skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think both you and the author have entirely valid perspectives. Yes, you can hear from and read comments by all kinds of wildly successful people here, and that can be really cool. You can also hear from people who think $3.7M (I assume this relates to the Basemetrics post) isn't a lot of money even though, for most people and - let's be honest - for most of us, it's a huge and utterly life-changing sum that we'd be happy to walk away with for 7 years work.

From my own perspective, my side-project makes just about enough money that it looks like from August/September most months I can now expect a payment from Google Adsense. Net hosting expenses I'm still not making any money (at all!)[0] but it feels pretty good that the project substantially pays for itself: hosting is getting close to covered, CDN and domain expenses not yet.

I also don't have any time to work on it at the moment because I'm working on my house, but I do have plenty of ideas about how I can grow that revenue into something that perhaps ends up being more substantial. Not mega money, but maybe enough to cover the mortgage after hosting expenses and taxes. That's nice because it will make me a bit less dependent on earning a regular paycheck every month.

[0] I don't really want to get into this but, to pre-empt possible questions about why this is so expensive (greater than the £60/mo threshold for an Adsense payout), I host it on a physical machine that's way more powerful than strictly necessary at the moment. This is primarily because I want to also use that machine for other things, but also because even a few months ago the site was getting hit infrequently enough that on (e.g.) Azure there'd be this horrible startup delay for most users if I went ultra-cheap, and I didn't want that. I went dedicated with Azure a couple of years or so back, which worked out more expensive than the machine I rent from OVH, so I switched to a much beefier physical box. I also use Cloudflare because I serve up a reasonable number of media assets, and using a CDN really reduces the bandwidth hit on my own box. Yes, I could do this more cheaply, but I don't want to because it would yield a worse experience for a non-trivial proportion of my userbase.
Which is real weird considering the Intel 13” (which is still on sale) has a 32GB BTO option.
Did his 10 team members get zero? Is he proud of that?
Yes:

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-13/specs/

“Memory 8GB unified memory Configurable to: 16GB”
That's it for the M1 crop of machines, higher-powered ones will go higher...
No, it is not. And 16GB is $200 more.
OMG, their docs for certificates and profiles doesn’t match error messages or xcode or their dev site where you manage them.

:/
> but if it is, I think ARM will take over a large amount of server/cloud market.

Seeing as how Apple has zero presence in the server/cloud market, how do you figure? Are you hoping they bring back xserve?

Otherwise I don't see how Apple having a custom power-efficient chip in a laptop is going to do anything at all in the server/cloud market?
i'm not complaining about it, i was just answering the grandparent's comment about why some people might want pico-8 to be open other than "entitlement". there's no moral element to it either.
And it's unified memory too, shared with the graphics.
Both have a 16 GB limitation.
I can always tell when I'm using a Qt app on my mac, because my keyboard navigation shortcuts don't work
They returned to the design elements introduced for the iPhone 4 in the iPhone 12. That general form would be pretty interesting for an ultra portable laptop.
More like, among all things industrial engineers feel, and among all things Anakin Skywalker feels, not liking sand is in common
Agree for the current Macs. The new Air seems to have the same specs as the new 13" Pro though or is there a difference?
There's a 64GB version.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/16-inch-space...
My concern here isn't around integrity of the vote but secrecy of the vote for a given person in this event. It might just be that this is so different from what I've seen in other systems that it stood out.
Is there even a JVM available for darwin-armv8 ?
Well, not everyone who is qualified to write good documentation wants to work on the code, nor would they necessarily be as good at writing code as they are at writing documentation. If you're writing API documentation, you need to be enough of a coder to understand what the engineers are talking about -- and what they aren't talking about but really should be! -- but that doesn't mean you need to be coding at a level where you could have a career writing apps built on that API, let alone coding at a level where you could have a career implementing the API itself.

It's the "culture that rewards and values the work" that's really the issue, I suspect. Apple certainly used to have a culture of good documentation, and I know they've hired good writers, technical and otherwise, over the years. It's actually kind of difficult to explain why their docs are the way they are, other than just not putting any real priority on the necessary work.
I backed a game a while ago on Kickstarter with native support for Windows, MacOS and Linux. Several weeks ago they sent us a message saying they were ditching the MacOS version due the architecture change.

I wonder how it'll affect the whole ecosystem. I think it'll end being like an iOS on steroids.
Intel's MacBook Pro 13" is still available for purchase with 32GB upgrade. The M1 is capped at 16GB.

edit: spelling
I was eager to buy this one too (my primary device is Windows), and this is what stops me from buying it this year too.
mmmmm yeah, I will let you all be the guinea pigs here and check back next month.

I am very curious about the performance.

If the macbook air is editing 6k videos and scrubbing smoothly, I am optimistic.
Intel MacBook Pro gets 4 ports, this only has two which is odd and annoying.
> In part because executives, marketers and salespeople don't know what it means. And in part because when explained what it means they will insist on their own definition/interpretation and demand the product is marketed as E2E.

This sounds like precisely how Grammarly claim they're not a keylogger by trying to change the very definition of what a keylogger is.
Discrete GPU
> And still conceivable it could flip on recount if its close.

No, no it will not. Here is the REPUBLICAN former governor of Wisconsin explaining why a recount won't change anything. The last two recounts changed the margin by 300 and 131 votes respectively. Nowhere close to the 20k required.

https://twitter.com/ScottWalker/status/1324002777597677569
[1] they = strawman
I got the virus too and I agree with you 100%. My symptoms were just fever in the first day then I lost all my sense of smell (which is still recovering), but what scared me the most was the psychological effects I had to deal with.

I tried to get myself busy, did my workouts everyday, worked from home, that helped a lot. But was mostly at night when I was doing nothing that bad thoughts would try to take control. Some days I would think that I was having difficult to breath, start to get dizzy, but it was all in my mind. I then would calm down, take some deep breaths and watch all the "symptoms" disappear.

I blame that on the apocalyptic coverage the media gave to this disease, every day on every channel, if you tuned in, all you would see were patients in respirators, people dying and mass graves.

Now what I try to do is be very optimistic when talking to people about the disease. I say to them that although it can be a dangerous disease, the majority of those infected will recover without trouble and that I was one of them, so they can have a good case to remember against all the bad news they already have heard. It may help them when they had to deal with it too, as sadly I think everyone will have at some point.
iPhone has typically had lower specs while outperforming its competitors in benchmarks. I think the integration goes a long way toward efficiency.
Only the Intel Pro, not the M1 Pro.
if you hear "3x times faster" would you like to know the baseline or just blindly trust that the metric is correct? if you don't care, they would never show the "3x times faster" metric at all, but they do for a reason
Universal apps run on both Apple Silicon (ARM) processors and Intel processor-based Macs.
> The truth is that players recognize players. The lawyers here can normally spot the other lawyers, and they can always spot the law students. I think it safe to assume the doctors, physicists and soldiers have similar abilities.

This reminds me of the bar scene in Goodwill Hunting (sans the power/class dynamics):

> CLARK: There's no problem. I was just hoping you could give me some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the southern colonies. My contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War, the economic modalities—especially in the southern colonies—could most aptly be characterized as agrarian pre-capital—

> WILL: [interrupting] Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished reading some Marxian historian, Pete Garrison probably, you’re gonna be convinced of that until next month when you get to James Lemon, then you’re gonna be talking about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year, you’re gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin’ about, you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

> CLARK: [taken aback] Well as a matter of fact I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of —

> WILL: "Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth..." You got that from Vickers, Work in Essex County, Page 98, right?

etc.
Is the "Pro" still appropriate?
fwiw, you can configure a 13" Macbook Pro with an Intel chip up to 32GB. But I agree, I wish they launched the new M1 based 13" Pros with up to 32GB RAM
This. I just want 32GB and a 13" screen!
Are you saying that .NET API isn't stable? I have code that works from .NET 1.1 back in 2004.

I wouldn't use any of their flavor of the month tech they release from the conferences. But the .NET framework has been pretty stable over the last 15 years.
Sure, but it's kind of a cheap limitation. 6/6 CPU/GPU would make more sense in terms of positioning the different models.

Up to .14x faster graphics performance for $250
But that's for macOS binaries. Not for VMs.
16 inch? I believe the 13” Intel is limited to 32gb max.
That's an Intel not an M1 powered version.
Using Vue as a Node.js Static Site Generator
You can actually just use `.Wait` or `.Result()` most of the time if you just want to make it synchronous if it's just scrappy code.

Though you'll probably hit the `async void return` runtime bug at some point where you accidentally return void from a method you tried to make async but then got bored of rewriting everything, so just whack in a .Wait or .Result() but haven't returned Task and the damn thing fails at runtime with a mysterious error making you curse async even more.
Agreed, development is a team sports. There are a very developers who have built anything with impact by themselves.
Someone will probably Geekbench it by next week.
Eehm. What is the actual difference between the MBA M1 and the MBP 13 M1? (except the latter is thicker?) Checked the compareison and didn‘t find anything substantial...
Thread at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25049079
Same CPU line, but doesn't mean they will have the same specs. Pro will definitely have its cores run faster/hotter.
Completely unconfirmed speculation incoming:

There's a solid chance that the logic board is exactly the same on all of the Macs announced today and the only difference is the cooling solution. If you play around with the Apple Store configurator, the specs are all suspiciously similar between every new Mac.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-mini
Yeah I would imagine it's intended for similar use-cases as they use for iOS - for instance image/voice/video processing using ML models, and maybe for playing around with training, but it's not going to compete with a discreet GPU for heavy-duty training tasks
This vague arbitrariness is another problem. "We just dropped a hammer on you, bye."

This drives people to paranoia.
Especially head scratching when you consider that a lot of folks still have 2012 Mac minis with 16GB of RAM.

I think 16GB is the bare minimum for a professional machine. Apple clears the bar here, but doesn't exceed it.

Maybe next year's machines? As a first product, I think it's good enough. And the performance gains elsewhere--if what Apple says is true--are actually pretty radically impressive.
For an 18-hour battery life computer (Macbook Air) that now doesn't even have a fan, it's for a complete different market segment from where nvidia cards dwell.
There is no 15" model anymore and the 16" model has not been announced with an M1 yet.
This presumably also affects polls on things that measure support for individual issues related to trust in society - for example Gun control.
> The military is a political entity

Veteran here, served during the contentious 2000 election. The US military very strongly prides itself on being an apolitical entity.

There's an important distinction between the electorate having differing opinions about the role and size of the military and the scope of its missions, and the military itself being a political entity.
They haven't announced a 15/16inch Apple Silicon Mac yet.
Here is the 1.7ghz https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/specs/macbook...
I bought a Mac mini 2 weeks ago and I was sweating when they announced the new Mac mini, not anymore now that its only max 16GB. Apple has effectively killed expandable storage and memory in all of their line up. No doubt in the future they will offer larger memory options when they release the 16" Macbook pro. Need 32GB a year later down the road for your mini? Just buy a new one!
> For whatever reason, their pay is total crap

The reason is pretty simple. Companies in SF create massive amount of value to the world and the developers capture some portion of the reward. Companies in Europe don't generate anywhere near the same value to the world as compared to SF. So the pay is low.
I've been a software developer for 15+ years now. It's been the same, every place I've ever interviewed. People place a lower priority on things they can't easily quantify.
If there isn’t yet, I’d be shocked if there won’t be one soon.
Wars aren't fought by militaries who want to demonstrate the latest military toys (one hopes, at least), but to achieve policy objectives. So of course the politicians decide what the military is allowed to do. Unless we're talking about a military dictatorship, though in that case it's maybe more accurate to say that the military high command has taken over the policy functions of the state rather than the military existing in some magic policy-free environment.

Or to quote von Clausewitz: "War is not an independent phenomenon, but the continuation of politics by different means."
> But by-and-large, past-me is an idiot and I have no reason to believe future-me won't feel that way about me, too.

I suspect you're probably doing yourself a disservice but I can certainly think of numerous instances of my own idiocy. I should particularly have learned by now not to browse and contribute to internet forums whilst drunk, for example, because this tends to magnify my idiocy[0].

[0] To be clear, I'm not drunk now.
The M1 is basically what would Apple would call A14X / A14Z if it was on iPad Pro.

So they decided to reuse the A14X / M1 across all three products. And the only differentiation are their TDP cooling. The MacBook Air is 10W TDP, and both Mac Mini and MacBook Pro are likely ~35W range.

The did mention MacBook Air's SSD performances is now twice as fast, so this isn't exactly an iPad Pro with Keyboard. That is great except I suddenly remember the 2019 MacBook Air actually had a slower SSD than the 2018 MacBook Air. Where the 2018 do Read at 2GB/s, 2019 could only do 1.3GB/s. So even at 2x / 2.6GB/s it is still only slightly better than 2018. And considering modern day NVME SSD, this is barely good enough.

Pricing kept at $999, and same old ridiculous upgrade pricing of RAM and Storage. Although they did lower the Education Pricing to $899, a little bit better than previous ~$829. But for MacBook Pro, You are essentially paying $300 more for a Fan and Touch Bar. And Pro still limited to 16GB Memory ( because it is now using the LPDDR RAM as used on iPad ).

I guess may be this is exciting for many, but extremely underwhelming to me.

A Quote from Steve Jobs:

“When you have a monopoly market share, the people who can make the company more successful are sales and marketing people, and they end up running the companies, the product people get driven out of the decision making forums.
Companies forget what it takes to make great products. The product sensibility, the product genius that brought them to this monopolistic position is rotted out... The people running these companies have no conception of a good product versus a bad product. They've got no conception of the craftsmanship that's required to take a good idea and turn it into a good product. They really have no feeling in their heart about wanting to really help the customers”

And my small rant and wishes, Dear Tim Cook / Apple, Please Stop Saying you LOVE something. There is no need for you to tell me that, because if you did love something; We will know. Steve never said anything along those lines, but we all know he cares way more than any of us could even imagine.
There is in development, but it recently stopped working due to increased codesigning requirements :(
Anyone else wonder if these new apps will allow installing software from outside the App store - I was worried when they were talking about Secure Enclave.
If my dev environment and build pipline is all ARM, I might as well get a ARM based server in production if they are available at a reasonable price.
They can probably out perform them, but only for a few seconds/minutes. That's why they put a fan in the pro.
I'm guessing that since the RAM is now on the SOC instead of on separate chips creating models with more RAM becomes more difficult not only from a space constraint on the die but a cost to manufacture more variants?
so, i see 4 different runtime installs (base/aspnet/aspnet-hosting/desktop) here https://github.com/dotnet/core/blob/master/release-notes/5.0... .

where can i find instructions for doing a side by side install? thanks
Apple dishes details on its new M1 chip
No it doesn’t. Try it on .Net 5.0.
Not likely, lack of arm build drivers and all. Though with the Mac Pro I'm curious how they'll handle hardware upgrades. I hope they don't revert back to trashcan mac like video situations.
RX 560 has about 100 GB/s memory bandwidth, how does that department stack up?
While compute performance and power efficiency seems to be really good, the M1 chip is apparently limited to 16GB RAM, 2TB storage and 2 Thunderbolt/USB4 controllers.

In other words, M1 is for the majority of consumers.

- power efficiency
- 16GB RAM
- 2TB storage
- 2 Thunderbolt/USB4

That looks like a really good feature set for ordinary consumers. My guess is that there's going to be 2 "Pro" variants for a high powered laptop and a professional workstation.
There isn't a 16" MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon yet.
I have a Brother MFC printer on my network and my Ubuntu has it popping up automatically after install. No drivers were needed. Installing on Windows takes more work.
Which makes it worse, Intel Macs look appealing than these.
Not all RAM is created equally. Better memory management means less RAM can be better than more RAM. Pair that with superfast flash storage for SWAP and you might not even be able to tell the difference between 16 and 32.

Besides, this release cycle is 100% optimized for an impressive speed boost, tempered by a need for a more impressive battery life.

The proof will be in the pudding.Time will tell.
Bragging about salaries is always annoying; however, it was one of those braggy comments that led me to reconsider my own job so that I ended up working for a FANG company. I had previously just used Glassdoor to check salaries and did not realize it was not giving an accurate picture of the total, more recent compensation offered at these companies. When I realized how much lower my income was compared to what was possible, it motivated me to start practicing and interviewing. I would have never known if it weren't for those posts.
But they needed to, MacBooks are simply no option if you want to train models. I dont expect crazy performance but would be great if MacBooks would be an option again for prototyping / model development at least
Show HN: A collection of sysadmin utilities, in a single binary
Not if servers are also runing ARM
My guess is the pros are going to be the tock to the consumer tick in the Apple silicon upgrade cycle. It takes months before pros are comfortable upgrading MacOS to begin with, and it will probably be a year or two before they're comfortable that pro software vendors have flushed out their bugs on the new architecture.

Basically I'm guessing that no one who wants more than 16GB on their professional machine was going to upgrade on this cycle anyway. We'll see
I suspect/hope they are for the 16” MacBook Pro, which is still Intel-based.
Oh, so if I run Windows/Linux on the Intel based Mac I can run these Universal apps? Sounds very un-Apple-like if true.

If not true, then my original comment seems to still stand.
No 32GB RAM on the 13”
Same! Mid-2012 rMBP. Turns out I could upgrade the AirPort card with a used one from ebay for $20, as well as the SSD (although that was maxed out at 1TB with mSATA). Eight years later, it's still a good computer.
But Mac OS X isn't iOS. The relative memory usage should be the same between an intel Mac and an ARM Mac. Which means for power users this is extremely disappointing.
And no way to buy a previous Mini with 10Gbe/64GB now either?... (from Apple)
It's not clear if they use the exact same M1 chip in Airs, but I'm pretty sure they run under a very low TDP. iPad A14 runs on 6W TDP.
If you're trying to describe pain to a healthcare professional it's useful to either compare it to some other pain that you've had (childbirth, ear infection, dental abscess), or describe it's effects: "it hurts when I think about it", "it hurts when I move", "it distracts me from my day to day activities" "it's always there, it intrudes into my thoughts and I can't distract myself from it, it hurts even if I'm not moving", "it wakes me up at night, it's always painful, I'm struggling to have this conversation, it makes me think about ending my life".

Talk about the things you used to do that you are not able to do now because of the pain.

For short term pain number 8 is supposed to be able to read or converse but only with effort; dizzy and / or nauseous; limited physical activity; difficulty in functioning; and strong painkillers are not so effective.

Number 9 is unable to speak; crying out or moaning uncontrollably.

Number 7 is interference with sleep, difficulty concentrating.
jwz also had his youtube downloader script out there - but that was apparently not the start of youtube dl
Yep, I had a 13" 16GB MBP in 2013. These don't seem very enticing.
I was connecting from a Linux laptop, and GNU screen was the terminal I used.

This was from 5 years ago. I believe I found a discussion online somewhere that touched upon the issue. Today, the closest thing I can find is this bug on pfSense: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9569
Seriously, it should be a crime to sell machines with 256GB SSD in 2020. All these starting prices look low, but those low end configurations will be a drag because of the RAM and storage decisions.