skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Caste is a thing plenty of Indians are willing to come out and condemn too. My line is pretty simple. Is it a tradition that involves harm being done to an individual without their consent? Then I'm not honoring it. Is it a tradition involving personal behavior and decisions or interactions between people with all parties consenting? Then it's none of my business. Discrimination falls very clearly on the first side of that line. Something like caste is "mild" enough that it's only really worth the energy to fight in the US when it crops up, but things that are more severe (like outright genocide) are things that I would argue we go beyond "not honoring" into the realm of "time to actively intervene." The Rohingya genocide is being committed by a society "very different from the one in which I was raised." I feel no desire to exercise tolerance towards the practitioners. I guess that makes me a bit more of a hawk than the average American right now.
If you don't qualify what you mean by "AVs will kill people" it's not useful. People can, and do, accidentally and intentionally, step in front of vehicles. They also intentionally crash vehicles. They won't stop because of AVs.

Even the fact of suicide by vehicle is complex: AVs can prevent some suicide by driver but possibly raise the risk of pedestrians committing suicide by vehicle. One reason suicide by vehicle happens is because it can conceal the intent to commit suicide. This is compounded by suicide being a taboo subject. This alone will complicate and possibly delay adoption of AVs.

Millions of innocent people are injured every year and about a million die every year in road accidents. Cutting that number significantly would have roughly the same impact on global well-being as curing a dread disease.

There are potentially hundreds of millions of new customers for vehicles as developing nations grow their middle class. If humans drive those vehicles, hundreds of thousands more will die every year.
I really want a Tesla but I would say my biggest misgiving is the perceived lack of “ownership”.

I can’t really take it in for third party repairs. They seem to refer to me as part of their “fleet”. What data are they collecting? I can’t use it on Uber?
Super interested in how the mice who experienced daily 24 hr food deprivation for 3 months did in the study.
In which way would it be worse?
> Just ignorance of a different rythm.

I don't think this is it. You can shift your sleep schedule by several hours and have it still be "natural" if you choose to. I'm not talking about massive 12-hour changes or anything, but in college I would routinely sleep from about 2am-10am if left to my own devices. That's what felt best for me at the time, and it continued for a year or two after. The problem was that I was always tired because I would have to wake up around 7 for work, then I would get a "second wind" around 9pm and not be able to sleep until 1 or 2.

After a few week of forcing myself to go to bed earlier, even if it meant staring at the ceiling, it went away and getting up early was not an issue anymore. It also got easier as I got older, and there is some evidence that some people's circadian rhythms will shift earlier as they age but over the course of decades, not months or even a few years.

If you're physically unable to shift your sleep schedule even a couple hours, you have a sleep disorder and should see a physician. 8 or 9am is not all that early.
What is going on? Why is this on HN? Should I start posting memes and rage comic?
Beer has a incredible variety of tastes. Don't compare alcohol free beers with the alcoholic beers of the same brand, just view it as a separate family of beers. Try some and pick your favorite.
And in the videos shown the vehicles are not going fast enough to kill any occupants either.
Target date funds aren't complicated at all.
That would be a response, wouldn't it? If you give an AI "a way out", which is essentially the same, it will take a way out when it thinks it the smartest thing to do.

The trick is to lower the punishment for taking the way out. It's not free, but saying a car is a dog gets you -1, where as seeing a car and saying I don't know, only gets you a -.1 punishment (or even a .1 reward, vs a 1 reward for a correct answer).
> It's a fun fact not generally known that Ireland has its own Dalits: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/fire-destroys-... .

Yeah, no. You can't really claim that the treatment of the Dalits in India and the Irish travellers Ireland is somehow equivalent, that's simply a lie. The racism of the Caste system in India and its violence has absolutely no equivalent in the West today. Even Roma in Europe are treated better all things considered and it a low standard.
Also, reportedly Soviet ballistic missiles were/are less accurate than US ones, so they compensated by having a bigger bang, in turn needing a bigger missile to launch it.

Another solution would be to do what the North Korean missile subs, putting the missile tubes in the (lengthened) sail.
>Joshi.

With that surname you will not experience it either in your lifetime, mate.
Thanks for sharing your perspective. It seems like an awful thing to endure.

I do, however, want to be sensitive to the fact that it may have some secondary effects that I'm not aware of, having never experienced firsthand.
> If you are under the panopticon, you are not you any longer. You respond to please others, not yourself. You are in fact a slave.

Under this line of reasoning, any level of societal participation is tantamount to slavery. I understand the what you're angling at and I agree to some extent; however, can you provide a viable alternative?

> Anything that enforces the hierarchical system, making it ever more restrictive, has blood on their hands in my view.

Society in and of itself is a hierarchy. Anything that contributes to society is therefore something that enforces the 'hierarchical system.'

You don't have to participate in society if you wish otherwise. The world could always use more mountaintop hermits.
I am not talking about all Turks/muslims. But about those that participate in fascist marches, share hate propaganda. No place if you don't respect freedom of speach and share rasism. Also stop money from Saudis and Iran to build mosques. Return hateful clergy. I would also like to shut down catholic shurch but that is another debate :D
Coffee has way more active ingredients than just caffeine, so removing just that does not really negate majority of the effects. This would be similar to removing nicotine from cigarettes.

Better just go to tea instead of decaf if you're sensitive. Another alternative that allows you to keep using coffee would be to go to your grandparents' coffee cups. They're 2-10 times smaller than the current ones!
How’s the Django job market these days?
Charting a Path to Software Resiliency
I believe that having process and practices in place for Resilience Engineering will be common in all companies within the next few years. Understanding that you can (and should) test in production will get more teams to try it out, look for tools and benefit from shorter MTTR and more robust systems. Share it with your team and discuss if you could apply some of it in your organization.
Cool! I've always found the weak point of Node is the libraries, they are often poorly supported and don't work well together. What's the ORM that comes with Laravel like, any good?
I actually disagree, I have worked in almost all parts of India. South India has a very strong "Brahmin" influence to an extent that families disown children if they marry in other caste.

They also have a very strong language bias with strong racism against non Tamil speakers. (Although People from Kerala and Andra Pradesh are much better than Tamil Nadu)
I'm pretty sure that "24 hr of food deprivation on a daily basis" would leave you dead!
If you look at a lot of audio amplifier ICs, they simply drive a 4-ohm speaker at a higher current and power than they do an 8-ohm speaker. The rest of the circuit needs to be designed around the anticipated power draw.

Matching impedance is necessary for connecting high-impedance output stages like tubes to low-impedance circuits like speakers. But transistor amps are generally already operating with low impedance outputs.
>"You pay for software updates/upgrades on your PC, right"

only if I want to. In many cases I keep using old version.

>"Everything is going towards subscription models."

That is a wet dream that will not materialize for many vendors or will fail after a while.
Sure.

But I wouldn't accept my motherboard supplier locking hardware features behind software updates either. Like if my can do pci express 16x. I wouldn't think it is right that it only does 8x unless I pay for a software unlock
I’m against all forms of discrimination but it’s inhuman to force someone to change their name. That’s like saying certain unsavory last names need to be changed in the U.S. My last name is Cohen, some people in WWII-era Germany wanted to erase my name.
I've been around silicon valley for decades. Caste discrimination hasn't 'arrived', it's been there for as long as I can remember.
Ask any Indian and they will tell you all about it. What they may not tell you is how hiring often is within certain ethnic demographics, also sometimes the case with eastern and central europeans.
You mean the Weather Underground [1], Symbionese Liberation Army, and so forth? I'm not sure how commonly "domestic terrorism" was used as a term although it was used. That was a long time ago of course but the violence associated with the Vietnam War etc. is quite well documented.

[1] https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/weather-underground...
Haussmann's Renovation of Paris
ORT (Only Read Title) I thought this would be about SV's own caste system, but it's actually about Indians' caste system.
Bro hardware with improper software can break or kill. They pushed the hardware in advance because .. it's 'hard'ware. Then they tried optimized motor control.

If they gave you beta motor logic they'd have to fix whatever would burn or fail.
I have never paid for updates of the drivers in my PC. The software to control the motors of a Tesla is akin to that, and should therefore not be compared to software sold purely.
These are hillarious when they do implement them in the US. People stop anyway to yield. If anything it makes it a little more dicey to bike through because people also don’t signal when they are exiting.
While people can be fairly dumb they may be able to cope with a warning that a cough listening device is not very accurate?
It looks like a permanent magnet:
https://spectrum.ieee.org/image/MzcxMTU3OA.jpeg
Prior related discussion with a lot of interesting comments (and a top comment with links to even more previous discussion of the issue):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24552047
Career Narratives
> This was the guy in the red leather fetish suit from Zardoz right?

If by "leather fetish suit" you mean "diaper", sure.
> But people should be allowed to use any surnames.

Is this not currently the case?
A system of oppression that benefits some at the cost of others isn’t tradition. If it somehow seems that the system is accepted by those oppressed it is simply because of not being able to make meaningful change for generations.
I have worked a bit with ALSA and dabbled in VST development and I understand some of these issues. I agree with you, but these are the inherently hard problems that we can't remove; I still believe accessibility can be much improved.

By the way, the article you linked is really good, thanks for that. Anyone else reading this discussion will surely be interested in that article too.
Going to expose my ignorance but I read a similar story of people giving back massages to feel for some kind of necklace or undergarment that indicates caste position.

I forget know the details I’m sure someone can correct me.
This post by Will Larson reminded me of Julia Evans's thread on "What are some possible career goals a software developer could have?" -- Can we help our teammates pick journeys and try them out? Will writes it nicely: "Chasing the next promotion is at best a marker on a mass-produced treasure map, with every shovel and metal detector recovering the same patch. Don't go there. Go somewhere that's disproportionately valuable to you because of who you are and what you want."
You are denying caste discrimination and then washing it off as "post truth" world. That's atrocious actually. Caste discrimination is not some kind of narrative building either, these are lived experiences spanning centuries.
I thought this interview about the book was pretty good: https://cafe.com/stay-tuned/americas-caste-system-with-isabe...

I think she's right that caste is a better way to view the issue in the US.
If you find this interesting you'll probably also find base 6 interesting. If you've not seen them these videos are both humorous and informative.

https://www.seximal.net/
I am not saying South India is free of caste system. I am just saying it's better to live in a society where one can't tell your caste from your name. Especially if you are from one of the marginalized castes.
Speaking about dragging prejudices half way across the world, the British administration seem to be responsible in large part for this legacy. It's not just "an Indian thing".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India#During_B...

(edit: why not read the Wikipedia article, it's a matter of fact)
You’ll Need at Least Two of These Four Qualifications to Get Hired by a Venture
The dialog in France is important one for a democracy to have, and deals with real questions.

I'm an upper caste male from India (now in Silicon Valley), and there is absolutely no redeeming quality to caste. It's abhorrent and barbarous. Thankfully, it's nowhere near as widespread as it used to be in India, and I can see it becoming a non-issue in the coming decades.
In cases like this where marketplace efficiency is aligned with moral good, I think we should embrace using it as a tool/weapon to accomplish the moral good. You've got to use the tools you got, and I don't see using capitalistic means to argue for ending discrimination as automatically meaning you personally value markets more than morals. Markets are a tool. When I use a power drill to drill a hole - it's not really about the drill - it's about wanting the hole. Same idea.
Exactly. You are supposed to chose a name for your namespace that hopefully nobody else ever used and nobody else will ever use.

If you write a class "Http" you might start your file Http.php with

namespace Buttons840;

class Http {
...

So a file that includes your Http.php can instantiate the class via

$myHttp = new Buttons804\Http();
Weak positive (high Ct value) PCR mass testing of asymptomatic individuals [pdf]
> For example, at my company some people's opinions are valued more than others

At your company people with lighter skins are more valued than others? Because that's what we're talking here in regard to Indian castes. Please name your company.
> But somehow because we are white we are supposed to have the same values as Americans because Americans have racialized culture.

In a very literal way: https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonian-race-guidelines-rationa...
I have a big problem with the word 'lie' here. Make an argument but don't just say 'no, it's a lie'
JavaScript was a bad language though, if not just from it’s messy origins. There’s been a ton of work put into the language and lots of thought put into the ’good parts’ to use and expand upon.

I’d be interested in learning more about php’s evolution, and possibly even a follow-up to that article.
We don't necessarily have to change the name of existing people all at once. The rule can be applied to mostly new borns and figure out the rest from there.
A mouse starves to death in 48 hours. I have gone 12 days without food (water fast) and was not even close to starvation. Probably could have gone another few weeks before I expired.

I would say 16 hours for a mouse is probably more like 7 plus days without food for a Human.
We need to recognize that caste is class and we have the same issue in the US. People from the Ozarks don't marry into families in Manhattan.
Or... We could change the law to make it clear that when you buy some hardware you do own it, and to punish businesses that attempt to abuse their customers with owner-hostile retrospective software changes (to hardware products or otherwise). Consumer rights laws exist, and they can be strengthened if necessary to ensure fairness in the market.
yes, weird. I can only guess it's in relation to the news of Sean Connery's death[0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24950897
You know, one thing that might help us outsiders is, what actually is the caste system?

Is it based on race (skin color), lineage (surnames) or some geographical criteria (article mentioned "do you swim" like maybe being near the ocean means you're better off or something)?!

Seriously, what are the hierarchical structures and how deep does it go.
The FDA probably won't approve anything for ages but you could put the app out anyway?
I learned most of it through pair programming. You teach each other.

With solo programming, everyone has to figure everything by themselves. A deeply inefficient system.
Perhaps because Sean Connery passed away today. He was 90.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54761824
Talk more, type less: Talking on the phone is good for you
If we want to speed up the end of fossil fuels, while not increasing poverty, and not artificially distorting markets and technological developments by politically meddling with costs, we have to do these 3 things:

1. Introduce a substantial carbon tax on extraction and import of any fossil energy source. This should include embodied energy, like aluminum.

2. Pay back part of the tax gains to the poorer population in form of a universal basic income (it could be some other scheme but I think this is the best one).

3. Subsidize any form of non-fossil energy generation, INCLUDING STORAGE, from the carbon tax. This subsidy MUST be non-discriminatory, it must not depend on promised future efficiencies in a technology but what it actually delivers, today. And it must give incentive to make any technology, and also energy distribution, consumption and storage, more efficient. It could be, for example, night time storage heaters (which were heavily promoted in the 1950s / 1960s to make nuclear more economical).

What we should NOT do is to subsidize some technology which has been making fancy promises since five decades, without really delivering them. Among other things, this would be market distortion, and precisely because it would reduce our effectiveness in fighting climate change, it would be very harmful. At worst, it would result in that we do effectively nothing, while pretending we do.
Cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7FLinRd...
Somewhat tangential but in Korea people used to buy in to higher prestige surnames which has resulted in the great majority of people sharing a couple handful of surnames.
If you are living in the US the answer is simple: NO.

US and state law (for the most part) prohibits this type of discrimination. That reflects the view of most--but not all--Americans that such discrimination is not tolerable.
That's a common trope in sci-fi -- I think Star Trek TNG and Battlestar Gallactica had the female officers addressed as "sir".
Wow! I can understand that people downvote this post. But flagging it? It really shows who you are. Anything that challenges your narrative must be gone. Now I get it.
Yeah, switching to dark mode automatically on `prefers-color-scheme: dark` also matters.
That doesn’t make it any better. Your last name is a part of your identity and heritage. You are advocating for cultural genocide and trust me I know what comes after that.
> drivers who opt in at their own risk

If it was actually just at their own risk, it would be substantially less bad. They opt in at their own risk, and at the risk of those around them.
That program makes the repair shop order each part individually based on serial numbers.
You do know that institutions such as schools can change the time they start, right?
Wasn't he known for saying that "women need to be hit now and then" or something? Real classy.
I am really anti rasism. People in video are clearly racists. I don't care if they are europeans, turks, christians, muslims, arabs, indians, americans. I just think if you are in EU and you do not respect the laws, you should be deported if possible, depending on your legal status. Why is it bad to speak against mob that tries to find and kill Armenians?
One of the things about Tamil Nadu at least is that a lot of people don't have surnames in the traditional sense.

My "surname" is actually my dad's given name, and my dad's "surname" is his dad's given name. So it changes every generation, unlike most of the rest of the world, where a single surname lasts through generations.

The point about caste differentiability by surname is still valid, though in a different sense, because the given names also have caste bias.

IMO the easiest way to break this cycle would be a widespread campaign to de-stigmatize inter-marriage between castes; that would solve the problem of correlation between name and caste within a generation or two.
How can you justify discrimination based on somebody's origin in any modern society? What kind of negative "secondary effects" that anti-discrimination would bring to a society? It's not like this is a small country or the first time we're talking about this issue.
>Other tests include patting an Indian man on the back to see whether he is wearing a “sacred thread” worn by some Brahmins, the highest-ranked caste. (This gesture is sometimes referred to as the “Tam-Bram pat,” in reference to Tamil-speaking Brahmins.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/10/27/indian-...
I don't have a problem with the word I used. These situations are not equivalent at all, why bring that here when it's has absolutely nothing to do with topic at hand? in a dubious attempt at whataboutism? I stand by what I said.
Why would it not just drive up Tesla owners’ insurance rates?

I guess it might affect everyone if it increases liability costs in cases where the Tesla driver is not at fault, but I imagine that’s an extremely minor portion of expenses considering the tiny proportion of Tesla cars.
> What's the ORM that comes with Laravel like, any good?

Yes, it's pretty decent. Very flexible and always allows you to drop down to lower levels when you need to. knex.js is a port of Laravel's query builder from PHP to JS. But Laravel also has an active record style ORM system on top of the query builder.
People from higher caste wear a thread (goes from neck to waist , sort of like how you would wear a Quiver)
Comma.ai recently switched their entire codebase from tensor flow to pytorch, how do you explain that?
Bring shnacks.
We didn't have that many trinkets. However the said "awful" soviet appliances used to work way past the collapse of the Union.
Sound like an interesting idea, but probably quite limited in practice. They write that you can produce 20m segments of filament on a 30x30cm bed. That is already a somewhat large printbed, and 20m is not that much filament. So it seems like the use case would be small objects only.

3D printers can be very finicky, and I'd worry that the filament diameter and properties would be variable enough to cause issues here.

My impression is that multi-color printing is far more limited by the amount of effort one is willing to spend on tuning everything until it works than just money.