skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The problem is that it's not an if-else scenario with Apple and Android. Right now Apple is booting developers out with their restrictions, and in this case, the developer is making the same app as Apple has for free (iBooks). And if there's not sufficient Android users to make developing this app for the Android worth doing, then the developer isn't going to swap platforms, they'll just pack up and go home.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see more Android developers. I just don't think it's very likely until and unless Android picks up more steam...and that probably won't happen until the Android App store is as saturated in iOS's.
Guess I'll have to drive down to the US to get one. Canada is somehow always excluded from new google projects. I'd like them to tell us which laws or limitation cause this. Crappy ISPs and Mobile networks?
Chromium 13 Gets "Restrict Instant To Search" And Better Multi-Profile UI
The "scheming and FUD" were used to get the company to make a rational decision. Their motivation wasn't to fuck anyone over, it was to get the deciders to make the right decision. There's nothing wrong with hacking deciders to get them to make good decisions; the alternative seems to be letting them make bad ones.

What techniques, specifically, should they have used to get their point across?
New Stealth Start-Up: Udentity
Vaadin is not a client-side framework; it's a server-side Java framework that takes care of client-side code as well. It's similar to Nitrogen for Erlang.
Yes, I immediately saw I needed to put some context into that statement :)

Also - this announcement I think is great, see my comment here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2535230 which I made last night.

The thing is that we will see a fundamental shift in how people compute in the next 18 months.

The questions are going to be very interesting relating to data security and privacy, though.

We just saw that the NSA captures the equivalent of a Library of Congress in data every 6 hours.

The amount that google will potentially capture through the chromebook system will be amazing.

They are planning other services as well that will enable these books in the long term.

The question about who will be a more valuable / viable company between facebook and google are now clearly ridiculous. Facebook will have a tough time coming anywhere near as influential as google from an infrastructure perspective alone.

Facebook will be a valuable service portal for a long time - but it will have to fundamentally shift in a big way to become a global computing infrastructure provider -- and it simply is not in its DNA -- Zuck < Page/Brin.

I think the next revolution for the chromebook will be the web-app market that will be put on top of it. It will be interesting to see (and participate) in the building of the various lenses that you can view the web through on these things:

Education Lens: Like Khan Academy on Steroids

Business Lens: Business Productivity Suite

Healthcare Lens: All the EHR/PHR point of care service apps

Good times ahead.
linux and MAC

Is that a subtle joke...?
work at home dad here. I get most of my work done at home when kid is at school, I'm pretty laid back and don't even need an office, just sprawl out on a couch with laptop & I'm good. I mix it up and go to a coffee shop if wife is home, or send the kid outside to play if I need to focus.

its a really great situation for me. I love picking up my son from school, helping him with homework as I wrap up.

you'll need some kind of child care for an 18mo though. at least something part-time like 'mother's day out' programs. on those days when school is out and my wife has to work, it can be a strain on both of us.

I love it, and don't miss the stressful commute or the office at all. its amazing how relaxed i am, and mentally 'here' for my family now. being able to work from home is probably the biggest reason I'm sticking with my bigco employer until they get tired of me :) if/when they do, I'll move if I can't get another remote gig.
It's a purely personal point of view, but I sincerely think that the CR-48 looked much better than both of those.
If Crunchgear is right and those laptops hit the market at 350+ & 425+, I'll regret not having an address in the States back then, when Google was distributing CR-48s !
On a more serious note, I think a worldwide 3G plan would make those laptops very interesting for me.
Google Chrome Notebooks Available June 2015
Can make you phone calls with GVoice on this thing? There might be a lot of value right there.
Angry Birds on Chrome
It took me a long time of exploring to realize they were talking about a laptop. I was like "Chromebook?" Is it a kindle? Is it an online scrapbook? Is it online literature?

edit: why am i being downvoted? because i don't read tech blogs 24/7? because nowhere on the website does it actually say what a chromebook is?
I think this needs to be looked at a bit differently- instead of focusing on the ticket buyers (travelers), focus on the airlines. Help them fill those last minute seats, the ones that are still not sold 24 hours (or even less?) before a flight. I'm sure they'd want an easy way to put butts in those empty seats- an app that 1. notifies them when a seat is unsold 24 hours before a flight and 2. allows them to easily put it on sale to the last minute consumer. You may even be able to charge the airline for this service, instead of making money off a commission.
The data service (http://www.google.com/chromebook/#features-connectivity) looks nice for people who don't do a ton of streaming. In fact, if chromeos has ssh, it would probably do for my work laptop at something better than a netbook + verizon dongle, and a whole lot cheaper. (well, I think right now it's $60/5gb, and I rarely hit that).
One could use animation software like TVPaint (http://www.tvpaint.com/v2/content/article/home/), or any number of other high-end packages.

Then there's the legendary, zephr-like LivingCels, a revolutionary vector animation package that was briefly available as a free beta download - then Microsoft bought the company (Creature House) and it vanished forever...
Thanks! I was looking in a wikipedia article comparing frameworks that didn't cover every one.

Backbone looks really lightweight. SproutCore looks interesting, I misunderstood it at first. It looks like Cappuccino is trying to be like Cocoa, a little to heavy and specific for my needs.
How would you gamify SETI?
Actually, it would still be possible to do that, if we instituted some sort of a HN-wide policy that the person who wants to gauge interest should make that to-be-upvoted comment -- that's because comment authors do see the pints of their own comments.
Google one-ups Apple with 5 percent payment fee
British teenagers have lower IQs than their counterparts did 30 years ago
I'm pretty thrilled that chromebooks will be available in some european countries from launch on.
I have ton's of respect for Andrew as well and that's why I had to comment about how your tool made me feel when I went to watch the video. I don't think it's a bad idea but I don't like how in your face it is and now we are talking about your tool instead of his interview and I'm not sure I would call that a win for Andrew or even for your tool.
At Google's scale I would have guessed that they would have had no difficulty in matching and even beating Amazon's pricing. This is surprising. Why so?
You're right, so I updated my comment. :p
Where am I missing the references to price on that page?
I was hoping they'd also announce some ARM based notebooks, maybe with the quad core Tegra 3.Performance should at least be similar to the current notebooks, but they would be cheaper and battery would last even more.
Good to hear! ;-)
Show HN: My side project - PhoneTap (call recording app)
I disagree, actually; it would be simple for a half-solution. A "party mode" for tablets is really really important. I love handing my Xoom around a room full of people for photos but hate that they can see my email widget on my home screen.

You don't need to immediately download another users apps. You just need to be able to quickly hide your private info.

It would be a mistake for the iPad (or Android tablets) to never get this feature.

Edit: In case it's not clear, anyone who looks at my Xoom - without even touching it - can immediately read my first three or four emails. Wonderfully convenient for personal use, terrible for privacy worries.
Why are there no famous physicians?
Off topic, but reminded me of a great joke from Judge Kozinski in the Roomates.com case, viz.:

". . . Some subscribers are just looking for someone who will get along with their significant other[34] or with their most significant Other.[35]"

[34] "The female we are looking for hopefully wont [sic] mind having a little sexual incounter [sic] with my boyfriend and I [very sic]."

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?q=521+F.3d+1157&h...
I think those rates only apply to the CR-48, not to the new devices announced today, because the new ones are also going to Europe, where CDMA is pretty much non-existent.
Wow, thanks for that link.

If anyone ever wants to know why I don't work at Google any more and why I would decline their offer if they asked me to come back, I would point to this example.

If you thrive in that kind of environment where you "plant hand grenades so you can de-rail the deal" by all means go there. I don't. Every place in Google I looked at had this sort of culture.
You use escaping of course:

...suppose I write a letter from me \[sic\] [sic] to you.
SQL, NoSQL and BigData
I am a little confused about Google Storage Manager. Is this supposed to be a consumer facing product? AKA dropbox killer?
I can't see the laptop itself not costing anything. The per month is on top of the laptop cost I take it?
Your email bounced for me. Try my username at gmail.
Thats one of my biggest gripes, there is not Google Talk voice on the phone. I don't think Carriers would like it very much if Google had a free voice platform.
I don't think anyone is (yet) asking Apple to support any Mobile Me user to log into any iPad and see all their stuff. Just a way for multiple people to use one. Or for me to be able and make my iPad available to someone without also giving them access to all my email and Dropbox contents. Sort of like OS X...
$28/user/month, software + hardware (updates for both) is a good deal.
It's not going to work for my kids till I can put some filtering on the web browser. They really don't need to be clicking on ads and whatnot yet.
Sorry to ask but what is it and what does it do? A small paragraph of what Udentity is would be great !! I understand that this is a stealth startup but a screen with two textboxes is too 'cryptic' :)
I can't imagine anyone buying this and being happy unless they are already intimately familiar with the device ahead of time. Too many limitations, with virtually no big upside functionality or user experience (unlike the iPad that makes up for limitations with some huge upside).

As I'd mentioned before I can buy an ASUS Eee PC with an AMD C30 processor for $289 and be able to use the browser of my choice, sync my iPod/iPad/iPhone, play WoW, use Skype, hook it up to my TV in the dorm, use MS Office, Visual Studio, emacs, vim, etc...

It just feels like a half-baked implementation. The price point on this needs to be a LOT cheaper. Like $100 or free for a netbook, and make the money up with targeted advertising based on them being locked into Chrome. Otherwise this doesn't seem recommendable.
ChromeOS has SSH built in without having to flip the developer switch. (Ctrl-alt-T to get a 'terminal' then 'ssh user@host')
I see no comments on a relatively popular video:
http://tvdinnr.com/#/v/xlOIy6QEbes
(and yes, I'm trying it on a browser without facebook-blocker)
A couple years ago the Google Summer of Code had a restriction on citizens from Iran, Iraq, North Korea, Sudan and Quebec.

Language laws, I think, were the culprit in that case. Not sure about this one though.
Half-way through SAP's transition of 14,000 devs to Agile
Do Jerks Do Better in Silicon Valley?
I am surprised that Google does not publish a version of the OS which runs on VirtualBox/whatever with special hardware (not even sure what it would be) emulated. Imagine how many software folks would show off the OS running a company's internal apps. Making it easy for potential customers to sell something internally is a cheap and effective sales strategy.
hah - and thats gonna be the next BIG thing! Was just too much work for the first release :)
IFlow Reader: "We Put Our Faith In Apple And They Screwed Us"
Would Louis Pasteur or Jonas Salk not count?
You can on the CR-48.
Same price as a windows laptop but much cheaper to support.

For anyone who's the the family tech support guy, it's almost worth buying these for your relatives just so you don't have to deal with cleaning up their malware infected, bloated PCs every 6 months.
That's not what the site seems to say:

Chromebook that have built-in 3G include up to 100MB per month
of Mobile Broadband service for 2 years, provided by Verizon Wireless.
Your picture of mathematics is quite a bit more robust, so I won't deny that what you wrote here is more accurate than my "Gödel say it won't work, woe is our field!" brimstone version. So I'll explain my reasoning for invoking Gödel.

I mostly wanted to walk around the historical event I mentioned, the breaking of the Hilbert Program. At the time, it seemed that formal specification of math would provide a complete picture of what math was! Once the Program was finished then the job of mathematician would eke out into "computer" (of the abacus sort) or into other fields which interpreted the canon.

I'm not sure which death stroke was stronger, the incredible opaqueness and complexity of proof systems like ZFC or Gödel just saying what he was trying was outright impossible, but Hilbert's Program was killed before it even seriously took off, leaving the study of mathematics and the practical formalisms we use to study it pretty ad-hoc instead of grand and unified.

I'm unifying that with the fact that the way math seems to be practiced never comes from the formal language but instead first comes from imagining some kind of "mathematical object" and then taming its behavior with formalisms. You could consider them to be one and the same and argue that the difference is highly philosophical, and then this is where I'd invoke Gödel and inform you that there definitely exist things we could benefit from reasoning about that your formal language would fail to describe. This existence proof separates the classes of true things and provable things and makes their distinction more than philosophical.

Now, talking about what a "mathematical object" is gets you to the bleeding heart of the philosophy of science and epistemology. It's a tough question!

---

As a final note, ZFC is ZF + Axiom of Choice... which, yes, most practicing mathematicians just accept AoC so that they can integrate or whatever. The formal world without AoC is very sparse, but nobody has any sort of idea what the arbitrary decision means. I know that there has been some significant study of ZF-C, though it's been "impractical", I don't know if anyone is willing or capable of stating that ZF-C is in any way worse than ZFC. Impractical is a Mathematicians favorite adjective, so they're just two extant formal systems which disagree quite a lot on important things but we mostly pay attention to ZFC.
That departure one is excellent.
My little girl is not big on socialising with other kids she doesn't know - and even after nearly 6 months at nursery she's still struggling to fit in.

If she's having difficulty developing those social skills surely this makes it more important to throw her into social situations rather than protecting her from them?
Headline wrong -- June 15, not June 2015
There's more - Uki.js, Sammy.js, Knockout...

None of which offers good UI/theme, in my opinion. I like jQuery Mobile's theme, even on desktop. That's what I'm using for my latest project (also using Backbone.js for MVC).
"* Obviously, you're going to need a wireless network, be willing to use it subject to the provider's terms and conditions, and be ready to put up with its real life limitations including, for example, its speed and availability. When you do not have network access, functionality that depends on it will not be available."

http://www.google.com/chromebook/#features

That's some very important information to put in a footnote at the bottom of the webpage. I'll have to check network availability in my most common locations before deciding whether or not this is useful for me or one of my children.
Symantec says change your Facebook password now
It is very slow though! WebGL has a long ways to go..

(Macbook Pro with VGA and 8gb RAM)
I apologize - working late on drop-dead client deliverable until wee hours, messed the title
Oh it gets much worse if you assume that you replace your hard drives every 3 years (their warranty period) which would add a $1.94/month depreciation cost.

You could add into the cost / GB of bandwidth to access the files, not as easy to factor into a TCO model in the personal use case.
I found it on the Google Blog announcement:

http://chrome.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-kind-of-computer-chro...

"Monthly subscriptions will start at $28/user for businesses and $20/user for schools."
It's quite obviously not targeted at you. There are people who use computers who don't even know what Emacs or Visual Studio are. They're also the ones who have major troubles keeping their computers working. Google's working on abstracting away the IT guy. I hope it works.
harvests your email presumably?
Skull and Crossbones as Branding Tool
I don't get the claim that dynamic typing requires more unit tests. Sure if you pass a string to a Python function that expects an int it will blow up at runtime, but is there any value in testing for that?
It's a little snarky sounding for corporate speak; kinda like someone at Google rolling their eyes at you.
No it's not. The web is a whole bunch of appstores/download stores. The web as a whole is not curated. The appstores/download stores are.
That was the footnote for the "Always connected" header...
Works really nicely in Firefox 6 nightlies: http://chrome.angrybirds.com/
PHP Mail Bomber v1.0
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Their [sic] will look like yours, though. And since it's stipulated that the quotee used [sic] incorrectly, you (the quoter) will look as if you are using it incorrectly.
From a security perspective I think it's a big game changer. I'm looking forward to hearing about how secure it is in practice.
record labels ... backed by licensing deals ... the better product

Wow. Who'da thought?
It's a web browser - how did you expect to use it?
indeed, but who are the famous ones of these days? who are the lady gagas of medicine?
Hence, like the death star. It would have rocked the empire (market) if the rebels hadn't stolen the plans.
Can't you filter at a higher leve (ie, the router or gateway?). A simple method would be to get the wifi version, NAT it through your desktop acting as gateway and put the filtering software there.

Of course, that's a kludge and easily worked around. Compared to an iPad, currently the Chromebook is harder to filter.
Canada lags because:

1) Small market compared to US, Germany, UK, etc., so not a priority.

2) Service needs to be bilingual.
Original source: http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/facebook-applications-...
Thanks for the great feedback. You make some good points. We have some tricks up our sleeves to deal with some of what you bring up. Current version is what we consider a minimum viable product. Thanks for the response. We are listening carefully.
Maybe you're being downvoted because of the large photos of laptops when you hit the heading "Chromebooks"?

http://www.google.com/chromebook/#chromebooks
Infinity clock (as seen on HN) app for inPulse smartwatch
Pretty awesome on my desktop but a little slow. It doesn't work at all on my CR48, just a black screen.
Though this is true in general, sometimes the particular circumstances command that you break the rule, i. e. do wrong. I recently mentioned Kant's analysis of the problem :
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2529104
Can anyone find the original article? The Telegraph doesn't even tell you which journal it's in, let alone give you a reference.

I'm curious as to whether they attempted the potentially-career-ending analysis of seeing what happens when the data is broken down by race.
This is true. Why I recommended my sister get a Macbook. If this were out I'd recommend either. Something simple that just works.
I'll add for Chinese that tonality in pronunciation is rather mind-opening in practice. It doesn't have an obvious symbolic attachment, but it does lead to moments of awe as you realize you're tracking and paying attention to someone's word-by-word tonality in other languages.

I'll also add Chinese's rather powerful "de" statement. It can be possessively and descriptively, but you'll often see whole sentences jammed up before a "de" in order to describe a single noun (or wildly recursive uses of "de"). About half the time I'm at a loss to translate sometime I find that I'm just not using "de" enough.
Why is it not a game changer? It sounds like a "user proof" laptop. That's huge.
Thanks.

Yea, it's a drop-in temporary logo and the orange box is the AddThis failing for some reason.

I'm not a designer. I changed #content to auto. The search youtube button overflows when text gets too big (looks normal for me), but I want it to right-align with the video, and maximize search box length. How would I best do that?

No keypresses are captured. It registers hashchanges. The Cmd+Left is probably because it goes back to root tvdinnr.com but doesn't redirect again. I fixed that. Thank you.

The most discussed issue is probably just the youtube request failing. I should create error handlers for that.
And those people don't know what Google Docs are either. And when they get an Excel document where charts don't render correctly, or comments are screwed up, or pivot tables don't work against their datasource, they'll be POed.

Or when all their friends are playing WoW and they realize that this device doesn't play it.

Or when they want to Skype with their grandkids they realize, they can't do that.

Or when they take the photo editing class and realize that the laptop doesn't run the software so they trot halfway across campus to use the lab that has the software installed.

Or when they go to get all their stuff on iTunes and sync their iPhone with it and realize that they still need their old laptop.

Or, or, or...

You can't drop this computer on any average Joe. The subset of people I could recommend this to is crazy small -- maybe zero given the price point.

Make it $0-$100 and I think we have a really interesting device. But at $300 or $20/month, that's a non-starter.

And I should note that I used to be the IT guy for my family and friends. I still am, technically. But it's basically a non-issue nowadays. The only question I've gotten in the past couple of months is someone forgot how to download pictures from her camera. Speaking of which, how well does that work with Chrome (seriously asking)?
Your correct, but I think a LOT of users would be surprised they can't plug their iPhone/iPod in, or maybe use Spotify
Doesn't that depend on how often you plan to otherwise replace the device? I'm on a three year cycle, consequently $28/month don't seem like a good deal.