that wants to profit.
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"They could sing campfire songs in all the classes, as long as admissions still worked the same." (or something to that effect)

I tend to believe that the most important part of a university is neither the learning, nor the signaling, but rather the networking.

The introductions made through university connections tend to prove invaluable over time, and some of the alumns I've spoken with have the same view of YC.
Many people use google's main site as a location bar. I've seen this quite often, even among people working in science and holding a PhD. It's not only my granny.

After writing this comment I saw another comment
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=294070
of a person that says he does this. So it must be quite common.
Cool and interesting but yes... overhyped.
> The rest either raised money, were acquired, made it to profitability without raising more...

Can you give a breakdown of these numbers?
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It's big, highly relevant news until there is other, more interesting news. It'll calm down in another day, until the Mac/Linux versions come out.
I was expecting some sort of mashup using stories from The Onion, but was sorely disappointed.
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My guess would be that this EULA was derived from a boilerplate Google EULA with a search/replace done on it. Apparently, it's very similar to the Google Docs EULA.
Ask YC: Becoming a Merchant Service Provider.
We make a CMS. We're building a shopping cart, and we want to make money. It's my understanding that one of the best ways on this path would be to take a small % and/or per transaction fee.

There are mediaries such as Amazon FPS, but that requires buyers to be sent to an Amazon co-branded page, not ideal.
Authorize.net is the processor that I'm looking at, but they have no way of helping me become an MSP to provide my customers with merchant accounts.

I'm wondering if anybody here has gone through this with their business (pg? Yahoo! stores?). I called Wachovia business development, and they said basically "I don't understand exactly what you want, but I don't think we do it"

Any help or direction would be appreciated
Ok, so it's not THE onion, but it is fun looking. Like Sim City - though I miss Godzilla.

Good start. Google mashup might have been easier, or fire eagle data more compelling.
I'm from MA, seems I fit the mold around here. I'm surprised nothing from at least a state like NY.
If you are typing a url into google.com's search box the expectation already exists that google.com will have this data.

If you are typing a url into your browser's location bar, you aren't going to assume google.com will have it.
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Do you have an iPhone? If so, try out Instapaper if you haven't. It's great; it cuts through all that crap and gives you the content you want to read.
web browser 2.0?

There has easily been more than 2 major revisions in browser technology (I'm not talking just version changes, I'm talking fundamental changes in ideas)

If I had to quickly disassemble it, it would have been something like.

- Pre-mosaic times (the internet was a dark and lonely place) = browser 1.0

- Mosaic, the browser that "popularised" the web = browser 2.0

- The introduction of Netscape and Microsoft IE and the "browser wars" that followed in which microsoft "won" = browser 3.0

- Introduction of a major competitor to IE that championed open source movement (Firefox) would have been 4.0

So if my rough timeline is correct, that would make Chrome browser generation 5.0 and to be honest, while it is a great browser so far - it is just too early to call. Remember Active Desktop for IE4 and how revolutionary that was for it's time? It introduced the idea that the web is more than just your browser, It's not even around anymore that's how revolutionary it is.

One could even argue that Safari for iphone should be 5.0 because it took the true web (not the mobile web, and I dont want to argue about flash) into the palm of your hands.

At the end of the day, the market will decide; so while Google does have a strong brand and lots of successes, it also has it's fair share of "failures". This isn't Google hate, I love their stuff, it's just reality.

(EDIT - put in a few additional things)
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I would look for the ability to think i.e., quickly and logically breaking a problem into its components and get to the essentials. Ask good questions along the way, and come up with a solution to the problem. Do this in an area outside their expertise.

Anyone who passes that test with flying colors and is interested and engaged while doing it has a first-rate mind. The rest is detail -- do they know this language? if not, do they want to learn it? can they work with other people? do other people want to work with them?

Valuing "passion" (in the 20-something hacker crowd) or a university degree (large software companies too numerous to name) over the ability to think clearly in the abstract are both unfortunately too common. It seems to me that either is more a tool for recognizing "people like us" than to actually identify a good programmer.
Well, it's better than American Idol at least.
Nothing for under 35ers?

Looks like I gotta watch out mostly for auto accidents and heart disease (can't say I'm at risk for HIV)

Just bought a safe vehicle to replace my aging SUV, now it's time to look at my diet/exercise.
Some context: This article was a satirical commentary on the situation in evidence-based medicine where the absence of large double-blind placebo-controlled randomized controlled trials was equated with an absence of efficacy, for example it would be completely unethical to do a placebo controlled trial of penicillin as a treatment for infection as patients would have to die to prove that it worked.
There is a lot of discussion for two reasons: (1) the browser is really really good, and as some others have pointed out, it has the potential to really bring in a new era of computing. (2) anything to do with Google / Apple / Facebook is a HUGE link bait, and so news sites / bloggers want to milk it to the maximum.

Edit: also, the iPhone is right to be hyped despite all its flaws. Apple has shown us another way of creating an extremely elegant (albeit sometimes less than usable) user interface with little screen space. In the next few years, you will see everybody copying it and taking it to the next level. The iPhone is good not because what it is right now, but because of all the future potential it has unleashed. Also, a jailbroken iPhone is a hacker's dream despite the closedness of the platform.
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Google own all my google docs?
meh. I suppose if this level of hyper-privacy is required by the user, you shouldn't be using any google product, or MS product, or Apple product.

Me, I couldn't care less if google knows that I visited awsomenekkidpics.com or whatever.
Maybe. We're talking about a brand new product in a domain that has, what, four other major players (at least on Windows). That's a big deal, especially given it's coming from Google.
It would be great if YC started posting stats about applications. Good for startups seeking co-founders, at least...
naked kid pics huh? i hope for your sake they don't know about that one :P
hehe... good one.

Memories of www.molestationnursery.com and www.therapistfinder.com...
Maybe why needs an 8gb hack:

"Currently, Mac OS X Leopard hosts both 32-bit and 64-bit apps on top of a 32-bit kernel (below). Using PAE, the 32-bit kernel can address 32GB of RAM in the Mac Pro and Xserve; Apple's consumer machines only support 4GB RAM, but unlike 32-bit operating systems they can use the entire 4GB (with appropriate hardware support). Leopard's 32-bit kernel enabled Apple to ship 64-bit development tools to give coders the ability to build applications that can work with huge data sets in a 64-bit virtual memory space (and port over existing 64-bit code), without also requiring an immediate upgrade to all of Mac OS X's drivers and other kernel-level extensions. That transition will happen with Snow Leopard."
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/26/road_to_mac_os...

I don't know if this is right, but it caught my attention when I read it.
YC is less like a university (where they teach building blocks) and more like a highly selective vocational school (where your skills are directly applied)
By compressing the dull but necessary task of making a living into the smallest possible time, you show respect for life, and there is something grand about that. - last line of http://www.paulgraham.com/startuplessons.html

PG's article is about working very hard and then it's over, through some kind of exit (acquisition or IPO). This is what "built to flip" means to me. If founders "kept growing the company", they would just have more of the same very hard work and stress (by my interpretation of the article).

(To me), the alternative to a built-to-flip company is one Warren Buffet would like. It has an economic moat (durable competitive advantage), putting it in such a strong position that you don't need to work so desperately hard. You can continue to deepen the moat, it's no longer life-and-death stress.

I think I'm missing something - maybe PG's [8] footnote, that a startup is choice (a): you don't love building the company. It's just a means to an end, of financial independence.

I 'd like to do work I love, within my own economic moat.
Settle down. It appears they just used the default EULA that comes with all their "Services". They have since realized that they need a different EULA. You'll probably see a new (retroactive) Chrome EULA come out shortly.
perhaps it's best to have a representation between Javascript and machine code that other languages can target

And the payoff for that extra complexity and a probable loss of performance is... what, exactly?

Particularly when you consider that even if Chrome did have a VM that could run compiled Flash, Python, Ruby, and Lisp... very few programmers would ever use those languages, because the resulting code wouldn't work in any other browser?

Unless you require a plugin, Javascript is the greatest common factor in modern browsers. That's not going to change in the foreseeable future, both because it's a very tedious long-term project to establish and promote a cross-browser alternative, and because the payoff is probably not big enough to justify that effort: As guys like Yegge and Crockford have pointed out, Javascript is a pretty good language to have gotten stuck with, once you learn to steer around the kludged bits.
well he said gentoo, so i guess that means running gcc.
Exactly.

Maybe you are contemptuous of them, but you have a business plan that involves having them work back-breaking hours for some founder's equity you will dilute down to the strength of Budweiser beer.

That sounds like sarcasm, but consider the case of salespeople. Many people have trouble liking salespeople, and many people do not admire them. But many businesses would close without good salespeople. So you try to find and hire the best salespeople you can find.

Wanting to put someone to work in a manner advantageous to your business is entirely orthogonal to putting them on a pedestal.
Great Idea, but it really needs some serious polishing. I see it being very useful for tourists, and/or if you are looking to moving to a new place.

I like the "Big Mac" index. In the US, I use the "Starbucks Late" index, when compare costs between cities. They seem to reflect the local cost of living pretty well.
It's not only blogs. The traditional media suffers from it as well. If there is significant hype with traction, everyone wants to hitch their wagon to it.

I saw a documentary about Charlie Chaplin. This was happening to him back in his day. This has probably been going on since we've had culture.
Of course active desktop is still around.

It lives on in mac widgets, the vista sidebar, and so on.
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Google should spend ts considerable resources coming up with a "compiler" for legal docs. You just type in s few one line sentences describing the rights you'd like to have and the compiler checks for consistency errors and then generates a legal document (probably 100 pages long) filled with all of the right "magic words".
I thought I mentioned the payoff, as did the author: using an arbitrary language in the browser.

I don't think this is necessarily the way to go, but I think it's an interesting idea. I pointed it out because this blog post is the first place I've seen it.
These are the universal terms of service that apply to all Google products: http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS. It's entirely reasonable given that it limits what they can use and it protects them against, say, Pepsi uploading a document on Google Docs then suing Google for hosting that document.
Here's a quote from their legal team...

"In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same set of legal terms (our Universal Terms of Service) for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome, this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don't apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome."

Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome
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Read before you freak.

Other than the limited license set forth in Section 11, Google acknowledges and agrees that it obtains no right, title or interest from you (or your licensors) under these Terms in or to any Content that you submit, post, transmit or display on, or through, the Services, including any intellectual property rights which subsist in that Content (whether those rights happen to be registered or not, and wherever in the world those rights may exist). Unless you have agreed otherwise in writing with Google, you agree that you are responsible for protecting and enforcing those rights and that Google has no obligation to do so on your behalf.

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
Browser 1.0 = designed to render web pages

Browser 2.0 = designed to run web applications
Link?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031703-56.html
Unless I'm mistaken I don't believe that Comcast even offers a way to track your usage. How are you supposed to know when you get close to their cap?
At the very top of the download EULA...

"These Terms of Service apply to the executable code version of Google Chrome. Source code for Google Chrome is available free of charge under open source software license agreements at http://code.google.com/chromium/terms.html."

Makes sense to me.
Google is changing this game.
Mozilla still has it as an about:config use-at-your-own-risk feature in an unreleased version of FF

This is because Firefox is expected to work, while Google Chrome is just an exciting toy (nobody will get upset if their favorite page stops working).
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It's an unfair zinger from what I've read. TraceMonkey may have been in development at Mozilla for 2 months, but significant portions of it came from Adobe and their Tamarin Tracing team. You can't dismiss the development time of the nanojit contribution just for hyperbole's sake. When I saw John Resig, who I very much respect for his work on javascript, make that statement, I realized there's a PR war going on here.

This was a cool article on TraceMonkey development:
http://andreasgal.com/2008/08/22/tracing-the-web/
I'd hate to end up in the placebo group...
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